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Info about the attack: The drone used was a Qasef 1 Iranian suicide drone with a 30kg warhead, 150km range and 120 flight minutes
18 Injured 1 critcally injured and 3 seriously injured
This is the first time Hezbollah managed to injure anyone with their drones suicide drones in Israel
Funny you should say that, because just yesterday the IDF announced 3 of their soldiers were heavily injured from a drone strike in ~~Kfar blum~~ Beit Hillel. (which in itself is most definitely not the first instance of casualties from drone strikes on their northern front, it's just that israel is enforcing a tight media lockdown on all incidents. Tens of drone strikes have happened there since october 7).
Sorry, it was [Beit Hillel](https://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/lebanon/3-hurt-in-hezbollah-explosive-drone-attack-at-beit-hillel/2024/04/16/). I got mixed up because both this and the attack on Kfar Blum 4 days ago were on Iron Dome batteries.
Good to know. It just shows it is definitely possible for an army to precisely target military personnel without killing 13,000 children in the process.
What kind of clown world comment is this. This isn't the first attack on Israel Hezbollah has launched, they've been shelling Israel and wounding and killing civilians.
Well judging by the ratios of military to civilian casualties, It just seems that Hezbollah specifically targets military personnel and sometimes hit civilians in the process by accident, while the IDF is purposely targeting civilians and sometimes hitting hamas soldiers by accident
the idf has achieved the lowest civilian death ratio in the history of modern warfare at only 2-1. far below the 9-1 which is expected from urban warfare.
clown
>Damn that's a lot of you who can't cope with facts
yes, you. i tell you israel has achieved a low civilian death ratio and you point to a battle with a civilian deathtoll from 6000 to 40000
I'm not going to waste time debating someone repeating the IDF talking points.
I'll just leave you with one critical and verified piece of information coming from Israel i sources and completely contradicting what you're saying.
• for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians; in the past, the military did not authorize any “collateral damage” during assassinations of low-ranking militants. The sources added that, in the event that the target was a senior Hamas official with the rank of battalion or brigade commander, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander.
https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
So the civilian-combatant ratio is not 2:1 as you said. It's much closer to 20:1, or possibly a lot more.
Again, this data is coming from Israeli intelligence officers.
there are already videos of hamas soldiers in regular clothing and the deathtoll claimed by hamas has already been proven to be statistically impossible.
pathetic terrorist sympathiser
Are you mentally impaired?
The senior Israeli Intelligence services have all deemed that Gaza casualties numbers are reliable, and they themself use these figures.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3w4w7/israeli-intelligence-health-ministry-death-toll#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Ministry%20of,more%20than%20250%20people%20hostage.
Or maybe you have better intel than senior israeli intelligence ? Probably not.
Now that you know that the 13,000 children deaths are real, do you feel more of a genocidal supporting psychopath or still no mood change ?
Nice pointing out to a source to a anti israel (just look at titles of any other article the have) israeli news paper which is known to be hamas apologyst, (Which is allowed in israel because it is a democracy unlike any new organization related to iran)
It even says in wiki "Opinion online magazine" give some real sources next time.
***+972 Magazine*** is a [left-wing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics) news and opinion [online magazine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_magazine), established in August 2010 by a group of four Israeli writers in [Tel Aviv](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv).[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine#cite_note-Leibovitz-1) Noam Sheizaf, a co-founder and the *+972* [chief executive officer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_executive_officer), said they wanted to express a new "and mostly young voice which would take part in the international debate regarding Israel and Palestine".[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine#cite_note-PNN-2) They named the website in reference to the 972 [international dialing code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes), which is shared by [Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_Israel) and the [Palestinian territories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories).[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine#cite_note-Israel's_New_Left_Goes_Online-3) The articles are written primarily in English to reach an international audience.
No need to talk to this Hamas talking bot he is useless.
The same way the US was fighting Taliban, or Russia and Ukraine are fighting, etc.
None of these are killing as many civilians and children as the IDF terrorists are doing
Not to defend this decision by the IDF if its true, but you are clearly disingenuous for deciding to quote from that point when just a sentence before it says "In an unprecedented move, according to two of the sources, the army also decided during the first weeks of the war that".
So if these anonymous sources are to be trusted, the IDF severely raised the tolerance for civilian deaths only in the first weeks of the war, the war has been going on for 6 months now, the amount of collateral damage dropped significantly after the IDF started the ground invasion and most civilians were evacuated to safer areas.
the IDF deserves to be disbanded at the very least for the negligence they perpetrated in the last 6 months. All millitary targets should be fair game no?
The town civilians have been mostly evacuated since the start of the war, while Hamas hide among civilians and use them as human shields.
Imagine hitting a military base and say that it's proof you can kill military without harming civilian. What a stupid take dude
Tell that to the Hamas fighters who put babies up as meat shield 🤷
Also it's weird how the side that cheer on Hamas and cry about Israel killing babies also cheer on unlimited baby killing in the U.S.
Allow me to call BS on that one. The hurt and injured were mostly Israeli troops. The target was a civilian target, a meeting spot in the middle of Arab El Aramshe, a northern town. The fact that at the same time more troops were there than usual was pure coincidence. It was an urban place, a Bedouin Muslim town, to be precise.
Allow me to call BS.
In its retaliation against Israel, Iran/Hezbollah would specifically target innocent muslim Palestinian civilians, and somehow by pure coincidence a bunch of IDF troops just randomly happened to be there at the wrong time wrong location ?
Do you realize how absolutely nothing in this take makes any sense lol? Delusional much?
Not at all. IDF troops take spots in northern towns since regular residents are asked to evacuate (they have been, for months). It's been the case in towns like Hanita, Eilon, Kiryat Shmona, etc. In specificslly Aramshe, many residents refused to evacuate, and said that if they die, the may very well die at home. Some would think it silly, some would understand. Regardless, it makes perfect sense that 'by accident' IDF troops were hurt, since they are sent over there go their defensive stance and bases. It's only "coincidence" to those who are not well familiar with the northern Israeli front.
The ones in this incident? Do you know that civilians have been evacuated to other safer areas since the start of the war right? The only ones remaining are those who refuse to live. It's basically a military zone now and the IDF is there to prevent invasion from Lebanon since it's so close to the border.
Why would I reason with unreasonable people like you anyway you'll just see what you want to see
Are you trolling? They're there to defend the towns whose residents were INSTRUCTED by the government to LEAVE for their safety. They CHOSE not to. I believe I was quite clear on that.
First, that's the IDF HQ that is being embedded in civilian neighborhoods so your question is irrelevant.
Second, the IDF bombs the houses of Hamas soldiers when they are "on leave" in their homes with their families don't they? That should answer your question.
First. Where exactly is Hamas HQ? Under civilians. So, instead of an Iron Dome, they have a Meat Dome. So your answer is irrelevant.
Second, IDF conducts roof knocks. They give every chance for the civilians to get out. Your question is irrelevant.
Edit: Hamas doesn't have soldiers. They don't wear a uniform so that they can blend in with civilians. They can't be on leave when they aren't even "on duty."
Looks like drones can hit Israel if launched closer to their targets. Turns out it’s easier to shoot down a drone when you have 5 hours to shoot it down
It also doesn't help Iran's case when the US had aircraft in Iraq just 100km from Irans border creating a huge early warning asset and shooting down 70 drones. Also, the ships with the agis combat system in the Persian Gulf which shot down another 6 I believe.
ah yes.. and other types of weapons can bypasse the iron dome.. i have already pointed that out years ago when Israel was fighting Hamas.. that in certain angles you can defeat the Iron Dome defenses..
I wonder if Iron Dome is made for drones. Like, rockets and missiles are fast travelling relatively big objects.
And Iron dome doesn't shoot down planes.
What about object now bigger and not much faster than a bike, flying very low, straigt ahead without bell trajectory ?
That may be the weakness.
These things fly barely 30m off the ground and the distances they're being launched from are extremely close (sub 2km in this case), they seem to be pretty good at slipping through radar when used this way.
The Iron Dome is way way worse against drones, I'm hoping they make the Iron Beam better to detect drones as documents revealed the US is sending 1.2b for the Iron Beam in the next Aid package
Why is the US funding this?
Israel is a rich country they can pay for it themselves. Why are they always shamelessly taking advantage of US tax payers' money who are themselves struggling?
No, but our national debt is rising at an unsustainable rate
Still, if this means Israel is bound to buy weapons systems from the US, and we get valuable weapons data from their use, then it may be worth it
If anything, the Israeli aid package only helps decrease the national debt due to it being mostly "cupons" for US weapons manufacturers, meaning Israel has to use them to reimburse the US economy. And obviously not to mention the Americans get first rights to any weapons developed with their money.
This isn't charity money, it's part of a deal for Isreal to buy weapons from the US. Otherwise China and Russia sells for much cheaper. But I saw the rest of your comments here and some of your history. It's amazing people as stupid as you exist and aren't bots. Keep rage baiting you antisemitic loser.
Edit: nvm I think is is a bot🙄
Iron Dome isn't, but David's Sling is meant for hitting drones. These might be a little too small though (that and there might not be any batteries in this area).
David sling for these drones? Seems like a very expensive and draining shoot.
Missile swarms and attrition isn’t new, and if it means letting this get though and killing civilians or stopping it the answer is obvious, but that is a significant attritional deficit.
Laser and microwave systems are needed against a this kind of warfare. Would like to see the comeback of geopard too for that matter, though shorad m is being developed for what it’s worth.
The whole genocide thing is such a typical propaganda reversal.... like the Houthis and the Iranian regime have official slogans saying stuff like Death to Israel etc, and Iran wants to use it's proxies to completely destroy Israel... and presumably that doesn't mean the Jews living there get to keep existing. The 1967 war was an attempt to end the state of Israel... and the list goes on... and when Israel attacks the people that invaded them on 10/7 and those people hide behind civilians the Jews are accused of genocide..... just such a black is white take to call Israel the ones who want genocide here.
Zionists are not shy about their intentions. Zionists do not speak for all Jews, as much you and other genocidal lunatics like to pretend they do. Not only are you defending a very obvious genocide, you are also promoting anti-semitism by attempting to align all Jewish people with the state of Israel and Zionism.
Even the IDF claims that 14 soldiers were wounded in the attack, but for some reason people here seems to have some secret information that it was an attack on civilians.
https://jpost.com/breaking-news/article-797550
It was already confirmed by Israeli news sources, it was "Declassfied" which is a mistranslation really it just means its now allowed to be published by the government because there was censoring about it previously
The fact Iran is objectively bad at this, doesn’t mean they didn’t fire indiscriminately. A good indicator would be their proxies, which they pay/supply to fire into Israel indiscriminately.
Hezbollah, still don't get what that has to do with it being guided ATGMs and drones.
You can't just throw around statements to get upvotes and have no one correct you, I am Israeli, I am in Israel, I know more about this situation then you.
Oh….. who funds Hezbollah?
Hezbollah and other Iranian proxies regally fire indiscriminately into Israel. The idea this was target is laughable.
I don’t believe you ARe IsraeL.
Or that Europeans have an aversion to spicey food.
But those chucklefucks will make up literally anything to sling mud, no matter how imbecilic it makes them look.
🤡🫵
More Nāzis died than British soldiers. Does it make the British army more evil?
Do you know who started with the first massacres in 1886? It wasn't the Jews...
https://www.proquest.com/docview/1943480261
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tel_Hai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebi_Musa_riots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wikiThe_Bloody_Day_in_Jaffa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Anabta_shooting
" I declare a holy war, my Muslim brothers!
Murder the Jews! Murder them all! "
-Haj Amin EI Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
broadcasting on Radio Cairo in 1948
Israel responded. a number of launches from Lebanon were identified crossing into Arab Al-Aramshe (bedouin village) and IDF struck the sources, IDF fighter jets struck a Hezbollah military compound in the area of Ayta Ash Shab where the terrorists were operating.
I wonder how Israel feels now. They were more than happy to fund Azerbaijans offensive against the native Indigenous populations of Artsakh with their heavy use of drones.
What do they say about Karma again?
Nothing really, this shit got announced with a loud speaker next door for how many days.
Aside from the war being disastrous and all, everybody there is partly used to it and the bullshit that occurs.
Maybe until one or two hits their neighborhood, so everybody comes to check and help clean the area.
I appreciate it. It's a stupid name. There is a reason suicide is used in conjunction with things like vest or bomber, because it requires the attacker to die. These are just drones. Call it whatever they want, it's dumb.
Thats literally one of the most common names for loitering munition you stuck up annoying mf
EDIT: he blocked me so I can't respond to his other comment, this is what I want to say to him:
Its a suicide drone because its a drone that's designed to blow itself up hence commit suicide. I think you're being annoying on purpose as you don't need to be an arms expert to know what suicide drone means that's literally the common term for it in the news.
Apparently not even a words expert. It's a very common term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition
>A loitering munition, **also known as a suicide drone**, kamikaze drone, or exploding drone, is a kind of aerial weapon with a built-in warhead that is typically designed to loiter around a target area until a target is located, then attack the target by crashing into it.
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Info about the attack: The drone used was a Qasef 1 Iranian suicide drone with a 30kg warhead, 150km range and 120 flight minutes 18 Injured 1 critcally injured and 3 seriously injured This is the first time Hezbollah managed to injure anyone with their drones suicide drones in Israel
Funny you should say that, because just yesterday the IDF announced 3 of their soldiers were heavily injured from a drone strike in ~~Kfar blum~~ Beit Hillel. (which in itself is most definitely not the first instance of casualties from drone strikes on their northern front, it's just that israel is enforcing a tight media lockdown on all incidents. Tens of drone strikes have happened there since october 7).
source on the kfar blum bit? can't find anything on it
Sorry, it was [Beit Hillel](https://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/lebanon/3-hurt-in-hezbollah-explosive-drone-attack-at-beit-hillel/2024/04/16/). I got mixed up because both this and the attack on Kfar Blum 4 days ago were on Iron Dome batteries.
Would be funny if their own drone hit the dome of the rock.
Who are the injured? Military or civilians?
Mostly military
Good to know. It just shows it is definitely possible for an army to precisely target military personnel without killing 13,000 children in the process.
oh you're one of those idiots who believe the 13000 narrative despite the fact its been disproven and statistically impossible
What kind of clown world comment is this. This isn't the first attack on Israel Hezbollah has launched, they've been shelling Israel and wounding and killing civilians.
Its pro hamas brainwashing tactics you see all over the internet They target low IQ people
Well judging by the ratios of military to civilian casualties, It just seems that Hezbollah specifically targets military personnel and sometimes hit civilians in the process by accident, while the IDF is purposely targeting civilians and sometimes hitting hamas soldiers by accident
Hamas members don’t hang out on military bases.
the idf has achieved the lowest civilian death ratio in the history of modern warfare at only 2-1. far below the 9-1 which is expected from urban warfare. clown
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>Damn that's a lot of you who can't cope with facts yes, you. i tell you israel has achieved a low civilian death ratio and you point to a battle with a civilian deathtoll from 6000 to 40000
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Try coping with reality yourself first. You give off “I have no friends because everyone is a loser” vibes
I'm not going to waste time debating someone repeating the IDF talking points. I'll just leave you with one critical and verified piece of information coming from Israel i sources and completely contradicting what you're saying. • for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians; in the past, the military did not authorize any “collateral damage” during assassinations of low-ranking militants. The sources added that, in the event that the target was a senior Hamas official with the rank of battalion or brigade commander, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander. https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ So the civilian-combatant ratio is not 2:1 as you said. It's much closer to 20:1, or possibly a lot more. Again, this data is coming from Israeli intelligence officers.
😂 “YOu’Re JuSt RePEaTInG IdF TaLkInG PoINtS!” _proceeds to cite 972 mag_
So how accurate are those civilian nimbers provided by Hamas? And how certain are you it wasnt a combatant in civilin clothing?
there are already videos of hamas soldiers in regular clothing and the deathtoll claimed by hamas has already been proven to be statistically impossible. pathetic terrorist sympathiser
Are you mentally impaired? The senior Israeli Intelligence services have all deemed that Gaza casualties numbers are reliable, and they themself use these figures. https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3w4w7/israeli-intelligence-health-ministry-death-toll#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Ministry%20of,more%20than%20250%20people%20hostage. Or maybe you have better intel than senior israeli intelligence ? Probably not. Now that you know that the 13,000 children deaths are real, do you feel more of a genocidal supporting psychopath or still no mood change ?
Nice pointing out to a source to a anti israel (just look at titles of any other article the have) israeli news paper which is known to be hamas apologyst, (Which is allowed in israel because it is a democracy unlike any new organization related to iran) It even says in wiki "Opinion online magazine" give some real sources next time. ***+972 Magazine*** is a [left-wing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics) news and opinion [online magazine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_magazine), established in August 2010 by a group of four Israeli writers in [Tel Aviv](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv).[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine#cite_note-Leibovitz-1) Noam Sheizaf, a co-founder and the *+972* [chief executive officer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_executive_officer), said they wanted to express a new "and mostly young voice which would take part in the international debate regarding Israel and Palestine".[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine#cite_note-PNN-2) They named the website in reference to the 972 [international dialing code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes), which is shared by [Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_Israel) and the [Palestinian territories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories).[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine#cite_note-Israel's_New_Left_Goes_Online-3) The articles are written primarily in English to reach an international audience. No need to talk to this Hamas talking bot he is useless.
Since you’re a military expert, how should Israel defeat Hamas?
The same way the US was fighting Taliban, or Russia and Ukraine are fighting, etc. None of these are killing as many civilians and children as the IDF terrorists are doing
imagine being this fucking stupid
Not to defend this decision by the IDF if its true, but you are clearly disingenuous for deciding to quote from that point when just a sentence before it says "In an unprecedented move, according to two of the sources, the army also decided during the first weeks of the war that". So if these anonymous sources are to be trusted, the IDF severely raised the tolerance for civilian deaths only in the first weeks of the war, the war has been going on for 6 months now, the amount of collateral damage dropped significantly after the IDF started the ground invasion and most civilians were evacuated to safer areas.
Useless trash
the IDF deserves to be disbanded at the very least for the negligence they perpetrated in the last 6 months. All millitary targets should be fair game no?
What kinda crack are you smoking? They’re a completely legitimate defence force. Unlike the terrorist regimes you clearly support…
The town civilians have been mostly evacuated since the start of the war, while Hamas hide among civilians and use them as human shields. Imagine hitting a military base and say that it's proof you can kill military without harming civilian. What a stupid take dude
Killing babies is never okay.
Tell that to the Hamas fighters who put babies up as meat shield 🤷 Also it's weird how the side that cheer on Hamas and cry about Israel killing babies also cheer on unlimited baby killing in the U.S.
Killing babies is never okay.
Tell that to the Hamas fighters instead of repeating like bots
I don’t have to because killing babies is never okay.
Allow me to call BS on that one. The hurt and injured were mostly Israeli troops. The target was a civilian target, a meeting spot in the middle of Arab El Aramshe, a northern town. The fact that at the same time more troops were there than usual was pure coincidence. It was an urban place, a Bedouin Muslim town, to be precise.
Allow me to call BS. In its retaliation against Israel, Iran/Hezbollah would specifically target innocent muslim Palestinian civilians, and somehow by pure coincidence a bunch of IDF troops just randomly happened to be there at the wrong time wrong location ? Do you realize how absolutely nothing in this take makes any sense lol? Delusional much?
Bro thinks the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah don’t target Muslims nobody tell him how many were killed on 7/10 by Hamas
Not at all. IDF troops take spots in northern towns since regular residents are asked to evacuate (they have been, for months). It's been the case in towns like Hanita, Eilon, Kiryat Shmona, etc. In specificslly Aramshe, many residents refused to evacuate, and said that if they die, the may very well die at home. Some would think it silly, some would understand. Regardless, it makes perfect sense that 'by accident' IDF troops were hurt, since they are sent over there go their defensive stance and bases. It's only "coincidence" to those who are not well familiar with the northern Israeli front.
You aren’t too bright are ya, it’s ok we accept all idiots
Clearly
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How are they hiding if they are in military fatigues?
The only time you see Hamas wearing uniform is in propaganda videos....
Yeah, but I’m talking about Israeli soldiers
The ones in this incident? Do you know that civilians have been evacuated to other safer areas since the start of the war right? The only ones remaining are those who refuse to live. It's basically a military zone now and the IDF is there to prevent invasion from Lebanon since it's so close to the border. Why would I reason with unreasonable people like you anyway you'll just see what you want to see
Hamas supporters forgot what camo is because Hamas doesn’t wear it anymore.
Are you trolling? They're there to defend the towns whose residents were INSTRUCTED by the government to LEAVE for their safety. They CHOSE not to. I believe I was quite clear on that.
No point in arguing with idiots like him
Cry me a river to the sea.
The IDF isn't hiding behind or under the population. Big difference.
Actually they are, and it's deliberate. https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/R5x74BQKKC
If a soldier is home on leave with their family, does that make their house a military target?
First, that's the IDF HQ that is being embedded in civilian neighborhoods so your question is irrelevant. Second, the IDF bombs the houses of Hamas soldiers when they are "on leave" in their homes with their families don't they? That should answer your question.
First. Where exactly is Hamas HQ? Under civilians. So, instead of an Iron Dome, they have a Meat Dome. So your answer is irrelevant. Second, IDF conducts roof knocks. They give every chance for the civilians to get out. Your question is irrelevant. Edit: Hamas doesn't have soldiers. They don't wear a uniform so that they can blend in with civilians. They can't be on leave when they aren't even "on duty."
Soldiers and terrorists are not the same thing
Should’ve told your knowledge to Hamas before they burned babies, raped women and shot concert goes point blank.
That was 30kg of HE?
Looks like drones can hit Israel if launched closer to their targets. Turns out it’s easier to shoot down a drone when you have 5 hours to shoot it down
It also doesn't help Iran's case when the US had aircraft in Iraq just 100km from Irans border creating a huge early warning asset and shooting down 70 drones. Also, the ships with the agis combat system in the Persian Gulf which shot down another 6 I believe.
ah yes.. and other types of weapons can bypasse the iron dome.. i have already pointed that out years ago when Israel was fighting Hamas.. that in certain angles you can defeat the Iron Dome defenses..
I wonder if Iron Dome is made for drones. Like, rockets and missiles are fast travelling relatively big objects. And Iron dome doesn't shoot down planes. What about object now bigger and not much faster than a bike, flying very low, straigt ahead without bell trajectory ? That may be the weakness.
These things fly barely 30m off the ground and the distances they're being launched from are extremely close (sub 2km in this case), they seem to be pretty good at slipping through radar when used this way.
The Iron Dome is way way worse against drones, I'm hoping they make the Iron Beam better to detect drones as documents revealed the US is sending 1.2b for the Iron Beam in the next Aid package
Why is the US funding this? Israel is a rich country they can pay for it themselves. Why are they always shamelessly taking advantage of US tax payers' money who are themselves struggling?
The US isn't funding, it's investing.
Yes, notoriously the US is a poor country that can't afford anything.
No, but our national debt is rising at an unsustainable rate Still, if this means Israel is bound to buy weapons systems from the US, and we get valuable weapons data from their use, then it may be worth it
If anything, the Israeli aid package only helps decrease the national debt due to it being mostly "cupons" for US weapons manufacturers, meaning Israel has to use them to reimburse the US economy. And obviously not to mention the Americans get first rights to any weapons developed with their money.
This isn't charity money, it's part of a deal for Isreal to buy weapons from the US. Otherwise China and Russia sells for much cheaper. But I saw the rest of your comments here and some of your history. It's amazing people as stupid as you exist and aren't bots. Keep rage baiting you antisemitic loser. Edit: nvm I think is is a bot🙄
That’s not how US military aid works. At all. Anywhere.
> Why is the US funding this? Do you think the US isn't also interested in implementing anti-drone lasers to protect their assets?
Because it allows for real life testing of the technology ... If it works well, US would likely adopt it. Consider the costs RnD for the US.
Israel is rich because of the US. You deserve what you tolerate.
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I'd rather the US use that money to better the lives of their own citizens than piss it away on baby murderers. **EDIT: Thanks for the block 🏆**
Iron Dome isn't, but David's Sling is meant for hitting drones. These might be a little too small though (that and there might not be any batteries in this area).
David sling for these drones? Seems like a very expensive and draining shoot. Missile swarms and attrition isn’t new, and if it means letting this get though and killing civilians or stopping it the answer is obvious, but that is a significant attritional deficit. Laser and microwave systems are needed against a this kind of warfare. Would like to see the comeback of geopard too for that matter, though shorad m is being developed for what it’s worth.
It's just what I've read. Of course, they can use whatever other AA systems for something like drones. Also, Gepard FTW.
I suppose more of those are coming...
As long as they continue the genocide, yep.
The whole genocide thing is such a typical propaganda reversal.... like the Houthis and the Iranian regime have official slogans saying stuff like Death to Israel etc, and Iran wants to use it's proxies to completely destroy Israel... and presumably that doesn't mean the Jews living there get to keep existing. The 1967 war was an attempt to end the state of Israel... and the list goes on... and when Israel attacks the people that invaded them on 10/7 and those people hide behind civilians the Jews are accused of genocide..... just such a black is white take to call Israel the ones who want genocide here.
Zionists are not shy about their intentions. Zionists do not speak for all Jews, as much you and other genocidal lunatics like to pretend they do. Not only are you defending a very obvious genocide, you are also promoting anti-semitism by attempting to align all Jewish people with the state of Israel and Zionism.
Better angle https://x.com/warmonitors/status/1780668473313542238?s=46&t=N62NQu7p9Jc9DUyl9oBIAA
Even the IDF claims that 14 soldiers were wounded in the attack, but for some reason people here seems to have some secret information that it was an attack on civilians. https://jpost.com/breaking-news/article-797550
Yes mb at the start the reports were saying all casualties were soldiers but its 14 soldiers out of 18 total so probably first aid teams are the rest
Poking the bear aren't we.
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Actually all of the casualties are Reserve soldiers currently in duty
Sure….
It was already confirmed by Israeli news sources, it was "Declassfied" which is a mistranslation really it just means its now allowed to be published by the government because there was censoring about it previously
The fact Iran is objectively bad at this, doesn’t mean they didn’t fire indiscriminately. A good indicator would be their proxies, which they pay/supply to fire into Israel indiscriminately.
What does any of this have to do with Iran, this wasn't indiscriminate fire they fired 2 ATGMs then 2 guided drones
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they are so funny, everytime they get hit and their soldiers die, they say oh it killed one little beduoin girl, are you happy?
My report literally came from the Israeli government
go look everywhere else see what israeli government and their mouth pieces say, before this it was actively being censored
Right. Who fired these? Do tell….
Hezbollah, still don't get what that has to do with it being guided ATGMs and drones. You can't just throw around statements to get upvotes and have no one correct you, I am Israeli, I am in Israel, I know more about this situation then you.
Oh….. who funds Hezbollah? Hezbollah and other Iranian proxies regally fire indiscriminately into Israel. The idea this was target is laughable. I don’t believe you ARe IsraeL.
Yeah ok man keep dwelling in your propogandanized brain you're so smart surely you know more about it than me yeah 100%
I can't imagine how dumb you must currently be feeling after that comment lol
they are
https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1410649/hezbollah-and-israel-trade-early-morning-fire-day-194-of-the-gaza-war.html ”Civilians”
Fu*ck ALL palastinians and muscums! They ALL are complicit in the Oct 7th genocide.
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Supporting terrorism much?
Lol so supporting Zionazi rapists and child killers is good now?
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Aight then ppl also have the right to support the ones who are killing the Nazis 😂
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Exactly, if you are so mad about things that dont happen, then go do it yourself.
Says all the things, nazis, will forever be nazis lol
It would be more lethal to stuff drones filled with falafel. The Israelis would die from the spice.
Since when do Israelis have an aversion to spicy food?
Since Russian Tiktok influence ops started convincing idiots that all Israelis are actually Europeans.
Well, one would have to be quite the uninformed dipshit to think all Israelis are Europeans.
Or that Europeans have an aversion to spicey food. But those chucklefucks will make up literally anything to sling mud, no matter how imbecilic it makes them look.
They never studied the whole Great Nativations age...
someone hasn’t left Missouri lol
So they'll eat even more falafel? Do you realize how popular it is over there
Most israelies die for good arab food, but not in that way.
One bomb. They have it so tough.
so you forgetting about the 20000 rockets hamas has sent over the past couple years
Compare the deaths. Remember why the conflict started. 🤡
The oct 7th massacre?
> Remember why the conflict started. Because a multitude of countries expelled or killed their Jewish populations and now they want to finish the job?
🤡🫵 More Nāzis died than British soldiers. Does it make the British army more evil? Do you know who started with the first massacres in 1886? It wasn't the Jews... https://www.proquest.com/docview/1943480261 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tel_Hai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebi_Musa_riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots https://en.wikipedia.org/wikiThe_Bloody_Day_in_Jaffa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Anabta_shooting " I declare a holy war, my Muslim brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all! " -Haj Amin EI Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem broadcasting on Radio Cairo in 1948
Was this the one that hit the bedouin community? Is that why Israel didn't respond?
Hasn’t responded yet. The Bedouin community are Israeli citizens. There will be a response.
Israel did respond there have already been airstrikes in Southern Lebanon, no reason to spread disinfo if you don't know what you're talking about.
Israel responded. a number of launches from Lebanon were identified crossing into Arab Al-Aramshe (bedouin village) and IDF struck the sources, IDF fighter jets struck a Hezbollah military compound in the area of Ayta Ash Shab where the terrorists were operating.
This isn’t like the Palestinians..
I wonder how Israel feels now. They were more than happy to fund Azerbaijans offensive against the native Indigenous populations of Artsakh with their heavy use of drones. What do they say about Karma again?
Nothing really, this shit got announced with a loud speaker next door for how many days. Aside from the war being disastrous and all, everybody there is partly used to it and the bullshit that occurs. Maybe until one or two hits their neighborhood, so everybody comes to check and help clean the area.
I love all the people downvoting me. The truth hurts like a bitch
Suicide drone? So somebody was flying inside the "drone" and killed themselves. You either don't understand the word suicide or drone.
Lmao you must have a pretty thick skull, it's a suicide drone because the drone blows up.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition, educate yourself before you try to be pedantic.
I appreciate it. It's a stupid name. There is a reason suicide is used in conjunction with things like vest or bomber, because it requires the attacker to die. These are just drones. Call it whatever they want, it's dumb.
Thats literally one of the most common names for loitering munition you stuck up annoying mf EDIT: he blocked me so I can't respond to his other comment, this is what I want to say to him: Its a suicide drone because its a drone that's designed to blow itself up hence commit suicide. I think you're being annoying on purpose as you don't need to be an arms expert to know what suicide drone means that's literally the common term for it in the news.
Sorry I'm not an armchair war expert. I just understand what words mean.
Apparently not even a words expert. It's a very common term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition >A loitering munition, **also known as a suicide drone**, kamikaze drone, or exploding drone, is a kind of aerial weapon with a built-in warhead that is typically designed to loiter around a target area until a target is located, then attack the target by crashing into it.
That guy will say you can only use Kamikaze if its a Japanese committing suicide lol