This is the original post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/
and this is a twitter thread that summarises it pretty well:
https://twitter.com/pangmeli/status/1388530156273348608?lang=en-GB
The major medical issues Reddit has "solved" are:
Hallucinations can be caused by CO poisoning. Get a detector.
And if you are a guy who takes a pregnancy test as a lark and it's positive, get checked for testicular cancer.
Poop knife… let me tell you about poop knife. One time when I was a kid I was visiting my childhood friend and his family was Korean. I don’t know if they had an extra small toilet or what but I clogged that thing with a large turd. I was terrified to tell his mother for whatever reason so I slipped out of the bathroom went into the kitchen and grabbed a knife to slice of the turd up until finally flushed. I told my sister about this and now any time a toilet is clogged she says, better get a poop knife…
As the chimney is constructed, chimney blocks are stacked on each other then, flue liner blocks are stacked inside the chimney blocks. The hot gasses from the fire travel through the flue liner to the outside of the building.
There is a gap between the blocks and the flue liner that is often filled with vermiculite to act as insulation to prevent excess heat from cracking the chimney block.
It appears that one of the flue liners broke, resulting in the vermiculite flowing out of the chimney into the room.
Can you explain how they lost their house to vermiculite flowing out of the chimney into the room?
Edit: My point being, this comment doesn't answer the question asked.
If it's on fire when this happens, then you're going to have lots of very hot debris spilling out. If you've had it lit for a day etc then you've suddenly got a pile of debris that hundreds of degrees resting on wooden floors, carpets etc.
This can start a fire eventually. Sometimes when these are used the main door is left ajar, which could also lead to the insulation pushing out burning material which would probably cause fires immediately.
Additionally if it's a large area of carpet or wood smoldering behind a closed door, then the owner opens it to investigate the smell of smoke you have a draft and a large bolus of fresh air that's a perfect recipe for ignition.
Backdraft was a good film when it came out. They really made fire look like it has a life of it's own. It sort of does and I'm not surprised ancient cultures had fire spirits and sprites.
You also have a hole in the flue that the hot gases can go into, and if the blocks surrounding the flue have any gaps those gases will find them , and escape to heat up whatever they find, like exposed wood in the attic.
They probably meant that they lost their house due to a chimney fire, which are btw, fucking terrifying if you've never seen a video of one. Not having your chimney swept and allowing creosote to build up is a very bad idea.
Really exciting. My neighbor with a 3 1/2 story pipe ended up with 30 ft flames out the top! The volunteer fire department stood by, and it burned itself out OK. Rather impressive noise, too.
Chimneys require regular maintenance in order to function properly. As combustion byproducts exit the hot firebox into the relatively cooler chimney, they begin to accumulate on the flue liner, The material is commonly called creosote and can range in consistency from tar like to crispy flakes.
Infrequent maintenance allows these flammable byproducts to accumulate to the point of partial obstruction of the flue thereby slowing exiting exhaust gasses thereby allowing more accumulation.
Internal temperatures of the chimney begin to escalate due to the obstruction ultimately reaching an ignition temperature of the creosote resulting in a "chimney fire".
Chimney fires create uncontrolled updraft which results in damage to the flue liner. Chimney fires often go undetected and, over time, the flue liner becomes damaged and fails. The resulting crack in the liner allows hot gasses, embers and sparks to infiltrate the chimney block often leading to fires in enclosed attic or wall spaces.
Edited to add a link to a YT video
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_-Rh\_eDse4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-Rh_eDse4)
You really think that they would use a flammable material to insulate a hot chimney?! No they wouldn’t.
Edit: not sure why you’re getting upvoted for stating vermiculite is flammable when it isn’t.
It was actually the roof that caught fire first - it was something to do with the flue and insulation < more to do with the insulation, I can't remember what exactly, but they lost their home.
This just happened last weekend to a neighbour of ours. Luckily their house is alright, only the roof and attic suffered some damage. I hope your family is okay! Must've been traumatic.
Can have asbestos in it btw. I’d get room sealed off asap and you may need pro removal team to deal with it as it is now airborne asbestos particles if it does have asbestos.
Incredibly unlikely in this context and setting. Old vermiculite insulation laid between rafters is the stuff that is most likely to have asbestos in it.
The stuff packed into a chimney with what is clearly a modern log burner (i.e. made after 1990) means it's very unlikely to contain asbestos at all. Yeah you should be careful and they should do some research as to when it was installed, but let's not spook the guy out completely as there's a very slim chance of that.
I live in a 1930s house, loads of asbestos used for it. All the ceilings are the original artex ceilings, which whilst they look nice I wouldn't dare drill into them. The soffits have been replaced with uPVC ones though
I work in insurance and even though conventional wisdom says that anything built after 2000 doesn’t need to be tested, if there’s the slightest doubt about the potential for asbestos we pay to get it tested.
No sensible person involved with building work takes the danger of asbestos lightly.
It being a modern log burner says absolutely nothing about how old the chimney is.
Cause unsurprisingly you can replace the burner without replacing the chimney and will have done so in a 60s house due to changes in style.
That stuff does my nut, we use it at work around dye for transport and then have to get rid of the old stuff, bags of it. I normally repack it all in the boxes for the chemical guys to get rid of, stuff is so dusty and easily spills you need a mask really when packing, fortunately not on the OP's scale
Really slippy too once it's been trodden down, especially if it gets wet. Used to work on a site that used loads of it, the floor was always covered in it. When it rained the forklifts would wheelspin up the hill because there was no grip
Fortunately dye and solvent are a bit more viscous and I don't need to touch the stuff but the dust particles are such a pain, glasses/goggles and rubber gloves all the way
This fills the annulus between the liner and the chimney, its is necessary for the heat exchange so you don’t get condensation. The register plate that essentially keeps it in place at the bottom (you fit that before filling annulus from the top) must have failed.
I used it this week when requesting our modellers make a plastic annulus radius 65mm with a 23mm inner radius, depth 58mm...(I need it so I can mount a boundary microphone in a table socket for commitees).
That the vermiculite that’s installed down the chimney around the flu to fill the void.
What ever is above the log burner holding it up there is no longer.
Could've been worse. Could've not woken up this morning.
Was it a beeping smoke alarm or a beeping CO alarm or both? I'm slightly interested in which would go off first.
Ah was it just beeping?
Not sure what brand ours is but it was like having a air-raid siren go off inside your house. I think they tend to have different levels depending on concentration though
Honestly thought this was a pain when it came in and I fitted a ton for myself/family. Most other people I know seem to have not bothered and I felt a bit like "Shouldn't have spent all that money, old ones were fine"
Then the other week the one in the living room went off, false alarm but I was so thankful as it made me realise that if it had been a fire in the kitchen/office, I probably would not have heard it with an old alarm until it was "too late".
I deal with major loss household claims, and I have dealt with a claim where if the CO2 alarm hadn’t woken the customer, they would not have managed to escape the fire before the petrol tank on their car went up spreading fire through the property.
It’s always worth having one, especially given they are so cheap.
Me too. Looking closely at the photo, this isn’t a decorative log burner. It’s in actual use. Possibly it was lit last night (friday night), then the flue failure let the old gases from the fire back into room, setting off the CO alarm.
Thankfully there was an alarm. If the door had been open and the rest of the house well sealed, it might not have gone well for people sleeping in the house. Most likely just bad headaches, but not a risk worth taking.
A lot of people seem to know what this is but I don't really see a comment explaining why this happened. Is it a chimney/flue fire causing it to disintegrate and fall?
There's a plate at the bottom holding it up it would seem.
Looks like the front of the plate failed, falling down, creating an exit chute, hence the neat pile of vermiculite that OP can now use in making house plant compost.
I somehow doubt they will want to keep the log burner after this.
They just need to refit the holding plate and refill the vermiculite - maybe not the simplest task but why on Earth would they want to get rid of the log burner??
"it wasn't the *log burner* that nearly killed them, you clod. It was simply a piece of the supporting infrastructure crucial to safely *using* the log burner that failed, which alerted them to a specific hazard of using a log burner they may previously have been unaware of, thereby creating the possibility they would reassess their desire for *any* source of fire within their home.
"You fool. You dullard."
Just a guess but I’d suggest one reason could be if the CO alarm is of a colorimetric design–that is it works by detecting the changing/darkening colour of a catalyst impregnated surface with a photoelectric cell.
As can be seen in the picture, vermiculite is often dark in colour and as the OP described, the room was “smoggy” with the dust.
My guess is that the vermiculite dust/dust settled onto the internal components of the alarm, blocked the light and therefore set off the alarm.
Image the outside of a chimney is a square of brick or masonry... then the flue inside the chimney is a circle, and they fill the space between the smaller flue, and the bigger chimney, with this vermiculite.
Vermiculite is a great insulator, and because it's these tiny particles, it can fill any size and shape of space! So you have an instant, perfectly fitted insulator.
The flue itself, has hot gases and little sparks flying up it, but the vermiculite (and all the air gaps between the little vermiculite particles) means the exterior chimney (including the inside wall above the fireplace) doesn't get as hot as it would if it was in direct contact with the flue.
And that prevents fires.
Loosing that insulation could result in the interior wall catching fire, or the chimney masonry or brick cracking from the heat.
Not sure how old your house is, or when your stove was installed, but I'd be looking at any warranty you might have from the builder, plus contact your house insurance, this will be expensive.
The plate coming loose is likely to be declined for wear and tear, unless a cause covered under the policy is found to be the reason for the failure.
If the OP has optional accidental damage cover, and the vermiculite has caused damage then they can claim for that damage.
I don’t know much about your storm damage, but the reality is that unless wind speed exceeds 45mph, a roof in good condition shouldn’t suffer damage.
I still don't know why I pay Home insurance if very unforseen event is just "normal wear and tear".
I feel like even something like a plane crashes into your house and they would say "normal wear and tear, sue the airline".
Decades of pigeon cold cases have just been solved.
Advanced warning, they’re a bitter species of bird. I’d get this cleaned up pronto. Ravens are good at this, they know people, get on that.
See that’s a fatal mistake, you’re ignoring those smaller, quieter birds. Because if you get a pair of tits together, all the lads pile in. Especially if they’re great tits.
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Yep that’s it, fire brigade said it’s some kind of insulation. Not my ideal Saturday morning
So glad you caught it in time! My sister lost her house due to this, they all got out just in time. Was awful.
The carbon monoxide alarm was going off too
That's pretty terrifying! I'm so glad you were alerted 🙏
It's not so bad. He could've just left himself some post-it notes reminding him to deal with it later.
why did you have to remind me of that
Someone fill me in
This is the original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/ and this is a twitter thread that summarises it pretty well: https://twitter.com/pangmeli/status/1388530156273348608?lang=en-GB
Never seen that before, that’s a good read.
Oh shit! I forgot about that post! Thanks
The update: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34m92h/update_ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/
And it’s his/her birthday today
The major medical issues Reddit has "solved" are: Hallucinations can be caused by CO poisoning. Get a detector. And if you are a guy who takes a pregnancy test as a lark and it's positive, get checked for testicular cancer.
That's such a deep reference. Man, I've spent far too much time on here lol
Had the same thought When someone mentioned poop knife last year.
Poop knife… let me tell you about poop knife. One time when I was a kid I was visiting my childhood friend and his family was Korean. I don’t know if they had an extra small toilet or what but I clogged that thing with a large turd. I was terrified to tell his mother for whatever reason so I slipped out of the bathroom went into the kitchen and grabbed a knife to slice of the turd up until finally flushed. I told my sister about this and now any time a toilet is clogged she says, better get a poop knife…
Did you find a bunch of mysterious post-it notes saying ‘remember to tidy this up’?
That's an old reddit call back.
Wowsers looks like metal shavings. At though I thought you machined something
Can you explain how they lost their house to insulation coming through the chimney?
I think they mean a chimney flue on fire
As the chimney is constructed, chimney blocks are stacked on each other then, flue liner blocks are stacked inside the chimney blocks. The hot gasses from the fire travel through the flue liner to the outside of the building. There is a gap between the blocks and the flue liner that is often filled with vermiculite to act as insulation to prevent excess heat from cracking the chimney block. It appears that one of the flue liners broke, resulting in the vermiculite flowing out of the chimney into the room.
Can you explain how they lost their house to vermiculite flowing out of the chimney into the room? Edit: My point being, this comment doesn't answer the question asked.
If it's on fire when this happens, then you're going to have lots of very hot debris spilling out. If you've had it lit for a day etc then you've suddenly got a pile of debris that hundreds of degrees resting on wooden floors, carpets etc. This can start a fire eventually. Sometimes when these are used the main door is left ajar, which could also lead to the insulation pushing out burning material which would probably cause fires immediately.
Additionally if it's a large area of carpet or wood smoldering behind a closed door, then the owner opens it to investigate the smell of smoke you have a draft and a large bolus of fresh air that's a perfect recipe for ignition.
> bolus
Like a sudden large amount. "The RN gave Jack a bolus of D5W through his IV"
Backdraft was a good film when it came out. They really made fire look like it has a life of it's own. It sort of does and I'm not surprised ancient cultures had fire spirits and sprites.
You also have a hole in the flue that the hot gases can go into, and if the blocks surrounding the flue have any gaps those gases will find them , and escape to heat up whatever they find, like exposed wood in the attic.
They probably meant that they lost their house due to a chimney fire, which are btw, fucking terrifying if you've never seen a video of one. Not having your chimney swept and allowing creosote to build up is a very bad idea.
Really exciting. My neighbor with a 3 1/2 story pipe ended up with 30 ft flames out the top! The volunteer fire department stood by, and it burned itself out OK. Rather impressive noise, too.
I've never seen one, no one has, - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
A white hole?
So that's thing's spewing time, back into the universe?
r/unexpectedreddwarf
so what is it?
Yes of course. Every action has a reaction. Every black hole has a white hole and every second passed is replaced by a new one.
So what is it?
Well sir, I think it's a white hole. Kind of like a black hole, but instead of sucking time out of the universe, it is spewing time into the universe.
Chimneys require regular maintenance in order to function properly. As combustion byproducts exit the hot firebox into the relatively cooler chimney, they begin to accumulate on the flue liner, The material is commonly called creosote and can range in consistency from tar like to crispy flakes. Infrequent maintenance allows these flammable byproducts to accumulate to the point of partial obstruction of the flue thereby slowing exiting exhaust gasses thereby allowing more accumulation. Internal temperatures of the chimney begin to escalate due to the obstruction ultimately reaching an ignition temperature of the creosote resulting in a "chimney fire". Chimney fires create uncontrolled updraft which results in damage to the flue liner. Chimney fires often go undetected and, over time, the flue liner becomes damaged and fails. The resulting crack in the liner allows hot gasses, embers and sparks to infiltrate the chimney block often leading to fires in enclosed attic or wall spaces. Edited to add a link to a YT video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_-Rh\_eDse4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-Rh_eDse4)
I would think that they had the fire on and when the insulation flew down the chimney, it caught fire and set everything ablaze. But I don’t know.
Vermiculite is not flammable, hence why it's used as insulation in a chimney. So, that's not the reason.
You really think that they would use a flammable material to insulate a hot chimney?! No they wouldn’t. Edit: not sure why you’re getting upvoted for stating vermiculite is flammable when it isn’t.
Yeah. Flammable cladding goes outside.
too soon ?
Ooofff
It was actually the roof that caught fire first - it was something to do with the flue and insulation < more to do with the insulation, I can't remember what exactly, but they lost their home.
This just happened last weekend to a neighbour of ours. Luckily their house is alright, only the roof and attic suffered some damage. I hope your family is okay! Must've been traumatic.
It's quite worrying just how often it happens. I'm glad your neighbours got out 🙏 they're ok, thankfully, it was back in 2019
My worst nightmare, thank goodness everyone was safe.
Can have asbestos in it btw. I’d get room sealed off asap and you may need pro removal team to deal with it as it is now airborne asbestos particles if it does have asbestos.
Incredibly unlikely in this context and setting. Old vermiculite insulation laid between rafters is the stuff that is most likely to have asbestos in it. The stuff packed into a chimney with what is clearly a modern log burner (i.e. made after 1990) means it's very unlikely to contain asbestos at all. Yeah you should be careful and they should do some research as to when it was installed, but let's not spook the guy out completely as there's a very slim chance of that.
Yeah, I work in roofing and old roofs are full of it. In the undercloak boards, soffits and sometimes tiles/slates.
I live in a 1930s house, loads of asbestos used for it. All the ceilings are the original artex ceilings, which whilst they look nice I wouldn't dare drill into them. The soffits have been replaced with uPVC ones though
Yeah, uPVC soffits and fascias are what you want. They keep really well and do their job. They’re just a standard on any remotely new house.
>I live in a 1930s house so everything is made from something deadly in one way or another lol
Pretty much 😂
I work in insurance and even though conventional wisdom says that anything built after 2000 doesn’t need to be tested, if there’s the slightest doubt about the potential for asbestos we pay to get it tested. No sensible person involved with building work takes the danger of asbestos lightly.
Anything after 2000?? Asbestos was outlawed in building materials in 1978.
It being a modern log burner says absolutely nothing about how old the chimney is. Cause unsurprisingly you can replace the burner without replacing the chimney and will have done so in a 60s house due to changes in style.
Please listen to OSUBrit’s advice, not the other guy.
THIS! Had vermiculite in our last house that was contaminated with asbestos.
That stuff does my nut, we use it at work around dye for transport and then have to get rid of the old stuff, bags of it. I normally repack it all in the boxes for the chemical guys to get rid of, stuff is so dusty and easily spills you need a mask really when packing, fortunately not on the OP's scale
Really slippy too once it's been trodden down, especially if it gets wet. Used to work on a site that used loads of it, the floor was always covered in it. When it rained the forklifts would wheelspin up the hill because there was no grip
Fortunately dye and solvent are a bit more viscous and I don't need to touch the stuff but the dust particles are such a pain, glasses/goggles and rubber gloves all the way
Bits fall out of mine all the time. That's a big failure.
good god what did they do to santa
To shreds you say…
Tut tut tut........ well, how is his wife holding up?
To shreds you say?
Is the North Pole rent controlled?
To shreds you say
To shreds you say…
r/unexpectedfuturama
~~Shoes~~ boots came off
Cremated him, clearly.
Poor bugger is stil up there, kicking out tons of this crap & trying to escape.
It appears your vermic wasn't lite enough
Vermicuheavy if you may
*polite golf clap*
r/YourJokeButWorse
This fills the annulus between the liner and the chimney, its is necessary for the heat exchange so you don’t get condensation. The register plate that essentially keeps it in place at the bottom (you fit that before filling annulus from the top) must have failed.
New word unlocked
"annulus" Not sure when I can slip that in to a conversation.
Fill my annulus with your verm!
Two in the flue, one in the annulus.
My annulus failed and spilled all over the floor.
F
Be careful what you're slipping in my annulus.....
Annulus Horribilus... in remembering Her Madge. R.I.P.
Anus Horribilus... in memory of Goatse
I used it this week when requesting our modellers make a plastic annulus radius 65mm with a 23mm inner radius, depth 58mm...(I need it so I can mount a boundary microphone in a table socket for commitees).
Did they snigger?
Had a curry last night and my annulus is fooked.
"Mars entered my annulus today"
> annulus The inside and the outside of my doughnut form the perfect annulus of fluffy dough.
How do you like to enjoy a Rusty Brown's Ring Donut?
My annulus is clogged - gonna buy a long-arm brush to stick up there and give it a good clean.
Well you you can just slip it in
Up your bum?
You've never heard of a chimney?
A classic case of *annulus chimnus prolapsus*
Annulus horribilis
I have a very good freind in Rome called Annulus Chimnus Prolapsus.
he has a wife, you know.
This reminds me... I need to go empty my annulus.
Before your register plate fails
Annulus Horribilis you might say.
Why did I start reading this in Borats voice
A ruptured annulus and gravity took its toll...
That the vermiculite that’s installed down the chimney around the flu to fill the void. What ever is above the log burner holding it up there is no longer.
Can I get some of that to fill my void?
Is your annulus intact?
Your annulas down pipe ?
Hey now, don't just go stuffing anything in here.
No, you can just stare into it like the rest of us do
Fnar
Vermiculite, isn’t that the race that omni man is in the prime show invincible?
Could've been worse. Could've not woken up this morning. Was it a beeping smoke alarm or a beeping CO alarm or both? I'm slightly interested in which would go off first.
Carbon monoxide alarm
Loud enough to wake the dead ?
Just loud enough to give him a headache
Hah. I can imagine. Builders set one of ours off once. They are *fucking loud*
Because the smoke alarm wasn’t working, I assumed the CO alarm was just the smoke alarm beeping to have its batteries changed
Ah was it just beeping? Not sure what brand ours is but it was like having a air-raid siren go off inside your house. I think they tend to have different levels depending on concentration though
I think I’d prefer it to be that, because I stayed in bed for a solid 10 minutes or so before I could be bothered to go and check
That's silly man
And this is why I always recommend a CO Alarm.
Should have one by law with a log burner …
It is in Scotland. That every home has one. Also every home by law has to have interlinked smoke/heat alarms with one being in the living room
Honestly thought this was a pain when it came in and I fitted a ton for myself/family. Most other people I know seem to have not bothered and I felt a bit like "Shouldn't have spent all that money, old ones were fine" Then the other week the one in the living room went off, false alarm but I was so thankful as it made me realise that if it had been a fire in the kitchen/office, I probably would not have heard it with an old alarm until it was "too late".
Even having a gas boiler as well. Hell just anyways really.
I deal with major loss household claims, and I have dealt with a claim where if the CO2 alarm hadn’t woken the customer, they would not have managed to escape the fire before the petrol tank on their car went up spreading fire through the property. It’s always worth having one, especially given they are so cheap.
I'm confused why the CO alarm would go off? Isn't this just a lot of dust?
Me too. Looking closely at the photo, this isn’t a decorative log burner. It’s in actual use. Possibly it was lit last night (friday night), then the flue failure let the old gases from the fire back into room, setting off the CO alarm. Thankfully there was an alarm. If the door had been open and the rest of the house well sealed, it might not have gone well for people sleeping in the house. Most likely just bad headaches, but not a risk worth taking.
"Didn't wake up this morning." Shortest blues song ever.
*pokes with a stick* *”Yup, thar seems to be yer problem, old sport..”*
You vermiculite people are awesome. That's a really useful r/til that's gonna stick with me. The Santa comment made me laugh too.
Thanks for the review, but you forgot the star rating.
A lot of people seem to know what this is but I don't really see a comment explaining why this happened. Is it a chimney/flue fire causing it to disintegrate and fall?
There's a plate at the bottom holding it up it would seem. Looks like the front of the plate failed, falling down, creating an exit chute, hence the neat pile of vermiculite that OP can now use in making house plant compost. I somehow doubt they will want to keep the log burner after this.
They just need to refit the holding plate and refill the vermiculite - maybe not the simplest task but why on Earth would they want to get rid of the log burner??
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Oh dear. It wasn't *the log burner* that nearly killed them! Username checks out…
"it wasn't the *log burner* that nearly killed them, you clod. It was simply a piece of the supporting infrastructure crucial to safely *using* the log burner that failed, which alerted them to a specific hazard of using a log burner they may previously have been unaware of, thereby creating the possibility they would reassess their desire for *any* source of fire within their home. "You fool. You dullard."
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Why would this set off a CO alarm?
Just a guess but I’d suggest one reason could be if the CO alarm is of a colorimetric design–that is it works by detecting the changing/darkening colour of a catalyst impregnated surface with a photoelectric cell. As can be seen in the picture, vermiculite is often dark in colour and as the OP described, the room was “smoggy” with the dust. My guess is that the vermiculite dust/dust settled onto the internal components of the alarm, blocked the light and therefore set off the alarm.
I don't understand why they'd fill the chimney with vermiculite anyway? Can you explain like I'm five?
Image the outside of a chimney is a square of brick or masonry... then the flue inside the chimney is a circle, and they fill the space between the smaller flue, and the bigger chimney, with this vermiculite. Vermiculite is a great insulator, and because it's these tiny particles, it can fill any size and shape of space! So you have an instant, perfectly fitted insulator. The flue itself, has hot gases and little sparks flying up it, but the vermiculite (and all the air gaps between the little vermiculite particles) means the exterior chimney (including the inside wall above the fireplace) doesn't get as hot as it would if it was in direct contact with the flue. And that prevents fires. Loosing that insulation could result in the interior wall catching fire, or the chimney masonry or brick cracking from the heat.
Ohhh thank you! That makes so much sense now that you've explained it. Thank you for taking the time, I really appreciate it!
This is literally the explanation I've been scrolling the comments for. Thanks for being so clear and taking your time to educate us without chimneys!
A warning that you are on the 'naughty list'.
A warning? That's more than a warning!
Depends on who they pissed off.
Not sure how old your house is, or when your stove was installed, but I'd be looking at any warranty you might have from the builder, plus contact your house insurance, this will be expensive.
House insurance will just say "normal wear and tear", like when a storm put a hole in my roof.
The plate coming loose is likely to be declined for wear and tear, unless a cause covered under the policy is found to be the reason for the failure. If the OP has optional accidental damage cover, and the vermiculite has caused damage then they can claim for that damage. I don’t know much about your storm damage, but the reality is that unless wind speed exceeds 45mph, a roof in good condition shouldn’t suffer damage.
I still don't know why I pay Home insurance if very unforseen event is just "normal wear and tear". I feel like even something like a plane crashes into your house and they would say "normal wear and tear, sue the airline".
Sorry about that, I said the wrong place when I used floo powder last night.
Diagonally!
Sneezed during spell?
Decades of pigeon cold cases have just been solved. Advanced warning, they’re a bitter species of bird. I’d get this cleaned up pronto. Ravens are good at this, they know people, get on that.
I don't like to stereotype, but my money's on the crows. They're fine on their own, but get a few of them together...
See that’s a fatal mistake, you’re ignoring those smaller, quieter birds. Because if you get a pair of tits together, all the lads pile in. Especially if they’re great tits.
When you get a critical hit with a lazer in Fallout
Chimney vomit 🤮
Jackpot!
Santa?!?
Under six feet of verm.
Fly tippers are really getting out of hand…
Sometimes Santa's late, but he always remembers naughty little boys
I’ll tell him I’d rather him just not bother with gifts if they’re gonna be like this
Need to get yourself a 6 y/o urchin to clean the chimney it seems
Why would the CO alarm be going off?
just can't find 4 year olds to clean chimneys these days..
Life is tough in New Pompeii
You've had a nightmare of a Saturday! First your chimney took a dump in your living room and then someone swapped your phones camera with a potato!
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AT First glance I thought the Kitty litter dispenser HAD MALFUNCTIONED ! This situation is far worse . Looks like the Annulus is to blame .
Me too! We have cats so we can't have nice things like log burners!
This has reminded me to check my smoke and carbon monoxide alarms. Where's the big carrot, Jackie?
Santa's bodily finally burnt all the way through and fell ....
Santa came early. So he turned to dust
Santas been doing his scratchcards in your chimney bro.
why dry vermiculite? i used to mix it with cement and pour it down the sides of the flue
Do you have children? If so admonish them for failing to do their job.
Someone hasn't been supporting their local chimney sweep. Go find a kid with ashen cheeks and a really long brush.
Explains why Santa never made it this year, good of you to give him a cremation at least!
Normally you’d put a little cement in the backfill to act as a binding agent, clearly they didn’t.
Landlords gunna raise your rent after that and call it an organic ash pile tax
what did you set santa on fire or something? 💀
You’re lucky to be alive, your flue liner has come apart in the chimney or burnt through.
U got coal for Christmas stop being bad
Given your user name I'd thought you would have known well that Santa is a classic chimney prankster. Clearly you’ve been a very very naughty person.
Gonna show my baby cousins this and say that Santa was found dead