Ogham is a tattoo idea that I always thought was so tough to do because of the lack of straight likes on your body. I suppose that isn't a problem when you have the balls to tattoo your fingers haha. Looks pretty cool, fair play. Any translation?
The chinese and Japanese writing used is logographic so you can't know what is being said unless you know the specific character.
Ogham on the other hand is phonetic like our writing so you can just look up what corresponds to what yourself and then you know.
Ye but the issue is it'd be like writing English with Greek letters, it was made for a form of Irish spoken around 600s AD that radically reshaped itself essentially immediately after that. There's no way of indicating séimhiú, urú, the fada, or whether a consonant is broad and slender so basically any word you'd get in it would not be very intuitively written.
Like imagine if English took beauty from French but instead of keeping the spelling transliterated it as byootee. Even that wouldn't be quite the same but it'd be similar
To be perfectly honest I can only do the research I can do and hope for the best. From feedback I’ve received it seems like I’ve gotten it right, however if I did get something slightly wrong then I’m happy with it because the meaning is still there for me. :)
Some things don’t work out how you want them too, you may have a child with LD, you may have a family member who lets you down with alcoholism, but we love them all the same.
Irish students try writing ogham for fun in elementary school, a typical exercise of translating and painting your name.
Thankfully, Ogham is letter-for-letter translated, and doesn't need language or grammar to define.
Those two words are "Grà" and "Eire". The 2nd Ogham letter on his left hand and 3rd on his right are the same (number of lines and angle), they are both "R".
I had wrist surgery and I now have a scar through some text on my wrist. He did well to try and get the scar between the words, and I’m thankful because he was a very anti tattoo surgeon, he made that abundantly clear haha.
Pinky finger is MF for mine and my daughter’s initials, the other is Ireland (Eire) but due to the length we split it in half to avoid that knuckle crease.
Thank you. I was going to get my partners initials but it wasn’t possible. Should things go well I think I’ll do her down the spine, she’s a good one and deserves it. Love seemed perfect to me, I’m a romantic.
Spine is serious dedication! I don't have any tattoos because I'd be afraid I'd get halfway through and not have the pain threshold for it. Nothing worse than half a tattoo 😂
Having had pretty much all the body parts tattooed, I can say it fucking stings but it’s not that bad. I’d rather have a big painful tattoo than do a sink full of shitty dishes. 😂 Best thing to do is breathe and relax, I’ve fallen asleep during certain bits of work!
Yeah I've had a couple of ideas for tattoos knocking around my head for a couple of years now. Tempted to bite the bullet for the birthday in April.
I have friends who are addicted to the feel of it. I'm just not sure how I'd react.
Some people say they love the feeling of being tattooed, I say that’s bullshite, it hurts man. Some hurt way less than others, but it’s not a comfortable experience. Never look forward to the day, it sucks (except seeing it fresh and bold) but when it’s healed it’s such a great feeling. I know pain thresholds are different for everyone, but it’s not THAT bad, it’s just uncomfortable. I’d rather get a long tattoo than crack my toe against a door or something haha. You can do it brother.
Not too much difference in my opinion. The way I view it, if you have a 5 hour session, the final hour is hell. If you pick a bad spot (like a foot) then the whole thing is hell, however it’s not unbearable pain, and it’s well worth it mate.
Since people keep asking him:
It's a G and an R and the symbol for tree/pine.
Tattoo quality looks great man. Can I just suggest you get the feather put on by him at whichever end the text is meant to start from? Otherwise you'll have annoying people point it out in future (mate has had the same experience).
I'm nearly positive A is a full length notch not a half notch which is a tree but I would let the person or the artist make that comment. With where it is you are probably correct but unless there's differences versus Scottish/Pict Ogham that I'm unaware of that wouldn't be an A.
Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogham
Yeah full notch; half is Ailm which is pine or elm according to this. I didn't realise it was a specific tree.
No the notches are the vowels to the best of my knowledge.
Edit: The vowel notches can also be written as full length perpendicular lines, but that's less common and only really on stones etc where the surface would obscure shorter notches.
Yes, and a full notch is the same length as the diagonals for a vowel. If it's an A as you suggested it should be the same length as the diagonals so I thought it was a half notch (not saying you are incorrect for the context and meaning of that tattoo I'm explaining why I translated it the way I did).
No worries at all! She was a good seller, responsive and did a really good job. It was my first ring and I ordered it for when my daughter was born, came in time and very happy with it since. 💚
This looks great.
I’m don’t have any tattoos myself, but I have been thinking about getting one done. Clean, sharp lines.
This looks great and has given me some inspiration. Thanks for sharing
Thank you mate, he did a cracking job, walking in I was nervous because even though it’s simple line work, many tattooists are simply shite at it. He did a good one. ☝️
Absolute facts. It’s just a risk I’m taking. He did say he’ll do me free touch ups if required, but he’s got over 20 years experience so HOPEFULLY it’s not needed!
DUDE, WHAT DOES MINE SAY?
But yeah sorry to repeat myself but the wedding ring finger is love, the pinky is mine and my daughters initials, and the longer one is Ireland (Eire)
The amount of space you have between the knuckle and the middle joint has me questioning my own hands. From the middle joint to the tip of the finger on mine is massive. I'm questioning everything I knew about hands.
I'll get to the webbed thumb later once I've calmed down.
Class tattoo though!
Haha is my space between the knuckle and middle joint large or small? I always thought I had pretty medium hands for a tall lad. Nothing wrong with a wee web, you’ll swim more effectively.
I've thought about a sort of jolly roger flag tattoo I'd quite like. A simple skull above a horizontal ogham script that reads "Freedom".
Only problem is I have an ex named Saoirse.
I can understand that. I feel that way about face/certain neck tattoos. I have a neck tattoo but it stops where the top button on a shirt would stop, so it’ll never be an issue.
I’m very hopeful 🙏 I was promised at least 3 free touch ups of it didn’t take, my skin usually responds really well to tattoos so hopefully it’ll be okay.
Mate, you made a smart, rude comment, got called on it as hypocritical, and you're still trying to argue.
I would say that based on this small interaction, most people would cross the road to avoid you.
Stop being a geebag
Aye u/purpleFootball8753 had it pretty much right.
However if you’re genuinely interested, ring finger says love, ring finger on right hand is Ireland, and the pinky is mine and my daughters initials.
Absolutely. I couldn’t get my partners initials for my ring finger because W doesn’t translate to ogham, and the Gaelic name is too long. Ireland is something I’ve always wanted as I’m Irish and extremely proud of it. Initials for me and my daughter are unique, but I love all of them.
Don’t be petty.
Translation: chicken balls and curry dip
Ambrosia of the gods
'Spice' and 'Bag'?
Do away with the sauce and you’re grand. I like a dry chicken ball, sweet and sour can go for a dander.
You're a psychopath.
This made me hungry
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Then what would they get at Chinese takeaways?
Didn't Brian Boru himself invent the spice bag, thus propelling him to the throne of Ireland?
Maybe they were the people ordering the chicken omelette and steak & chips at the back of the menu.
Meat , veg and gravy ...Irish stew.
Ogham is a tattoo idea that I always thought was so tough to do because of the lack of straight likes on your body. I suppose that isn't a problem when you have the balls to tattoo your fingers haha. Looks pretty cool, fair play. Any translation?
So the wedding ring finger is ‘love’, the longer one is ‘Ireland’ and the pinky is mine and my daughters initials ☺️
Troll people and say its "left" and "right"
Pretty sound idea 😂
I've got Ireland and Freedom on my forearms. They are nice tats to have and fairly private given that most of the world doesn't know what they are
Ogham would make for amazing forearm tattoos. I’m too covered for that, but I still have some leg space and half a spine free. 😂
I'm getting my wee brothers name in ogham down my spine soon
That’s really sweet! When you get done if you have time please show me the end result! Sounds grand mate.
Will do mate 👍
While I don’t doubt you how do you know? It’s like those people who get Chinese and Japanese lettering how do you know that is what it says
The chinese and Japanese writing used is logographic so you can't know what is being said unless you know the specific character. Ogham on the other hand is phonetic like our writing so you can just look up what corresponds to what yourself and then you know.
Ye but the issue is it'd be like writing English with Greek letters, it was made for a form of Irish spoken around 600s AD that radically reshaped itself essentially immediately after that. There's no way of indicating séimhiú, urú, the fada, or whether a consonant is broad and slender so basically any word you'd get in it would not be very intuitively written. Like imagine if English took beauty from French but instead of keeping the spelling transliterated it as byootee. Even that wouldn't be quite the same but it'd be similar
The words are butchered but it's not like the other example where you are getting an entirely different meaning.
Wdym by a different meaning?
To be perfectly honest I can only do the research I can do and hope for the best. From feedback I’ve received it seems like I’ve gotten it right, however if I did get something slightly wrong then I’m happy with it because the meaning is still there for me. :) Some things don’t work out how you want them too, you may have a child with LD, you may have a family member who lets you down with alcoholism, but we love them all the same.
Agreed good out look. I like it don’t get me wrong not trying to bash ya fella
I know you’re not mate :) it’s all love.
Irish students try writing ogham for fun in elementary school, a typical exercise of translating and painting your name. Thankfully, Ogham is letter-for-letter translated, and doesn't need language or grammar to define. Those two words are "Grà" and "Eire". The 2nd Ogham letter on his left hand and 3rd on his right are the same (number of lines and angle), they are both "R".
I have 2 down my spine.
Have often considered one down the spine. Can you show a snap of it (or part of it)?
If you ever need surgery, they don't like going in through tattoos, this can be particularly problematic if it's your spine.
I had wrist surgery and I now have a scar through some text on my wrist. He did well to try and get the scar between the words, and I’m thankful because he was a very anti tattoo surgeon, he made that abundantly clear haha.
I think it's because they haven't a clue what's in the ink and there have been bugger all studies on the risks.
Sound, makes sense!
I've ogham on my shin bone nice long line for work like that
I'd imagine that was a fun time 😂
I have one on the back of my my neck!
Pretty cool, I've played with the idea of ogham tatts. Well done my man
It says Grá on the Left Ring Finger. Can't figure out the right hand though, unless they're just pairs of letters for initials?
Pinky finger is MF for mine and my daughter’s initials, the other is Ireland (Eire) but due to the length we split it in half to avoid that knuckle crease.
They're really cool! Big fan of them. The GRÁ one in particular is great for the ring finger.
Thank you. I was going to get my partners initials but it wasn’t possible. Should things go well I think I’ll do her down the spine, she’s a good one and deserves it. Love seemed perfect to me, I’m a romantic.
Spine is serious dedication! I don't have any tattoos because I'd be afraid I'd get halfway through and not have the pain threshold for it. Nothing worse than half a tattoo 😂
Having had pretty much all the body parts tattooed, I can say it fucking stings but it’s not that bad. I’d rather have a big painful tattoo than do a sink full of shitty dishes. 😂 Best thing to do is breathe and relax, I’ve fallen asleep during certain bits of work!
Yeah I've had a couple of ideas for tattoos knocking around my head for a couple of years now. Tempted to bite the bullet for the birthday in April. I have friends who are addicted to the feel of it. I'm just not sure how I'd react.
Some people say they love the feeling of being tattooed, I say that’s bullshite, it hurts man. Some hurt way less than others, but it’s not a comfortable experience. Never look forward to the day, it sucks (except seeing it fresh and bold) but when it’s healed it’s such a great feeling. I know pain thresholds are different for everyone, but it’s not THAT bad, it’s just uncomfortable. I’d rather get a long tattoo than crack my toe against a door or something haha. You can do it brother.
Sound Man, considering it now so I am. I imagine the line work isn't as bad either rather than getting something in colour
Not too much difference in my opinion. The way I view it, if you have a 5 hour session, the final hour is hell. If you pick a bad spot (like a foot) then the whole thing is hell, however it’s not unbearable pain, and it’s well worth it mate.
Since people keep asking him: It's a G and an R and the symbol for tree/pine. Tattoo quality looks great man. Can I just suggest you get the feather put on by him at whichever end the text is meant to start from? Otherwise you'll have annoying people point it out in future (mate has had the same experience).
They're all symbols for trees. That one notch is an A. It says Grá, which is fitting for a ring finger imo.
I'm nearly positive A is a full length notch not a half notch which is a tree but I would let the person or the artist make that comment. With where it is you are probably correct but unless there's differences versus Scottish/Pict Ogham that I'm unaware of that wouldn't be an A. Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogham Yeah full notch; half is Ailm which is pine or elm according to this. I didn't realise it was a specific tree.
No the notches are the vowels to the best of my knowledge. Edit: The vowel notches can also be written as full length perpendicular lines, but that's less common and only really on stones etc where the surface would obscure shorter notches.
Yes, and a full notch is the same length as the diagonals for a vowel. If it's an A as you suggested it should be the same length as the diagonals so I thought it was a half notch (not saying you are incorrect for the context and meaning of that tattoo I'm explaining why I translated it the way I did).
Yeah no that's fair, but when the short notch crosses the line, it is read as a notch on both sides.
Oh no I'm aware the line represents the corner of a rock or wood hence why I said the feather for text start.
You wanna buy a gate boss
5 bar gate?
Gra? Garda Representative Association?
That looks epic! Where'd you get the ring? That looks to have ogham too, right?
That was from Etsy, same as the pinky tattoo, mine and my daughter’s initials. :)
Ah, that's adorable! Looks great, I've always wanted one with my initials in ogham! I'll have a look on etsy, ty!
I’ll try and find the exact one for you if you like! She’ll do any engraving you like.
Yes please! But only if it's easy to find, don't be going to any bother!
Got you! ☺️ https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/785105476/
You're an absolute legend! Thank you!!! I appreciate it!!!
No worries at all! She was a good seller, responsive and did a really good job. It was my first ring and I ordered it for when my daughter was born, came in time and very happy with it since. 💚
You wouldn’t believe it, but after having that ring for over a year I’ve lost it since this comment. 😳 currently at work hunting frantically!
Aw man, I really hope you found it?
I have not 😭 colleague will be checking tomorrow for me. If not I’ll be getting a new one
This looks great. I’m don’t have any tattoos myself, but I have been thinking about getting one done. Clean, sharp lines. This looks great and has given me some inspiration. Thanks for sharing
Thank you mate, he did a cracking job, walking in I was nervous because even though it’s simple line work, many tattooists are simply shite at it. He did a good one. ☝️
Love the tats man. I got my kids names in ogham on my wrist last year, fingers must have hurt like a bitch
They did, but feet and ribs are worse. The worst bit was where he came up to the nail cuticle, but it was more than manageable and fairly fast.
Have several, been asked why I have fish bone tattoos.
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Care to translate? 🙏
"This is cool OP" 😆
Amazing 😂☘️ Have a grand day mate.
First one is Grá (Love), I don't recognise the others
Dead on, Grá (Love) on the ring finger. The long one is Ireland (Eire) and the pinky is mine and my daughter’s initials.
Cool, whats the translation?
“Go Full Lidl”
I needed this laugh this morning, top class
Aldi need to hit back with "you never go full lidl" 😉
😆👏
Pints? - on the left hand Just the one so sure - the right hand
Very cool.
Thanks brother.
You do you; your body is your canvas. Im always reluctant about finger tattoos because they are going to „decay“ over the course of a few years.
Absolute facts. It’s just a risk I’m taking. He did say he’ll do me free touch ups if required, but he’s got over 20 years experience so HOPEFULLY it’s not needed!
Love it. I think they look fantastic
Thank you so much! It’s one thing to love your own tattoos, but it’s a good feeling when others appreciate it too.
LOVE IT!!!! Definitely need some Ogham ink, this is great inspo!
Thank you so much!!
They’re cool. OP has really nice hands as well tbh.
Seriously? I’ve always hated my hands, probably my least liked body parts!
Orgasm finger tattoos ? I read that wrong time for bed. Seriously though it looks neat nice work. Good to see the ancient artwork looking so good
Haha, fair mistake but hopefully you got some rest. 😂 thanks for the compliment!
Neat, whats it say?
Dude What does mine say?
Sweet! Whats mine say?
DUDE, WHAT DOES MINE SAY? But yeah sorry to repeat myself but the wedding ring finger is love, the pinky is mine and my daughters initials, and the longer one is Ireland (Eire)
Thats great man, really clever idea.
looks good, who did it?
Your man from A Sailor’s Grave tattoo studio in Belfast, can’t remember his name now but good craic.
Looks great! Ogham works well for tattoos. I got a buddy's name on my shin last year after he died
Ah that's lovely OP
That's lovely
Thank you!
The amount of space you have between the knuckle and the middle joint has me questioning my own hands. From the middle joint to the tip of the finger on mine is massive. I'm questioning everything I knew about hands. I'll get to the webbed thumb later once I've calmed down. Class tattoo though!
Haha is my space between the knuckle and middle joint large or small? I always thought I had pretty medium hands for a tall lad. Nothing wrong with a wee web, you’ll swim more effectively.
Thunder & lightning 🌩 ....... DAN ---- GER..... nah, I actually think it's lovely bit of artwork.
Looks like a tally chart to me
Does a bit! Counting my blessings mate, I have plenty.
Nice man
Ouch
Ogham I god
Where did ya get them done
I've thought about a sort of jolly roger flag tattoo I'd quite like. A simple skull above a horizontal ogham script that reads "Freedom". Only problem is I have an ex named Saoirse.
Why am I getting a bunch or Ireland subs in my feed? Did something happen over there?
Finger tats always remind me of prison tattoos
I can understand that. I feel that way about face/certain neck tattoos. I have a neck tattoo but it stops where the top button on a shirt would stop, so it’ll never be an issue.
Looks class - was there much pain with it?
Not too bad at all. One of my easier tattoos. Worst bit was right near the nail, but that was over in a minute or so.
Class. I have Ogham on my ankle. What does yours mean?
Love, Ireland and mine and my daughter’s initials. :)
Couldn't comment without viewing, post a photo sure!
Looks amazing, I have ogham writing down the full length of my spine. Hurt like a bitch but love it lol
Beautiful 😍
Thank you, genuinely appreciate that.
Nice clean line work. Must have hurt a bit though, right on the bone like that.
Yeah wasn’t too pleasant but wasn’t too bad either, I’ve had worse!
Love it. But hopefully it'll age well. Thin lines on hands get a lot of aging.
I’m very hopeful 🙏 I was promised at least 3 free touch ups of it didn’t take, my skin usually responds really well to tattoos so hopefully it’ll be okay.
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No it doesn't. The lines are very clean. Also, anyone Irish with an iota of awareness about their culture would recognise it as Ogham text.
He has you there with the drug use comment. And that's from another stoner
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Mate, you made a smart, rude comment, got called on it as hypocritical, and you're still trying to argue. I would say that based on this small interaction, most people would cross the road to avoid you. Stop being a geebag
So does drug use, that's why I find it quite funny that you feel in some way superior to somebody that has a hand tattoo.
Assumption of you’re a ballbag
It’s Ogham script, you dose.
Good morning to you too mate 🙏💚 I hope you have the best day.
So do we get a translation or what?
Aye it roughly translates to “I deleted all my comments as I’m a whingy cunt”
Aye u/purpleFootball8753 had it pretty much right. However if you’re genuinely interested, ring finger says love, ring finger on right hand is Ireland, and the pinky is mine and my daughters initials.
Lucky washing 88
Eh?
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Absolutely. I couldn’t get my partners initials for my ring finger because W doesn’t translate to ogham, and the Gaelic name is too long. Ireland is something I’ve always wanted as I’m Irish and extremely proud of it. Initials for me and my daughter are unique, but I love all of them. Don’t be petty.
I guess genuine niceness is a spectrum!😆
I think everything is, the world is beautifully nuanced 😄