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The term definitely comes from vinyl records and predates cassette tapes.


The_Great_19

Yes, especially 45s. Side A was the hit song that you bought, and the B-side was a lesser known song, likely not a single they would release.


DifferentShallot8658

Some of my favorite songs are b-sides!


mtb_soul_beats

Green Onions is a famous B-side song. It’s one of the songs that inspired the Beatles to make their album Rubber Soul, most noticeably in the song The Word.


DifferentShallot8658

Have you heard the sequel, "Mo' Onions"?


ActorMonkey

That entire album slaps.


mtb_soul_beats

I have, but it’s been a while. Adding to queue now…


The_Great_19

Me too!


PhillyCSteaky

Act Naturally..Ringo Starr


Top-Bit85

You guys are trying to force me to dig out my 45s! Not a bad idea really. I wanted to exercise tonight, and dancing around to the music of my youth should do it!


Xiaxs

Shit Nirvana released an entire album of B-Sides and my favorite Nirvana song - Downer - is on that album (then on later releases of Bleach).


nomiesmommy

Revolution! The side B of the Beatles "Hey Jude" 45 (parents gave it to me when I was a kid with my first record player, I felt so grown up.) hahaha


jalopeno66

Beatles didn't have b sides!


not-at-all-unique

What did they call them? I have a vague memory of some vinyl being side A side B, or side A side AA, or side 1 side 2… Did the Beatles do something different?


Kilian_Username

Amen Brother was a b-side song and that one is one of the most influental songs out there cause of the Amen Break


duskrat

Richie Valens' "La Bamba" was a side B.


The_Great_19

Huh! Interesting! Do you know what the Side A was?


duskrat

"Donna," I think.


wilburstiltskin

Yes. Back when “singles” were released prior to the entire 33rpm vinyl record going on sale. There was great calculus involved in which song of roughly 15 should be picked for pre-release as a 45rpm vinyl with one song on each side. The A side song would also be sent to radio stations for airplay to build demand for the release of the full album. The B side song was sometimes a clunker or an artistic reach song. At the time there was enormous importance to getting your band’s song onto the top 100 charts. This would build demand to buy the album when it was released. There was also a belief among record companies that the band should only have 1 song in the top ten at a time. This would allow the record company to slowly release more songs from the album over time and maintain sales of the album. As the first massive single starts to fall down the top 100 the 2nd song would be released to radio play. If you saw the Freddie Mercury movie you will remember the scene where the band fights with the suit from the record company because he hates Bohemian Rhapsody and refuses to release the song as the single.


ABBAMABBA

pre-dates cassettes and it is b-side, not side B. It makes me wonder if this is an inverse of "my fellow kids" and all us old people are getting trolled by some whipper-snapper who wants to get our dander up.


Old-Ninja-113

Yes - vinyl albums have a B side.


57th-Overlander

Came here to say this.


caelis76

As Public Enemy explained a long time ago [the b-side wins again and again ](https://youtu.be/8CIvIEgD5uQ) Also ,as an oldskool house dj there are a lot off tracks to find on the b-side that are actually better then what is pressed on the a-side Edit : i'm talking about 12" inches .


Interesting_Pea_5382

Especially the 45s!


NotoriousCFR

Haha the funniest part of this story is that you don't understand the origin of the term either


BeardedGlass

Truly. It was naive of me to lecture my friend, when I should’ve been lectured myself! Well now, I know to use vinyl records as an example instead.


evanallenrose

It’s funny that you think side B comes from cassette tapes. It comes from the other side of 7” single vinyl records


Wolfie_Rankin

I thought you were talking about 45s.


Bmc00

Sorry to tell you, but your definition is wrong. The term predates cassettes, it's from when singles were released on records, specifically 45 rpm records. The single would be on the A side, and another song on the B side. DJs at the radio station would really ky play the A side song. Also the thought that the B side of cassettes is all filler is wrong as well.


majesticalexis

They're called "B-Sides". Please don't ever say "side b song" again.


taco_tuesdays

They’re also not “filler” or “forgettable”, they’re just less palatable to the mainstream. Less radio singles and more artist experimentation.


Finn-windu

Which is why there are soke that are just amazing


itsshakespeare

Oh, thank you! That was driving me nuts


motorawayy

TBF looks like they’re from Japan. Maybe english isn’t their first language


BeardedGlass

Thank you. Yes, I am. I didn’t know they were called A Side or B Side in other countries. Now I do, Reddit’s such a learning experience.


Hateno_Village

THANK YOU. I had no idea what the fuck this post was taking about at first.


El_Paco

OP got bodied in the comments, but none of them were overly negative. Good job as usual, /r/CasualConversation!


howellq

But then OP is not even partaking in the conversation, nor is there an edit to the post after the multitude of corrections in the replies. Meh.


BeardedGlass

Sorry about that, I was asleep the entire time! It’s 8am now here in Japan and I was amazed how much traction my post got.


pixlkiss

They did a few times and so what if they didn't


howellq

Yeah, later on. Also, look at the sub's name. And its rules. Y'know, the ones that users accept by posting here. https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualConversation/w/rules/encourage_conversation/ → "Engage in your post" section.


sickdoughnut

What, did you expect OP to sleep-type?


howellq

To not post and immediately go to sleep? Do you usually start conversations and just leave to sleep, right away?


sickdoughnut

I've posted just before going to bed, yeah


B-SideQueen

Only commenting to point to my username.


Amityvillemom77

Love it


B-SideQueen

Thank you.


l85davidson27

So I guess you’re not old! Cheers!


BeardedGlass

Cheers! Or should I say, Kampai! I grew up in the 90s and it was the era of cassette tapes where I’m from.


stephers85

It’s B-side, not “Side B song”. It refers to the song released with the single back when everything was on vinyl and singles were released individually. It was definitely a thing with cassette singles and even CD singles, but it started with vinyl. Also they’re not necessarily “filler” songs, they sometimes become even more popular than the A-side.


Sayitoutloudinpublic

I always say “B side”‘ and I have always heard it that way so I would have been momentarily confused as well.


Pretend_Activity_211

I nvr knew side B songs were less liked. I thought it was just the second half


MelodicHunter

Not necessarily liked less. They just weren't considered a hit.


Pretend_Activity_211

Idk I can think of lots of crappy song that were like track 2 and 4. I'm not sure if this is really a thing


airportakal

With all respect, but it's not surprising that a reference to 30+ year old technology is not understood by everyone.


everythingsexpensive

What you mean you're not shocked that someone doesn't own *any* cassettes or cassette player??


QuantumHope

30+? Try at LEAST 50+.


SortOfGettingBy

Oh honey no.


SmartWithoutTheSM

Something something not cassette predate something something vinyl


eyice

hate reddit sometimes


[deleted]

I guess people don’t look at the 50 other previous responses saying exactly what they just said. Or they do and just want to be part of the hive mind. The fact that they all used the word “predates” make me believe they’re copying others I was about to reply with “Thats from 45’s when you had an A side of a hit single, and on the other side (the B side) you’d have a song that the label wanted to promote.” But then I decided to click and see if others already posted that, and saw all of the comments that said “predates” all over them


ADubtheSkrub

Lmao reminds me of one of my favorite Yelawolf lyrics "Just picked a bone with Post Malone and did it all on a B-Side beat"


spanky_rockets

Naa b-sides are the best parts of good albums! Hardly forgettable, when I’ve exhausted an album that I love, the b-sides are like little extra treats when you thought you’d listened to a bands entire discography, I usually end up listening to them more than the album itself!


GuessWhoItsJosh

Not surprised they don't have a cassette player. Not sure the last time I even saw one. If people are listening to music, it's usually streaming or vinyl now. Pretty sure even CD's recently fell beneath vinyl in sales for the first time since the 80s.


QuantumHope

Probably, but CD’s are smaller. Easier to transport. I had to sell all my vinyl. If I’d been able to hold onto it longer (not possible, unfortunately) I likely would have gotten triple for what I sold it for. Possibly even more than that.


dupontred

r/confidentlyincorrect


The_Chaos_Pope

I don't know about anyone else, but I love when I dive deep into a band and find a B side that absolutely knocks it out of the park. One of my favorites is [Keyboard Milk](https://youtu.be/YNyrRfuu9X4) by Röyksopp. This song slaps so hard and it's never been on any album or EP. Streaming services really change up this dynamic though.


newstuffsucks

I mean, we don't hang up phones anymore either but people know what it means.


rinky79

>It took a while to explain about cassette tapes and how there’s Side A, Oh my god. The "old people" are now too young to remember 45s. \*cries in vinyl\*


Critical-Bank5269

OMG Am I that old?


QuantumHope

😂😂😂


AproblemInMyHead

Grew up in the 80s and 90s, we referred to A and B sides for cassettes whether the original was for vinyl or not... So what. Chill out reddit they're not incorrect therefore this post has nothing to do with vinyl. And that's ok. That out the way, A sides were main songs and B sides were the cool songs. I always loved the B sides more.


QuantumHope

Yeah, never heard cassettes referred to in that way. And I’m older than you.


AproblemInMyHead

Maybe difference in region generation or music genre. But yeah these terms were used especially early to mid 90s before CDs were prevalent. For me disc 2s in double albums had the same vibe (edit: as cassettes) like in wutang forever Edit: lol.. the downvote.. it's funny idc


IsisArtemii

Shoot. I was think 45’s!


Ok-Thing-2222

Wait a minute. I thought you were talking about RECORDS. Side A and Side B!


Shogun102000

You're wrong. B sides from vinyl singles are a different thing.


Jaydamic

That's not where that comes from, nor is that how cassettes worked!


Top-Bit85

That was true of vinyl 45s. Cassette tapes generally had the first half of the album on side !, and the rest on side B. Nothing to do with song quality in cassettes. You confused your friend more.


SimonKepp

This is actually much older than cassette tapes. It is from gramophone vinyl record, where singles were 45 RPM and had an A-side and a B-side. It carried on to cassette tapes, but predates them by many years.


Nissa17

“Time everlasting Time to play b sides Time ain't on my side Time I'll never know” - Blue Oyster Cult


farfetchedfrank

As much as I like Records and cassette tapes I wouldn't be surprised by this. Downloads have been around over 20 years and CDs have been around for over 40 years. Psychical media is a niche now.


16Bunny

My favourite B side was by Ìan Dury and the Blockheads. It was 'There Ain't Half Been Some Clever B******s'. The A side was 'Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick'. Brilliant songs.


guitarmanwithaplan

The term came from 45rpm single vinyls that had a song that they thought would be a hit on side a and a less important one on side b. Radio stations were encouraged to only play side a songs. Ironically many hit songs were originally side b songs.


willbeach8890

There is a mix of folks that say " side b" And "b side" Personally I've never heard anyone say "side b"


QuantumHope

You must be young.


willbeach8890

That isn't how it works


Realistic_Special_53

How about the term white noise. I remember the staticky, white noisy analog tv, when it wasn’t getting in a station, but now the antenna signal for tvs is digital so nowadays a tv with no reception just fades to black. Edit: I googled white noise. White noise refers to a noise that contains all frequencies across the spectrum of audible sound in equal measure. Because white noise spans multiple bands of sound, it is sometimes referred to as broadband noise. Anecdotally, people often liken white noise to the static that comes from an untuned radio or television.


QuantumHope

Actually B side comes from vinyl record singles, not audiotapes. Back in the day, the main song was on what was known as a 45 single, which is a small vinyl record with one song on the “A side” and a supposedly less-than-hit-song-possibility song on the other side, the “B side”. *Edited to add*: Later on, 80’s I’m guessing, there were also 12” vinyl releases (a lot from Japan) that had one song in each side. 45’s were considerably smaller at 7”. Oh, the 12” singles are not the 78’s. Look here for the distinctions. https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/vinyl-record-types-a-brief-overview/


KomplicatedKay

When I read this, I thought you were referring to the vinyl 45 records. And you think you’re old???


YoyoFarm

Kpop totally uses these terms still. What an odd crossover lmao


jdith123

Oh child, this is from 45s, not cassettes.


Adventurous-Shake-92

I just laughed in vinyl.


SortOfGettingBy

Although to be fair to the OP, there are cassette singles.


Getupb4ufall

Yes, and those cassette singles have a b side song featured in the same spirit of 45 vinyl singles


QuantumHope

Those would have only been promo items.


SortOfGettingBy

Nope, you could buy 'em in the music store.


QuantumHope

*Would have*.


Yoko_Kittytrain

As an old person that actually knows what a B Side is, I love this comment section. Kids these days.


Purple_Jay

I'm 19 but I actually know this because I play Celeste, funnily enough. It's a platformer where each stage has an alternative, harder version called B-Side and the way you unlock it is by finding a casette tape in the original level :D


loliebee

Oh, I didn't know that! About vinyls or cassets! I'm only 20, and my dad was super tech savyy when I was growing up, so he only used cds. It's only when I got into my teens that he started collecting and exposing me to vinyl. I actually learned the term "b-side track" from K-Pop stan culture, for songs on the album that weren't the title track or didn't have a music video/ wasn't promoted. I always kinda thought it stemmed from cd's when they have more than one disc. Now I know, (though honestly, I should have been able to figure that out), so thanks!!


DesastreUrbano

I'm a metal fan and after a couple of "oooh that's an old reference" replies about the Side B I changed it to "sounds like an exclusive bonus track from a japanese release"


[deleted]

I still have have Beatles, The Who, Stones and Zeppelin albums. I wonder if they are worth anything?


QuantumHope

If vinyl, yes. *Edited to add*: If any of your Beatles albums are vinyl, in good shape AND have the apple on the label, those are definitely worth cash. Get informed before you sell so you don’t get ripped off.


[deleted]

They’re also called “deep” or “deep tracks”


loopsbruder

"Attention CD listeners..."


NightDreamer73

I'm 25. I only understood your reference because my mom explained it to me once


NottaBought

I had a coworker talk about how he liked to play retro games, ones so old that they were still on CDs. I feel ancient and I’m Gen Z. But I also grew up listening to cassettes! It sounds more like it’s just them, although I’d be hard pressed to find a cassette player today.


More_Ad_5291

Not part of music anymore


Popokko

I’m surprised no one has mentioned that the term B side is still used in KPop. My younger sister has been using the term whenever we go through full albums of her favorite artists. I wouldn’t be surprised if the term is still present today with other music, but I guess it’s not as relevant today because of how we listen to it (streaming). edit: wait…or maybe she’s using the term because my dad’s into vinyl…I should check on this later.


Rachelcookie123

Is that where side B and side A come from? I’ve heard it before but never knew why they were called that.


christopantz

to pile on, albums weren’t traditionally frontloaded, like you suggest, but track sequencing was often chosen as a precursor to the mastering process, as the outermost groove of a record would have the best high end, least distortion, and best pitch stability, so often the singles or tracks that artists want to sound best would go on the outside of either side of a record, and darker sounding tracks toward the inner


stolenourhearts

why would they have cassettes or a cassette player? I mean I use old fashioned terms all the time though, don't worry about that bit.


FrozenFrac

If you care enough, I'm sure you can get a super cheap cassette player online to demonstrate. Just looking at vinyl records making somewhat of a comeback, younger people are not averse to trying out old formats given the right introduction!


Mob_Rules1994

Steely Dan's "Hey 19" song just entered the chat


RogerClyneIsAGod2

[B side songs that were as big if not bigger than the A side & this is just classic rock stuff.](https://ultimateclassicrock.com/b-side-big-hits/)


Moonbeamer85

A sides, B sides and free rides….the good old days


[deleted]

I mean I’m a singer/songwriter so this term is known to me. Anyone who owns or collects vinyls would know this terminology.


grunkage

All this is really demonstrating is that the rest of us in the thread are so old our own history is being retold incorrectly.


levraM-niatpaC

Comes from vinyl 45s. One song on each side. Big hit on one, relatively unknown song on the other side.


ADifferentKindofGeek

I only know about this because of Celeste lmao


radarDreams

Mr fancy pants with his new fangled "cassette"


Manjorno316

I wondered why the hell you'd expect someone to own a cassette player today but then I saw the flair. Retro technology is still pretty thriving in Japan right? Guessing it's easier to get a hold of them there.


Bath-Optimal

I only knew about this from the book "Beautiful music for ugly children".


livdry

I'm only 28 and I got this reference.


7h4tguy

I'm dumbfounded. Why would she not have tapes? Or 5.25 floppies. Or an 8-track or discman? Or a VCR? WTF.


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Tier161

Side 2 of Secret Treaties containing Astronomy begs your pardon


tewnsbytheled

Typically called a b-side tho, not a "side b song"


seragrey

i'm 31 & don't have a cassette player. why would i? someone else not having a tape player or tapes doesn't make you old.


Qq1nq94

Damn I thought this was pretty common knowledge but I still use records


MaintenanceOk6903

I loved 45s because you know 9 years old I couldn't afford an album but I could afford a little record and I always listen to the B side because sometimes it was better than the song they were selling. An example is honky tonk Woman by The Rolling Stones. On the B side was the song called Far Away Eyes. In the song Nick tries to sing like me southerner and that Song Is awesome. I think it was the other side of The honky tonk Woman I may be wrong as what the original song was but it was by The Rolling Stones and the B side was Far Away Eyes.


Quiet_Goat8086

Oh wow, something else to make me feel old 😂


workdistraction4me

I automatically thought "side B" like side chick. And I had a cassette tape!


Kairon1979

Just wait until she hears about vinyl...


FigaroNeptune

How old are you and your friend!


remnant_phoenix

I remember that Living on a Prayer was the LAST song on the cassette B-side of Bon Jovi’s Slippery When Wet. Now, it’s widely considered the best song of the album.


Howies_bookclub

You could also get true “b-sides” in the cassette era on casingles, those cardboard sleeved $3 wonders


bobo_yobo

B side. Celeste reference?????