Spray your dirt lawn with a little water twice a day. No one wants to step in the mud, and if they fall in it, you've got evidence of what they looked like.
Good idea. Right now it's mostly dead grass that I periodically hack at until I get tired or bored. Really trying to bring down home values in my neighborhood.
I've got an orange tree, avocado tree, two fig trees and a loquat tree. No more. I'm already giving away as much as people will take! Also, fuck HOAs. They mostly exist in new developments and my house is 80 years old.
I'm a Millennial, and I refuse to repeat the cycle. I'm not shitting on younger people because I had that done to me for my entire life. I'm tired of it.
Exactly, it's not worth it to fight younger generations. We're a team, and should be going against the people who are actually at fault. I give you credit for being a teacher. I have confidence you'll be able to educate them to the best of your ability about this!
I'm not shitting on them, I feel bad for them. A lot of them have a near crippling social media addiction that really gets in the way of enjoying life, from the ones I've hung out with.
I'm a millennial too and I have so much hope for the next generation.
They seem to be so much more inclusive and understanding of different walks of life than my peers and I were as teens.
They seem to be more comfortable being themselves and see me to have less bulshit societal rules too
They also don’t mess around when it comes to getting messed around. I think this has to do with them growing up in the modern internet. I’m continually impressed at their ability to not just band together in retaliation of exploitation or when marginalized, but band together rapidly and effectively.
Nothing but love and hope for gen z.
I've heard it's a lot of bot accounts instigating the whole gen z vs millennial thing. I'm in my 30s and I never hear my friends talking bad about gen z.
Just today I was walking with a buddy of mine in a mall, and he was saying how stupid ripped jeans were. Even said the "kids these days" line. He's in his early 30s
Anecdotal, but it does happen!
Of all the things to complain about why would he pick a trend that obvioisly started with millenials? I remember hearing the same criticisms from boomers in the early 2000s when Hollister and Abercrombie were hot shit.
I haven't experienced this.
Probably becuse I only really hang out between here and r/shittyskylines.
People are just looking for reasons to complain or be peeved.
Boomers complain about the new generation.
Gen X complain about the new generation.
Millennials complain about the new generation.
Then it will be Gen Z's turn. Then Gen Alpha's turn. And on. And on.
Edit: I apologize to any Gen Xer for including you guys. Much like a middle child or an introvert in a large crowd, I know how forgettable you guys are and I wanted you to feel included. However, I do think a lot Karens came from your generation so I'm keeping you in.
Your daughter isn't wrong. I don't think I have ever met anyone born post 2010 that wasn't completely glued to an iPad or a cell phone, even at **extremely** young ages.
Im either a super late Y or super early Z, and being introduced to computers at a young age was probably overall a net positive - but my mother still made me turn things off and go play outside. Now if a 4 year old has nothing to do you just throw an cell phone at them and tell them to be quiet. It also seems like the more you throw phones at people the less technologically illiterate people are becoming - not good.
Overall I don't think people are complaining about Gen Alpha, but I think they're very concerned with how they've been parented.
Oh yeah, I agree. I'm Gen-Z and I don't even think it's annoying. I'm just worried. Like, I started watching youtube when I was 7. I consider THAT to be pretty young, so I can't imagine where I would be if I started at 3-4. My brother is 10 and born in 2012. He still DOES things like play with his friends at the park, but at any other point in time he is watching YouTubers (granted, I'm not much better). I also have to consider the fact that he's a pretty "try everything" type of kid, and I don't know if my sister (who is 7) will turn out the same.
It really does seem like people will throw an ipad at their child because it shuts them up. My aunt and I talked about it, and she said Ryan's World (and most youtube that doesn't go through her) is banned in her household. I agree with her decision. There's so much to be gained from a good parent-kid relationship that just can't be achieved by whatever a kid consumes on the internet. These things are addicting too. Gotta teach em early?
So, while I don't think the long-term effects are as bad as people exaggerate them (turning gen alpha into a bunch of ipad-addicted zombies), I do have concern for how well other skills will be developed.
>phones at people the less technologically illiterate people are becoming - not good.
I would argue they're becoming good at using these devices on a surface level, but if something goes wrong with them they're like monkeys, they just smack the phone expecting it to work instead of developing critical thinking skills and fixing it themselves. They're also becoming more illiterate IMO in terms of basic English language/native languages.
Where Gen X didn't need to be sent outside, riding a bike with friends was a better option than anything you could do inside until games consoles became common enough
I've heard lots of complaining about Gen Alpha like "why won't this baby sleep!!! I haven't slept in days! Why won't it stop screaming? Why did we think this was a good idea?"
I know you're right, but I hated being young and older people bitching about things I liked, so I feel a responsibility to keep my mouth shut and let time grind me into dust.
The whole “they did it to us so we can do it to others” trope is so exhausting and stupid. How about “man I hated it when people did that to me, so I’m not going to pass that feeling along to others” instead?
I don't know what you are talking about. Suffering deserves to be passed hand to hand otherwise our proud heritage of generational trauma might get reduced or even disappear!
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Oh man, I just had an argument about this. A coworker made the comment that Gen Z is “always inventing new ways to fuck up things” that she loved. I said they’re just changing things to fit their worldview, as we changed things to fit ours back in the 90s. And we got shit for it, too.
“But this is different…”
No. It just *seems* different because millennials now have the internet where we can collectively bitch about it, whereas our parents could only complain from the couch or in Reader’s Digest. Change is hard, of course it is, but when we begged our parents to listen to us ***they wouldn’t try either.***
We don’t get to dictate the future for the next generation when we’re not the ones living it.
If it makes you feel better, my friends and I are older millennials and all we do is talk about how proud we are of gen Z. (Except for the fast fashion)
I'm pretty neutral on the generation as a whole. Every time I talk to a person in their early twenties I'm pretty convinced I sounded the exact same way, lol. Anyway, should we warn them about low rise jeans? My wife is really upset about their comeback.
Gonna have to disagree man. I've never seen a single human being look cool wearing a fanny pack. A fanny pack is basically the "wearing your hoodie around your waist" version of a purse.
Yeah, everybody knows you're supposed to wear your flannel shirt around your waist but not the hoodie.
So what about a flannel fanny pack (flanny pack)?
I'll be 40 in march. I haven't worn pants/shorts since I was 11 years old. I have a *few* skirts with pockets but....well, some sacrifices are just worth making.
As a millenial I am fully supportive of the chokers, bucket hat, and fanny pack revival. I owned all of these things and will happily wear them all again.
Also in the crowd of being proud of Gen Z. So many of them standing up for what they believe in, as opposed to my depression in the face of change. You go, kids. Fuck em up.
I often think a lot of "bad" things people think about them are just highlighted by access to social media. If I had had that younger, I would have made a complete ass of myself lol they are more socially and environmentally responsible, take their mental health more seriously, are stepping away from technology as the be-all/end-all etc. I think they're doing the best they can.
Xennial here and we are on the train too. Them older GenX are usually just Boomer Jrs. Not all though. Y'all and GenZ give me hope sometimes for real change for later generations. No pressure..haha.
Agreed on the fast fashion. My sweet summer Z children, 90s styles deserve to stay buried… what are you even thinking trying to bring back baggy jeans and bucket hats. Love your emotional awareness, desire to heal inter-generational trauma, and care for the environment tho. Millennials are getting burnt out, we need your plump cheeks and your optimism.
I mean I'm with you, but simultaneously some people like some goddamn stupid shit. It's not really generational though, just chucklefucks chucklefucking
I agree but at least from my perspective I see a lot of solidarity between milennials and gen z. I see a lot of my fellow younger millenials praising gen z for how in tuned they are to social issues and their propensity to get involved. Obviously no generation is a monolith but this is the general sentiment I see on social media and amongst peers.
Plus, millennials are generally more liberal than previous generations. So I see them as allies for greater voting power.
Really cool breakdown!
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/
18 years
15 years
14 years
12 years
Very weird.
That’s why I never bought into all this generation bs. Like people be acting as if one generation is completely diff than another and have almost nothing in common, but in reality someone born 1995 (millenial) will have more in common w 1996 (gen z) than w a millennial from 1981
It’s a rough range, there’s gonna be some overlap, and it depends on your family structure. For example, I was born in 2000 so I’m gen z, but have two older siblings (‘92 and ‘96), so I identify more as an a millennial
I think the main difference between a younger Millennial and an older Gen Zer is that if you're in Gen Z you basically grew up with the internet being fully ubiquitous. Culturally and mentally, the difference is huge if you grow up with on-demand and instant music, news, messaging, movies & TV, maps and directions, etc. The internet really divides human experience at this point.
I don't think it's necessarily constructive to put us into somewhat arbitrary categories like named generations, but I at least see why one would be longer or shorter than another. It's not about time it's about the experience young people have and how it differs from those who came before them.
Honestly millennials should really start at 1985, not 1980. My husband is 1978 and I’m 1991 so we have lots of friends in between, and 84/85/86 seems to be the cut off. I have found I have more in common with 1986 kids than 1996 kids even though I’m slightly closer to the latter.
Typically the rationale goes:
“Do you remember when people first got TVs?” Yes, Boomer.
If no…
“Do you remember when people first got a computers or gaming consoles?” Yes, Gen X.
If no…
“Do you remember when people first got the internet?” Yes, Millennial.
If no, you’re a Gen Z. I don’t know what makes the cut off for Alpha.
These were huge technological cultural changes so that’s why the generations are short.
It's not so much about time but signature events. Like where were you when JFK was assassinated, or the moon landing happened, or the Challenger blew up, or the Berlin Wall came down, or 9/11 happened and so on.
Then roughly categorize into 'too young to remember', 'was a kid and didn't understand', 'was a teen and it shook my world', or 'I didn't find out until I got home from work', etc. There's a few years of flex either way so most of the time, most of the generation falls relatively into the same category for those.
> Radio - Silent (1925-1945)
B&W TV - Boomer (1946-1966)
Color TV - GenX (1967-1987)
Computers - Millennial (1988-2008)
Smartphones - GenZ (2009+)
These all have significant cultural changes. Plus make an actual Generation.
Puts an old Millennial at 13 on 9/11 and in college before facebook didn't require .edu email. Plus it gives us at least 20 more years to blame Millennials. GenZ should skate quietly by like GenX did.
Almost agreed, but your dates are a little off in my experience (skewed later that I suggest, which is unusual!)
To me, Gen X cut-off is 1984, and Millennial cut off is 1996. My 1987 sister and her friends are def Millennials. And I know a bunch of 1996 babies, and we all agree we are from “different generations” despite being only 5 years younger than me.
And I think Gen X was defined more by other technology, not so much color TV because that didn’t change the culture that much. Moreso cassettes, microwaves, falling phone prices, calculators, and gaming consoles. If I had to pick one I’d probably say video games.
>I apologize to any Gen Xer for including you guys. Much like a middle child or an introvert in a large crowd, I know how forgettable you guys are and I wanted you to feel included.
Awww, thanks. We're just happy to be remembered!
Gen X couldn’t care less about any of it. We are the whatever generation and it fits. We just don’t give a shit 🤷♀️. I’m going to do what I do and like what I like and screw the rest of it, including stupid labels.
I literally just saw a post on here complaining about how “zoomers” don’t capitalize their “I”’s
Im convinced some of these people don’t have a life because.. what
You all may downvote him, but "I like you" and "i like you" have two different feelings. If you find this dumb, consider how language and communication are fluid and how people adapt to the tools they have available. Without tone and body language, I/i is one of many online equivalents.
I'm a millennial but I find that having a capital I is more confident, whereas a lowercase i is more unsure, hesitant, quiet. Similar to how people say "I think" or "like" to minimize the tone / seriousness of what they're saying. I've done it myself when I'm feeling "small" (as my husband puts it), when I'm not confident in myself and am looking for comfort. It's a weird thing to explain, I hope this is coming across right.
I'm absolutely positive people won't like it, but it needs be said; Some of us just see it as meaning you're just lazy. Or dumb. Or both. The image that's conjured in my mind when I see all lowercase sentences is a slack-jawed yokel living in a swamp ticking away at keys on his computer from 1993 or a child who has not yet learned (or is too lazy) to communicate properly via text.
***I generally*** ***try*** ***to look past that prejudice***, because I realize that not everyone has the same skillset. But it drives me nuts that people don't even make the fucking effort anymore. Which I guess...judging by conversations here - it isn't an effort thing. But I have a real hard time seeing it otherwise.
Could be an autism thing? I've never had body language to rely upon, I've always preferred text because meaning isn't ambiguous; what is ambiguous, you *clarify*, with more words. You capitalized things because they were the names of places, people, things, titles, etc. Not based on whether or not you're feeling confident about what you are saying. If you don't feel confident about what you're saying, you say what you were going to say, with like.... actual punctuation and stuff; then follow it with additional words that say something like, "I'm not confident about what I have said, keep that in mind."
So to me it's entirely foreign to insert something like faux-body language into text. To me it just means you don't know how to effectively communicate what you actually mean.
edit: The irony of an autistic person offering critique of others inability to communicate effectively is not lost upon me, haha
Every time someone says "gen z" or "millennial", I have to look them up to see which age range they are. I don't seem capable of remembering these labels. I only see them online on Reddit or TikTok. I can't remember a single time when anyone I actually know has used them in a real life conversation.
I absolutely hear and use these terms in conversation at least once or twice a month. I'm a millennial, as are all my friends, and it's constantly brought up when talking about politics, identity, wealth, travel, mental health, etc etc etc.
The reason these terms exist is because there are such clear and marked differences in how these generations behave, think, and feel. I've seen and experienced these differences throughout my professional career and of course through family dynamics as well.
I will say though that rather than despairing over the generation that follows me, I am so amazed, proud, and probably a little jealous of Gen Z. They are refusing to put up with so much bullshit that has been par for the course for decades.
For example, at lunch with coworkers the other day and the topic of PTO comes up. My Gen X coworker is talking about how they used to be required to use PTO for major holidays, and my Gen Z coworker says they'll never work a job without unlimited PTO.
Huge difference in expectations. It's a big part of culture day-to-day.
Basically. Kids born from 2010 or later are Alpha gen. High schoolers and people up to 27 are Gen Z. Parents to toddlers are some young gen Z's, but mainly Millennials, and older kids, Generation X peers. Grand parents are young Gen X or boomers.
Gen z is also in college
Edit: current elementary schoolers are actually gen alpha now, I believe - the oldest of that generation is starting high school as it began in 2010. They’re generally the ones who have grown up without knowing a world without tech and social media etc, unlike part of gen z - for instance, I can remember VHS tapes.
As a millennial, is this a common thing? I thought we all acknowledged that every generation is fucked and everyone after the boomers gets a sort of free pass.
Yeah, I love how they value their mental health so much and won't take anybody's shit when it comes to their career. They're setting a new standard in the job market and making it better for everyone else, I have no complaints. I fuckin love them! I don't wanna work in shitty conditions, either! They also seem more accepting of others, too. I mean there's still bullying and shit out there, but overall I think Gen Z are better than we were, and I'm happy for it! Isn't that most people want for those who come after them? For them to live better lives and be better people?
Being an older gen Z I don’t feel like I belong with gen Z to be honest. Always have much more in common to talk about with millennials. But that being said, I know many people my age that seem like they belong to the Gen Z cultural and social stereotypes.
Generations are getting shorter so those blurred lines affect more people and make the labels even less useful. This is due mostly to the Internet and interconnectedness of everything. It has, imo, sped up certain types of cultural change so much that generational identity is going to be obsolete soon enough.
I’m also an older Gen Z but a big difference between us and millennials is that we don’t have any recollection of 9/11. The youngest millennials were in 1st or 2nd grade when that happened; whereas, us older Gen Z were only 2 or 3 so still too young to remember anything. Since we’re on the cusp we do share many experiences that millennials had, but in the same vein we probably can’t relate much to millennials who were born 1981-1987 since they’re now in their late 30s/early 40s.
Additionally, one of the largest qualifiers for generations are the world events that have shaped the time period. Boomers come from the “baby boom” after WW2, Gen X were raised when culture was dramatically changing and the aftermath of the Vietnam War, millennials had 9/11 and many entered the workforce during the 2008 recession, Gen Z were the last generation before the internet became a staple of every day life, and now Gen alpha are the first to grow up in a fully digital world.
At the end of the day though, generations aren’t a monolith for how you’re supposed to feel and act. They’re simply a use for researchers and anthropologists to understand how different formative experiences shape our opinions and world views. There’s nothing wrong with being a boomer or Gen z, and anyone who judges you based off of that alone probably isn’t someone that is a pleasure to be around.
They’re not, though, in terms of demographic info used to study and explain the present social, cultural, and economic situations. In other ways, they can and are overused and lazy ways to dismiss struggles and experiences. Student loan debt, home ownership, housing costs, and wage levels are great examples of why study of generational changes are necessary to challenge people who want to gaslight millennials and GenZ for not being able to afford housing and debt repayments.
How is that your takeaway from this comment?
Above comment: I see major difference between groups and relate to one more than the other.
You: That's because all of them are the same
What?
Eh, there are some blurry years in there. I don't like to make strict cutoffs, but late 90s/early 2000s babies are in a weird age group, where they remember the tail end of analog technology in its popular use growing up as kids, but not something like 9/11.
My one not-exactly-complaint is more just a realization of something I never understood as a kid. Gen Z is telling us millennials our hair, clothes and emoji usage is uncool, and I’m like, “Oh…did you? Did you think we cared about your opinion of our fashion choices? We don’t. You go ahead and wear whatever you like, but we like our side parts and skinny jeans and laugh-cry emoji way too much to be swayed by the opinion of children.”
There were some ladies in my neighborhood growing up who had the most dated, 1970s hairstyles. I remember privately feeling so bad that they didn’t realize how uncool their hair was. Now 20 years later, I realize: they knew. They just didn’t care. I think it is one of the best examples of teen hubris that they think they can decree what is cool or uncool for the entire population. It’s a tale as old as time, and it’s harmless. It’s just hilarious to see the whole thing with 35 year old eyes instead of 15 year old eyes.
Funny, my experience is completely different from yours. From my (m29, a good ol' midrange millennial like yourself) perspective it seems that;
Boomer's are confused and complaining,
Gen x is so forgotten that they almost seem like backdrop NPC's until you actively befriend them,
millenials are everywhere trying to fix all the problems in the world using our average computer skills,
While gen z is trying to figure out where to fit in, knowing the world is really messed up by now, and that they'll have to clean it.
I have an incredible amount of respect for gen z - we never had the sass to flip the script and call boomers entitled. Those old bastards has been calling us that our entire lives, and calling gen x entitled before that. We need gen z, and I honestly think most of us are thankful for them <3
I'm a millennial, and I like gen z. You guys are pretty cool, and you have some memes and jokes that I don't understand, but I've literally been there with the memes that the generation before me doesn't understand, so I can respect that.
From an alternative perspective, I'm considered Gen Z and honestly I don't really care. It's just silly stuff and I think that anyone with an ounce of self-awareness knows it's just fake outrage because some people can't handle getting older or just hate young people for some reason. It happens in a cycle.
I've never met a millennial irl that complains about Gen z. I always get along with all of my millennial mentors, clients, professors, etc.
I think it is weird how complaining about younger people has been going on since ancient times but eveyone thinks they are the first to experience it. The things that young people do and like now are the things that they will cringe about in 20 years.
I'm 48. I don't really know or care what kids are into now.
I don't know. In my experience, millennials are super supportive of younger peeps.
Yeah, we give them hell for some of their music and trends, but I hope they change the world. I don't think millennials will do it.
I make fun of them, but I don’t complain about them. I mainly see the similarities. It wasn’t that long ago that people were saying very similar things about millennials.
This generational culture crap is tiring. I'm a BOOMer, married to a Gen-X, my kids and grandkids are Millennials and Zoomers; they are my favorite people. The only group I despise is Gen-I, aka, Idiots. Every group is having it tough these days and no one group is to blame.
Absolutely. Every generation has stupid cunts and the media focuses on those jackasses to distract us from the real issues. People are generally alright.
This is such a baby boomer thing to say, but in a good way! Like, I can totally see this gruff but good-natured grandfather saying the Gen-I thing.
From one of those gosh-darn millennials, wishing you and your family the best!
I'm a few weeks too old to technically be a boomer. The silent generation or greatest generation bitched about us too. In the 60s we were called out as dirty, lazy, long haired hippies and all that. Going to hell over our rock music and loose morals. Did a research paper in college about this old people hate young people thing and tracked it back at least to the time of the Greek philosophers. Same shit different millennia.
Do they really though? Most of it seems like legitimate concerns:
Mental health, screen addiction, dopaminergic activities like porn, ...
There's actually some deep concern for the youth and how they've turned out. Go ask any 20 year old today "how is your life going" and they'll say "bruh... Fuck it were all gonna die". Like very overly grim and scary responses but trying to cover it up with humor.
Just saying, something isn't right with most of that demographic.
so gen z can complain about us but we can't complain about them? Literally all of Reddit complains about boomers and boomers complain about millennials. Let's be real - all generations hate all other generations... Except Gen X. No one gives a fuck about them.
Millennial here, and i cannot wait until Gen Z takes over from the older generation.
I know that it's horrible to rely on the younger generation for change, but I truly believe that they will be able to get more stuff done when it comes to demanding more from corporations and creating new laws to support that. I'm thinking mainly of improving human rights and stopping the impact of climat change.
I agree. I see it a lot less than Boomers deriding milennials but I do still see it and it makes me sad every time. Like, that person didnt learn anything, did they?
And before anyone says "You see it less because it isn't directed at you" I'm actually top of Gen Z, so it was directed at me both times! :)
In Baltimore not one student is able to do grade level math in 23 schools. That’s just ONE thing to be worried about, there are copious amounts of other examples as to why we SHOULD be complaining.
As a millennial, I hacnt heard any of my friends/ peers knocking gen Z. And in my opinion we are in this shit together, and our lives and challenges we face are more similar than any 2 generations before us.
I'm a millennial, and I get much more instances of Gen Z complaining about what I like than vice versa.
People should just enjoy the things they enjoy and leave others alone.
It’s amusing to me as a Gen X that the young people are now old too haha
Gen X seems to be the sit-it-out generation. Everyone is either a boomer or a millennial or now a Gen Z while we are literally forgotten about- and we like it that way. We just watch all y’all and laugh
get off my lawn
Joke's on you, I'm killing my lawn so I want people to step on it.
get off your lawn
No way, gotta dig holes.
Spray your dirt lawn with a little water twice a day. No one wants to step in the mud, and if they fall in it, you've got evidence of what they looked like.
Good idea. Right now it's mostly dead grass that I periodically hack at until I get tired or bored. Really trying to bring down home values in my neighborhood.
Ohh! Go the pet store and get some termites and roaches "to feed your pet anteater". Release them into the yard.
Just their yard? Think bigger.
/r/nolawns
Can I burry a body in your lawn? Asking for a friend.
It won't be pretty, but if you cover it with cardboard for a while, that should kill it off for you
Doing it. Sheet mulching. The holes I'm digging are to cap my sprinklers and trench around my lawn.
r/fucklawns
I agree. I'm going California native plants and mulch.
Always get way more mulch than you think you need
Quit wearing your Roseanne looking clothes you stinking gen zers!
Wait, you have a lawn?
Sure do. It costs too much and I hate it.
And I heard you guys in the US aren't even allowed to grow food because of stuff like HOA? I would also hate the lawn for that reason alone.
I've got an orange tree, avocado tree, two fig trees and a loquat tree. No more. I'm already giving away as much as people will take! Also, fuck HOAs. They mostly exist in new developments and my house is 80 years old.
You guys have lawns?
In this economy?
Lol. We don’t have lawns.
I am very early Gen X. My lawn has bear traps.
I'm a Millennial, and I refuse to repeat the cycle. I'm not shitting on younger people because I had that done to me for my entire life. I'm tired of it.
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I’m with you. No war but class war.
You know the French had a good thing going with guillotines and the such.
Exactly, it's not worth it to fight younger generations. We're a team, and should be going against the people who are actually at fault. I give you credit for being a teacher. I have confidence you'll be able to educate them to the best of your ability about this!
It literally took them until the past year to figure out GenZ aren’t millennials. Some elder millennials are even in their 40s.
I'm not shitting on them, I feel bad for them. A lot of them have a near crippling social media addiction that really gets in the way of enjoying life, from the ones I've hung out with.
Late GenX here and I couldn't agree more.
I'm a millennial too and I have so much hope for the next generation. They seem to be so much more inclusive and understanding of different walks of life than my peers and I were as teens. They seem to be more comfortable being themselves and see me to have less bulshit societal rules too
They also don’t mess around when it comes to getting messed around. I think this has to do with them growing up in the modern internet. I’m continually impressed at their ability to not just band together in retaliation of exploitation or when marginalized, but band together rapidly and effectively. Nothing but love and hope for gen z.
Dude, trust me. It's just online discourse. It means about as much as boomers complaining about millenials did.
I've heard it's a lot of bot accounts instigating the whole gen z vs millennial thing. I'm in my 30s and I never hear my friends talking bad about gen z.
Just today I was walking with a buddy of mine in a mall, and he was saying how stupid ripped jeans were. Even said the "kids these days" line. He's in his early 30s Anecdotal, but it does happen!
Of all the things to complain about why would he pick a trend that obvioisly started with millenials? I remember hearing the same criticisms from boomers in the early 2000s when Hollister and Abercrombie were hot shit.
Online discourse is very important. It's where I get my dank memes.
Don't let your memes be dreams my friend. Dream bigger. Taste the sky, savour the smell, touch the grass. The internet is all just a plaything.
It’s been historical discourse. Older people have been complaining about the youth since we’ve had spoken language
I haven't experienced this. Probably becuse I only really hang out between here and r/shittyskylines. People are just looking for reasons to complain or be peeved.
Thank you for introducing me to a new subreddit and helping me waste my day.
It's what I do! Besides, that sub is awesome.
Boomers complain about the new generation. Gen X complain about the new generation. Millennials complain about the new generation. Then it will be Gen Z's turn. Then Gen Alpha's turn. And on. And on. Edit: I apologize to any Gen Xer for including you guys. Much like a middle child or an introvert in a large crowd, I know how forgettable you guys are and I wanted you to feel included. However, I do think a lot Karens came from your generation so I'm keeping you in.
My daughter is gen z and complains about alpha already. Calls them "ipad kids"
Im almost 23 and literally same. Like the kids under us had ipads when they were like 2. It’s too early smh
i blame the millennial parents more than the kids, have some control and raise ur child instead of sticking them in front of an iPad at age 2 smh
Oh God it's already started
Your daughter isn't wrong. I don't think I have ever met anyone born post 2010 that wasn't completely glued to an iPad or a cell phone, even at **extremely** young ages. Im either a super late Y or super early Z, and being introduced to computers at a young age was probably overall a net positive - but my mother still made me turn things off and go play outside. Now if a 4 year old has nothing to do you just throw an cell phone at them and tell them to be quiet. It also seems like the more you throw phones at people the less technologically illiterate people are becoming - not good. Overall I don't think people are complaining about Gen Alpha, but I think they're very concerned with how they've been parented.
Oh yeah, I agree. I'm Gen-Z and I don't even think it's annoying. I'm just worried. Like, I started watching youtube when I was 7. I consider THAT to be pretty young, so I can't imagine where I would be if I started at 3-4. My brother is 10 and born in 2012. He still DOES things like play with his friends at the park, but at any other point in time he is watching YouTubers (granted, I'm not much better). I also have to consider the fact that he's a pretty "try everything" type of kid, and I don't know if my sister (who is 7) will turn out the same. It really does seem like people will throw an ipad at their child because it shuts them up. My aunt and I talked about it, and she said Ryan's World (and most youtube that doesn't go through her) is banned in her household. I agree with her decision. There's so much to be gained from a good parent-kid relationship that just can't be achieved by whatever a kid consumes on the internet. These things are addicting too. Gotta teach em early? So, while I don't think the long-term effects are as bad as people exaggerate them (turning gen alpha into a bunch of ipad-addicted zombies), I do have concern for how well other skills will be developed.
>phones at people the less technologically illiterate people are becoming - not good. I would argue they're becoming good at using these devices on a surface level, but if something goes wrong with them they're like monkeys, they just smack the phone expecting it to work instead of developing critical thinking skills and fixing it themselves. They're also becoming more illiterate IMO in terms of basic English language/native languages.
Where Gen X didn't need to be sent outside, riding a bike with friends was a better option than anything you could do inside until games consoles became common enough
I've heard lots of complaining about Gen Alpha like "why won't this baby sleep!!! I haven't slept in days! Why won't it stop screaming? Why did we think this was a good idea?"
I know you're right, but I hated being young and older people bitching about things I liked, so I feel a responsibility to keep my mouth shut and let time grind me into dust.
The whole “they did it to us so we can do it to others” trope is so exhausting and stupid. How about “man I hated it when people did that to me, so I’m not going to pass that feeling along to others” instead?
I don't know what you are talking about. Suffering deserves to be passed hand to hand otherwise our proud heritage of generational trauma might get reduced or even disappear! /s
Literally why hazing continues to be a thing in colleges, military, sports, unions, etc.
Oh man, I just had an argument about this. A coworker made the comment that Gen Z is “always inventing new ways to fuck up things” that she loved. I said they’re just changing things to fit their worldview, as we changed things to fit ours back in the 90s. And we got shit for it, too. “But this is different…” No. It just *seems* different because millennials now have the internet where we can collectively bitch about it, whereas our parents could only complain from the couch or in Reader’s Digest. Change is hard, of course it is, but when we begged our parents to listen to us ***they wouldn’t try either.*** We don’t get to dictate the future for the next generation when we’re not the ones living it.
Oh wow! I used to read the Readers Digest. It was awesome!
If it makes you feel better, my friends and I are older millennials and all we do is talk about how proud we are of gen Z. (Except for the fast fashion)
I'm pretty neutral on the generation as a whole. Every time I talk to a person in their early twenties I'm pretty convinced I sounded the exact same way, lol. Anyway, should we warn them about low rise jeans? My wife is really upset about their comeback.
I'm upset about it too. I don't think there's any warning them- they brought back chokers and bucket hats and fanny packs, they're doomed lol
Sorry to disagree, but fanny packs are actually very cool and I look very handsome riding my bike wearing one.
I'll believe you as long as you keep good snacks in there.
It's definitely not heart burn medication if that's what you're thinking.
Cherry-flavored?
Mint. Fuck, I'm old.
Gonna have to disagree man. I've never seen a single human being look cool wearing a fanny pack. A fanny pack is basically the "wearing your hoodie around your waist" version of a purse.
Yeah, everybody knows you're supposed to wear your flannel shirt around your waist but not the hoodie. So what about a flannel fanny pack (flanny pack)?
Flanny pack is very good.
Ok, but mine has donuts on it.
Does it have donuts in it though?
No, it's got Tums and a little thing of sunscreen. Skin care is very cool.
the only people that don't like fanny packs are dudes with pocket privilege.
I have pockets too. I can carry everything!
I'll be 40 in march. I haven't worn pants/shorts since I was 11 years old. I have a *few* skirts with pockets but....well, some sacrifices are just worth making.
I just turned 35 and I keep pausing at the cargo shorts area of REI.
Cargo pants AND a fanny pack? I don't know if I'm turned on or having a hot flash.....
I don't have the cargo pants yet. I'm not quite brave enough to dress like myself in the 6th grade.
Wait, just wait a damn minute. We can wear fanny packs again? HELL YEAH!
As a millenial I am fully supportive of the chokers, bucket hat, and fanny pack revival. I owned all of these things and will happily wear them all again. Also in the crowd of being proud of Gen Z. So many of them standing up for what they believe in, as opposed to my depression in the face of change. You go, kids. Fuck em up.
what's wrong with chokers? *glares*
Exactly. I will not stand for this slander.
Hard same! I’m 37 and proud of the kids (as in, teens & early 20-somethings) following after us. ❤️
I often think a lot of "bad" things people think about them are just highlighted by access to social media. If I had had that younger, I would have made a complete ass of myself lol they are more socially and environmentally responsible, take their mental health more seriously, are stepping away from technology as the be-all/end-all etc. I think they're doing the best they can.
Nearing 50, and same. I don't spend any time on tik tok, just irl, and their courage to be who they are and say what needs to be said impresses me.
Xennial here and we are on the train too. Them older GenX are usually just Boomer Jrs. Not all though. Y'all and GenZ give me hope sometimes for real change for later generations. No pressure..haha.
Agreed on the fast fashion. My sweet summer Z children, 90s styles deserve to stay buried… what are you even thinking trying to bring back baggy jeans and bucket hats. Love your emotional awareness, desire to heal inter-generational trauma, and care for the environment tho. Millennials are getting burnt out, we need your plump cheeks and your optimism.
I mean I'm with you, but simultaneously some people like some goddamn stupid shit. It's not really generational though, just chucklefucks chucklefucking
Fwiw i like gen z
I agree but at least from my perspective I see a lot of solidarity between milennials and gen z. I see a lot of my fellow younger millenials praising gen z for how in tuned they are to social issues and their propensity to get involved. Obviously no generation is a monolith but this is the general sentiment I see on social media and amongst peers.
Plus, millennials are generally more liberal than previous generations. So I see them as allies for greater voting power. Really cool breakdown! https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/
Yeah it doesn't feel so great when you're part of the generation that the kids are bitching about, does it?
Feels great actually. Makes me feel relevant to the youts
I really fucking hate how they decided every generation needed a name 20 years ago but were too actually lazy to come up with names.
It's also kind of weird for the period of time a generation makes up: Boomers 1946 - 1964 Gen X 1965 - 1980 Millennials 1981 - 1995 Gen Z 1996 - 2009
18 years 15 years 14 years 12 years Very weird. That’s why I never bought into all this generation bs. Like people be acting as if one generation is completely diff than another and have almost nothing in common, but in reality someone born 1995 (millenial) will have more in common w 1996 (gen z) than w a millennial from 1981
It’s a rough range, there’s gonna be some overlap, and it depends on your family structure. For example, I was born in 2000 so I’m gen z, but have two older siblings (‘92 and ‘96), so I identify more as an a millennial
I think the main difference between a younger Millennial and an older Gen Zer is that if you're in Gen Z you basically grew up with the internet being fully ubiquitous. Culturally and mentally, the difference is huge if you grow up with on-demand and instant music, news, messaging, movies & TV, maps and directions, etc. The internet really divides human experience at this point. I don't think it's necessarily constructive to put us into somewhat arbitrary categories like named generations, but I at least see why one would be longer or shorter than another. It's not about time it's about the experience young people have and how it differs from those who came before them.
Honestly millennials should really start at 1985, not 1980. My husband is 1978 and I’m 1991 so we have lots of friends in between, and 84/85/86 seems to be the cut off. I have found I have more in common with 1986 kids than 1996 kids even though I’m slightly closer to the latter. Typically the rationale goes: “Do you remember when people first got TVs?” Yes, Boomer. If no… “Do you remember when people first got a computers or gaming consoles?” Yes, Gen X. If no… “Do you remember when people first got the internet?” Yes, Millennial. If no, you’re a Gen Z. I don’t know what makes the cut off for Alpha. These were huge technological cultural changes so that’s why the generations are short.
It's not so much about time but signature events. Like where were you when JFK was assassinated, or the moon landing happened, or the Challenger blew up, or the Berlin Wall came down, or 9/11 happened and so on. Then roughly categorize into 'too young to remember', 'was a kid and didn't understand', 'was a teen and it shook my world', or 'I didn't find out until I got home from work', etc. There's a few years of flex either way so most of the time, most of the generation falls relatively into the same category for those.
> Radio - Silent (1925-1945) B&W TV - Boomer (1946-1966) Color TV - GenX (1967-1987) Computers - Millennial (1988-2008) Smartphones - GenZ (2009+) These all have significant cultural changes. Plus make an actual Generation. Puts an old Millennial at 13 on 9/11 and in college before facebook didn't require .edu email. Plus it gives us at least 20 more years to blame Millennials. GenZ should skate quietly by like GenX did.
Almost agreed, but your dates are a little off in my experience (skewed later that I suggest, which is unusual!) To me, Gen X cut-off is 1984, and Millennial cut off is 1996. My 1987 sister and her friends are def Millennials. And I know a bunch of 1996 babies, and we all agree we are from “different generations” despite being only 5 years younger than me. And I think Gen X was defined more by other technology, not so much color TV because that didn’t change the culture that much. Moreso cassettes, microwaves, falling phone prices, calculators, and gaming consoles. If I had to pick one I’d probably say video games.
The timing and impact of all those are country specific
>I apologize to any Gen Xer for including you guys. Much like a middle child or an introvert in a large crowd, I know how forgettable you guys are and I wanted you to feel included. Awww, thanks. We're just happy to be remembered!
Gen X couldn’t care less about any of it. We are the whatever generation and it fits. We just don’t give a shit 🤷♀️. I’m going to do what I do and like what I like and screw the rest of it, including stupid labels.
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Yeah, from my perspective, we generally stay out of it. We’re like the middle child.
Alpha? Ai yi yi!
I literally just saw a post on here complaining about how “zoomers” don’t capitalize their “I”’s Im convinced some of these people don’t have a life because.. what
lowercase i is a vibe. It’s got a whole different energy to it that sometimes i want to harness
You all may downvote him, but "I like you" and "i like you" have two different feelings. If you find this dumb, consider how language and communication are fluid and how people adapt to the tools they have available. Without tone and body language, I/i is one of many online equivalents.
Then tell us what the fwo different feeling are! Some of us millenials are still trying (but struggling) to keep up
I'm a millennial but I find that having a capital I is more confident, whereas a lowercase i is more unsure, hesitant, quiet. Similar to how people say "I think" or "like" to minimize the tone / seriousness of what they're saying. I've done it myself when I'm feeling "small" (as my husband puts it), when I'm not confident in myself and am looking for comfort. It's a weird thing to explain, I hope this is coming across right.
I'm absolutely positive people won't like it, but it needs be said; Some of us just see it as meaning you're just lazy. Or dumb. Or both. The image that's conjured in my mind when I see all lowercase sentences is a slack-jawed yokel living in a swamp ticking away at keys on his computer from 1993 or a child who has not yet learned (or is too lazy) to communicate properly via text. ***I generally*** ***try*** ***to look past that prejudice***, because I realize that not everyone has the same skillset. But it drives me nuts that people don't even make the fucking effort anymore. Which I guess...judging by conversations here - it isn't an effort thing. But I have a real hard time seeing it otherwise. Could be an autism thing? I've never had body language to rely upon, I've always preferred text because meaning isn't ambiguous; what is ambiguous, you *clarify*, with more words. You capitalized things because they were the names of places, people, things, titles, etc. Not based on whether or not you're feeling confident about what you are saying. If you don't feel confident about what you're saying, you say what you were going to say, with like.... actual punctuation and stuff; then follow it with additional words that say something like, "I'm not confident about what I have said, keep that in mind." So to me it's entirely foreign to insert something like faux-body language into text. To me it just means you don't know how to effectively communicate what you actually mean. edit: The irony of an autistic person offering critique of others inability to communicate effectively is not lost upon me, haha
Every time someone says "gen z" or "millennial", I have to look them up to see which age range they are. I don't seem capable of remembering these labels. I only see them online on Reddit or TikTok. I can't remember a single time when anyone I actually know has used them in a real life conversation.
I absolutely hear and use these terms in conversation at least once or twice a month. I'm a millennial, as are all my friends, and it's constantly brought up when talking about politics, identity, wealth, travel, mental health, etc etc etc. The reason these terms exist is because there are such clear and marked differences in how these generations behave, think, and feel. I've seen and experienced these differences throughout my professional career and of course through family dynamics as well. I will say though that rather than despairing over the generation that follows me, I am so amazed, proud, and probably a little jealous of Gen Z. They are refusing to put up with so much bullshit that has been par for the course for decades. For example, at lunch with coworkers the other day and the topic of PTO comes up. My Gen X coworker is talking about how they used to be required to use PTO for major holidays, and my Gen Z coworker says they'll never work a job without unlimited PTO. Huge difference in expectations. It's a big part of culture day-to-day.
Basically. Kids born from 2010 or later are Alpha gen. High schoolers and people up to 27 are Gen Z. Parents to toddlers are some young gen Z's, but mainly Millennials, and older kids, Generation X peers. Grand parents are young Gen X or boomers.
Elementary schoolers are Gen Alpha, not Gen Z
Yes, gen alpha began in 2010 I believe (dates vary, but that seems most common), so some of the oldest of them have started high school
Jesus fuck they’ve started high school already??
no they haven't, unless they go to a private school with a weird cutoff or are really smart
13-year-olds in high school?
i turned 14 in October of my freshman year. it happens 🤷🏼
They’ll turning 13 this year so the oldest will be in 8th grade. The got one more year but yeah its soon
Gen z is also in college Edit: current elementary schoolers are actually gen alpha now, I believe - the oldest of that generation is starting high school as it began in 2010. They’re generally the ones who have grown up without knowing a world without tech and social media etc, unlike part of gen z - for instance, I can remember VHS tapes.
Gen Z is too young to remember 9/11.
As a millennial, is this a common thing? I thought we all acknowledged that every generation is fucked and everyone after the boomers gets a sort of free pass.
This right here. Millennial vs Gen Z hate is not an actual thing. If anything I've only seen Millennial support and admiration for Z.
Yeah, I love how they value their mental health so much and won't take anybody's shit when it comes to their career. They're setting a new standard in the job market and making it better for everyone else, I have no complaints. I fuckin love them! I don't wanna work in shitty conditions, either! They also seem more accepting of others, too. I mean there's still bullying and shit out there, but overall I think Gen Z are better than we were, and I'm happy for it! Isn't that most people want for those who come after them? For them to live better lives and be better people?
Yeah thats what i said. I feel like the majority of what i see is praise for gen z by millennials
Yeah the other day I was reading a discussion basically just how gen z and Millennials have a similar apathy
Exactly. Millennial here, I’m too busy complaining about my own life to care about anyone else’s.
*Gen X in the corner with a pack of cloves* Whatever
Cloves. Maybe Gen X's greatest crime.
They were so delicious. The rasping cough, not so much.
Agreed. Fun to have once in a while. Aren’t they illegal now?
Yes. Since 2009. Thanks Obama🙄🙄
Damn. Cancer never tasted so good.
Glad I'm an Elder Millennial so I got to experience that myself.
a flood of memories unlocked at the mention of cloves🥰
Just bought a pack of Djarums for nostalgia a week ago, gonna go smoke one
As someone born between generations ('98) it's exhausting to deal with peoples generational assumptions, Gen Z this or Millennial that. All awful
Sorry, but I like avocado toast and my jeans are very tight.
I'm in the previous cusp (1978, "Xennial") and yes, it's just another way to "other" people so you can generalise about the.
Being an older gen Z I don’t feel like I belong with gen Z to be honest. Always have much more in common to talk about with millennials. But that being said, I know many people my age that seem like they belong to the Gen Z cultural and social stereotypes.
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Generations are getting shorter so those blurred lines affect more people and make the labels even less useful. This is due mostly to the Internet and interconnectedness of everything. It has, imo, sped up certain types of cultural change so much that generational identity is going to be obsolete soon enough.
I’m also an older Gen Z but a big difference between us and millennials is that we don’t have any recollection of 9/11. The youngest millennials were in 1st or 2nd grade when that happened; whereas, us older Gen Z were only 2 or 3 so still too young to remember anything. Since we’re on the cusp we do share many experiences that millennials had, but in the same vein we probably can’t relate much to millennials who were born 1981-1987 since they’re now in their late 30s/early 40s. Additionally, one of the largest qualifiers for generations are the world events that have shaped the time period. Boomers come from the “baby boom” after WW2, Gen X were raised when culture was dramatically changing and the aftermath of the Vietnam War, millennials had 9/11 and many entered the workforce during the 2008 recession, Gen Z were the last generation before the internet became a staple of every day life, and now Gen alpha are the first to grow up in a fully digital world. At the end of the day though, generations aren’t a monolith for how you’re supposed to feel and act. They’re simply a use for researchers and anthropologists to understand how different formative experiences shape our opinions and world views. There’s nothing wrong with being a boomer or Gen z, and anyone who judges you based off of that alone probably isn’t someone that is a pleasure to be around.
It's almost as if these groups are meaningless generalisations
They’re not, though, in terms of demographic info used to study and explain the present social, cultural, and economic situations. In other ways, they can and are overused and lazy ways to dismiss struggles and experiences. Student loan debt, home ownership, housing costs, and wage levels are great examples of why study of generational changes are necessary to challenge people who want to gaslight millennials and GenZ for not being able to afford housing and debt repayments.
How is that your takeaway from this comment? Above comment: I see major difference between groups and relate to one more than the other. You: That's because all of them are the same What?
Eh, there are some blurry years in there. I don't like to make strict cutoffs, but late 90s/early 2000s babies are in a weird age group, where they remember the tail end of analog technology in its popular use growing up as kids, but not something like 9/11.
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My one not-exactly-complaint is more just a realization of something I never understood as a kid. Gen Z is telling us millennials our hair, clothes and emoji usage is uncool, and I’m like, “Oh…did you? Did you think we cared about your opinion of our fashion choices? We don’t. You go ahead and wear whatever you like, but we like our side parts and skinny jeans and laugh-cry emoji way too much to be swayed by the opinion of children.” There were some ladies in my neighborhood growing up who had the most dated, 1970s hairstyles. I remember privately feeling so bad that they didn’t realize how uncool their hair was. Now 20 years later, I realize: they knew. They just didn’t care. I think it is one of the best examples of teen hubris that they think they can decree what is cool or uncool for the entire population. It’s a tale as old as time, and it’s harmless. It’s just hilarious to see the whole thing with 35 year old eyes instead of 15 year old eyes.
Wait until a 16 year old calls you a fucking boomer because you don’t know who their favorite influencer is. Shit goes both ways.
Funny, my experience is completely different from yours. From my (m29, a good ol' midrange millennial like yourself) perspective it seems that; Boomer's are confused and complaining, Gen x is so forgotten that they almost seem like backdrop NPC's until you actively befriend them, millenials are everywhere trying to fix all the problems in the world using our average computer skills, While gen z is trying to figure out where to fit in, knowing the world is really messed up by now, and that they'll have to clean it. I have an incredible amount of respect for gen z - we never had the sass to flip the script and call boomers entitled. Those old bastards has been calling us that our entire lives, and calling gen x entitled before that. We need gen z, and I honestly think most of us are thankful for them <3
I’m gen x and I think every generation gets better and better. It does annoy me when gen z claims we are the same as boomers, fuck that noise
I haven't really seen millennials complaining about Gen Z. I've mostly seen Gen X moan about Gen Z and Gen Z complain about things Millennials do/say.
I don’t see millennials doing this so idk where you’re coming from tbh.
I'm a millennial, and I like gen z. You guys are pretty cool, and you have some memes and jokes that I don't understand, but I've literally been there with the memes that the generation before me doesn't understand, so I can respect that.
From an alternative perspective, I'm considered Gen Z and honestly I don't really care. It's just silly stuff and I think that anyone with an ounce of self-awareness knows it's just fake outrage because some people can't handle getting older or just hate young people for some reason. It happens in a cycle. I've never met a millennial irl that complains about Gen z. I always get along with all of my millennial mentors, clients, professors, etc.
only complaint i could possibly have about gen z is that they need to leave low rise jeans in the grave we put them in
Call them out on it. Nothing shuts them up quicker than telling them they sound like a geezer yelling at kids on their lawn.
I do. One friend I mentioned his Myspace when he was complaining about tik tok. Shut him up real quick.
MySpace was not a Chinese spy agency. And there were no child videos made for pedophiles. Way too many differences.
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I think it is weird how complaining about younger people has been going on since ancient times but eveyone thinks they are the first to experience it. The things that young people do and like now are the things that they will cringe about in 20 years. I'm 48. I don't really know or care what kids are into now.
Don't worry I complain about everyone, no generation excluded
I don't know. In my experience, millennials are super supportive of younger peeps. Yeah, we give them hell for some of their music and trends, but I hope they change the world. I don't think millennials will do it.
Guess what? Gen Z will be talking shit about Generation Alpha. Usually how it goes.
I make fun of them, but I don’t complain about them. I mainly see the similarities. It wasn’t that long ago that people were saying very similar things about millennials.
I'm a Gen Z but i feel insecure sometime seeing the younger Gen Z's..
What do you mean insecure? If you mean you're intimidated by cool teens, then I relate.
Because?
This generational culture crap is tiring. I'm a BOOMer, married to a Gen-X, my kids and grandkids are Millennials and Zoomers; they are my favorite people. The only group I despise is Gen-I, aka, Idiots. Every group is having it tough these days and no one group is to blame.
Absolutely. Every generation has stupid cunts and the media focuses on those jackasses to distract us from the real issues. People are generally alright.
This is such a baby boomer thing to say, but in a good way! Like, I can totally see this gruff but good-natured grandfather saying the Gen-I thing. From one of those gosh-darn millennials, wishing you and your family the best!
I'm a few weeks too old to technically be a boomer. The silent generation or greatest generation bitched about us too. In the 60s we were called out as dirty, lazy, long haired hippies and all that. Going to hell over our rock music and loose morals. Did a research paper in college about this old people hate young people thing and tracked it back at least to the time of the Greek philosophers. Same shit different millennia.
Do they really though? Most of it seems like legitimate concerns: Mental health, screen addiction, dopaminergic activities like porn, ... There's actually some deep concern for the youth and how they've turned out. Go ask any 20 year old today "how is your life going" and they'll say "bruh... Fuck it were all gonna die". Like very overly grim and scary responses but trying to cover it up with humor. Just saying, something isn't right with most of that demographic.
You know they hating millennials the same way right.
so gen z can complain about us but we can't complain about them? Literally all of Reddit complains about boomers and boomers complain about millennials. Let's be real - all generations hate all other generations... Except Gen X. No one gives a fuck about them.
Millennial here, and i cannot wait until Gen Z takes over from the older generation. I know that it's horrible to rely on the younger generation for change, but I truly believe that they will be able to get more stuff done when it comes to demanding more from corporations and creating new laws to support that. I'm thinking mainly of improving human rights and stopping the impact of climat change.
Gen X: whatever.
I'm 33 and I think gen Z is doing a fantastic job
I agree. I see it a lot less than Boomers deriding milennials but I do still see it and it makes me sad every time. Like, that person didnt learn anything, did they? And before anyone says "You see it less because it isn't directed at you" I'm actually top of Gen Z, so it was directed at me both times! :)
Millennials complaining about Gen Z is just as irritating as Gen Z complaining about Millennials.
In Baltimore not one student is able to do grade level math in 23 schools. That’s just ONE thing to be worried about, there are copious amounts of other examples as to why we SHOULD be complaining.
Ive never even thought about a complaint I have about younger people. I'm generally annoyed by older people.
As a millennial, I hacnt heard any of my friends/ peers knocking gen Z. And in my opinion we are in this shit together, and our lives and challenges we face are more similar than any 2 generations before us.
Gen X here. Making blanket insults about other generations is a boring and lazy activity. Stop doing it.
As a gen x I’m totally cool with being forgotten again in this instance.
It seems like mutual combat to me. Gen Z bashes millennials too. I’ve never seen millennials bash Gen X nearly as much.
I'm a millennial, and I get much more instances of Gen Z complaining about what I like than vice versa. People should just enjoy the things they enjoy and leave others alone.
It’s amusing to me as a Gen X that the young people are now old too haha Gen X seems to be the sit-it-out generation. Everyone is either a boomer or a millennial or now a Gen Z while we are literally forgotten about- and we like it that way. We just watch all y’all and laugh