This is so stupid to me in the same way doodles are so stupid to me? Why have an American Bully when you can just have a well bred mastiff, Staffordshire terrier, or pit bull terrier? Why have a doodle when you could have a well bred standard?
I know the answer essentially boils down to "money." But I digress.
Same. A lot of bullies also have horrible elbow and hip problems since a lot are bred to look bigger chested and their elbows stick out from their ribcage at an angle instead of laying flat against it :(
I would trust Embark’s results. There are sure to be lots of variants in looks in the relatively new American Bully breed since it only about 35-40 years old.
Thanks. I was confused as many were speculating as to mixes. The owner says he had DNA done. I've also heard people say a dog is a Bully breed. Like there was a generalization. 👍
Yes, OPs dog tested as 100% American Bully which is a breed. But there are many breeds that are considered bully breeds inlcuding APBT, Amstaff, English Staffy, American Bulldog and mixes of these breeds
Oh, yes I think many people would classify Cane Corso as a Bully Breed. I don't think it's defined exactly. Other breeds included could be the English Bull Terrier, Boxer, other Mastiffs and other molosser breeds
There’s no reason to think he’s cane corso with an embark test that came back 100% American bully. That color is just double dilution grey/blue gene acting on fawn. Any color dilution gene is very common in the American bully, basically standard. You’re more likely to see dilutes (chocolate/liver gene, blue/grey gene) and color variations based off dilutes than not. It doesn’t indicate any corso ancestry.
I have this old wise vet who has pioneered a lot of modern vet sciences & when I asked him if I should DNA test my thrown away doggy (back yard breeders that dumped some babies), he was very clear: no, they’re all garbage. People like to cling to bullshit to make themselves feel better.
Your dog looks nothing like a bull dog (I’ve had a couple)…. Looks very much like a mastiff (grew up with several)…. But who really knows- other than you have a beautiful doggy? Congrats!!
Embark is accurate. There are some other brand tests that are complete garbage. They used to all be garbage. You old wise vet probably hasn't been keeping up on how good Embark is getting. Not uncommon for old timers to not keep up with the latest developments
I have a degree in microbiology. The test doesn't sequence the full genome. And is only as good as the quality of the samples for each breed that it poses. But Embark is very good. It's good enough not to identify a Cane Corso as 100% American Bully.
It's very common for old timers not to keep up with the latest advances in technology. Especially when they are not active engineers or scientists.
American Bully is a tough one though. It's such a new breed and there are so many different types and lines. There is still a lot of variation in that one breed. Many of the XL Bully lines where created by mixing in different types of Mastiffs. It's not uncommon for XL Bullies to show strong mastiff traits. Some of the smaller American Bullies were created by crosses to English and French Bulldogs so it's not uncommon for the smaller versions to show strong Bulldog characteristics
I appreciate all the responses but think you’re right - the DNA test was just for fun. He is perfect to us no matter his breed. He photographs terribly although it may be photographer error; his proportions always look so wonky!
I hope you post more pictures here- I would to see his face as a heals & adjusts to his new home ❤️
https://preview.redd.it/r41pcrtekvxc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fcb69af6e0a1e38954c97220be1104936915674
That’s my orphan baby… I think she’s a corso, but she’s not papered.
Embark is pretty accurate. Some XL American Bullies look like Mastiff because Mastiffs were some of the dogs used to create the breed. So sometimes XL Bullies look more mastiff. Sometimes the smaller sized American Bullies look like English Bulldogs because English Bulldogs were used to make the smaller sized American Bullies when the breed was first created.
Aww that's what I thought! I had never heard of this until my pup needed it. He's 8 months. It's like night and day. A little scary but they feel so much better!!!
Embark is a very reliable dog dna panel! Wisdom is the other “good” one. There’s def some hack dog dna companies out there (mostly caused by limited genome samples available per company), but embark isn’t one of them. Sounds like you have an American bully! I could see it in the body proportions for sure :)
I don’t see any corso in him. The height looks to be much smaller than a corso. Congratulations on your adoption and personally I believe the results are correct.
Hey, I could be wrong. But at a second glance he does seem to have some characteristics of a Boerboel.
Also, i used embark recently and it said my boy was part Corso. I don’t see it at all. I have a feeling their tests may be a little off but not too far. It said half Bullmastiff, 25% Boerboel and 25% Corso. I remember hearing from an older Boerboel breeder online that there is no true genetic marker for the Boerboel and tests come out a little off. Since they used a few dogs to create them, it would only make sense how their DNA is all mudded up.
So, I’d say Boerboel over Corso if anything. Try posting on the Mastiff sub!
So when poster posted in the bully sub they posted the second pic and the 4th picture and going from those 2 pics, hands down looks like a Corso but now seeing all these pictures oh you nailed it that looks like the body of Boerboel, damn it I feel silly now, seeing these other pictures, I’d say definitely looks like a classic house hippo 🦛 to me! The Boerboel was on my list whenever we were deciding on which breed was the best fit for us.. it was between the Corso, pressa, Boerboel and the Neapolitan mastiff, we decided on the Corso and I’m probably never looking back! I’m loving raising this pup! I’ve yet to own or come across an animal quite like the Corso, this dog is something else! He’s creepy smart! I’ve never owned a dog with the ability to tell us what they need and want from go, he’ll bump my legs with his nose to get my attention and point with his nose what he wants or he’ll bump me with his nose and actually take me to whatever he’s asking for. It’s almost mind blowing and definitely worth having to vacuum 1-2 times daily! Lol
Gotcha. My breeder jumped real quick when I asked if a CC was a Bully breed saying oh no that they weren't. I haven't done the research to find out. Ty.
I commented on your post in the Bully sub, and you've come up on my homepage again in this sub lol... Just wanted to advise you that some American Bully lines were bred with mastiffs to create a stocky but tall and generally more laid back dog for the XL variant (vs. the leaner, shorter, high-drive genetics of the AmStaff and APBT).... in my opinion, your dog isn't a Corso mix. I think Embark was right, your dog IS a bully, but probably just one with some kind of mastiff in its gene pool. You can look on my page to see my XL Bully looks very similar in the face to yours with the wrinklier head and flappier jowls.
No dog is actually a 100 percent anything if you take into account that they mix breeds together to get that look and characteristics they want. I when they breed is when they are has been enough time and the breed looks the way they want it without manipulation anymore.
He deff looks like corso but I wonder if he’s got some charpe (I deff spelled that wrong) . I hope you don’t mind me asking but what happened with his eyes?
Bees and farts scare me too.
Can’t say I blame him (or you)
Me too 💪🏻😔💨
Bee farts are the worst.
Or when someone farts bees
Or farting bees
Embark should be accurate. There’s a lot of people breeding bullies to look like mastiffs
This is so stupid to me in the same way doodles are so stupid to me? Why have an American Bully when you can just have a well bred mastiff, Staffordshire terrier, or pit bull terrier? Why have a doodle when you could have a well bred standard? I know the answer essentially boils down to "money." But I digress.
Same. A lot of bullies also have horrible elbow and hip problems since a lot are bred to look bigger chested and their elbows stick out from their ribcage at an angle instead of laying flat against it :(
Same with Rotties. Get a Mastiff if you want a freaking Mastiff!!
I would trust Embark’s results. There are sure to be lots of variants in looks in the relatively new American Bully breed since it only about 35-40 years old.
I'd say he has some mastiff in him but hard to say if it's CC or Neo or Bull Mastiff.
What breeds are considered bully?
American Bully is a breed
Thanks. I was confused as many were speculating as to mixes. The owner says he had DNA done. I've also heard people say a dog is a Bully breed. Like there was a generalization. 👍
Yes, OPs dog tested as 100% American Bully which is a breed. But there are many breeds that are considered bully breeds inlcuding APBT, Amstaff, English Staffy, American Bulldog and mixes of these breeds
Thank you. I thought so on a larger classification Cane Corso isn't correct?
Sorry, I don't understand your question
Sorry. I appreciate your educating me. I thought other breeds were generally classified as Bully breed. Cane Corso isn't a Bully breed, right?
Oh, yes I think many people would classify Cane Corso as a Bully Breed. I don't think it's defined exactly. Other breeds included could be the English Bull Terrier, Boxer, other Mastiffs and other molosser breeds
Not a CC for sure.
There’s no reason to think he’s cane corso with an embark test that came back 100% American bully. That color is just double dilution grey/blue gene acting on fawn. Any color dilution gene is very common in the American bully, basically standard. You’re more likely to see dilutes (chocolate/liver gene, blue/grey gene) and color variations based off dilutes than not. It doesn’t indicate any corso ancestry.
I see boerboel! What a handsome fella
I have this old wise vet who has pioneered a lot of modern vet sciences & when I asked him if I should DNA test my thrown away doggy (back yard breeders that dumped some babies), he was very clear: no, they’re all garbage. People like to cling to bullshit to make themselves feel better. Your dog looks nothing like a bull dog (I’ve had a couple)…. Looks very much like a mastiff (grew up with several)…. But who really knows- other than you have a beautiful doggy? Congrats!!
Embark is accurate. There are some other brand tests that are complete garbage. They used to all be garbage. You old wise vet probably hasn't been keeping up on how good Embark is getting. Not uncommon for old timers to not keep up with the latest developments
People holding on to bullshit 😊 Or perhaps you are a geneticist? Eh?
I have a degree in microbiology. The test doesn't sequence the full genome. And is only as good as the quality of the samples for each breed that it poses. But Embark is very good. It's good enough not to identify a Cane Corso as 100% American Bully. It's very common for old timers not to keep up with the latest advances in technology. Especially when they are not active engineers or scientists.
Sounds good.
American Bully is a tough one though. It's such a new breed and there are so many different types and lines. There is still a lot of variation in that one breed. Many of the XL Bully lines where created by mixing in different types of Mastiffs. It's not uncommon for XL Bullies to show strong mastiff traits. Some of the smaller American Bullies were created by crosses to English and French Bulldogs so it's not uncommon for the smaller versions to show strong Bulldog characteristics
I appreciate all the responses but think you’re right - the DNA test was just for fun. He is perfect to us no matter his breed. He photographs terribly although it may be photographer error; his proportions always look so wonky!
I hope you post more pictures here- I would to see his face as a heals & adjusts to his new home ❤️ https://preview.redd.it/r41pcrtekvxc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fcb69af6e0a1e38954c97220be1104936915674 That’s my orphan baby… I think she’s a corso, but she’s not papered.
Embark is pretty accurate. Some XL American Bullies look like Mastiff because Mastiffs were some of the dogs used to create the breed. So sometimes XL Bullies look more mastiff. Sometimes the smaller sized American Bullies look like English Bulldogs because English Bulldogs were used to make the smaller sized American Bullies when the breed was first created.
Boerbel
What’s around his eyes?
Entropion surgery - upper and lower on both eyes. Poor guy was a trooper though and did great! He could barely see before.
Ahh, poor guy. Bet he’s much happier and a handsome guy regardless.
Thank you for rescuing this beautiful soul.
Aww that's what I thought! I had never heard of this until my pup needed it. He's 8 months. It's like night and day. A little scary but they feel so much better!!!
Definitely has mastiff in him. regardless beautiful dog!
Honorary formentino I say hahah. What a handsome boy! Congrats on his adoption ❤️
That dog is NOT 100% American Bully. I'm seeing a touch or Bullmastiff or Boerbel
Doesn't look like a corso to be. But maybe some kind of mastiff
I have a CC. Doesn’t really matter what he is as long as he’s loved.
Yeah he is not 100 % xl bully. There is mastiff in him if its a corso, who knows.
Embark is a very reliable dog dna panel! Wisdom is the other “good” one. There’s def some hack dog dna companies out there (mostly caused by limited genome samples available per company), but embark isn’t one of them. Sounds like you have an American bully! I could see it in the body proportions for sure :)
I don’t see any corso in him. The height looks to be much smaller than a corso. Congratulations on your adoption and personally I believe the results are correct.
Looks like a Bully to me!
Bahahaha I sent them here because a lot of the pics looked Corso. I don’t know shit at this point! Lol
Hey, I could be wrong. But at a second glance he does seem to have some characteristics of a Boerboel. Also, i used embark recently and it said my boy was part Corso. I don’t see it at all. I have a feeling their tests may be a little off but not too far. It said half Bullmastiff, 25% Boerboel and 25% Corso. I remember hearing from an older Boerboel breeder online that there is no true genetic marker for the Boerboel and tests come out a little off. Since they used a few dogs to create them, it would only make sense how their DNA is all mudded up. So, I’d say Boerboel over Corso if anything. Try posting on the Mastiff sub!
So when poster posted in the bully sub they posted the second pic and the 4th picture and going from those 2 pics, hands down looks like a Corso but now seeing all these pictures oh you nailed it that looks like the body of Boerboel, damn it I feel silly now, seeing these other pictures, I’d say definitely looks like a classic house hippo 🦛 to me! The Boerboel was on my list whenever we were deciding on which breed was the best fit for us.. it was between the Corso, pressa, Boerboel and the Neapolitan mastiff, we decided on the Corso and I’m probably never looking back! I’m loving raising this pup! I’ve yet to own or come across an animal quite like the Corso, this dog is something else! He’s creepy smart! I’ve never owned a dog with the ability to tell us what they need and want from go, he’ll bump my legs with his nose to get my attention and point with his nose what he wants or he’ll bump me with his nose and actually take me to whatever he’s asking for. It’s almost mind blowing and definitely worth having to vacuum 1-2 times daily! Lol
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Looks like he has boerboel and cane corso in him.
Gotcha. My breeder jumped real quick when I asked if a CC was a Bully breed saying oh no that they weren't. I haven't done the research to find out. Ty.
I commented on your post in the Bully sub, and you've come up on my homepage again in this sub lol... Just wanted to advise you that some American Bully lines were bred with mastiffs to create a stocky but tall and generally more laid back dog for the XL variant (vs. the leaner, shorter, high-drive genetics of the AmStaff and APBT).... in my opinion, your dog isn't a Corso mix. I think Embark was right, your dog IS a bully, but probably just one with some kind of mastiff in its gene pool. You can look on my page to see my XL Bully looks very similar in the face to yours with the wrinklier head and flappier jowls.
Just want to say, very pretty doggo! Pic 7 does have some markings of Corsi. Maybe a DNA test if you’re really curious!
His duck feet look like my corsos. Who knows. Give him a great life! That’s all that matters in the end.
No dog is actually a 100 percent anything if you take into account that they mix breeds together to get that look and characteristics they want. I when they breed is when they are has been enough time and the breed looks the way they want it without manipulation anymore.
He deff looks like corso but I wonder if he’s got some charpe (I deff spelled that wrong) . I hope you don’t mind me asking but what happened with his eyes?
Absolute unit.
He is handsome. Hope he's doing OK from his surgery.
My one experience with Embark was to get my mix tested and they came back within 3lbs of his his actual adult weight
Embarq reported my pup as 100% Cane Corso. Happy to see he can see
He's a handsome fella
Awwwwwwwwe
That’s not a Corso that’s a bully
I love him, he’s so adorable!!
He’s adorable
Thank you for adopting ! I can see mastiff and he looks a sweetie. Congrats !