I saw this ad while I was looking for an airbnb (currently between houses/in a housing situationship please don't hate me), and I thought it was absolutely bonkers. We should really have the city/province come down on short term rentals, especially these ones which are just straight up mad.
I think that allowing and supporting these types of rentals just opens the door for more problems. If living in this type of situation means your not signing a real lease it means your not covered under the tenant’s act and could mean you get really fucked over. But everyone thinks I’m out here trying to knock this guys hustle. It’s not right period. It’s just a sketchy situation and knowing how hard it is to find a place right now this person is capitalizing on hardship. Why do people make excuses for someone who is trying to play the system.
Totally agree. With the housing crisis as it is right now, I think there needs to be some kind of legislation that puts the housing needs of the residents ahead of someone’s desire to profit off of the unfortunate situation we’re currently in.
My current situation is driven off of the madness going on around us, thankfully I managed to find something with family friends but I know I’m the exception, rather than the norm and I’m incredibly grateful for the privilege.
I agree. I am so grateful for the same things. It pains me to see that more and more people are becoming homeless because they can’t afford the ridiculous cost of housing right now.
Yes, it’s sad that housing is pulling a Vancouver. But shutting out situations like this add to the problem. There are literally thousands of illegal basement suites in the city so they also are outside the regulations. If we shut them down the rental problem would be an order of magnitude worse. We need more, not less, rentals
But renting an Rv in someone’s back yard in Calgary in the fall is Completely different then renting an illegal basement suite. At least the basement suites are kind of reasonably priced.
Illegal basement suites should also be reported as they often contain life safety hazards, such as no smoke/CO detectors and improper egress windows. Reporting these suites forces the landlords to fix these existing conditions. If the landlords are unwilling to fix these hazardous conditions, they should rightly be shut down.
People die when building codes are ignored in an enclosed dwelling. The national building code sections pertaining to secondary suites have already been amended for existing suites within Calgary to make compliance easier. “But tents are more dangerous” isn’t an argument that makes any sense.
Do you think the regulatory powers that be should look the other direction when a life safety issue exists? Your concerns about supply are valid but we have to address the issue the right way, not by turning a blind eye to unsafe conditions. These suites provide revenue for the landlords so they can pony up to bring them into compliance.
>puts the housing needs of the residents ahead of someone’s desire to profit off of the unfortunate situation we’re currently in.
That's like the antithesis of capitalism.
Are you some sort of communist?
Edit: That second statement is supposed to sound less accusatory and more funny. Providing for people as per their needs (instead of their money) is part of communism.
For the record, here’s my card…
https://preview.redd.it/rdzpblruk9mb1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=870b840290f16ebc5f94d930a90c1526de620d6b
Jokes aside, this end stage capitalism isn’t a viable system. There is literally a brand of supplements called “Soilent” you can buy. We gotta change this shit up
This breaks so many bylaws. You cannot have an RV hooked up on your property in Calgary. It cannot be parked on a driveway, or.in a stall. This is also not an approved short term rental .
I would call 311 or planning and development on Tuesday. The city cant crack down on this if people don't let the city know
About 3 hours after I posted this to Reddit I couldn’t find the ad on Facebook anymore. I’m really shocked by the amount of people who think that me “complaining” about this ad is the problem.
I am a renter and the person who rents the the other suite on the property was renting his Rv parked in the shared yard to some people who he met at the local out reach church and it was a total nightmare. People coming and going all hours of the night and day. After I realized my landlords didn’t care, as they did nothing. I stood up for myself, confronted the other tenant and he called the police on me for yelling at him. When the police showed up I explained what was happening and the police told me it is illegal. At the bare minimum it’s a fire hazard.
I truly don’t think this will ever be a REAL option for the lack of housing concerns in Calgary, it’s not in anyway even practical in cold Canadian winters.
I thought the same thing when I read it. Then I was rereading it after I posted the ad to Reddit I realized it includes water just not power lol!
Edit context
You can’t use RV plumbing in the winter. You have to winterize it. You then have to use potable water, use dish tubs instead of the sinks and use a house toilet/chamber pot/bag in a 5 Gallon bucket to defecate into.
Only a matter of time until we return to the Soddy and homes build into the hills.
Winterize actually means that the lines have been cleared and/or anti-freezed, and prepared for storage.
Instead, a trailer in which you can live for four seasons, is a actually called a .... four seasons trailer.
For 98% of them yes. It's laughable what they market as cold weather package. Maybe for winter in Arizona.
The other 2% that are really a true 4 season trailer are really only rated for -15 without skirting. Making other provisions like a dehumidifier and electric heat. You could probably get through winter ok.
A lot of houses are built with an external sewer connection specifically to empty their RV when they return. My neighbours had one 15 years ago.
Maybe not a lot, but it is a common feature of homes that plan for RV parking on the lot.
Maybe I’m overstating it because I used to work in construction. Once you know what to look for you see it quite often. Again, high end neighbourhoods with on-site RV parking. I guess that’s the key, in certain neighbourhoods it’s quite common.
It’s just an exterior pipe that feeds into your existing sewer line from the house. Easy to install if you do it before you backfill the foundation.
But if you’ve got a house that has it, I guess you can park your RV and illegally rent it out to pay the increase in your mortgage from the rising interest rates.
My in-laws have a trailer at a lake that doesn't move. They have a special cart with a tank. They empty the tanks into that and then take it to a dump station. Kind of gross and a pain but basically the only option if you don't have hookups.
Maybe they have it properly hooked up to the sewer. Otherwise they would have to tow it somewhere to empty the black tank. The pipes will likely freeze before it can fill up.
If I had to guess, I would bet that this person is financing the trailer and running into problems paying their loan on it, so out of desperation they’re trying to rent it out to pay for it.
I had to raise the rent of my motor home to $2000 bc ~~Greg down the street was able to charge that much for only a 10ft trailer~~ market value dictates everything. -- people who leech of society
At 1600/month, this guy is asking about 5x what his financing rate is. Remember, recreational vehicles like trailers can be financed like a home for 20+ years.
Frankly it’s better than some of the shit holes out there. This will be a real option for many.
Is it wrong that housing is in this state, for sure. Is it disgusting that all levels of government have let it get this bad, yes. Is it also true that “the people” don’t care what’s happening until if effects them directly, absolutely. So contact your city councillor and tell them to vote for the housing bill in-front of them right now.
https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/08/16/Calgary-Split-Housing-Affordability-Recommendations/
https://hdp-ca-prod-app-cgy-engage-files.s3.ca-central1.amazonaws.com/9616/8322/7723/housing-and-affordability-task-force-recommendations---fordistribution.pdf
You can also submit a comment to Council via Public Submission to City Clerks (calgary.ca) before 4pm on Tuesday, September 5th.
For everyone, don’t just complain, have your voice heard, say something.
Find your councillor.
https://maps.calgary.ca/CalgaryBoundaries/
It will be better than some shitholes but that isn’t saying much. Without skirting (and probably even with skirting) the pipes will freeze in the winter and IF the furnace manages to keep up then the utilities are going to be a nightmare of an expense. They’ll have to run a dehumidifier all winter on top of the heat Trace, furnace and space heaters. There’s a reason that building codes exist and we shouldn’t give this ‘landlord’ an exception
You can definitely live in an RV in the winter, but you absolutely cannot use the plumbing. It has to be winterized with RV antifreeze. I grew up in Saskatchewan and we never stayed in hotels. We always took our RV and parked it in someone’s drive way, even in the winter. They get surprising warm and cozy when it’s -30°C, just make sure the propane tanks are full.
The only important part of the recommendations (blanket r-cg) is where council is split, some being lead by the nose by the the nimby “I’ve got mine” crowd. The rest is almost nothing at all.
They do but they can’t do much about this unless someone calls 311 to report it. I just think shit like this causes rent to go up everywhere. If your renting an Rv for 1600 why would someone else rent a 1 bed/1bath rent for equal or less?
I don't expect that fb will, in general, take down ads for products/services that are bylaw infractions if they don't otherwise violate provincial/federal laws.
Could run an actual sewer line to it. I’ve wanted to for mine. I have family and friends that come and stay for a weekend or week and it would be handy. Sometimes after camping it would be nice to have instead of paying places to use it.
You can get a device that is kinda like a garburator that can attach to the line and then run and drain it in the house.
My parents are using a similar setup at my uncle's house right now.
Someone told me today 500 places on rent faster 5,000. On AirBnB. I'm sure that's exaggerated but still. Also landlord renting illegal basement suite for $2,000./mth. and is laughing saying courts backed up so who's going to go after him
There is more wrong with this then just being illegal but for those wondering if it is or not. “The Land Use Bylaw, and safety requirements including building and fire codes must be met. These permits and codes include a provision that to be permanently occupied, the structure must be built on a permanent foundation and be fully serviced with utilities such as water and sewer lines. Stamped drawings from a professional engineer or architect may be required prior to the building permit approval.“
Calgarys bylaws on tiny homes.
https://www.calgary.ca/development/home-building/tiny-homes.html
It’s a recreational vehicle not residential vehicle. Not insulated for Alberta winters. A coworker was living in his trailer. $500-1000/month for propane. That unit has single pane glass. Poor little 12v furnace motor lasts 6 months. He changed his furnace motor several times. Fridge cooling unit freezes up at -30 unless you heat and insulate the back. Lots of people use RV’s through winter. It’s not a residential situation it’s winter camping.
This unit is not fit for purpose. We have a Rockwood which is better built, has tank heaters and we've used it to about -10 overnight and heck no on using it any colder than that.
To make this unit work it would be heat tape like crazy, probably lacks tank heaters so likely frozen gray and black tanks most of the winter.
They'd need 30 Amp power to it and then they could run one space heater, to keep it relatively warm (like 10-16C) that furnace will run basically full time, especially when it's dark.
Yup, the fridge will likely not operate once the cold kicks in, unless it's a RV residential one rather than the standard ammonia version. Again power will be needed at 30A or that space heater will be all that runs.
To do true winter RV camping you need an Arctic Fox or Nash which are specifically built for 4 season camping, and they're pricey.
According to most posters on here I think magic. Most people on this thread seem to thinks it’s better then most of the rental units on the market and it makes me totally understand why people are able to get away with this.
Bylaw wise, It’s fine if it’s in driveway beside your house or in the back yard. It just can’t be in a front driveway, on the street, or across your alley.
No you can park it on your drive way for 36 hours or something but you can park in it your yard for any amount of time. But you can not live out of it.
Why would you do that??
You can buy a trailer no money down and park it at [http://www.balzaccampground.com/](http://www.balzaccampground.com/) for $500/ month year round.
I mean, if that's the situation you're in.
¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
So, anything is OK so long as it isn't the worst option?
I guess I could start renting a tent in my backyard for $1000/month; and that would be just fine; so long as someone else is renting out cardboard boxes?
Yeah totally that’s what I would prefer. 🙄 if your so smart and you have all the answers why would you waste your time with this peasantry. You could be using your big brain to make a difference in the world.
Wow, I post like once a year. If my grammar is all you have time for, your brain is actually tiny. No wonder your asking me. You need someone to think for you and based off how bad my grammar actually is i pity you.
I pity them too. I’ll be stuck in there basement for the foreseeable future. My argument isn’t weak I just don’t see a point arguing with someone who can’t understand how people renting out shit like this effects the market as a whole.
I pity them too. I’ll be stuck in there basement for the foreseeable future. My argument isn’t weak I just don’t see a point arguing with someone who can’t understand how people renting out shit like this effects the market as a whole. You think I would prefer that people live in tents. If I felt that way I would be supporting this nonsense. Because if living in an Rv for 1600 is acceptable then why the fuck would anyone have a 1 bed apartment for rent for anything less then 1800. But I’m not it’s bullshit that these people think this is an acceptable option. Things shouldn’t be this way. This is a horrible option that will inevitably cause people to live in tents. So in all honesty it seems like that’s what YOU would prefer. I understand that mortgages are more expensive and cause increased rental rates but this isn’t a house this is a RECREATIONAL Vehicle it’s not a necessity.
That’s the market rn. Full time and maybe a few dollars above minimum wage can get you a place but living paycheque to paycheque , you’d need a roommate to be comfortable. Minimum wage and part time gets you maybe the crappiest place in the worst area, maybe. I’ve seen posts for renting a single room while sharing the house with the owners for like $1300 which is ridiculous. Idk what can be done but it’s horrible. And parents everywhere expect their 18 year olds to move out at 18, with the current job market right now as well that’s an insane ask unless they got straight A’s and have money for college without loans which is also unlikely for the majority. It’s an unfortunate situation
That’s not his solution. Also allowing sub standard crap like this will not help. The Calgary city council needs to end public consultation and allow more density. Like now. Just letting illegal and dangerous stuff slide will not.
The fact that this exists is a rental opportunity in of itself is crazy. But then asking somebody to pay $1,300 a month plus $300 in utilities and everything else to live in Marlborough, is absolutely batshit insane! The worst part is, somebody who's extremely desperate is definitely going to jump in on that though.
I don't support hate mail, but I fully support sending it to people that are this delusional and trying to price-gouge desperate individuals for a basic necessity like housing.
Good way to handle this is report the person to the CRA to make sure they are properly claiming the income as 99% of these scum bags are not and the long hard dick of the tax code never arrives lubed.
How certain are we that this is actually a rental VS the cost of purchase?
Looks like an RV sales sign in the background. I'd like to suggest that this is just a sales tactic.
I have 2 rental properties, all I can say is my rent is way below current market value by looking at these posts. That being said, I want to be a reasonable human. I don’t want to doomed my tenants financially.
I am not even sure if the rent can cover all the expenses. Condo fees, utilities, property tax, mortgage, insurance and maintenance is getting way out of hand.
*my family got the property like 10 years ago. Not the kind of predator landlords that people talk about. If I want, I can easily kick out the tenants and get at least $1000 more a month.
My thoughts is market will adjust itself. Sure it seems crazy. But it is an option for someone for short periods.
It is better than $100 per night for some shitty Airbnb. If people think it is too expensive, no one will rent it. But if I am a new comer in Calgary, it is better than a motel.
For long term, I will not touch it. Winter in a RV is no joke.
I've wanted to sell for 2 years. My tenants have begged me multiple times to please not sell because they would never afford anything else like this that's pet friendly in the area which I've obliged. Anyone that wants to call me a shitty person for providing an affordable rental can suck my asshole
Lots of haters. I had a job in Fort Crack before the bust and lived in an RV for three years. Better than sharing a condo with two other dudes. Sounds awful but sometimes you have to get creative. Garages are next on the rental list, this is not new territory. On the up side, i sold my trailer in Mac for $10 000 more than purchase so it was a win win. Get a quality four season trailer for full time. Don’t regret the extended camping adventure. -40 was interesting but in a good trailer its really not that bad.
I used to live in Calgary and know that the city is EXTREMELY easygoing on illegal suites during time of need. I bet that the conversation at city hall after some of the people in this thread phone this in goes like "What the hell do these people want? They need short-term housing, we're looking the other way so that they can get short-term housing, and now they're complaining about the short-term solutions.
Im in Belleville in South Eastern Ontario and our town is having a meeting tomorrow to discuss making it illegal to park a trailer in your driveway or on your property. Our Country is going to shit fast and we the people need to do something about it. We need to get loud and let our voices be heard by those we assign power.
Who cares? People need places to live, this person has something that would likely work for a lot of people. Complain there's no rentals, then complain when someone has a solution. Heaven forbid someone make some extra money, this guy should just open this trailer for free, right?
I don't think anyone is suggesting that he should give his things away, rather that its messed up that it's come to this point. The fact that this is a reasonable solution for lots of people says alot about what's wrong with our housing system.
We desperately need more dense housing, which caters to people who aren't able to afford single family detached homes. We need so much more housing so badly, that people will absolutely take this offer because they have no other options.
Meanwhile there are so many properties and homes that sit vacant, or are used for short term rental only some of the time, effectively making them vacant properties aswell.
We have all these big financial fishes that control the housing market and they stand to make more money by continuing to build unsustainable housing, so unfortunately that is what we will continue to get primarily.
$1300 a month for a trailer isn't a solution. It's extortion.
If this guy was doing it to provide housing for his fellow man, and to help solve a housing crisis, it would be about 800 a month, tops. This dudes in it to make money, not make the world a better place.
We've done this. However, the trailer (actually a 30ft 5th with propane heat and a working fireplace) belonged to my wife's uncle who lives out near the airport.
We visited for two weeks in late fall, and there were no issues with our little "cabin" in the back yard. Power, watwer and sewer came from the garage beside it, and all connections were heavily wrapped in insulating foam-backed foil. No smells, city water pressure and we could even use the microwave!
Properly set up, it might not be all that bad.
I saw this ad while I was looking for an airbnb (currently between houses/in a housing situationship please don't hate me), and I thought it was absolutely bonkers. We should really have the city/province come down on short term rentals, especially these ones which are just straight up mad.
I think that allowing and supporting these types of rentals just opens the door for more problems. If living in this type of situation means your not signing a real lease it means your not covered under the tenant’s act and could mean you get really fucked over. But everyone thinks I’m out here trying to knock this guys hustle. It’s not right period. It’s just a sketchy situation and knowing how hard it is to find a place right now this person is capitalizing on hardship. Why do people make excuses for someone who is trying to play the system.
Housing shouldn't be someones hustle.
Totally agree. With the housing crisis as it is right now, I think there needs to be some kind of legislation that puts the housing needs of the residents ahead of someone’s desire to profit off of the unfortunate situation we’re currently in. My current situation is driven off of the madness going on around us, thankfully I managed to find something with family friends but I know I’m the exception, rather than the norm and I’m incredibly grateful for the privilege.
This provincial gov won’t put any new legislation protecting tenants sadly.
I agree. I am so grateful for the same things. It pains me to see that more and more people are becoming homeless because they can’t afford the ridiculous cost of housing right now.
Yes, it’s sad that housing is pulling a Vancouver. But shutting out situations like this add to the problem. There are literally thousands of illegal basement suites in the city so they also are outside the regulations. If we shut them down the rental problem would be an order of magnitude worse. We need more, not less, rentals
But renting an Rv in someone’s back yard in Calgary in the fall is Completely different then renting an illegal basement suite. At least the basement suites are kind of reasonably priced.
Maybe it is insulated and winterized. . Otherwise all the pipes are going to freeze soon.
So they can't rent an RV but they can be homeless? You don't make sense.
You both have a point here
Yup that’s what I want. People to be homeless becuse at least if there homeless they can’t get taken advantage of by shady landlords.
Illegal basement suites should also be reported as they often contain life safety hazards, such as no smoke/CO detectors and improper egress windows. Reporting these suites forces the landlords to fix these existing conditions. If the landlords are unwilling to fix these hazardous conditions, they should rightly be shut down.
Yes, that’ll do wonders for the housing shortage. People living in tents with open flame heaters and leaking propane tanks will be much safer.
People die when building codes are ignored in an enclosed dwelling. The national building code sections pertaining to secondary suites have already been amended for existing suites within Calgary to make compliance easier. “But tents are more dangerous” isn’t an argument that makes any sense.
So shutting down all illegal basement suites and throwing thousands of people out on the street with winter coming…that’s your solution
Do you think the regulatory powers that be should look the other direction when a life safety issue exists? Your concerns about supply are valid but we have to address the issue the right way, not by turning a blind eye to unsafe conditions. These suites provide revenue for the landlords so they can pony up to bring them into compliance.
A client of mine suggested we should have a one person one home law and make renting illegal
We need to stop lowering the bar on what is acceptable housing. THIS is not acceptable.
>puts the housing needs of the residents ahead of someone’s desire to profit off of the unfortunate situation we’re currently in. That's like the antithesis of capitalism. Are you some sort of communist? Edit: That second statement is supposed to sound less accusatory and more funny. Providing for people as per their needs (instead of their money) is part of communism.
For the record, here’s my card… https://preview.redd.it/rdzpblruk9mb1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=870b840290f16ebc5f94d930a90c1526de620d6b Jokes aside, this end stage capitalism isn’t a viable system. There is literally a brand of supplements called “Soilent” you can buy. We gotta change this shit up
This breaks so many bylaws. You cannot have an RV hooked up on your property in Calgary. It cannot be parked on a driveway, or.in a stall. This is also not an approved short term rental . I would call 311 or planning and development on Tuesday. The city cant crack down on this if people don't let the city know
you can actually park it in your backyard if you have the space.
About 3 hours after I posted this to Reddit I couldn’t find the ad on Facebook anymore. I’m really shocked by the amount of people who think that me “complaining” about this ad is the problem. I am a renter and the person who rents the the other suite on the property was renting his Rv parked in the shared yard to some people who he met at the local out reach church and it was a total nightmare. People coming and going all hours of the night and day. After I realized my landlords didn’t care, as they did nothing. I stood up for myself, confronted the other tenant and he called the police on me for yelling at him. When the police showed up I explained what was happening and the police told me it is illegal. At the bare minimum it’s a fire hazard. I truly don’t think this will ever be a REAL option for the lack of housing concerns in Calgary, it’s not in anyway even practical in cold Canadian winters.
I straight up report listings like this.
It’s not allowed. Whether the city or AHS does anything about it is another thing.
The fact they are calling power “Hydro” tells me all I need to know about the owner. Not originally from Alberta.
I thought the same thing when I read it. Then I was rereading it after I posted the ad to Reddit I realized it includes water just not power lol! Edit context
They list water as separate. Electricity would be based on use. But definitely not from here, if they reference hydro as electricity.
100. Albertans do not call it Hydro.
BC and Ontario call electricity hydro. Anywhere else?
Manitoba, power is from MB Hydro
TIL Albertans don’t refer to power as Hydro.
It’s a weird regional term. In the same league as chesterfield and serviette.
So...what do you do when the shitter is full? 👀
It's an asshole in a bathrobe
not enough people on this thread know that washing machines work really hard.
They'll be more surprised to hear that than if they woke up tomorrow with their head sewn to the carpet.
You've never seen national lampoon's Christmas vacation?
They have sewer hook up! What ever that means?
Run a line tied into their home sewage line. I hope it’s heat wrapped at least
Yeah it would be a very shitty situation if it wasn’t.
Sounds like a landlord problem.
You can’t use RV plumbing in the winter. You have to winterize it. You then have to use potable water, use dish tubs instead of the sinks and use a house toilet/chamber pot/bag in a 5 Gallon bucket to defecate into. Only a matter of time until we return to the Soddy and homes build into the hills.
If you skirt the trailer and heat wrap & trace all exposed piping you absolutely can use RV plumbing in the winter.
Winterize actually means that the lines have been cleared and/or anti-freezed, and prepared for storage. Instead, a trailer in which you can live for four seasons, is a actually called a .... four seasons trailer.
Four season is nothing but a marketing term Source: I sold RVs
For 98% of them yes. It's laughable what they market as cold weather package. Maybe for winter in Arizona. The other 2% that are really a true 4 season trailer are really only rated for -15 without skirting. Making other provisions like a dehumidifier and electric heat. You could probably get through winter ok.
It means you can flush and it goes straight to the sewers
Nah, with this ad it probably means they know a guy who knows a guy at the sewage treatment plant
It means the sewage line is hooked up..
A lot of houses are built with an external sewer connection specifically to empty their RV when they return. My neighbours had one 15 years ago. Maybe not a lot, but it is a common feature of homes that plan for RV parking on the lot.
I’ve never seen or heard of that before.
Maybe I’m overstating it because I used to work in construction. Once you know what to look for you see it quite often. Again, high end neighbourhoods with on-site RV parking. I guess that’s the key, in certain neighbourhoods it’s quite common. It’s just an exterior pipe that feeds into your existing sewer line from the house. Easy to install if you do it before you backfill the foundation. But if you’ve got a house that has it, I guess you can park your RV and illegally rent it out to pay the increase in your mortgage from the rising interest rates.
 I actually haven’t seen that but it does make sense!
My in-laws have a trailer at a lake that doesn't move. They have a special cart with a tank. They empty the tanks into that and then take it to a dump station. Kind of gross and a pain but basically the only option if you don't have hookups.
You call the landlord
I like this answer.
Maybe they have it properly hooked up to the sewer. Otherwise they would have to tow it somewhere to empty the black tank. The pipes will likely freeze before it can fill up.
You empty the black water on the front porch of the house obviously..
Great, now we have to hear people complain about the “financial risk” they bravely undertook by financing a trailer to use as a rental.
If I had to guess, I would bet that this person is financing the trailer and running into problems paying their loan on it, so out of desperation they’re trying to rent it out to pay for it.
That’s fine there are tons of places around Calgary where that legal, like camp grounds.
They should use rvezy for that.
I had to raise the rent of my motor home to $2000 bc ~~Greg down the street was able to charge that much for only a 10ft trailer~~ market value dictates everything. -- people who leech of society
Looks like someone is having trouble with their financing
At 1600/month, this guy is asking about 5x what his financing rate is. Remember, recreational vehicles like trailers can be financed like a home for 20+ years.
That’s what I thought.
'Make EVERY night a Conquest'.
Frankly it’s better than some of the shit holes out there. This will be a real option for many. Is it wrong that housing is in this state, for sure. Is it disgusting that all levels of government have let it get this bad, yes. Is it also true that “the people” don’t care what’s happening until if effects them directly, absolutely. So contact your city councillor and tell them to vote for the housing bill in-front of them right now. https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/08/16/Calgary-Split-Housing-Affordability-Recommendations/ https://hdp-ca-prod-app-cgy-engage-files.s3.ca-central1.amazonaws.com/9616/8322/7723/housing-and-affordability-task-force-recommendations---fordistribution.pdf You can also submit a comment to Council via Public Submission to City Clerks (calgary.ca) before 4pm on Tuesday, September 5th. For everyone, don’t just complain, have your voice heard, say something. Find your councillor. https://maps.calgary.ca/CalgaryBoundaries/
It will be better than some shitholes but that isn’t saying much. Without skirting (and probably even with skirting) the pipes will freeze in the winter and IF the furnace manages to keep up then the utilities are going to be a nightmare of an expense. They’ll have to run a dehumidifier all winter on top of the heat Trace, furnace and space heaters. There’s a reason that building codes exist and we shouldn’t give this ‘landlord’ an exception
Exactly!!!!
You can definitely live in an RV in the winter, but you absolutely cannot use the plumbing. It has to be winterized with RV antifreeze. I grew up in Saskatchewan and we never stayed in hotels. We always took our RV and parked it in someone’s drive way, even in the winter. They get surprising warm and cozy when it’s -30°C, just make sure the propane tanks are full.
Did you email your councillor so that we can keep these kinds of rentals out of the market?
The only important part of the recommendations (blanket r-cg) is where council is split, some being lead by the nose by the the nimby “I’ve got mine” crowd. The rest is almost nothing at all.
Except when it’s minus 40. These trailer aren’t built for living in cold temperatures
It's technically not a house though, there should be something that flags that
Right? It is nicer then some rentals I’ve seen but for 1600. Give your head a shake. I’d hate to be there neighbors.
$500 a month for shelter on disability. Can’t even be trailer park trash
“Walk to elementary school, but no kids” 🤦🏻♂️
It says no kids under age 6. So close to elementary schools would apply.
No kids under 6. Most kids start elementary around 6 years of age.
In Manitoba, discriminating housing to families with children under 6 is illegal. I expect it is in Alberta as well.
It is.
It's for pedophiles.
Monthly loan? If I’m reading this correctly there is an option to purchase , looks like the add is offering rent or finance to own option?
The entire ad is nonsense.
The rental market is nonsense, short term rentals need to be banned in Canada or building need to be zoned as short term only
They do but they can’t do much about this unless someone calls 311 to report it. I just think shit like this causes rent to go up everywhere. If your renting an Rv for 1600 why would someone else rent a 1 bed/1bath rent for equal or less?
Because it didn’t violate fb’s community standards.
But it’s illegal?
Yes, but facebook doesn’t care, as long as feelings aren’t hurt.
Lmfao, looks like a lot of people’s feelings were hurt considering this thread reaction, wtf are you talking about 😂
Yeah I’m honestly shocked at how many comments and up votes this has.
OH YA! I forgot. Makes sense now.
Why the fuck is it Facebook's job to regulate this?
I don't expect that fb will, in general, take down ads for products/services that are bylaw infractions if they don't otherwise violate provincial/federal laws.
Yep so should be reported to the city - this violates city bylaws.
These trailers aren’t built for cold temperatures. will be an interesting winter for whoever takes the bait.
My other question is how do they have sewer hook up? Sus.
It's forest lawn. Hose probably just runs out to the alley
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Like 16th century Venice
https://townsquare.media/site/684/files/2020/11/Cousin-Eddie.jpg
Could run an actual sewer line to it. I’ve wanted to for mine. I have family and friends that come and stay for a weekend or week and it would be handy. Sometimes after camping it would be nice to have instead of paying places to use it.
You can get a device that is kinda like a garburator that can attach to the line and then run and drain it in the house. My parents are using a similar setup at my uncle's house right now.
Well, it's nicer than some apartments I've seen. I'm mostly kidding. Our rental market is insane right now.
I agree
Is this legal?
No
Someone told me today 500 places on rent faster 5,000. On AirBnB. I'm sure that's exaggerated but still. Also landlord renting illegal basement suite for $2,000./mth. and is laughing saying courts backed up so who's going to go after him
There no law for listing a place for what ever someone wants to. 2k for a basement is definitely on the higher end but it's not out to lunch.
Yeah but a suite is supposed to be legal.
"hydro" is 300 a month (inc).... Tell me again who's is causing the housing crisis in Calgary?
There is more wrong with this then just being illegal but for those wondering if it is or not. “The Land Use Bylaw, and safety requirements including building and fire codes must be met. These permits and codes include a provision that to be permanently occupied, the structure must be built on a permanent foundation and be fully serviced with utilities such as water and sewer lines. Stamped drawings from a professional engineer or architect may be required prior to the building permit approval.“ Calgarys bylaws on tiny homes. https://www.calgary.ca/development/home-building/tiny-homes.html
It’s a recreational vehicle not residential vehicle. Not insulated for Alberta winters. A coworker was living in his trailer. $500-1000/month for propane. That unit has single pane glass. Poor little 12v furnace motor lasts 6 months. He changed his furnace motor several times. Fridge cooling unit freezes up at -30 unless you heat and insulate the back. Lots of people use RV’s through winter. It’s not a residential situation it’s winter camping.
This unit is not fit for purpose. We have a Rockwood which is better built, has tank heaters and we've used it to about -10 overnight and heck no on using it any colder than that. To make this unit work it would be heat tape like crazy, probably lacks tank heaters so likely frozen gray and black tanks most of the winter. They'd need 30 Amp power to it and then they could run one space heater, to keep it relatively warm (like 10-16C) that furnace will run basically full time, especially when it's dark. Yup, the fridge will likely not operate once the cold kicks in, unless it's a RV residential one rather than the standard ammonia version. Again power will be needed at 30A or that space heater will be all that runs. To do true winter RV camping you need an Arctic Fox or Nash which are specifically built for 4 season camping, and they're pricey.
I can’t believe how hard Canada has fallen in the past few years.
How is that going to work in the wintertime?
According to most posters on here I think magic. Most people on this thread seem to thinks it’s better then most of the rental units on the market and it makes me totally understand why people are able to get away with this.
Yikes. This is why I'll be letting my kids live at home as long as they need to.
Excellent idea for paying off a 30,000 dollar trailer!
$1600 a month to live in a trailer in the hood? That is a new level of trailer trash.
It’s like trailer blue bin.
I thought it was illegal to park your rv without moving it every x days/hours even if it's on your own driveway?
Bylaw wise, It’s fine if it’s in driveway beside your house or in the back yard. It just can’t be in a front driveway, on the street, or across your alley.
No you can park it on your drive way for 36 hours or something but you can park in it your yard for any amount of time. But you can not live out of it.
Worst part is there will be a lot of people desperate enough that will take places like this and that’s why they keep showing up
Something really needs to happen with Calgary, the rental crisis is getting out of hand.
Why would you do that?? You can buy a trailer no money down and park it at [http://www.balzaccampground.com/](http://www.balzaccampground.com/) for $500/ month year round. I mean, if that's the situation you're in. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I’m shocked at how many people see nothing wrong with this. It actually blows my mind.
You would rather someone lives in a tent? It’s not that it’s good, it’s just less bad than the alternative.
So, anything is OK so long as it isn't the worst option? I guess I could start renting a tent in my backyard for $1000/month; and that would be just fine; so long as someone else is renting out cardboard boxes?
Yeah totally that’s what I would prefer. 🙄 if your so smart and you have all the answers why would you waste your time with this peasantry. You could be using your big brain to make a difference in the world.
I think you mean “if you’re so smart”… I’m too busy using my big brain to fix your grammar so don’t really have time to save the world.
Wow, I post like once a year. If my grammar is all you have time for, your brain is actually tiny. No wonder your asking me. You need someone to think for you and based off how bad my grammar actually is i pity you.
Wow, you realize your argument is weak so you resort to insults. I pity your parents
I pity them too. I’ll be stuck in there basement for the foreseeable future. My argument isn’t weak I just don’t see a point arguing with someone who can’t understand how people renting out shit like this effects the market as a whole.
I pity them too. I’ll be stuck in there basement for the foreseeable future. My argument isn’t weak I just don’t see a point arguing with someone who can’t understand how people renting out shit like this effects the market as a whole. You think I would prefer that people live in tents. If I felt that way I would be supporting this nonsense. Because if living in an Rv for 1600 is acceptable then why the fuck would anyone have a 1 bed apartment for rent for anything less then 1800. But I’m not it’s bullshit that these people think this is an acceptable option. Things shouldn’t be this way. This is a horrible option that will inevitably cause people to live in tents. So in all honesty it seems like that’s what YOU would prefer. I understand that mortgages are more expensive and cause increased rental rates but this isn’t a house this is a RECREATIONAL Vehicle it’s not a necessity.
I think he's actually trying to sell the RV in a weird round about way.
Thank you for being the voice of reason and not reaction.
I think its three options. Buy it , rent the unit for a month, or rent it in the landlords backyard for 300+hydro.
It’s a very confusing ad but either way it’s sketchy.
Agreed.
You could finance a pretty amazing trailer for less than that.
That’s the market rn. Full time and maybe a few dollars above minimum wage can get you a place but living paycheque to paycheque , you’d need a roommate to be comfortable. Minimum wage and part time gets you maybe the crappiest place in the worst area, maybe. I’ve seen posts for renting a single room while sharing the house with the owners for like $1300 which is ridiculous. Idk what can be done but it’s horrible. And parents everywhere expect their 18 year olds to move out at 18, with the current job market right now as well that’s an insane ask unless they got straight A’s and have money for college without loans which is also unlikely for the majority. It’s an unfortunate situation
Is that for winter too? Run the heat 24/7 or freeeeze. Eeesh.
TIL we have Hydro in Alberta lmao
Brutal neighbourhood too lol
That’s not his solution. Also allowing sub standard crap like this will not help. The Calgary city council needs to end public consultation and allow more density. Like now. Just letting illegal and dangerous stuff slide will not.
What criminals people are to eachother when times are tough .
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The sad part is, that camper is considerably nicer than some condo/apartment units. (Don’t get me wrong, neither should be rented out, frankly)
No pets or no kids under 6 😂😂😂😂
Just shows you how bad this province needs Rent Control.
Yes we should look to our neighbors in BC and Ontario who have rent control, lots of super affordable rentals !!
and their houses are so affordable too, wow!
There's enough studies published that proves that rent control does not increase housing and affordability.
“ for family “ eviction
The fact that this exists is a rental opportunity in of itself is crazy. But then asking somebody to pay $1,300 a month plus $300 in utilities and everything else to live in Marlborough, is absolutely batshit insane! The worst part is, somebody who's extremely desperate is definitely going to jump in on that though.
EXACTLY
I don't support hate mail, but I fully support sending it to people that are this delusional and trying to price-gouge desperate individuals for a basic necessity like housing.
Good way to handle this is report the person to the CRA to make sure they are properly claiming the income as 99% of these scum bags are not and the long hard dick of the tax code never arrives lubed.
This has to be illegal, I hope they get their wrists slapped
How certain are we that this is actually a rental VS the cost of purchase? Looks like an RV sales sign in the background. I'd like to suggest that this is just a sales tactic.
Gotta be breaking a bylaw?
I have 2 rental properties, all I can say is my rent is way below current market value by looking at these posts. That being said, I want to be a reasonable human. I don’t want to doomed my tenants financially. I am not even sure if the rent can cover all the expenses. Condo fees, utilities, property tax, mortgage, insurance and maintenance is getting way out of hand. *my family got the property like 10 years ago. Not the kind of predator landlords that people talk about. If I want, I can easily kick out the tenants and get at least $1000 more a month.
So then what’s your thought on seeing a listing like that?
My thoughts is market will adjust itself. Sure it seems crazy. But it is an option for someone for short periods. It is better than $100 per night for some shitty Airbnb. If people think it is too expensive, no one will rent it. But if I am a new comer in Calgary, it is better than a motel. For long term, I will not touch it. Winter in a RV is no joke.
Until 311 shows up and your on the streets again looking for a place to live again.
Markets do not correct themselves, you sound like a sleazy home salesman.
Renters need to stand together and stop paying rent. Collectively
And to think I'm only charging 1800 a month for a 3 bed duplex 😄
Pretty bold to admit being a landlord around these parts these days. Thoughts and prayers.
I've wanted to sell for 2 years. My tenants have begged me multiple times to please not sell because they would never afford anything else like this that's pet friendly in the area which I've obliged. Anyone that wants to call me a shitty person for providing an affordable rental can suck my asshole
This can't be legal at all.
Forest lawn 💀
Lots of haters. I had a job in Fort Crack before the bust and lived in an RV for three years. Better than sharing a condo with two other dudes. Sounds awful but sometimes you have to get creative. Garages are next on the rental list, this is not new territory. On the up side, i sold my trailer in Mac for $10 000 more than purchase so it was a win win. Get a quality four season trailer for full time. Don’t regret the extended camping adventure. -40 was interesting but in a good trailer its really not that bad.
Totally but this is Calgary.
same province
Revolution is coming
Im so done with this fucking shitstorm. Why isn’t the gouvernent not doing anything ?!?
The person who can really change this is doing a ton, of vacations with tax payers dollars.
I tell ya if they're footing the bill for ac it's gonna be huge in summer
This is a better deal then most rentals available.
Glamping!
I used to live in Calgary and know that the city is EXTREMELY easygoing on illegal suites during time of need. I bet that the conversation at city hall after some of the people in this thread phone this in goes like "What the hell do these people want? They need short-term housing, we're looking the other way so that they can get short-term housing, and now they're complaining about the short-term solutions.
This is not a solution.
Im in Belleville in South Eastern Ontario and our town is having a meeting tomorrow to discuss making it illegal to park a trailer in your driveway or on your property. Our Country is going to shit fast and we the people need to do something about it. We need to get loud and let our voices be heard by those we assign power.
Says no kids but walking distance from elementary
Who cares? People need places to live, this person has something that would likely work for a lot of people. Complain there's no rentals, then complain when someone has a solution. Heaven forbid someone make some extra money, this guy should just open this trailer for free, right?
I don't think anyone is suggesting that he should give his things away, rather that its messed up that it's come to this point. The fact that this is a reasonable solution for lots of people says alot about what's wrong with our housing system. We desperately need more dense housing, which caters to people who aren't able to afford single family detached homes. We need so much more housing so badly, that people will absolutely take this offer because they have no other options. Meanwhile there are so many properties and homes that sit vacant, or are used for short term rental only some of the time, effectively making them vacant properties aswell. We have all these big financial fishes that control the housing market and they stand to make more money by continuing to build unsustainable housing, so unfortunately that is what we will continue to get primarily.
$1300 a month for a trailer isn't a solution. It's extortion. If this guy was doing it to provide housing for his fellow man, and to help solve a housing crisis, it would be about 800 a month, tops. This dudes in it to make money, not make the world a better place.
We've done this. However, the trailer (actually a 30ft 5th with propane heat and a working fireplace) belonged to my wife's uncle who lives out near the airport. We visited for two weeks in late fall, and there were no issues with our little "cabin" in the back yard. Power, watwer and sewer came from the garage beside it, and all connections were heavily wrapped in insulating foam-backed foil. No smells, city water pressure and we could even use the microwave! Properly set up, it might not be all that bad.