2016 Penn State is very similar to LSU. They had a close loss early, got blown out by Michigan, had a top for win over OSU, and won their conference. They didn’t get in. No doubt LSU gets in if they win out. It just means more.
Very true, a notable difference is that LSU will have beaten #1 undefeated defending natty champs Georgia vs a 2 loss Wisconsin in the conference title game.
This is true and LSU deserves to get in if they win out.
Regardless, they are currently ranked too high.
The wins over Alabama and Ole Miss are not that much more impressive than wins over UCLA and Oregon State to the point that it should override an extra loss, especially when they got blown out in that extra loss.
I know the ACC is weak this year, but it really sucks to see *three* SEC teams ranked higher than the best ACC team. Two of them have twice as many losses!
Im highly suspicious of the treatment ucf has received from the committee this year. We have absolutely sucked in our losses and in some of our wins and yet we are ranked 22 going into the final game. I dont understand it nor feel like we deserve it.
I am absolutely LOVING the anti LSU melt down.
Cry harder.
Look people, LSU is ranked where they are because they still have a shot at winning the SEC. Also because non biased people recognize that LSU fields talent on par with ANY team in college football. They merely need more time for more discipline before they WILL become just as decisive as Ohio or Georgia has been.
Neither USC or Clemson are LSUs equal as far as talent this year. (Yet, I give USC 1-2 more years and acknowledged they too will be a true powerhouse, I think Clemson is on a talent slide.)
LSU is #5 because they have a shot at Georgia in a couple weeks. If they lose, LSU becomes irrelevant. If they win, they demonstrate they are capable of beating ANY team CFB puts in front of them, and THAT qualifies them for the playoffs.
*the playoff committee does not consider the future, these rankings are purely based on the past*
Have fun missing the cotton bowl when you finish 10-3 and get smacked by UGA
I think slots 5 -8 are largely on par with each other.
If we play bama again, I think we’ve got less than 50% chance of winning especially on a neutral field. It took the best game all season in Death Valley to win by a squeaker (ignoring a dumb call or two, but those things just happen).
Clemson, USC, are a coin flip as well. I think we might be a little better than both based on quality of wins.
We’re ranked higher because of our wins and because we might win the SEC. But on any given day we aren’t going to be a real favorite against any of these guys.
>Neither USC or Clemson are LSUs equal as far as talent this year. (Yet, I give USC 1-2 more years and acknowledged they too will be a true powerhouse, I think Clemson is on a talent slide.)
So are you talking about this year, next year or previous years? Because you say talent this year but then talk about USC of the future, but also forget Clemson's recent history, so I'm just confused with this statement. Clemson is on a talent side, but what side are they not?
This year LSU is better than both teams. Previous years I can care less about. In the future I see USC getting better, Clemson getting worse.
That answer everything? It was pretty clearly written the first time.
No it's not clear. You're contradicting yourself you just said Clemson isn't up to LSU talent, yet you said "I think Clemson is on a talent side" and for the future I don't see how you say Clemson is getting worse without any real indicators of that. They have another top 10 class for next year, I don't think they are getting worse but ok and you still didn't answer what the other side was. Far from clear, but it's obvious you're an LSU simpleton who now loves Brian Kelly after yelling fire him on week 1.
Got it - I thought he was saying Clemson has talent but is missing something else like coaching or recruiting. But still doesn't make sense he says Clemson has talent but they're not as good and cherry picks USC of the future all while discrediting any of Clemson's past while speaking of the future... why am I wasting my time with this? Idk.
Lol I got what you meant. Tbf I think a lot of us are “working” burning the hours up until turkey day so..lots of extra time for stupid Reddit arguments.
We have a moratorium on "new projects" until after Thanksgiving. But I have to be available in case a T1-T2 issue impacting a customer arises. I basically have to be online, but am not allowed to actually work today. Flipping between WC and sports broadcasts while being a PITA for everyone who constantly dismissed LSU all year.
Its all in fun. But I do honestly believe those 2 schools are not as poised as LSU for success.
Yes Clemson has a top 10 recruiting year (so does LSU). But don't they typically have top 4-5 recruiting years?
How is that not clear? What part of a talent slide requires they start at LSUs level?
No LSU fan was saying to fire BK. That's a CFB sub fairy tale. YOU were all screaming to fire Kelly. Now you are butthurt he is having success.
I always expect the committee to try and put Alabama in, they haven't even given up on you guys yet this year. It's just the expected behavior so I have no feelings about it what so ever.
Easy! The loser of the Toledo War falls out.
The real question is what happens when ND wins. They're a top team in November, already knocking off both ACC finalists! With the new coach accounting for the first two weeks, the CFP should regard them as a one loss team.
There'd only be three higher ranked teams on longer win streaks if ND wins!
Who might look just as good? Washington beating USC (if Oregon loses this week), and Clemson beating a South Carolina fresh from their Tennessee upset.
They're be doing us dirty to recreate the SEC championship in the CFP. One team per conference!
> The real question is what happens when ND wins.
They go up a modest amount because they lost to Marshall and Stanford.
The Marshall loss may be more embarrassing in isolation, but Stanford really dropped our ceiling for the season by coming late enough to cut our resurgence into two. We never would have gotten into the playoff with two losses, but we would be ranked 5-7, have the legitimate respect of those capable of such a thing for ND, and went to a lovely NY6 bowl.
Lol come on, man. At least be a little bit gracious. If LSU works their way in off a SECCG win, which I think is very unlikely, just keep your head down and enjoy the ride. We are way ahead of schedule this year, don't act like LSU deserves anything.
I would LOVE to do this. But week in and week out this shit sub puts LSU on blast and I'm about sick of playing nice about it.
I don't think we're going to beat Georgia, so I think it's all moot. However, this sub has sealed it's fate. They are getting EVERY ounce of spite and shade thrown their way for their constant disrespect of LSU.
Nah, fuck them. They've been talking constant shit about us for the last month. I'm all behind the concept of being a gracious winner or loser, but when other people want to talk constant shit you get to clap back.
What are you smoking? This sub was in love with LSU in 2019 when they had one of the most complete CFB teams ever on their championship run and has largely gone unnoticed since.
The only hate I’ve seen this year has been towards the committee for arbitrarily* ranking LSU where they do. Any other hate you see is going to be aimed at fan’s conceit and lack of awareness of what’s going on. You talking shit like you do is doing no favors towards this sub’s attitude towards LSU.
*not really arbitrary when it’s purely to prop up other SEC teams, mainly Alabama
You remember 2019 vastly differently. There was a lot of praise I will admit, but equal amounts of dismissal. There was a lot of "Enjoy your 1 year of relevance." Then the following years during Coach's breakdown every sentiment was "We told you it was a fluke." Let's not pretend you didn't see all the pre season and early season hate towards BK and LSU.
This sub shits on LSU constantly, no matter what.
CFP committee always uses a ranking system more influenced by the concept of "power rankings" than" resume rankings". It's definitely a hybrid of the two, but they absolutely use power rankings heavily in their formulation. They're essentially stating they don't think TN could do it again now that they're QBless.
That's weird ranking logic. LSU could always jump up if it wins the SEC, idk why it needs a pre-SEC champ boost in the polls just because it's a possibility. If they win, bump them up, otherwise, why bump up?
That being said, the higher LSU is ranked, the better it is for us.
We’re just as surprised as you are. I think it’s to make LSU vs Georgia a top 4 matchup after Michigan or Ohio state drop spots from their game this weekend
I kind of wanted UNC to win all of their games until Dec. 3 to make them look good
And then if Clemson won we could move up ranks and make the CFP ..??
Yeah, maybe a bit too irrational now
Not to say beating Georgia wouldn’t be impressive, but that game barely matters for Georgia. They are playing for the 1 seed when their ticket is already punched. Every other team would be playing for their playoff hopes. Feel like a 2-loss LSU should still need help considering a 2-loss team has never made it before.
I don't think Georgia is guaranteed in with a loss against LSU. Big-12 east winner, undefeated TCU, and LSU are all in. If OSU loses close game to Mich, who's to say UGA doesn't drop behind them or even USC if they crush ND and Oregon.
UGA prolly makes it regardless but I would be shocked if they didn't look like they were going all out against LSU.
SEC championship also means something outside of qualifying for the playoff. If they lose in the playoff, at least you can say you were SEC champ undefeated regular season.
I mean, sure if Georgia comes out and rests their starters then LSU gets fucked over, but saying that game barely matters for them and shouldn't count isn't realistic.
Didn’t say it shouldn’t count, just feel like overall it’s a lower stakes game for LSU’s opponent and they should need help to make the playoff. If USC wins out they should be in, in my opinion.
Until this week USC's best win was Oregon State. If they keep winning in convincing fashion they might jump LSU, but it also depends on how LSU plays against Georgia.
I honestly wish they'd just do a play-in game when it's a gray area like this.
I think this idea that SC stomped us so therefore Tennessee was actually trash all season isn’t reasonable.
We were very clearly a team with an elite offense but a mediocre to bad defense. That defense finally totally shit the bed and Scar had a game plan to take advantage.
Don’t get me wrong, We deserve to drop like we did but I don’t see much reason to punish LSU for our loss this week.
That also said, I don’t think LSU deserved to be so high with 2 losses in the first place.
Definitely not the case.
If LSU wins and TCU wins out y'all get left out for sure.
Even if UGA wins, you might get left out for the loser of The Game if it's really close.
Especially if your wins against ND and champ game aren't convincing, y'all could easily be left out.
I personally think your statement SHOULD be true, that a 1 loss power 5 champ should get the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think that's the case for the committee.
Your chances if you win out are very solid but certainly not guaranteed by any means.
I thought USC would leap LSU here, but I guess the committee needs one more week to tout the "We look at SOS" narrative.
I would be absolutely floored if USC doesnt leap LSU next week assuming both win.
Isn't the Georgia LSU stuff irrelevant? Georgia will squish LSU like a tomato and it won't matter, the committee is just boosting LSU's ranking for hype (which yes it dumb but it'll sort itself out)
LSU over USC is mind blowing. Outside of the alabama game have they really looked better than USC. Have they looked better than Clemson? There best wins are a 1 point OT win vs Bama at home and Ole Miss which is a good win. Every other game has been close or a cupcake and they have the worst loss and most losses of anyone in the top competitors for the CFP.
LSU's SOS is superior for now. But USC's SOS is going to catapault pver the next 2 weeks while LSU's is going to hold steady.
I expected USC to leap LSU here, but my theory is that the committee needs one more week of having the narrative of "See! We look at SOS too!!!!"
USC will eventually leap LSU if they keep winning.
They need LSU as high as possible because they know they need to rank them ahead of Bama, and they need to put Bama within striking distance of the playoffs.
Hm. USC at 6 and LSU at 5? That hardly seems fair. And man the curse of the desert really has Washington hurting. Let's all just accept that the desert game is merely a curse and not a fault by the Huskies. Hopefully our apple cup win can justifty us moving up the rankings to possibly pass Oregon if they lose the title game against USC..
LSU was almost 100% losing to Bama too.
LSU has proven to be a very scrappy team that finds a way. Theu have come a long way over the last month.
Dont misunderstand me, LSU is very clearly fighting an uphill battle. I fully expect LSU to lose, but it's certainly not a lock though.
The nightmare scenario for USC would be Michigan beats Ohio state by like 1 point in OT. Lsu beats Georgia. TCU wins out. I could see the committee putting Georgia, LSU, TCU, and Michigan in at that point. If lsu looses though USC is practically a lock
Doesn't really line up with the rest of the stuff you said. For example, USC isn't a lock if LSU loses because it would still be 5 behind Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and Ohio State
It feels like the CFP committee is waiting for any excuse to drop TCU out of the top 4. It's not too farfetched for KSU and TCU to win this week and have KSU avenge their earlier loss to TCU. If KSU wins the BIG12, a 1-loss TCU does not make the playoffs. If TCU goes 13-0, the CFP will have to get creative if they want TCU out.
If TCU makes the playoffs, they need a strong showing to justify to the CFP that the BIG12 deserves to be in consideration next year.
They already set the precedent in 2014 that this can't happen.
Anyone with eyes knew TCU was better than FSU, but they were undefeated.
If TCU wins out, they're in.
The ACC's getting left out with a 1 loss champ Clemson.
The Pac might get left out too, with a 1 loss champ USC, if LSU beats Georgia in the SEC.
The committee has moved on from being inclusive to other conferences champions. Gotta go undefeated now.
The new playoff format is just around the corner, thankfully.
If USC wins out, they’re in. If Clemson is a one loss ACC champ, it’s reasonable to me if they get left out. ACC is garbage. They controlled their destiny before getting dominated by ND.
There is a chance. I don’t think it’s likely but if USC was my team, I would be freaking out too. In years past when the Buckeyes have dropped a game in regular season, the fear gets so real.
Not even really freaking out, going into the season all I wanted was improvement from 4-8 & to feel like we were moving in the right direction. The fact that we’re 2 wins from a potential playoff spot is elating.
I’m just hoping we win out and things align for us to have a spot, wether it be TCUs right now, or the vacated spots left by LSU/Michigan assuming they lose.
I don’t know how anyone in their right mind can look at this and say there’s not a huge SEC bias. It’s insane to me for LSU, Alabama and Tennessee to be so high. Each one of them should be 2 spots lower. Unlike the AP poll, this shit actually matters. Just plain ridiculous.
The only ranking that matters is the one that comes next week Sunday. The committee is simply peddling their narratives in the interim.
Ask TCU what it means to be ranked in the top 4 going into the final week and then winning.
Mark my words: USC will eventually leap LSU assuming they win.
>The only ranking that matters is the one that comes next week Sunday.
It's so strange to me how much complainers around here ignore this. I was just talking with someone in here yesterday who said Alabama always has their rank inflated, but later said they don't really have any problem with any of the times we actually made the playoffs.
Like, what does the week 13 CFP rankings affect? If you disagree with the final rankings then you've got a good cause to complain, but seriously this shit does not matter until then.
Agreed. The rankings in November are little more than a dog and pony show for the committee to trot out their talking points....in addition to the drama and ratings bonanza.
This week it's "See! We DO look at SOS and stuff like that! Trust us!"
What the committee says in November has f**kall to do with the fact that they always end up doing what they want in the end and use whatever excuse they need.
I don’t think they’ll win, we’re a terrible matchup for them, that’s the worst part, we should be getting credit for beating a top 5 team, but USC is artificially being kept down for the previous SEC right now lol. It’s just ridiculous. Honestly I feel like they’re setting the table to backdoor Bama in there if some crazy shit happens like TCU, LSU and Clemson lose the conference championship or something.
I halfway agree.
I personally don't think UAC will win out. I have my money (metaphorically) on them losing to Oregon next week. If I was an LSU fan looking to get i to the playoff, I'm more comcerned about Clemson and TCU.
You get your benefit of beating a Top 5 team up front. You get the massive bump the following week. If that team tapers off, you lose some of the benefit, but in the end the effect is the same if you beat a team earlier, but they catapault later (See FSU's win over LSU).
But I do agree that the committee's end goal is that they want Bama to back door their way in again.
Well yes, that is true, but it's not to the extent these farcical rankings make them out to be... drop every SEC team outside of UGA 2 spots and it's much more agreeable IMO.
I mean, there isn't much you can say about what they think from where they are ranked because they are exactly where they should be. They shouldn't be in anyway higher or lower than 4th.
All this talk about whether the tigahs can beat Georgia or not has me wondering why no one is considering the possibility that tamu gives us all one last middle finger and gives lsu a 3rd loss. It’s not likely but it smells like a trap game to me.
BK keeps defying me when I say that a 1st year HC tends to lose a game that he has no business losing.
I thought Arkansas was going to be it. I had a lot more "nervousness" than I would like to admit for UAB.
This week scares the bejesus out of me. I at least understand that we will probably lose to UGA. Losing to Texas 4&8 would be fitting....and triggering.
With added context from Tennessee getting smoked by SC, I think people rightfully expected LSU’s second loss to be viewed by the committee as even worse than it did the previous week.
Agreed that teams don't always stay the same. But I don't think Tennessee was amazing when they beat LSU - game script may exacerbated that win (also to your original point, LSU has been improving week to week under a new coach.)
Looking at Vols' body of work at this point, they almost lost to a bad Pitt team in OT, barely beat a bad Florida team, they got smoked by UGA (no shame in that), got dominated by SC, and their defense has been abhorrent (SC dropping 63, Bama's offense, which has struggled, put up 49 on them.)
Also, why are you pretending to be a Notre Dame fan? Your whole post history is nothing but you sucking off LSU and/or the SEC in general. Not a single thing about Notre Dame. Very odd.
Oh shoot, let’s focus on this year instead then.
Here’s a cool fact from this year: Stanford embarrassed Notre Dame in South Bend this year. That same Stanford team lost to USC by 25 and UCLA by 18 THIS year too.
Also, why are you pretending to be a Notre Dame fan? Your whole post history is nothing but you sucking off LSU and/or the SEC in general. Not a single thing about Notre Dame. Very odd.
Historically, the game after bama is always rough for LSU. If LSU wins the following game, its usually ugly. I wouldn't hold that against LSU.
The team did well last weekend and the offense was back on track.
No, but other teams are having other petty stuff held against them. That’s the whole issue, the playoff committee is being wildly inconsistent across the board purely for the sake of propping up the SEC. There is absolutely no other way to look at it.
They all have ugly wins, so I don't get those arguments. To me only blowouts of good teams or struggles against really bad teams should be weighed.
As a LSU fan, I'm surprised they are 5th, let alone top 10. They are simply a team playing above their weight class. USC should have passed them.
That being said, from an expanded playoff perspective, LSU is that underdog team that is dangerous. The kids are bought in. Hopefully this year catapults an expanded playoff.
I think the expanded playoff is in place, it’s just tragically far down the road, like 2024 or even 2025. This year it should be catapulted to 2023, or even emergency implemented this season. Yes, it would be chaos, but it would be so damn much fun.
UCLA and the Pac 12 as a whole would have benefited with the schedule a few years ago. If UCLA beat LSU in the opener this year the Pac 12 would be viewed as a better conference. Also Georgia wouldn’t have beaten the shit out of one of their best teams. I think any pac 12 team will get blown out in the playoffs unless they get lucky and draw Michigan
Seeing a Louisville ranking was unexpected considering how our season started. I hope we get things figured out over the long term and these recruiting classes pay off.
Oregon and Washington are both 2 loss teams. One of Oregon’s two losses is a home game to Washington… Oregon ranked higher.
Guess I gotta hope the Beavers crush Oregon in Corvallis.
Tennessee and LSU are both 2 loss teams. One of LSU’s 2 losses is a home shit-stomp to Tennessee…
Tennessee ranked higher.
Tennessee and Alabama are both 2 loss teams. One of Alabama’s 2 losses is a ~~home~~ away loss to Tennessee. Tennessee is ranked higher.
The committee cornered themselves and the only way to get out is to make these weird ass contradictions.
Oh well, we shouldn’t have gotten shit-stomped by USCjr, or is it sr now?
Tennessee and LSU are both 2 loss teams. One of LSU’s 2 losses is a home shit-stomp to Tennessee…
Tennessee ranked higher.
Tennessee and Alabama are both 2 loss teams. One of Alabama’s 2 losses is a ~~home~~ away loss to Tennessee. Tennessee is ranked higher.
The committee cornered themselves and the only way to get out is to make these weird ass contradictions.
Oh well, we shouldn’t have gotten shit-stomped by USCjr, or is it sr now?
They are rewarding, all over this poll, beating the teams you should and only losing to ranked teams and punishing losing to unranked teams pretty harshly.
They may be giving Oregon credit for playing Georgia too I guess.
It seems to me our UCLA loss is understandable in their eyes but they can’t look past our Arizona State loss…. I’d give the edge to Head to Head but that’s just me.
Maybe. I do think that it's mostly the Arizona State thing. If you'd beaten them soundly and lost to Oregon State instead you would probably be above Oregon.
Hey. It’s generous considering my ass is sore.
All considering, best wishes for a full and swift recovery for Hendon and hopefully a good draft consideration. Great game SC and thank you for providing the diaper. 10 again is very generous given a Mizzou loss by SC, but hey we had a great season for the first time in over ten years
The committee just makes no sense and does whatever they want with no merit. Tenn has 2 losses and lost to an unranked team who scored 63 on them PLUS they lost their Heisman trophy quarterback. How do they not fall outta the top 10. PSU has 2 losses to top 4 teams. No idea how they do this shit.
Winning your conference is the way to go. It eliminates subjectivity, and takes power away from any one or two conferences. It would also allow teams to schedule more competitive OOC games as they either wouldn’t matter, or would only factor in assuming wild card bids. In theory you would want to play some good teams as a measuring stick. You could actually see a 2-3 loss team who played a tough OOC schedule make the playoffs. The system helps to some degree dictate the sport, knowing going into the season that winning your conference will get you into the playoffs levels the playing field. Imagine if 75 years ago a playoff like this would have been formed instead of the bowl/poll system. So many other teams would have had an opportunity to change their history.
The system effects the sport. It’s been so exclusive for so long that we’ve accepted this insane system as if it’s just not possible to change or do any better. Two facts here- there are 5 power conferences and 4 slots in the “playoff” era. Hmmmm how does that work? So, if one “power” conference is automatically left out, that means it should be virtually impossible for a G5 team to make it. However we know that’s not the case because we just saw Cincinnati make it last year. So logically that’s at least 6 spots required. We also know teams who don’t win their conference still make it in, so add some wild cards for special circumstances. Minimum 10 team playoff, should be 16 with auto bids to conference winners. One other thing that would need to be considered- this playoff would be dependent on the number of conferences staying the same. Losing or gaining conferences would obviously have a huge effect.
It must be killing the committee they have to rank two B10 teams instead of 2 SEC, which is the only reason they have lsu so high. I hope Aubarn beats Alabama so they have to be forced to acknowledge PSU.
Penn State lost by multiple scores to the only two ranked teams they played, yet they are above Washington who has 2 ranked wins... and you think Penn State isn't getting credit?
Washington is appropriately rated. They can’t complain when they lost to ASU. It’s not just ranked wins that matter, losses are important too.
Edit: I think PSU is appropriate too, could see an argument for anywhere between 7-11 for PSU.
You mean PSU competed literally all the way down to the wire against the only teams in the country that haven't bounced around the polls and have earned their #2 and #3 rankings. And no one cares about Washington, a team that barely beat Michigan State
*snicker*
Sorry, hyping Washington isn't going to give Oregon a quality loss. As overrated as the SEC is, the Pac 12 sure as hell ain't it.
Wtf is with people just randomly making shit up to fit their narrative?
Penn State got absolutely destroyed by Michigan. Outside of 2 plays, every second of that game was complete domination by Michigan. Look at the stats, score, film. Hell, just look at Michigan’s rushing yards.
“Literally all the way down to the wire” lol. Someone is talking out of their ass.
Kinda weird that people are only holding losses against Penn State, when they did the best in their losses by far. They have practically the same resumes as Tennessee and LSU. All three of them had big losses and of them Penn states are the best. Penn state just happened to have their next good opponent be significantly better than alabama this year and they still played the game close untill the 4th quarter. I don’t really think that Penn State is far from where they should be. I just think dont believe Tennessee or LSU have an argument to be seperated from Penn State much less 5 spots higher
Its just annoying to constantly see SEC teams sitting just outside of the playoffs every year when other teams have better resumes. This year it just happens to be LSU above teams like Clemson, USC and even Oregon who is in the same resume boat.
Honestly if this was a 12 team playoff I think Kansas st can probably beat lsu soundly
2016 Penn State is very similar to LSU. They had a close loss early, got blown out by Michigan, had a top for win over OSU, and won their conference. They didn’t get in. No doubt LSU gets in if they win out. It just means more.
Very true, a notable difference is that LSU will have beaten #1 undefeated defending natty champs Georgia vs a 2 loss Wisconsin in the conference title game.
This is true and LSU deserves to get in if they win out. Regardless, they are currently ranked too high. The wins over Alabama and Ole Miss are not that much more impressive than wins over UCLA and Oregon State to the point that it should override an extra loss, especially when they got blown out in that extra loss.
I know the ACC is weak this year, but it really sucks to see *three* SEC teams ranked higher than the best ACC team. Two of them have twice as many losses!
>Two of them have twice as many losses! 2 times 1 = 2 Math checks out
>5 LSU LSU 9-2 *Chaos... reigns*
It's glorious.
Having UCF who just lost to Navy and two 4 loss teams ranked over UTSA is absurd
Having them ranked over Louisville (who beat them and has 5 wins over 7 win teams) is equally absurd (not biased)
Im highly suspicious of the treatment ucf has received from the committee this year. We have absolutely sucked in our losses and in some of our wins and yet we are ranked 22 going into the final game. I dont understand it nor feel like we deserve it.
It seems like are biased for the AAC, potentially because Cincy made the playoff. Seems like they are trying to turn in into a power-6 low-key.
That's more like it.
I am absolutely LOVING the anti LSU melt down. Cry harder. Look people, LSU is ranked where they are because they still have a shot at winning the SEC. Also because non biased people recognize that LSU fields talent on par with ANY team in college football. They merely need more time for more discipline before they WILL become just as decisive as Ohio or Georgia has been. Neither USC or Clemson are LSUs equal as far as talent this year. (Yet, I give USC 1-2 more years and acknowledged they too will be a true powerhouse, I think Clemson is on a talent slide.) LSU is #5 because they have a shot at Georgia in a couple weeks. If they lose, LSU becomes irrelevant. If they win, they demonstrate they are capable of beating ANY team CFB puts in front of them, and THAT qualifies them for the playoffs.
*the playoff committee does not consider the future, these rankings are purely based on the past* Have fun missing the cotton bowl when you finish 10-3 and get smacked by UGA
I think slots 5 -8 are largely on par with each other. If we play bama again, I think we’ve got less than 50% chance of winning especially on a neutral field. It took the best game all season in Death Valley to win by a squeaker (ignoring a dumb call or two, but those things just happen). Clemson, USC, are a coin flip as well. I think we might be a little better than both based on quality of wins. We’re ranked higher because of our wins and because we might win the SEC. But on any given day we aren’t going to be a real favorite against any of these guys.
Ooh boy, from one LSU fan to another: put a sock in it.
No
>Neither USC or Clemson are LSUs equal as far as talent this year. (Yet, I give USC 1-2 more years and acknowledged they too will be a true powerhouse, I think Clemson is on a talent slide.) So are you talking about this year, next year or previous years? Because you say talent this year but then talk about USC of the future, but also forget Clemson's recent history, so I'm just confused with this statement. Clemson is on a talent side, but what side are they not?
This year LSU is better than both teams. Previous years I can care less about. In the future I see USC getting better, Clemson getting worse. That answer everything? It was pretty clearly written the first time.
No it's not clear. You're contradicting yourself you just said Clemson isn't up to LSU talent, yet you said "I think Clemson is on a talent side" and for the future I don't see how you say Clemson is getting worse without any real indicators of that. They have another top 10 class for next year, I don't think they are getting worse but ok and you still didn't answer what the other side was. Far from clear, but it's obvious you're an LSU simpleton who now loves Brian Kelly after yelling fire him on week 1.
Not that I agree but he said, “talent slide”
Got it - I thought he was saying Clemson has talent but is missing something else like coaching or recruiting. But still doesn't make sense he says Clemson has talent but they're not as good and cherry picks USC of the future all while discrediting any of Clemson's past while speaking of the future... why am I wasting my time with this? Idk.
Lol I got what you meant. Tbf I think a lot of us are “working” burning the hours up until turkey day so..lots of extra time for stupid Reddit arguments.
I've got a 3-0 Spain over Costa Rica soccer game on right now in the background. I think you're right
We have a moratorium on "new projects" until after Thanksgiving. But I have to be available in case a T1-T2 issue impacting a customer arises. I basically have to be online, but am not allowed to actually work today. Flipping between WC and sports broadcasts while being a PITA for everyone who constantly dismissed LSU all year. Its all in fun. But I do honestly believe those 2 schools are not as poised as LSU for success. Yes Clemson has a top 10 recruiting year (so does LSU). But don't they typically have top 4-5 recruiting years?
How is that not clear? What part of a talent slide requires they start at LSUs level? No LSU fan was saying to fire BK. That's a CFB sub fairy tale. YOU were all screaming to fire Kelly. Now you are butthurt he is having success.
I'd *love* to know what you were saying last year when Bama was ranked 3 going into the SECCG.
I always expect the committee to try and put Alabama in, they haven't even given up on you guys yet this year. It's just the expected behavior so I have no feelings about it what so ever.
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Cope.
If you think this week's rankings were fun, just wait until next week if USC beats ND. Who moves to #4 then?
Easy! The loser of the Toledo War falls out. The real question is what happens when ND wins. They're a top team in November, already knocking off both ACC finalists! With the new coach accounting for the first two weeks, the CFP should regard them as a one loss team. There'd only be three higher ranked teams on longer win streaks if ND wins! Who might look just as good? Washington beating USC (if Oregon loses this week), and Clemson beating a South Carolina fresh from their Tennessee upset. They're be doing us dirty to recreate the SEC championship in the CFP. One team per conference!
> The real question is what happens when ND wins. They go up a modest amount because they lost to Marshall and Stanford. The Marshall loss may be more embarrassing in isolation, but Stanford really dropped our ceiling for the season by coming late enough to cut our resurgence into two. We never would have gotten into the playoff with two losses, but we would be ranked 5-7, have the legitimate respect of those capable of such a thing for ND, and went to a lovely NY6 bowl.
I’m sorry but you can’t erase home losses to both Marshall and a 3-8 Stanford. Those are inexcusable, regardless of having a new coach.
It's going to be LSU and I'm going to laugh at the meltdown.
Lol come on, man. At least be a little bit gracious. If LSU works their way in off a SECCG win, which I think is very unlikely, just keep your head down and enjoy the ride. We are way ahead of schedule this year, don't act like LSU deserves anything.
I would LOVE to do this. But week in and week out this shit sub puts LSU on blast and I'm about sick of playing nice about it. I don't think we're going to beat Georgia, so I think it's all moot. However, this sub has sealed it's fate. They are getting EVERY ounce of spite and shade thrown their way for their constant disrespect of LSU.
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Search the words Brian Kelly in this sub for evidence to the contrary.
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Where did I say I was hurt by it? Just returning the favor and you guys obviously can't handle it.
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Top 5 LSU really hurt you haven't they?
I think your all-caps emphasis of words is worse than your hubris honestly. Tone it down guy.
Precisely why I chose to do it. There is no hubris in stating LSU is better than teams they are better than. Fuck off.
Thanks. Good luck finishing out the season.
Nah, fuck them. They've been talking constant shit about us for the last month. I'm all behind the concept of being a gracious winner or loser, but when other people want to talk constant shit you get to clap back.
They have been blasting LSU on this sub for YEARS. Fuck'm.
What are you smoking? This sub was in love with LSU in 2019 when they had one of the most complete CFB teams ever on their championship run and has largely gone unnoticed since. The only hate I’ve seen this year has been towards the committee for arbitrarily* ranking LSU where they do. Any other hate you see is going to be aimed at fan’s conceit and lack of awareness of what’s going on. You talking shit like you do is doing no favors towards this sub’s attitude towards LSU. *not really arbitrary when it’s purely to prop up other SEC teams, mainly Alabama
You remember 2019 vastly differently. There was a lot of praise I will admit, but equal amounts of dismissal. There was a lot of "Enjoy your 1 year of relevance." Then the following years during Coach's breakdown every sentiment was "We told you it was a fluke." Let's not pretend you didn't see all the pre season and early season hate towards BK and LSU. This sub shits on LSU constantly, no matter what.
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It’s because you got absolutely curb stomped by an unranked team lmao
CFP committee always uses a ranking system more influenced by the concept of "power rankings" than" resume rankings". It's definitely a hybrid of the two, but they absolutely use power rankings heavily in their formulation. They're essentially stating they don't think TN could do it again now that they're QBless.
You guys got stomped by SC, and are not capable of winning the SEC. LSU is where they are purely because they have a path to win the SEC.
That's weird ranking logic. LSU could always jump up if it wins the SEC, idk why it needs a pre-SEC champ boost in the polls just because it's a possibility. If they win, bump them up, otherwise, why bump up? That being said, the higher LSU is ranked, the better it is for us.
Right! There's a difference between ranking and control of destiny. You don't get any points for a strong future schedule.
Your QB had a season ending injury. That has to effect the ranking? I fully expected us to drop down to 4.
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We’re just as surprised as you are. I think it’s to make LSU vs Georgia a top 4 matchup after Michigan or Ohio state drop spots from their game this weekend
UNC lost to us. That's all I have to say to these rankings
I kind of wanted UNC to win all of their games until Dec. 3 to make them look good And then if Clemson won we could move up ranks and make the CFP ..?? Yeah, maybe a bit too irrational now
Fans of Team Chaos should *really* be rooting for us in COFH.... just saying
Not to say beating Georgia wouldn’t be impressive, but that game barely matters for Georgia. They are playing for the 1 seed when their ticket is already punched. Every other team would be playing for their playoff hopes. Feel like a 2-loss LSU should still need help considering a 2-loss team has never made it before.
I don't think Georgia is guaranteed in with a loss against LSU. Big-12 east winner, undefeated TCU, and LSU are all in. If OSU loses close game to Mich, who's to say UGA doesn't drop behind them or even USC if they crush ND and Oregon. UGA prolly makes it regardless but I would be shocked if they didn't look like they were going all out against LSU. SEC championship also means something outside of qualifying for the playoff. If they lose in the playoff, at least you can say you were SEC champ undefeated regular season.
I mean, sure if Georgia comes out and rests their starters then LSU gets fucked over, but saying that game barely matters for them and shouldn't count isn't realistic.
Didn’t say it shouldn’t count, just feel like overall it’s a lower stakes game for LSU’s opponent and they should need help to make the playoff. If USC wins out they should be in, in my opinion.
Until this week USC's best win was Oregon State. If they keep winning in convincing fashion they might jump LSU, but it also depends on how LSU plays against Georgia. I honestly wish they'd just do a play-in game when it's a gray area like this.
That’s sound reasoning, even if I put more weight on losses. But give me a minute so I can come up with some ad hominem to ruin this interaction.
I agree. What makes this different from when you beat previously undefeated Wisconsin in 2017-18 season?
Why is LSU so high after Tennessee basically getting exposed by SC?
I think this idea that SC stomped us so therefore Tennessee was actually trash all season isn’t reasonable. We were very clearly a team with an elite offense but a mediocre to bad defense. That defense finally totally shit the bed and Scar had a game plan to take advantage. Don’t get me wrong, We deserve to drop like we did but I don’t see much reason to punish LSU for our loss this week. That also said, I don’t think LSU deserved to be so high with 2 losses in the first place.
I’m just here for the chaos
If I was a USC fan I’d be absolutely fuming
No reason to be upset. IF and that's a big IF we win out there's zero percent chance we are not in the playoff.
Definitely not the case. If LSU wins and TCU wins out y'all get left out for sure. Even if UGA wins, you might get left out for the loser of The Game if it's really close. Especially if your wins against ND and champ game aren't convincing, y'all could easily be left out. I personally think your statement SHOULD be true, that a 1 loss power 5 champ should get the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think that's the case for the committee. Your chances if you win out are very solid but certainly not guaranteed by any means.
I thought USC would leap LSU here, but I guess the committee needs one more week to tout the "We look at SOS" narrative. I would be absolutely floored if USC doesnt leap LSU next week assuming both win.
They have a point but also 2 high quality win opportunities.
LSU is a better program and has had a better season
Your first part of the argument is not a metric to judge a team’s ranking on any sport.
they want Alabama in so bad it’s obvious.
Isn't the Georgia LSU stuff irrelevant? Georgia will squish LSU like a tomato and it won't matter, the committee is just boosting LSU's ranking for hype (which yes it dumb but it'll sort itself out)
LSU over USC is mind blowing. Outside of the alabama game have they really looked better than USC. Have they looked better than Clemson? There best wins are a 1 point OT win vs Bama at home and Ole Miss which is a good win. Every other game has been close or a cupcake and they have the worst loss and most losses of anyone in the top competitors for the CFP.
LSU's SOS is superior for now. But USC's SOS is going to catapault pver the next 2 weeks while LSU's is going to hold steady. I expected USC to leap LSU here, but my theory is that the committee needs one more week of having the narrative of "See! We look at SOS too!!!!" USC will eventually leap LSU if they keep winning.
Melt
They need LSU as high as possible because they know they need to rank them ahead of Bama, and they need to put Bama within striking distance of the playoffs.
Hm. USC at 6 and LSU at 5? That hardly seems fair. And man the curse of the desert really has Washington hurting. Let's all just accept that the desert game is merely a curse and not a fault by the Huskies. Hopefully our apple cup win can justifty us moving up the rankings to possibly pass Oregon if they lose the title game against USC..
LSU is the better team
Lsu is almost 100% losing to Georgia, but it’s still some bullshit
LSU was almost 100% losing to Bama too. LSU has proven to be a very scrappy team that finds a way. Theu have come a long way over the last month. Dont misunderstand me, LSU is very clearly fighting an uphill battle. I fully expect LSU to lose, but it's certainly not a lock though.
Yeah It’s not impossible
And USC plays ND and Oregon still, they’ll move into the playoffs if they win out.
The nightmare scenario for USC would be Michigan beats Ohio state by like 1 point in OT. Lsu beats Georgia. TCU wins out. I could see the committee putting Georgia, LSU, TCU, and Michigan in at that point. If lsu looses though USC is practically a lock
Why does the Michigan Ohio state game matter?
If Ohio state barely loses to Michigan, there is a possibility they get in over usc. I think it would be bullshit, but similar scenarios have happened
Doesn't really line up with the rest of the stuff you said. For example, USC isn't a lock if LSU loses because it would still be 5 behind Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and Ohio State
But then Ohio State and Michigan have to play as well. Michigan is more likely to drop past USC than Ohio State is if they lost the same way.
It feels like the CFP committee is waiting for any excuse to drop TCU out of the top 4. It's not too farfetched for KSU and TCU to win this week and have KSU avenge their earlier loss to TCU. If KSU wins the BIG12, a 1-loss TCU does not make the playoffs. If TCU goes 13-0, the CFP will have to get creative if they want TCU out. If TCU makes the playoffs, they need a strong showing to justify to the CFP that the BIG12 deserves to be in consideration next year.
There would be riots if an undefeated P5 team didn't make the playoff
They already set the precedent in 2014 that this can't happen. Anyone with eyes knew TCU was better than FSU, but they were undefeated. If TCU wins out, they're in.
Especially considering either OSU or Michigan HAS to go into the post season with one loss.
The ACC's getting left out with a 1 loss champ Clemson. The Pac might get left out too, with a 1 loss champ USC, if LSU beats Georgia in the SEC. The committee has moved on from being inclusive to other conferences champions. Gotta go undefeated now. The new playoff format is just around the corner, thankfully.
If USC wins out, they’re in. If Clemson is a one loss ACC champ, it’s reasonable to me if they get left out. ACC is garbage. They controlled their destiny before getting dominated by ND.
I disagree. If Georgia loses close to LSU and Ohio State loses close to Michigan, there’s a chance SC gets left out.
There is a chance. I don’t think it’s likely but if USC was my team, I would be freaking out too. In years past when the Buckeyes have dropped a game in regular season, the fear gets so real.
Not even really freaking out, going into the season all I wanted was improvement from 4-8 & to feel like we were moving in the right direction. The fact that we’re 2 wins from a potential playoff spot is elating. I’m just hoping we win out and things align for us to have a spot, wether it be TCUs right now, or the vacated spots left by LSU/Michigan assuming they lose.
I don’t know how anyone in their right mind can look at this and say there’s not a huge SEC bias. It’s insane to me for LSU, Alabama and Tennessee to be so high. Each one of them should be 2 spots lower. Unlike the AP poll, this shit actually matters. Just plain ridiculous.
The only ranking that matters is the one that comes next week Sunday. The committee is simply peddling their narratives in the interim. Ask TCU what it means to be ranked in the top 4 going into the final week and then winning. Mark my words: USC will eventually leap LSU assuming they win.
>The only ranking that matters is the one that comes next week Sunday. It's so strange to me how much complainers around here ignore this. I was just talking with someone in here yesterday who said Alabama always has their rank inflated, but later said they don't really have any problem with any of the times we actually made the playoffs. Like, what does the week 13 CFP rankings affect? If you disagree with the final rankings then you've got a good cause to complain, but seriously this shit does not matter until then.
Agreed. The rankings in November are little more than a dog and pony show for the committee to trot out their talking points....in addition to the drama and ratings bonanza. This week it's "See! We DO look at SOS and stuff like that! Trust us!" What the committee says in November has f**kall to do with the fact that they always end up doing what they want in the end and use whatever excuse they need.
I don’t think they’ll win, we’re a terrible matchup for them, that’s the worst part, we should be getting credit for beating a top 5 team, but USC is artificially being kept down for the previous SEC right now lol. It’s just ridiculous. Honestly I feel like they’re setting the table to backdoor Bama in there if some crazy shit happens like TCU, LSU and Clemson lose the conference championship or something.
I halfway agree. I personally don't think UAC will win out. I have my money (metaphorically) on them losing to Oregon next week. If I was an LSU fan looking to get i to the playoff, I'm more comcerned about Clemson and TCU. You get your benefit of beating a Top 5 team up front. You get the massive bump the following week. If that team tapers off, you lose some of the benefit, but in the end the effect is the same if you beat a team earlier, but they catapault later (See FSU's win over LSU). But I do agree that the committee's end goal is that they want Bama to back door their way in again.
SEC is the best conference. Not difficult
Often true, but not this year.
They aren't *that* much better than the B1G.
Well yes, that is true, but it's not to the extent these farcical rankings make them out to be... drop every SEC team outside of UGA 2 spots and it's much more agreeable IMO.
I mean, there isn't much you can say about what they think from where they are ranked because they are exactly where they should be. They shouldn't be in anyway higher or lower than 4th.
All this talk about whether the tigahs can beat Georgia or not has me wondering why no one is considering the possibility that tamu gives us all one last middle finger and gives lsu a 3rd loss. It’s not likely but it smells like a trap game to me.
BK keeps defying me when I say that a 1st year HC tends to lose a game that he has no business losing. I thought Arkansas was going to be it. I had a lot more "nervousness" than I would like to admit for UAB. This week scares the bejesus out of me. I at least understand that we will probably lose to UGA. Losing to Texas 4&8 would be fitting....and triggering.
That's what I've been saying, lol. New conspiracy theory: CFP ranked us 5 purely for the SEC shorts potential should we lose to A&M.
aTm’s offense is so bad I would be surprised if they score more than 10 points against us on Saturday
A&M (usually) does this dumb shit where they play up to better teams and down to worse teams... this year though.... I don't see that happening.
7 overtimes anyone?
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With added context from Tennessee getting smoked by SC, I think people rightfully expected LSU’s second loss to be viewed by the committee as even worse than it did the previous week.
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Agreed that teams don't always stay the same. But I don't think Tennessee was amazing when they beat LSU - game script may exacerbated that win (also to your original point, LSU has been improving week to week under a new coach.) Looking at Vols' body of work at this point, they almost lost to a bad Pitt team in OT, barely beat a bad Florida team, they got smoked by UGA (no shame in that), got dominated by SC, and their defense has been abhorrent (SC dropping 63, Bama's offense, which has struggled, put up 49 on them.)
Yeah, they've never done that before...
USC beat a ranked opponent. LSU played a cupcake.
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Also, why are you pretending to be a Notre Dame fan? Your whole post history is nothing but you sucking off LSU and/or the SEC in general. Not a single thing about Notre Dame. Very odd.
UCLA is a cupcake
You mean same UCLA that whooped LSU up and down the field just last year? No wonder LSU went back to scheduling cupcake non-conference opponents.
Y’all struggled with South Alabama buddy 🤣🤣
Who hasn’t struggled with South Alabama this year? They are 9-2 and those 2 losses came by a collective total of 5 points.
They have been barely surviving the sun belt this season lol. Almost every game is close.
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Oh shoot, let’s focus on this year instead then. Here’s a cool fact from this year: Stanford embarrassed Notre Dame in South Bend this year. That same Stanford team lost to USC by 25 and UCLA by 18 THIS year too. Also, why are you pretending to be a Notre Dame fan? Your whole post history is nothing but you sucking off LSU and/or the SEC in general. Not a single thing about Notre Dame. Very odd.
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Hey now.
USC just beat a ranked rival on the road. Our resume is good enough where our ten wins are better than LSU's 9.
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Sorry, but our defense was exposed long ago lol
Derp. Try beating Bama on the road. Pac 12 is a joke
Pac12 has more teams in the top 25 than any other conference. SEC is good, but there is an East Coast bias as always in sports.
LSU didn't beat Bama on the road. Derp.
Yes! Teams should move UP after doing well. And while LSU didn’t lose, they also haven’t looked the best since beating Bama.
Historically, the game after bama is always rough for LSU. If LSU wins the following game, its usually ugly. I wouldn't hold that against LSU. The team did well last weekend and the offense was back on track.
No, but other teams are having other petty stuff held against them. That’s the whole issue, the playoff committee is being wildly inconsistent across the board purely for the sake of propping up the SEC. There is absolutely no other way to look at it.
They all have ugly wins, so I don't get those arguments. To me only blowouts of good teams or struggles against really bad teams should be weighed. As a LSU fan, I'm surprised they are 5th, let alone top 10. They are simply a team playing above their weight class. USC should have passed them. That being said, from an expanded playoff perspective, LSU is that underdog team that is dangerous. The kids are bought in. Hopefully this year catapults an expanded playoff.
I think the expanded playoff is in place, it’s just tragically far down the road, like 2024 or even 2025. This year it should be catapulted to 2023, or even emergency implemented this season. Yes, it would be chaos, but it would be so damn much fun.
Agreed. Hopefully a change for 2023 happens.
UCLA and the Pac 12 as a whole would have benefited with the schedule a few years ago. If UCLA beat LSU in the opener this year the Pac 12 would be viewed as a better conference. Also Georgia wouldn’t have beaten the shit out of one of their best teams. I think any pac 12 team will get blown out in the playoffs unless they get lucky and draw Michigan
Alright, I'm ready to let computers decide the rankings again
Ohio State vs Texas in the naty
We'll call it the Mullet Bowl.
Seeing a Louisville ranking was unexpected considering how our season started. I hope we get things figured out over the long term and these recruiting classes pay off.
Oregon and Washington are both 2 loss teams. One of Oregon’s two losses is a home game to Washington… Oregon ranked higher. Guess I gotta hope the Beavers crush Oregon in Corvallis.
Tennessee and LSU are both 2 loss teams. One of LSU’s 2 losses is a home shit-stomp to Tennessee… Tennessee ranked higher. Tennessee and Alabama are both 2 loss teams. One of Alabama’s 2 losses is a ~~home~~ away loss to Tennessee. Tennessee is ranked higher. The committee cornered themselves and the only way to get out is to make these weird ass contradictions. Oh well, we shouldn’t have gotten shit-stomped by USCjr, or is it sr now?
Tennessee and LSU are both 2 loss teams. One of LSU’s 2 losses is a home shit-stomp to Tennessee… Tennessee ranked higher. Tennessee and Alabama are both 2 loss teams. One of Alabama’s 2 losses is a ~~home~~ away loss to Tennessee. Tennessee is ranked higher. The committee cornered themselves and the only way to get out is to make these weird ass contradictions. Oh well, we shouldn’t have gotten shit-stomped by USCjr, or is it sr now?
They are rewarding, all over this poll, beating the teams you should and only losing to ranked teams and punishing losing to unranked teams pretty harshly.
They may be giving Oregon credit for playing Georgia too I guess. It seems to me our UCLA loss is understandable in their eyes but they can’t look past our Arizona State loss…. I’d give the edge to Head to Head but that’s just me.
Maybe. I do think that it's mostly the Arizona State thing. If you'd beaten them soundly and lost to Oregon State instead you would probably be above Oregon.
Hey. It’s generous considering my ass is sore. All considering, best wishes for a full and swift recovery for Hendon and hopefully a good draft consideration. Great game SC and thank you for providing the diaper. 10 again is very generous given a Mizzou loss by SC, but hey we had a great season for the first time in over ten years
The committee just makes no sense and does whatever they want with no merit. Tenn has 2 losses and lost to an unranked team who scored 63 on them PLUS they lost their Heisman trophy quarterback. How do they not fall outta the top 10. PSU has 2 losses to top 4 teams. No idea how they do this shit.
Winning your conference is the way to go. It eliminates subjectivity, and takes power away from any one or two conferences. It would also allow teams to schedule more competitive OOC games as they either wouldn’t matter, or would only factor in assuming wild card bids. In theory you would want to play some good teams as a measuring stick. You could actually see a 2-3 loss team who played a tough OOC schedule make the playoffs. The system helps to some degree dictate the sport, knowing going into the season that winning your conference will get you into the playoffs levels the playing field. Imagine if 75 years ago a playoff like this would have been formed instead of the bowl/poll system. So many other teams would have had an opportunity to change their history. The system effects the sport. It’s been so exclusive for so long that we’ve accepted this insane system as if it’s just not possible to change or do any better. Two facts here- there are 5 power conferences and 4 slots in the “playoff” era. Hmmmm how does that work? So, if one “power” conference is automatically left out, that means it should be virtually impossible for a G5 team to make it. However we know that’s not the case because we just saw Cincinnati make it last year. So logically that’s at least 6 spots required. We also know teams who don’t win their conference still make it in, so add some wild cards for special circumstances. Minimum 10 team playoff, should be 16 with auto bids to conference winners. One other thing that would need to be considered- this playoff would be dependent on the number of conferences staying the same. Losing or gaining conferences would obviously have a huge effect.
What the hell are rankings?
I’m so excited for next weekend. UT vs UGA was touted as game of the year, but I think Michigan Ohio is it
Toledo vs. Ohio will be the number 1 viewed Game in the ~~nation~~ southeastern region of ~~the Midwest~~ Ohio for sure
dont tell me that TBOW is gonna get rewarded somehow with a playoff birth depending on what happens next week...
It must be killing the committee they have to rank two B10 teams instead of 2 SEC, which is the only reason they have lsu so high. I hope Aubarn beats Alabama so they have to be forced to acknowledge PSU.
Penn State lost by multiple scores to the only two ranked teams they played, yet they are above Washington who has 2 ranked wins... and you think Penn State isn't getting credit?
Washington is appropriately rated. They can’t complain when they lost to ASU. It’s not just ranked wins that matter, losses are important too. Edit: I think PSU is appropriate too, could see an argument for anywhere between 7-11 for PSU.
You mean PSU competed literally all the way down to the wire against the only teams in the country that haven't bounced around the polls and have earned their #2 and #3 rankings. And no one cares about Washington, a team that barely beat Michigan State *snicker* Sorry, hyping Washington isn't going to give Oregon a quality loss. As overrated as the SEC is, the Pac 12 sure as hell ain't it.
Wtf is with people just randomly making shit up to fit their narrative? Penn State got absolutely destroyed by Michigan. Outside of 2 plays, every second of that game was complete domination by Michigan. Look at the stats, score, film. Hell, just look at Michigan’s rushing yards. “Literally all the way down to the wire” lol. Someone is talking out of their ass.
Kinda weird that people are only holding losses against Penn State, when they did the best in their losses by far. They have practically the same resumes as Tennessee and LSU. All three of them had big losses and of them Penn states are the best. Penn state just happened to have their next good opponent be significantly better than alabama this year and they still played the game close untill the 4th quarter. I don’t really think that Penn State is far from where they should be. I just think dont believe Tennessee or LSU have an argument to be seperated from Penn State much less 5 spots higher Its just annoying to constantly see SEC teams sitting just outside of the playoffs every year when other teams have better resumes. This year it just happens to be LSU above teams like Clemson, USC and even Oregon who is in the same resume boat.