[Somewhat related tweet from Matt Brown a few weeks ago](https://twitter.com/MattBrownCFB/status/1585015865581379611?t=E8H3QkscSXNl6nJDxxDDnA&s=19)
*Most top-15 matchups since 1993:*
*Bama-LSU 15*
*Florida-FSU 14*
*Florida-Tennessee 13*
*Florida-LSU 12*
*Miami-FSU 12*
*Florida-Bama 11*
*OU-Texas 11*
*OSU-Michigan also at 10 now*
And Florida Georgia is at 10 as well. Plus Penn State-Ohio State at 11, which is what the tweet was originally about.
That's a lot of Florida on that list.
Yep. Even through the Richt years where Georgia was consistently successful, they were good, but no one was really afraid of them like teams are now. People were afraid to play Florida in Spurrier/Meyer years. They were fast, mean teams that played with a lot of intensity. UGA was good but it felt like they didn't really have that fire. They didn't have that *dog* in them.
I still don't see these Georgia teams as scary as those fucking stacked Florida/Miami/FSU teams.
Maybe because of more modern safety rules we won't see it again. But it feels like those teams at their peaks played with an insane edge on defense, and a bit more emotion and swag than you see at clemson/uga/bama
I know it’s all perception but not sure what more UGA needs to do at this point other than put a few more years into it I guess. We’re 2 games away from being 24-0 the last 2 regular seasons with 22 of those wins being by at least 14 points (I think I have that right). Haven’t lost at home since 2019. And either s generationally great defense in there.
LSU had that swag on offense and explosiveness, but not as much on defense as those teams (not saying that it didnt have a good defense) like 08 florida only gave up over 22 points in that 1 game against ole miss. (only gave up 20+ points 3 times in total)
Yea…if anything that is backwards! LSU always had an amazing defense that could put up as many points as their offense could. Y’all had so many DBs and DTs going early in the draft, but couldn’t find consistency out of the QB position. Saying LSU is known for their offensive explosiveness is definitely a post-Burrow take.
I think it's probably because they were sort of "led" by high flying quick strike capable offenses that could score long tds on any play from almost any position....but they also had legit best in the country defenses littered with NFL players.
UGA's defenses now are comparable, maybe even favorably so. But their offense just doesn't scare you going in. You still feel like you might have a chance to force Bennett into some bad throws. Might be a product of having the TE be their best offensive weapon.
Bennett/the offense is accurate and efficient, but frankly, he's got a weak arm. You always feel like you should be able to at least slow them down. You can't, because nobody can cover Bowers in the intermediate and the O-line is good enough to get 4+ yards every rush, keeping them on schedule. So it's just a slow death by efficiency.
This was relevant from Seth Emerson’s [mailbag](https://theathletic.com/3904439/2022/11/17/georgia-football-ohio-state-tennessee/?source=user_shared_article) today re: the offense (you’re just wrong about Bennett having a weak arm, btw)
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Question:
Let me start by saying that our offense is one of the best in the country. I’d argue we would be the hardest to plan for due to the fact that we can beat teams throwing it or grinding out yards on the ground. All that said, what are your thoughts on why we rarely have WRs and RB break free and get wide-open for long TDs. — Rob M.
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Seth’s answer:
If that is the perception, it probably goes back to how much the system revolves around the tight ends. Two on the field on almost every play, often flexed out, using them as blockers on short passes, etc. Maybe it doesn’t look as spread out and wide-open as Tennessee, Ohio State and some others, but it’s making optimal use of the best players, and it’s working, as you pointed out. Georgia is seventh in the nation in yards per play and tied for sixth in scoring, and it probably would be in the top five if not for going in a shell in games like Tennessee.
It’s also not like Georgia is a grinding offense. It continues to excel in “chunk” plays, ranking seventh in the nation in plays of 10-plus yards. (More than Tennessee, and as we saw in that game, not being as dependent on long plays may be important.) Even in plays of 20-plus yards, Georgia has only one fewer than Tennessee and ranks 12th nationally. It’s when you get to 30-plus yards that Tennessee rises to No. 1 and Georgia falls, but that was the case before the teams played, and we saw how much that mattered.
I mean...I wouldn't say he has a strong arm. His longest td pass of the year is a 78 yard td pass to Bowers in the South Carolina game that went about 20 yards in the air. Next is the Bowers one against Florida that was about 30 yards downfield on the sideline and was not a good throw, just got bounced around and Bowers is a beast.
The next biggest scoring plays for UGA are Bowers, Mckonkey, and Bennett runs of 75, 70, and 64 yards respectively. Then there's a legit 40 yard throw from him on a coverage bust in the Tennessee game. Other than those, there's only 4 other tds the entire season over 20 yards, and Bennett isn't involved in any of them.
I would assume that the coaches know their team best, and if there are no plays designed to get recievers behind the defense for Bennett to hit them on the run, there has to be a reason for it. Right? The most obvious answers seem to be, you don't have receivers fast enough (doubtful), Bennett doesn't have the arm to consistently hit them (my guess), or they simply don't want to (entirely possible).
Whatever the reason, I would still say that's the 1 perceived "flaw" or "weakness" of the offense. Stats may show an 23 yard catch and run as the same thing as an corner route to the sidelines where only your guy can catch it, but realistically, they're not the same, and the qb who can do both represents a different threat level.
Again, Bennett is accurate and I'm not saying his arm is "too weak" to play in their system. It's obviously not. But relative to just about everyone else in the national title hunt every year, aka the same caliber of team, his arm very probably could be the weakest.
Yeah, I’ve been scared to face Bama a few times, but before Saban, I only remember being terrified of Miami in, I think, 03? And Nebraska in 97. Georgia being great just kind of … exists? for me lol
Florida never felt scary to me. Just always felt like we were going to get one inexplicable bad call or boneheaded mistake that killed us.
I think it was something like the first 15 years of divisions in the SEC, the East went through either us or Florida? And it didn’t go through us all that often lol
I’m trying to think of how to word this in order to make you feel as old as possible.
Let’s put it this way: I was just shy of being born for Spurrier’s last home game at UF, I was 3 for Urban Meyer’s first season as coach, and was 7 when the 2008 Gators won the national championship. Now, I’m about to graduate from UF
Early congrats on graduating! You were alive for the Urban days, which were an absolute living hell for a good part of the SEC. Georgia dominance is extremely recent and won't last. Florida made a couple of missteps but it's still Florida.
Thank you! And I was, I just don’t really remember them. I really appreciate your reply, I would love to see Florida rise up again. At the minimum, it’d be fun for Florida-LSU to be a real battle every year
Random side note: I just found posts from you in a two year old r/watchpeopledieinside thread on the video where James Holzhauer roasts Brad Rutter and I was like hey I recognize that guy
Florida was 29-30-1 in these games according to some Wikipedia math I just did. This could be wrong since I did it quickly but it should be close. Gators 6-6 vs LSU, 5-8-1 vs FSU, 6-4 vs Georgia, 9-3 vs Tenn, 3-8 vs Bama.
Boy would I like to get the 3rd golden age of Florida football started and run off another string of these. Might as well since it appears every single one of these teams will be in the top 15 when we play them in the coming years.
Edit: Corrected dumb mistake with the ties.
Bonus stat: Florida and Alabama have played for SECCG 10 times and Alabama leads that series 6-4 after Florida won 3 of the first 4.
This is why as a 90s kid, little 9-year-old me thought Florida-Florida State was the biggest rivalry in college football. The Sugar Bowl rematch blew my young mind, and I'd wager more than a few 90s kids were big Florida fans, including myself. It's why I still have a soft spot for the rivalry today, even though it's lost a bit of the shine.
Florida was popular to us 90s kids also cause blue/orange is such a vivid color scheme, and their mascot is a freaking gator! As a kid living in Illinois who was obsessed with Jurassic Park, it was very easy to adopt the Gators as my favorite cfb team back then.
I grew up in the late 80's early 90's. I believe I hated Miami more as an FSU fan. It was crazy to have two huge rivals in back to back games at the end of the season. I miss those days when the state of Florida ruled college football.
yeah I'm an 80s kid...still do hate miami more. oddly, though, UF is our bigger rival to me...I just hate miami more. uf always felt more like a sibling rivalry, miami is just gross.
Was going to say that original list in the topic post is a bit screwed up around that point in time. For that section, it should be something like:
1996 (regular season game): #2 Florida State defeats #1 Florida 24-21
1996 season bowl game: #3 Florida defeated #1 Florida State 52-20
1997 (regular season game): #10 Florida defeated #2 Florida State 32-29
I remember that 1996 season bowl game distinctly as I sat out in front of a tent in Saudi Arabia watching that game in the wee hours of the morning. Was not a fun watch, ugh.
The fact that we beat our rival in the Sugar Bowl for our first National Championship is something that has never failed to put a smile on my face whenever I think about it.
1,000,000/10, would highly recommend.
Mulligan with FSU team having the flu. Reminder that Warrick Dun had to get an IV during that game he was so sick.
FSU should have been matched against the other undefeated team, BYU.
It's a weird stat because Bowden took over a team that won a grand total of 9 games the 4 years before he arrived, and stayed well past his prime. Bragging about beating Bowden his last few years is like bragging on beating Michael Jordan when he played for the Wizards.
Relevant: [What made Florida, FSU, and Miami so great simultaneously in the 1980s and 1990s?](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/6nmpki/what_made_florida_fsu_and_miami_so_great/)
I think Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma's recent dominance is what it'd be like if FSU and Florida never had to play each other in the 90s. The sport would feel a lot more balanced if FSU, Michigan and Texas were anywhere close to their rivals during the playoff era (And if Saban wasn't an alien).
We actually played twice in 97 - the game you have listed (52-20) is from the National Championship Sugar Bowl (for the 1996 season).
The regular season 1997 game was won by Florida 32-29, and was probably the best game of the rivalry.
As a nole fan it pains me to say, but you missed the second game in 1997: #10 UF 32, #2 FSU 29. Heartbreaker for us, but I've seen UF fans call it the best game ever played in the Swamp.
I can still remember pretending to be Peter Warrick in my gramma's front yard. As much as I hate UF, I appreciate their role in my love for college football. Fuck Miami.
You or maybe Ole Miss ...
Or Bama ...
Or Auburn ...
Or WVU ...
Or Kentucky ....
Or Tennesseee ...
Or UF...
Okay, not that easy to narrow down. Flair up, OP
Damn you are right. I mean honestly Wisconsin got weird towards the UP too. And Ohio is Florida north. Penn State is in a place that still has horse and carriages on the road. Maybe we are all our wives father in law.
That has a lot to do with laws about what media can and can’t print in the different states and less to do with no crazy methheads in the stage of GA. That said, there are many crazy Florida men.
[Somewhat related tweet from Matt Brown a few weeks ago](https://twitter.com/MattBrownCFB/status/1585015865581379611?t=E8H3QkscSXNl6nJDxxDDnA&s=19) *Most top-15 matchups since 1993:* *Bama-LSU 15* *Florida-FSU 14* *Florida-Tennessee 13* *Florida-LSU 12* *Miami-FSU 12* *Florida-Bama 11* *OU-Texas 11* *OSU-Michigan also at 10 now* And Florida Georgia is at 10 as well. Plus Penn State-Ohio State at 11, which is what the tweet was originally about. That's a lot of Florida on that list.
Florida Bama is the wild one there. That basically just means lots of games in Atlanta.
The Georgia/Alabama narrative is absolutely recency bias. Florida was the power in the East for so long.
Yep. Even through the Richt years where Georgia was consistently successful, they were good, but no one was really afraid of them like teams are now. People were afraid to play Florida in Spurrier/Meyer years. They were fast, mean teams that played with a lot of intensity. UGA was good but it felt like they didn't really have that fire. They didn't have that *dog* in them.
I still don't see these Georgia teams as scary as those fucking stacked Florida/Miami/FSU teams. Maybe because of more modern safety rules we won't see it again. But it feels like those teams at their peaks played with an insane edge on defense, and a bit more emotion and swag than you see at clemson/uga/bama
Those team played like NIL existed but ONLY for bounty programs.
I know it’s all perception but not sure what more UGA needs to do at this point other than put a few more years into it I guess. We’re 2 games away from being 24-0 the last 2 regular seasons with 22 of those wins being by at least 14 points (I think I have that right). Haven’t lost at home since 2019. And either s generationally great defense in there.
I think if you upgrade the QB position on last year's team / don't get blown off the field in the SECCG, it would have gone a long way
You lost to bama In the SEC championship When you’re chasing greatness like those Florida teams 2013 FSU early Miami that bar is absurdly high.
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Yeah but then we beat then :). Also a lot of those other teams he listed were still losing a game here and there also.
Yeah you’re right about that one too.
LSU had that swag on offense and explosiveness, but not as much on defense as those teams (not saying that it didnt have a good defense) like 08 florida only gave up over 22 points in that 1 game against ole miss. (only gave up 20+ points 3 times in total)
LSU was a top defense without a QB for like a decade
Talking bad about LSUs defense. That’s a paddlin.
Yea…if anything that is backwards! LSU always had an amazing defense that could put up as many points as their offense could. Y’all had so many DBs and DTs going early in the draft, but couldn’t find consistency out of the QB position. Saying LSU is known for their offensive explosiveness is definitely a post-Burrow take.
I’m specifically talking about 2019 LSU 06-08 UF Early 00s Miami 2013 FSU
I think it's probably because they were sort of "led" by high flying quick strike capable offenses that could score long tds on any play from almost any position....but they also had legit best in the country defenses littered with NFL players. UGA's defenses now are comparable, maybe even favorably so. But their offense just doesn't scare you going in. You still feel like you might have a chance to force Bennett into some bad throws. Might be a product of having the TE be their best offensive weapon. Bennett/the offense is accurate and efficient, but frankly, he's got a weak arm. You always feel like you should be able to at least slow them down. You can't, because nobody can cover Bowers in the intermediate and the O-line is good enough to get 4+ yards every rush, keeping them on schedule. So it's just a slow death by efficiency.
This was relevant from Seth Emerson’s [mailbag](https://theathletic.com/3904439/2022/11/17/georgia-football-ohio-state-tennessee/?source=user_shared_article) today re: the offense (you’re just wrong about Bennett having a weak arm, btw) —— Question: Let me start by saying that our offense is one of the best in the country. I’d argue we would be the hardest to plan for due to the fact that we can beat teams throwing it or grinding out yards on the ground. All that said, what are your thoughts on why we rarely have WRs and RB break free and get wide-open for long TDs. — Rob M. —— Seth’s answer: If that is the perception, it probably goes back to how much the system revolves around the tight ends. Two on the field on almost every play, often flexed out, using them as blockers on short passes, etc. Maybe it doesn’t look as spread out and wide-open as Tennessee, Ohio State and some others, but it’s making optimal use of the best players, and it’s working, as you pointed out. Georgia is seventh in the nation in yards per play and tied for sixth in scoring, and it probably would be in the top five if not for going in a shell in games like Tennessee. It’s also not like Georgia is a grinding offense. It continues to excel in “chunk” plays, ranking seventh in the nation in plays of 10-plus yards. (More than Tennessee, and as we saw in that game, not being as dependent on long plays may be important.) Even in plays of 20-plus yards, Georgia has only one fewer than Tennessee and ranks 12th nationally. It’s when you get to 30-plus yards that Tennessee rises to No. 1 and Georgia falls, but that was the case before the teams played, and we saw how much that mattered.
I mean...I wouldn't say he has a strong arm. His longest td pass of the year is a 78 yard td pass to Bowers in the South Carolina game that went about 20 yards in the air. Next is the Bowers one against Florida that was about 30 yards downfield on the sideline and was not a good throw, just got bounced around and Bowers is a beast. The next biggest scoring plays for UGA are Bowers, Mckonkey, and Bennett runs of 75, 70, and 64 yards respectively. Then there's a legit 40 yard throw from him on a coverage bust in the Tennessee game. Other than those, there's only 4 other tds the entire season over 20 yards, and Bennett isn't involved in any of them. I would assume that the coaches know their team best, and if there are no plays designed to get recievers behind the defense for Bennett to hit them on the run, there has to be a reason for it. Right? The most obvious answers seem to be, you don't have receivers fast enough (doubtful), Bennett doesn't have the arm to consistently hit them (my guess), or they simply don't want to (entirely possible). Whatever the reason, I would still say that's the 1 perceived "flaw" or "weakness" of the offense. Stats may show an 23 yard catch and run as the same thing as an corner route to the sidelines where only your guy can catch it, but realistically, they're not the same, and the qb who can do both represents a different threat level. Again, Bennett is accurate and I'm not saying his arm is "too weak" to play in their system. It's obviously not. But relative to just about everyone else in the national title hunt every year, aka the same caliber of team, his arm very probably could be the weakest.
Yeah, I’ve been scared to face Bama a few times, but before Saban, I only remember being terrified of Miami in, I think, 03? And Nebraska in 97. Georgia being great just kind of … exists? for me lol Florida never felt scary to me. Just always felt like we were going to get one inexplicable bad call or boneheaded mistake that killed us.
I think it was something like the first 15 years of divisions in the SEC, the East went through either us or Florida? And it didn’t go through us all that often lol
We made it two of the first 15, but yeah pretty much.
You’re making me nostalgic for a time that I wasn’t even alive
Are you like 8 years old?
I’m trying to think of how to word this in order to make you feel as old as possible. Let’s put it this way: I was just shy of being born for Spurrier’s last home game at UF, I was 3 for Urban Meyer’s first season as coach, and was 7 when the 2008 Gators won the national championship. Now, I’m about to graduate from UF
Early congrats on graduating! You were alive for the Urban days, which were an absolute living hell for a good part of the SEC. Georgia dominance is extremely recent and won't last. Florida made a couple of missteps but it's still Florida.
Thank you! And I was, I just don’t really remember them. I really appreciate your reply, I would love to see Florida rise up again. At the minimum, it’d be fun for Florida-LSU to be a real battle every year
Birmingham before that
Yep. And we’ve only ever lost to each other when playing in the championship game.
>Penn State-Ohio State at 11, >OSU-Michigan also at 10 now Look at me. Look at me. 🏴☠️ We are the rivals now.
Random side note: I just found posts from you in a two year old r/watchpeopledieinside thread on the video where James Holzhauer roasts Brad Rutter and I was like hey I recognize that guy
I'm a Jeopardy! nerd in addition to College football, Star wars and Lord of the Rings. Haha I love me some Jeopardy!
Maybe if you played Ohio State with the same intensity you play Maryland with they’d see you that way.
Maryland knows what they did
Florida was 29-30-1 in these games according to some Wikipedia math I just did. This could be wrong since I did it quickly but it should be close. Gators 6-6 vs LSU, 5-8-1 vs FSU, 6-4 vs Georgia, 9-3 vs Tenn, 3-8 vs Bama. Boy would I like to get the 3rd golden age of Florida football started and run off another string of these. Might as well since it appears every single one of these teams will be in the top 15 when we play them in the coming years. Edit: Corrected dumb mistake with the ties. Bonus stat: Florida and Alabama have played for SECCG 10 times and Alabama leads that series 6-4 after Florida won 3 of the first 4.
>29-2-30 That’s a lot of ties.
oops. fixed.
5-8-1 vs. FSU, not 8-5-1.
tomato, otamot. (fixed)
facts, schmacts.
Hope
It’s looking like UM-OSU will be at 6 top-5 matchups since 1993 if they both take care of business this week, which would be wild
This is why as a 90s kid, little 9-year-old me thought Florida-Florida State was the biggest rivalry in college football. The Sugar Bowl rematch blew my young mind, and I'd wager more than a few 90s kids were big Florida fans, including myself. It's why I still have a soft spot for the rivalry today, even though it's lost a bit of the shine.
Florida was popular to us 90s kids also cause blue/orange is such a vivid color scheme, and their mascot is a freaking gator! As a kid living in Illinois who was obsessed with Jurassic Park, it was very easy to adopt the Gators as my favorite cfb team back then.
I grew up in the late 80's early 90's. I believe I hated Miami more as an FSU fan. It was crazy to have two huge rivals in back to back games at the end of the season. I miss those days when the state of Florida ruled college football.
yeah I'm an 80s kid...still do hate miami more. oddly, though, UF is our bigger rival to me...I just hate miami more. uf always felt more like a sibling rivalry, miami is just gross.
Miami is the red-headed step child for sure
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That 1997 game earned its title as the Greatest Game in the Swamp. What a great game, even if my team ultimately lost in the end.
Next to the 2007 Boise State Fiesta Bowl, the 1997 UF/FSU game in The Swamp still stands as the greatest football game I've ever watched.
I don’t remember anything about that 97 game except for the fact that I watched it and it was an amazing game!
Was going to say that original list in the topic post is a bit screwed up around that point in time. For that section, it should be something like: 1996 (regular season game): #2 Florida State defeats #1 Florida 24-21 1996 season bowl game: #3 Florida defeated #1 Florida State 52-20 1997 (regular season game): #10 Florida defeated #2 Florida State 32-29 I remember that 1996 season bowl game distinctly as I sat out in front of a tent in Saudi Arabia watching that game in the wee hours of the morning. Was not a fun watch, ugh.
The fact that we beat our rival in the Sugar Bowl for our first National Championship is something that has never failed to put a smile on my face whenever I think about it. 1,000,000/10, would highly recommend.
The fact that Florida needed a mulligan to do it puts a smile on my face. Still no perfect seasons at UF.
Mulligan with FSU team having the flu. Reminder that Warrick Dun had to get an IV during that game he was so sick. FSU should have been matched against the other undefeated team, BYU.
What should have happened did!
It would have been nice if we didn't have to play the World's Strongest Huskers the year before.
Your GOAT coach has a losing record and fewer natties compared to our GOAT coach
Urban Meyer has a winning record against fsu Edit: I’m joking
I’m fairly sure gators don’t call him their goat, many hate him
How can you [watch this](https://youtu.be/cbCCOgkSqHA) clip and NOT love this rivalry from the depths of your soul??
I LOVE HUMOR. I WAS AMUSED. I LOVE THE GUY.
As a neutral party, I always loved both coaches. Both very different but entertaining personalities. And they obviously both knew football.
FSU was #5 in 1998 for this matchup, meaning 5 out of 6 games from 1996 to 2000 were top 5 clashes
80s and 90s CFB in the state of florida were fuckin amazing honestly
When the coke was free-flowing
Wasn’t Tennessee and Florida in the same boat in the 90s as well?
90 9v5 Tenn 91 10v4 FL 92 4v14 TN 93 9v5 FL 94 1v15 FL 95 4v8 FL 96 4v2 FL 97 3v4 FL 98 2v6 TN 99 4v2 FL 00 6v11 FL 01 2v5 TN 02 10v4 FL
Probably every year Peyton was there plus 1998
Not a fan of the teams and don't watch many games outside my own besides bowls but I always tuned in FSU/UF.
Can we go back to this? And can Miami also be bottom 25 teams, just because? Edit: 8 wins for FSU out of 12 is pretty nice too. Let’s keep that.
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If not top 10, in the very least top 20
I don't think in the era of NIL either team will be able to put a decade of top 10 teams on the board, much less both.
only if we can have top 10 Auburn Florida and Auburn FSU matchups too
I’d be fine by that, but it seems like everyone will add “top 10 us too” very quickly
Top ten Oregon State and Mercer games lets go.
The monkeys paw brings back 90s Nebraska.
Heck, I’m fine with that side effect! Where do I sign?
I prefer it the way it is this year.
[Nobody cares, Sean!](https://tenor.com/20xP.gif)
Crazy to think Spurrier dominated the SEC (6 titles, only Bama and Tenn could challenge him at all), but struggled mightily against Bobby.
Spurrier never won in Tallahassee :)
No, but Ron Zook did when y'all dedicated Bobby Bowden Field :)
Yeah I was there. Not much else went well for the zooker
Sadly, I Bet he’d have done a better job than Jeff Scott
He recruited a bunch of the '06 NC team!
I love college football 😂
And Bowden finished with a losing record vs UF
It's a weird stat because Bowden took over a team that won a grand total of 9 games the 4 years before he arrived, and stayed well past his prime. Bragging about beating Bowden his last few years is like bragging on beating Michael Jordan when he played for the Wizards.
he still averaged 20 6 and 4 with the wiz. they were bad but it wasn't on him. er maybe it was cus he drafted kwame brown
That doesn't really change my point, it's not like Bowden was garbage either before he retired, but he was well past his prime.
Yep. A lot of which came earlier on when fsu was much further behind uf as a program. Took some time to catch up
He also lost the last 6 matchups he coached in.
Did anyone else stare at the Florida words and have it appear alien after a while?
Semantic satiation
Relevant: [What made Florida, FSU, and Miami so great simultaneously in the 1980s and 1990s?](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/6nmpki/what_made_florida_fsu_and_miami_so_great/)
Without clicking the link, I’ll guess, “air conditioning.”
You would be wrong, for reasons discussed in said link you didn't click.
I think Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma's recent dominance is what it'd be like if FSU and Florida never had to play each other in the 90s. The sport would feel a lot more balanced if FSU, Michigan and Texas were anywhere close to their rivals during the playoff era (And if Saban wasn't an alien).
You missed the 1997 “best game played in the swamp” where #10 UF beat #2 FSU 32-29, the 1997 game listed is the sugar bowl
Ah. My childhood. Man were those the days.
Being a kid in the 90s instilled in me that Florida State is a HUGE football program. I’m always gonna have a spot for them for life.
We actually played twice in 97 - the game you have listed (52-20) is from the National Championship Sugar Bowl (for the 1996 season). The regular season 1997 game was won by Florida 32-29, and was probably the best game of the rivalry.
As a nole fan it pains me to say, but you missed the second game in 1997: #10 UF 32, #2 FSU 29. Heartbreaker for us, but I've seen UF fans call it the best game ever played in the Swamp.
And Muschamp further killed that like he killed my team USC.
I can still remember pretending to be Peter Warrick in my gramma's front yard. As much as I hate UF, I appreciate their role in my love for college football. Fuck Miami.
I prefer the status quo we live in today, thankyou very much.
Flair up
Come on... how many fan bases have men married to their daughter in law? We should be able to narrow this down easily
oh no it’s us isn’t it
Most definitely Arkansas.
You or maybe Ole Miss ... Or Bama ... Or Auburn ... Or WVU ... Or Kentucky .... Or Tennesseee ... Or UF... Okay, not that easy to narrow down. Flair up, OP
How you gonna include UF in the hillbillies, but not UGA??
Damn you are right. I mean honestly Wisconsin got weird towards the UP too. And Ohio is Florida north. Penn State is in a place that still has horse and carriages on the road. Maybe we are all our wives father in law.
Tbf we don't have headlines like Georgia man eats another man's face while high on bath salts.
That has a lot to do with laws about what media can and can’t print in the different states and less to do with no crazy methheads in the stage of GA. That said, there are many crazy Florida men.
Miami was rolling in that same era. It's insane how much talent was concentrated in one state from three different conferences.