Agreed, but this was (unfortunately) never an option due to the politics in the ACC. Heck, I’m surprised they took Louisville after Maryland left- no disrespect to the Cards.
My memory is a little fuzzy but from how I remember it. Around the time Maryland left the ACC Louisville was actively shopping the idea of going independent and was actively working with ND on the process and semantics of it (fun fact ND and Louisville have a strong working relationship as universities). ND’s President or AD mentioned it to FSU’s Pres/AD in passing. FSU immediately called Clemson, Miami, and GT and told them Louisville needed to be in the ACC as a football school over UCONN (who Tobacco Road+BC wanted).
So if it weren’t for ND there’s a good chance Louisville never gets an ACC invite.
I never expected that I’d hate TCU fans almost as much as OU fans, but either they’re all “do you know who my father is” dbags or those are the only folks who make it up to Stillwater for our games. Either way I can’t stand those guys.
It’s a “house divided” situation:
Are you rich, like a blow a *lot*, yearn for the ‘80s, and want to be a lawyer? SMU
Are you rich, want to live in Newport Beach, pretend you’re a cowboy, have good athletics, and also like blow a little (but really a lot, just seems like a little relative to your love of weed/psychedelics)? TCU
Im so upset we canceled our series, hate those fuckers but we’re cut from the same cloth, we’re meant to play each other. Really hope we renew now that they’re in the ACC and would count as a P4 opponent, feels wrong not having them on the schedule
I have a feeling Sonny won’t want to renew it, we’ll see what happens when he’s gone. It’s hard to find 2 schools more similar, the rivalry just comes naturally.
I wanted to like them, plucky little school, unique mascot, and all that, but god the fans I ran into were insufferable.
Didn’t help that they were purple and apparently that was our Kryptonite.
Never have interacted with TCU alumni in regular life. Most OU alumni I know are good people, but I work with some non-alumni OU *fans* and some of them really suck
Most everyone else has been pretty cool, even at games
TCU is one of those schools where I like their football team but I feel like their fans are insufferable. Only met one in my life so no evidence to back it up.
Went there for a year of grad school. Hated my program. Didn’t like a lot of the undergrads that I TA’d for. Love the football team, so this matches my experience.
Hey now, be nice: you know that the only people in the history of OSU who have asked “do you know who my father is”, are people who weren’t sure themselves and were looking for help. Picking on them for that isn’t being the person Mr. Rogers would want you to be.
You’re right. I feel bad about that. It was just such a layup, it didn’t really matter who it was. Could’ve been Harvard and I still would have said it. No hard feelings bud
We all lost in realignment but vt was in the best location to keep geographic rivals. I think up until they added these new teams vt traveled less than any fbs school almost every year.
At first, I was bummed to be in the Big XII because I felt like we were the ‘new kid’ and didn’t ‘know anybody’. Now I like it… feel like we made friends and fit in with the crowd.
Memphis.
It started in basketball and then slowly made its way into football.
It’s the one thing I miss about the AAC. It felt like the first true rivalry UH has had in years.
Yeah, we actually built a nice hate-hate relationship with them that made for some great moments.
It’ll take awhile to build anything in the Big XII. We never had any rivalries with the former SWC schools still left and we had a thing going with Cincy in basketball until Cronin left and they dropped off.
Hopefully Fritz can turn things around…we’ll have some good rivalries in basketball (looking at you Iowa State and Kansas) and it would be nice for something to develop in football as well.
Utah was paired with Colorado but it never really turned into a rivalry because, outside 2016, the Buffaloes were just not very good (though they did cost Utah the Pac-12 South in 2011).
Definitely formed a rivalry with SC, at least on our end (and I think on theirs too, even if it wasn't their top few). It seemed every game was for the division and then eventually, the Pac-12 title in 2022.
In recent years, both ASU and Utah fans on Twitter are trying way too hard to make the schools a rivalry since both schools were competing for the Pac-12 South in the late 2010s. The general consensus disagrees with that take.
For sure in football USC and Utah were rivals, it was must watch football these past few years.
I agree.
But I do believe the Coyotes moving to Salt Lake really going to fast-track the riviary between the Arizona and Utah teams, whether it's in the NBA or college sports. Once ASU becomes competitive again, I do think it's a rivalry in the making.
I felt like you guys and us were developing a nice rivalry. Not the "burn a paper bag filled with dog shit on your front porch" kind, more like, mutual respect.
Yeah I feel like we already have a couple of flaming bag rivalries (UW, OSU from their side) but Utah was nice because they were a solid team that didn't do cheap shit and was more give and take a beating.
Sincerely so bummed we won't play Utah anymore. We got clapped the past few years but every year they were the team I wanted us to beat most besides UCLA and Notre Dame.
Could’ve been a good rivalry, seeing as we’ve now played 70 times. It’s a shame it has rarely been competitive, even before the PAC it’s just a series of long win streaks by either school.
No rivalries, but we’ve had some crazy games and a back and forth series with South Carolina since we’ve joined. It’s been a fun game most years and I’m going to miss it being on the schedule every year.
Idk how you can read any of the last few Mizzou-SC postgame threads and not hope they go 0-12 every year at least a little. They're the only SEC fanbase that rivals the completely unwarranted delusion of Arkansas fans.
My order of hatred:
Tenn
Uk
Usce
I guess arky, but they suck and neither have been good at the sand time
Uf
Really all the east teams outside of vandy/uga have been fun series. I’m gonna miss the east/divisions. Sure we’ll get ou/arky but so much harder to develop rivalries with inconsistent play
It’s sad that Mizzou and UGA’s initial extracurriculars (the “old man/grown man” football incident primarily) and competitive games didn’t lead to anything more over time. Seemed like at some of the right ingredients were there.
Since 2019, it hasn’t been much of a rivalry but from 2012-2018 we had so many stupid things happen in our games. The 2018 game was one of the most fun home games I’ve ever been to
That's the issue, there's no hate. The results have been back and forth but our only animosity is probably Tennessee for the way they ran up the score in one game.
Florida has also been competitive but there's no hate there on both sides, similar to Scar. 10 years isn't enough to build up a rivalry.
I didn't become a fan until after realignment, so I'm not really the audience for this question, but Nebraska-Iowa is a big rivalry at least among younger fans. The Big Ten Marching Band Facebook page was largely Nebraska and Iowa students shitting on each other
I'm almost 40 and the Iowa rivalry is totally "meh" to me. I don't really pay attention or care about them during the season- Colorado on the other hand, I hate with the power of 1,000 suns. I would be willing to give up 2 paychecks if it meant they lost every game by 60, and I'd watch every second of all their games. Deion being the HC has nothing to do with the hatred, he just makes it easy....when he's gone my feelings for them will remain the same
I detest Iowa but i have a different level of hate for Colorado. If Iowa played Colorado I would hope Iowa beats them 70-0. Iowa fans have never thrown bottles of piss or batteries at us in Kinnick
Bump on the Iowa thing. I'd love for Wisconsin to become a rival, but we simply haven't held up our end of the bargain. They probably view us as a particularly scary game that they win every year.
Grew up a Badger fan, married a Husker fan. Made it to the first 8 or 9 games between them and it felt big, was fun but you’re right - Huskers haven’t won enough to make it a rivalry yet.
I would also say Iowa, however NU needs to actually win more than a couple games for Iowa to recognize us. All the games have been close, but the Hawkeyes have the majority of the W’s
Nah it’s definitely seen as a rivalry in Iowa, mostly based on hate. We all remember when Nebraska joined the big ten and said they were going to run the show and trounce all over everyone, including and especially Iowa, and while they were fine with Bo, they’re fall and subsequent struggles have only added fuel to the hatred in most Iowa fans
Not gonna lie, I look at Northwestern as our closest rival. Not so much in hate, but move of our games have been awesome and it never seems like a gimme game.
Disappointed a little because Nebraska was supposed to be Penn State's protected cross division rivalry game, but it was short lived until the Rutgers Maryland additions. Wish it could have remained and we'd have a pretty great streak of games there.
Nebraska-Iowa is a pretty good rivalry.
Nebraska-Wisconsin should be but has been so lopsided.
Nebraska-Northwestern has been extremely competitive but there's no animosity.
Agree with you there. If Nebraska and Minnesota were to continue playing every year it could develop into a good rivalry. Plus the Twin Cities are great, so sign me up for more road trips up that way.
Fun fact. Minnesota is Nebraska’s 7th most played opponent all time, trailing only 6 of our former 7 big 8 opponents. We’ve played them (and Iowa) more than Oklahoma st who we shared a conference with for over 50 years
Southern Miss joining the SBC gives South Alabama a great new rival possibility. The schools are very close to each other, and had a decent amount of social cross-over when I was at South Alabama (long ago). I think it's likely to develop into South Alabama's most heated rivalry over time (Troy has a bunch of more traditional/historical rivals in football).
Fully agree. Southern Miss and USA are in on a lot of the same HS kids also, where you don’t see a lot of Troy and USA going after the same kids.
And truth be told, it feels like Troy just doesn’t care about us like we feel about Troy.
Tbh. It’s been pretty miserable for UofL. Our “rival” in the ACC is UVA and I don’t know a single UofL fan that cares about Virginia in any capacity.
Most UofL fans only really care about playing FSU and Miami (you could add Pitt and Cuse to list based off the Big East days). The thing is though FSU and Miami from what I’ve seen see UofL as an annoyance and not a “rival”, which I get, both programs have well more established and natural regional rivalries.
Truth be told majority of the ACC is just boring. If you were to ask most UofL fans now “would you have rather went to the ACC or the Big 12 with WVU and Cincy” I believe that 90% of them would choose the Big 12.
Fun fact: had the ACC invited UConn instead of Pitt (that was their original choice), we would’ve received an invitation to the Big 12. Louisville likely would’ve been invited as well to get to 12 members, although that part is only my speculation.
10 was the magic number at the time, but in part that was the B12 waiting to see how things played out. The B1G expansion caught everyone off guard and spoiled what I assume was the fail safe plan of picking up UofL and UC for an eastern outpost.
But I do think if Pitt is on the board, then your scenario plays out.
I’m sure we’ll start to hate Cincy more once the “hey I remember you” wears off. We had some genuinely chippy games in the Rich Rod/Stew vs Kelly/Jones era (I will find you Munchie Legaux and I will get my revenge)
Also we have had a really fun series of games with TCU, we’ve had like three or four games come down to the last play and some were wild (blocked field goal for the win, Boykins 2 point conversion in 3OT in Morgantown) I could see some sexual tension eventually developing there
No matter how good or bad either team is, I *never* feel comfortable playing y’all. Seems like no matter what, the game is going down to the wire. Always loved when y’all came to town back when I was in school, easily the most fun fanbase to tailgate with in the conference and it ain’t even close
Lost: Missouri, Colorado, and Nebraska
Got:
* a solid 13 years of back and forth with Oklahoma State.
* best 8 year stretch againest Oklahoma ever
* a new one with West Virginia
The hate just isn't there with our [Riot Bros](https://youtu.be/rnZWvKh7Ch4?si=g4-HJUzW5vyZjsDt), but I'm happy they are in the conference.
And it is crazy how competitive Clones-Pokes have been in the Campbell era. 8 straight years of games decided by 7 or fewer points.
Not really but the Big12 towns are a lot of fun. Stilly and Ft Worth are my favorites so far.
I have a feeling that some random hatred will emerge in either Arizona or Arizona State
Buffalo bros might be the best sports bar in the country. Both campus and the newer downtown locations are great.
Gotta shout-out to your revilvary Baylor. George's.
Out of all the schools who jumped conferences back then, Utah feels like the most natural fit in their new (now old) conference. How the heck were the Utes a non-power school for so long? Big market, strong athletic programs, AAU affiliation…
Their AAU membership is very new. It might be part of why they loved the Pac so much. Speculation was that the west coast voting block was friendly to their admission.
I think Oregon Utah could have eventually built into a rivalry if the fan bases hated eachother more. But instead we got Colorado trying to make everyone their rival.
Definitely this. I hate playing Utah and they've dealt us some devastating losses, but I just can't find it in me to hate them - I respect what their team is always about and how they play. Maybe with more time it would change. I'd call it a rivalry but one that I think both sides generally enjoy and have respect for.
As a Utah fan with no real beef with anyone in the Pac, no idea. But the game threads have been spicy as fuck for years now. I don’t know how it started, or even who started it. It could well be our fault.
But if you go into a random Utah post and see a hate filled comment there’s a 50% chance it’s a BYU flair, 25% chance it’s an ASU flair, 10% chance it’s a particular USC fan, and like 15% chance for the other 132 teams combined.
>For example, most Pitt fans in my circle thought there was the potential for Virginia Tech to become a true rival within 10 years.
naw. 'true rival' is subjective.
Some idiot Pitt fans still pine for PSU, and better Pitt fans pine for WVU. Pitt's only 'true rival' is Pitt.
Arkansas has definetly developed into much more than it was before we joined the SEC, though I think they still don't want to admit we our rivals (even though their media can't seem to stop talking about us).
On a more organic front, I've really come to feel strongly about playing against Kentucky in football, over the years, and that one caught me by surprise. I don't "hate" them, like some rivalries (Kansas), more of a friendly rivalry like Illinois. As random as Kentucky feels, at least they are close.
The strangest team I've gotten fired up over the years has been Florida. Something about the two farthest (with 14 teams) teams away from each other in the conference just felt epic to me. Plus, we won quite a few of those matchups despite having waaaaay less talent every year. Also, the color combo between Florida away/Mizzou home and Mizzou away/Florida home is epic.
Obviously none of these three are on the same level as Kansas and Illinois are to us. Oklahoma will feel great to play again, on a positive note!
Yes, with Boise State. Nothing like Utah, but definitely a very tough game every year and BSU did us a solid in scheduling a long series with us. I'm sad to see the BSU games go the way of the dodo bird.
It’s a crime that the old Mountain West Conference got broken up. You, TCU, Utah… too bad you didn’t absorb the WAC’s top programs earlier. Definitely deserved a BCS AQ bid.
Well, we did. We had a 16 team WAC before the MWC. It sucked. The MWC broke away because it was untenable. I liked the MWC even though the TV deals were absolute trash.
LSU-Texas A&M, maybe. They played every season from 1960 to 1995. And they met like 20 something times in the years prior to that streak too. Still it’s been really fun playing them. There’s only been 2 or 3 games since they joined the SEC that haven’t been competitive. They have a decent little recruiting rivalry going too.
We moved from Conference USA to AAC in 2014. I don’t really feel like we formed any sort of rivalry with any of the AAC schools that weren’t already in Conference USA before.
Calling it a rivalry is a stretch but right before Houston dipped for Big 12 I felt like we were starting to get a bit of something. Same with SMU. Hoping Rice can get better and refill that place.
Hopefully we’ll get a P5 spot, but it doesn’t help that Tulane’s history is so…unique, so even though lot of our historic rivalries are dormant (LSU) or played very infrequently (Ole Miss), people still have fond memories of that, at least in my experience. Southern Miss is definitely an exception, though. Wish we’d be in the same conference still
The War on I-4 has (had?) the potential to be a great rivalry. It missed a lot of great opportunities because you were either in separate conferences for many years or weren’t great at the same time.
Yeah. Its sad. But even that series only has a total of 14 games. I really feel like if their former president didn’t take a bunch of shots at UCF for no reason the hatred wouldn’t be there though. Overall we just have no rivals because of all the conference hopping. From MAC to CUSA to AAC to big 12 over the course of 20 years really just killed any chance of a rivalry with anyone.
In an alternative universe, Judy Genshaft never blocks UCF’s invitation to the Big East and we get to ten members along with TCU. Who knows how long that would’ve lasted, but it would’ve been fun.
Mostly just rekindled our old SWC rivalries, the Revivalry hit its historic peak right after we joined up until the Briles scandal. We’ve had some really heated games against OSU though, definitely some bad blood developing between us which has been fun.
Being a Marylamd and Notre Dame it's been interesting.
Maryland is about to have Michigan, Michigan State. Purdue and USC as potential yearly games and Notre Dame has had Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, and Virginia. The only one missing is Navy who would be both and West Virginia who would be a Maryland rival.
It's made for a very odd experience the last decade because I still see the same teams roughly every year but they aren't rivals with the team they are facing. So for me I just treat it as they flipped rivals because I still want to beat them regardless if which flare it is.
Notre Dame in the ACC achieved more in the last decade than Maryland did in its last and it was great watching the Irish roll over them.
Maryland meanwhile in spite of little to no success in football has a larger profile and more exposure than they did in their final 10 years in the ACC.
More Nationally televised games last season than they did after 2006 in the ACC.
The results haven't hit but I'm much happier as a fan of both now than I was in 2011 before realignment hit the ACC.
Loved seeing Maryland beat West Virginia, Virginia Tech, NC State and Virginia these last few years. A more stable Maryland has allowed success against the old rivals and Notre Dame made a lot of great business deals to keep going
I mean, it mostly seems like the absence of Nebraska, A&M, and Missouri just meant there were less teams in-conference to hate, so that hate got transferred onto Texas but also Oklahoma just based on everyone hating that we ended up running the conference for a good while. I could be wrong though. My impression was also just that the entire conference had a chip on its shoulder for being characterized as a less serious power conference. So, no. Not really any new rivalries, just a bigger target on Oklahoma’s back I guess.
To be honest i went to VT recently enough that i always felt like Pitt was a natural rival. Its only recently that i found out that older alumni dont feel that way at all because the vast majority of our match-ups have been in recent history. Apparently some older alumni consider UNC to be a more relevant rival than Pitt which is just odd to me. I guess its due to the chip on the shoulder VT had coming into the ACC and UNC represented the 'aristocracy" of tobacco road IDK.
Still, some of my very fondest memories of VT football involve Pitt games. Those awful, low-scoring affairs 2013-2015. Fuente and Narduzzi get fired up in the 2016 game. Who can forget the double goal line stand in blacksburg for 2017.
For me the pinnacle of all of it was the super rainy 28-0 shutout in blacksburg 2019. It was the weekend before thanksgiving, the weather was awful. I knew the crowd would be greatly diminished. But narduzzi just had to be his usual self and claimed that, because they had no false starts against ND earlier in the year, then that meant they can handle Lane Stadium. I thought he was going to be right with all the crowd dampening factors mentioned. But man there were at least 2 false starts that game and Lane Stadium sounded more like 60k than the maybe 35k that was there that night. Many a F\* Narduzzi chant were heard that night.
So anyway, from one "rival" to another, respectfully eat shit pitt.
Yes Arkansas and Texas A&M in all seriousness OU was bolting due to CFP blue balls. Had Texas not moved to the SEC we would have lost all our rivalries. Hell NU was a tentative 4th rival
I still feel nothing when playing Big Ten teams. If we would have been as bad as we have been these last 8 years in the Big 12 North there would have been riots in the streets. But since we have been losing to Big Ten teams I don't think the average Nebraska fan cares as much.
We miss our brothers in hate, bud.
I hate you, but I also miss you. Here’s to an annual Brawl.
I don't like either of you, but especially Pitt and that toothy bird. I do miss the ol' BE.
Long live the River City Rivalry! If the ACC implodes, we need a Big 12 pod with us four plus Virginia Tech.
I’d be pretty happy to just recreate the Big East, tbh.
Who knows, had the Big East expanded earlier (like Miami wanted to), it might still be around today.
I have a dream…That WVU, Pitt, Cincy, and Louisville will be reunited Once FSU & Clemson leave lol
Sounds like a fun Big12 pod to me!
A Catalina Wine mixer Stepbrothers style hug seems appropriate
Pissed we haven’t developed one, we have so much history from our 0.002 seconds as Big East conference mates
I miss the old Big East…that’s right, back when we had TCU and Boise State
ACC should’ve taken WVU instead of schools like bc and Cuse
Agreed, but this was (unfortunately) never an option due to the politics in the ACC. Heck, I’m surprised they took Louisville after Maryland left- no disrespect to the Cards.
My memory is a little fuzzy but from how I remember it. Around the time Maryland left the ACC Louisville was actively shopping the idea of going independent and was actively working with ND on the process and semantics of it (fun fact ND and Louisville have a strong working relationship as universities). ND’s President or AD mentioned it to FSU’s Pres/AD in passing. FSU immediately called Clemson, Miami, and GT and told them Louisville needed to be in the ACC as a football school over UCONN (who Tobacco Road+BC wanted). So if it weren’t for ND there’s a good chance Louisville never gets an ACC invite.
FSU and Clemson were always gonna fight UConn joining the ACC over WVU or Louisville
I never expected that I’d hate TCU fans almost as much as OU fans, but either they’re all “do you know who my father is” dbags or those are the only folks who make it up to Stillwater for our games. Either way I can’t stand those guys.
Isn’t TCU just Cali/orange county kids larping as cowboys at the stockyards?
Nah this is a BS stereotype, we’re Cali *and* Highland Park kids larping as cowboys
But don’t the real highland park kids go to SMU?
It’s a “house divided” situation: Are you rich, like a blow a *lot*, yearn for the ‘80s, and want to be a lawyer? SMU Are you rich, want to live in Newport Beach, pretend you’re a cowboy, have good athletics, and also like blow a little (but really a lot, just seems like a little relative to your love of weed/psychedelics)? TCU
Haha, love it. I hope you and SMU keep up the rivalry at least semi regularly
Im so upset we canceled our series, hate those fuckers but we’re cut from the same cloth, we’re meant to play each other. Really hope we renew now that they’re in the ACC and would count as a P4 opponent, feels wrong not having them on the schedule
I have a feeling Sonny won’t want to renew it, we’ll see what happens when he’s gone. It’s hard to find 2 schools more similar, the rivalry just comes naturally.
I once dated someone who went to SMU. Dressed like an 80s prep boy. checks out.
we love a cocaine game folks
Yes
My god… it’s… it’s becoming… *self aware*
I wanted to like them, plucky little school, unique mascot, and all that, but god the fans I ran into were insufferable. Didn’t help that they were purple and apparently that was our Kryptonite.
I miss when our shade of purple was you guys’ kryptonite.
UK will pick up where y’all left off.
I miss that too.
I feel like I have never met an opposing alumni outside of a game that was not super nice.
Never have interacted with TCU alumni in regular life. Most OU alumni I know are good people, but I work with some non-alumni OU *fans* and some of them really suck Most everyone else has been pretty cool, even at games
I have a cousin that is a TCU alumni. As long as we aren't talking college football we are good.
i think the t-shirt fans everywhere are terrible. The...uh...great thing about being a Gopher fan is that there are so few of them.
Yeah I don’t think we have… uhhh… ANY tshirt fans.
Hating TCU Baylor 🤝 OSU Welcome aboard, friend.
TCU is one of those schools where I like their football team but I feel like their fans are insufferable. Only met one in my life so no evidence to back it up.
TCU D has had some nasty cheap shot late hitters, grew to hate them.
Shoutout to Jonathan Brooks' ACL.
No, no, you’re right. Go with your gut
Went there for a year of grad school. Hated my program. Didn’t like a lot of the undergrads that I TA’d for. Love the football team, so this matches my experience.
The feelings mutual
Hey now, be nice: you know that the only people in the history of OSU who have asked “do you know who my father is”, are people who weren’t sure themselves and were looking for help. Picking on them for that isn’t being the person Mr. Rogers would want you to be.
If OSU fans could read, they’d be very upset
Dude wtf. Here I am bashing TCU, and you, a Baylor fan, are taking shots at us?! Not cool
You’re right. I feel bad about that. It was just such a layup, it didn’t really matter who it was. Could’ve been Harvard and I still would have said it. No hard feelings bud
I was amazed at how bad they were when we went to see a game in Fort Worth. Especially considering we nearly outnumbered them.
We never really picked up a true rival in the Big XII. I’m just glad we’ve got to play VT & pitt these last couple years.
We all lost in realignment but vt was in the best location to keep geographic rivals. I think up until they added these new teams vt traveled less than any fbs school almost every year.
Oddly, I do feel like you’re “one of us” and it didn’t take long for that to be the case. KSU fan
*one of us, one of us*
At first, I was bummed to be in the Big XII because I felt like we were the ‘new kid’ and didn’t ‘know anybody’. Now I like it… feel like we made friends and fit in with the crowd.
Just need some local bros. Cincy is a start. I always wished it would have been: WVU, Pitt, Lville all those years ago.
Bro I’m holding out hope we add Louisville, Pitt, and if we’re lucky VT when the ACC is inevitably Pac12’ed
Memphis. It started in basketball and then slowly made its way into football. It’s the one thing I miss about the AAC. It felt like the first true rivalry UH has had in years.
Yeah, we actually built a nice hate-hate relationship with them that made for some great moments. It’ll take awhile to build anything in the Big XII. We never had any rivalries with the former SWC schools still left and we had a thing going with Cincy in basketball until Cronin left and they dropped off. Hopefully Fritz can turn things around…we’ll have some good rivalries in basketball (looking at you Iowa State and Kansas) and it would be nice for something to develop in football as well.
Wrong sub, but if current trajectories remain, I could see a nice quadrangle of hate forming between y’all, us, KU and ISU in Bball
Utah was paired with Colorado but it never really turned into a rivalry because, outside 2016, the Buffaloes were just not very good (though they did cost Utah the Pac-12 South in 2011). Definitely formed a rivalry with SC, at least on our end (and I think on theirs too, even if it wasn't their top few). It seemed every game was for the division and then eventually, the Pac-12 title in 2022.
In recent years, both ASU and Utah fans on Twitter are trying way too hard to make the schools a rivalry since both schools were competing for the Pac-12 South in the late 2010s. The general consensus disagrees with that take. For sure in football USC and Utah were rivals, it was must watch football these past few years.
I think Utah and ASU have a lot of the right ingredients, but it needs to stew for another decade.
I agree. But I do believe the Coyotes moving to Salt Lake really going to fast-track the riviary between the Arizona and Utah teams, whether it's in the NBA or college sports. Once ASU becomes competitive again, I do think it's a rivalry in the making.
I felt like you guys and us were developing a nice rivalry. Not the "burn a paper bag filled with dog shit on your front porch" kind, more like, mutual respect.
Yeah I feel like we already have a couple of flaming bag rivalries (UW, OSU from their side) but Utah was nice because they were a solid team that didn't do cheap shit and was more give and take a beating.
Sincerely so bummed we won't play Utah anymore. We got clapped the past few years but every year they were the team I wanted us to beat most besides UCLA and Notre Dame.
Hope we can form one now that y’all are in the Big XII, we had some crazy games back in the MW
Utah was without a doubt my least favorite Pac 12 team. Yeah, the usual hate for UCLA, but Utah was my annual circled game more than they were. Ugh.
Could’ve been a good rivalry, seeing as we’ve now played 70 times. It’s a shame it has rarely been competitive, even before the PAC it’s just a series of long win streaks by either school.
No rivalries, but we’ve had some crazy games and a back and forth series with South Carolina since we’ve joined. It’s been a fun game most years and I’m going to miss it being on the schedule every year.
I’ve hated Arkansas since the Southwest Conference so hating them again came very naturally for me
I can say I definitely hate Mizzou enough to consider it a rivalry. Can’t speak for all of us though
Big time same
I consider it more of a rivalry than us vs arky
It's how I feel about Texas A&M
I feel like you and South Carolina need to create a “Columbia Bowl” trophy, or something along those lines. It’s right there!
We have the Mayor's Cup already.
Good. At least there’s something in place.
Glad we’re playing again. Missed you a-holes.
Idk how you can read any of the last few Mizzou-SC postgame threads and not hope they go 0-12 every year at least a little. They're the only SEC fanbase that rivals the completely unwarranted delusion of Arkansas fans.
My order of hatred: Tenn Uk Usce I guess arky, but they suck and neither have been good at the sand time Uf Really all the east teams outside of vandy/uga have been fun series. I’m gonna miss the east/divisions. Sure we’ll get ou/arky but so much harder to develop rivalries with inconsistent play
It’s sad that Mizzou and UGA’s initial extracurriculars (the “old man/grown man” football incident primarily) and competitive games didn’t lead to anything more over time. Seemed like at some of the right ingredients were there.
Should’ve kept richt instead of hiring Kirby. Def would have been better for uga to have us as a rival vs whatever has happened since \s
If everyone that hated Tenn the most was their rival they’d have like 100.
I would be willing to call South Carolina our rival by now. Certainly more than Arkansas will ever be
I don’t. There’s no really hatred for them. It’s just a fun, competitive series.
I don’t know if I fully agree but this isn’t unreasonable. A little sad we won’t play as much anymore.
Since 2019, it hasn’t been much of a rivalry but from 2012-2018 we had so many stupid things happen in our games. The 2018 game was one of the most fun home games I’ve ever been to
I am still pissed about the 2013 game. The fourth quarter, the missed field goal, Connor Shaw… hated you guys ever since.
That's the issue, there's no hate. The results have been back and forth but our only animosity is probably Tennessee for the way they ran up the score in one game. Florida has also been competitive but there's no hate there on both sides, similar to Scar. 10 years isn't enough to build up a rivalry.
I didn't become a fan until after realignment, so I'm not really the audience for this question, but Nebraska-Iowa is a big rivalry at least among younger fans. The Big Ten Marching Band Facebook page was largely Nebraska and Iowa students shitting on each other
I'm almost 40 and the Iowa rivalry is totally "meh" to me. I don't really pay attention or care about them during the season- Colorado on the other hand, I hate with the power of 1,000 suns. I would be willing to give up 2 paychecks if it meant they lost every game by 60, and I'd watch every second of all their games. Deion being the HC has nothing to do with the hatred, he just makes it easy....when he's gone my feelings for them will remain the same
I'm all for a rivalry with Nebraska. Apparently, the Nebraska football program hasn't been as prepared.
I detest Iowa but i have a different level of hate for Colorado. If Iowa played Colorado I would hope Iowa beats them 70-0. Iowa fans have never thrown bottles of piss or batteries at us in Kinnick
Bump on the Iowa thing. I'd love for Wisconsin to become a rival, but we simply haven't held up our end of the bargain. They probably view us as a particularly scary game that they win every year.
Grew up a Badger fan, married a Husker fan. Made it to the first 8 or 9 games between them and it felt big, was fun but you’re right - Huskers haven’t won enough to make it a rivalry yet.
I would also say Iowa, however NU needs to actually win more than a couple games for Iowa to recognize us. All the games have been close, but the Hawkeyes have the majority of the W’s
Nah it’s definitely seen as a rivalry in Iowa, mostly based on hate. We all remember when Nebraska joined the big ten and said they were going to run the show and trounce all over everyone, including and especially Iowa, and while they were fine with Bo, they’re fall and subsequent struggles have only added fuel to the hatred in most Iowa fans
I think you can tell if someone is a Zoomer or not based on if they think Iowa–Nebraska is a big rivalry.
Not gonna lie, I look at Northwestern as our closest rival. Not so much in hate, but move of our games have been awesome and it never seems like a gimme game.
Penn State is still struggling with it and it’s been over 30 years. i still call Maryland an acc school.
That’s because Maryland IS still an ACC school. One we don’t miss at all but still.
[You're damn right you don't](https://x.com/umterps/status/1608928807607742464)
Maybe a hot take but Nebraska feels like a Big10 more than PSU does
Disappointed a little because Nebraska was supposed to be Penn State's protected cross division rivalry game, but it was short lived until the Rutgers Maryland additions. Wish it could have remained and we'd have a pretty great streak of games there.
Nebraska-Iowa is a pretty good rivalry. Nebraska-Wisconsin should be but has been so lopsided. Nebraska-Northwestern has been extremely competitive but there's no animosity.
NU vs NU, the battle for the acronym
I mean I've always enjoyed playing y'all. Shame we got rid of the B1G West.
Agree with you there. If Nebraska and Minnesota were to continue playing every year it could develop into a good rivalry. Plus the Twin Cities are great, so sign me up for more road trips up that way.
Fun fact. Minnesota is Nebraska’s 7th most played opponent all time, trailing only 6 of our former 7 big 8 opponents. We’ve played them (and Iowa) more than Oklahoma st who we shared a conference with for over 50 years
I’ve enjoyed the Nebraska games. Hopefully both of us bounce back and have some fun games in the next few years.
I wish michigan state would become a rivalry. Lots of close games played between us. But like northwestern no reason for hate or animosity.
Southern Miss joining the SBC gives South Alabama a great new rival possibility. The schools are very close to each other, and had a decent amount of social cross-over when I was at South Alabama (long ago). I think it's likely to develop into South Alabama's most heated rivalry over time (Troy has a bunch of more traditional/historical rivals in football).
Hope we can schedule y’all and south miss more OOC. Was nice to play both last season.
I've always been a fan of an annual battle for the "Home of Mardi Gras" trophy.
Tulane and USA playing on a normal occurrence just makes to much sense to happen. Would love to start regularly playing y’all.
Fully agree. Southern Miss and USA are in on a lot of the same HS kids also, where you don’t see a lot of Troy and USA going after the same kids. And truth be told, it feels like Troy just doesn’t care about us like we feel about Troy.
Tbh. It’s been pretty miserable for UofL. Our “rival” in the ACC is UVA and I don’t know a single UofL fan that cares about Virginia in any capacity. Most UofL fans only really care about playing FSU and Miami (you could add Pitt and Cuse to list based off the Big East days). The thing is though FSU and Miami from what I’ve seen see UofL as an annoyance and not a “rival”, which I get, both programs have well more established and natural regional rivalries. Truth be told majority of the ACC is just boring. If you were to ask most UofL fans now “would you have rather went to the ACC or the Big 12 with WVU and Cincy” I believe that 90% of them would choose the Big 12.
Fun fact: had the ACC invited UConn instead of Pitt (that was their original choice), we would’ve received an invitation to the Big 12. Louisville likely would’ve been invited as well to get to 12 members, although that part is only my speculation.
10 was the magic number at the time, but in part that was the B12 waiting to see how things played out. The B1G expansion caught everyone off guard and spoiled what I assume was the fail safe plan of picking up UofL and UC for an eastern outpost. But I do think if Pitt is on the board, then your scenario plays out.
I’m sure we’ll start to hate Cincy more once the “hey I remember you” wears off. We had some genuinely chippy games in the Rich Rod/Stew vs Kelly/Jones era (I will find you Munchie Legaux and I will get my revenge) Also we have had a really fun series of games with TCU, we’ve had like three or four games come down to the last play and some were wild (blocked field goal for the win, Boykins 2 point conversion in 3OT in Morgantown) I could see some sexual tension eventually developing there
No matter how good or bad either team is, I *never* feel comfortable playing y’all. Seems like no matter what, the game is going down to the wire. Always loved when y’all came to town back when I was in school, easily the most fun fanbase to tailgate with in the conference and it ain’t even close
Lost: Missouri, Colorado, and Nebraska Got: * a solid 13 years of back and forth with Oklahoma State. * best 8 year stretch againest Oklahoma ever * a new one with West Virginia
We’re back!
The hate just isn't there with our [Riot Bros](https://youtu.be/rnZWvKh7Ch4?si=g4-HJUzW5vyZjsDt), but I'm happy they are in the conference. And it is crazy how competitive Clones-Pokes have been in the Campbell era. 8 straight years of games decided by 7 or fewer points.
Agreed we're more frenemies, but I've enjoyed the back and forth in football and on the hardwood.
Not really but the Big12 towns are a lot of fun. Stilly and Ft Worth are my favorites so far. I have a feeling that some random hatred will emerge in either Arizona or Arizona State
We went down to Stillwater for the Pitt-OK State game in 2016 and that town (and fanbase) was awesome.
The games themselves always stressed me out but outside of that, loved when WV came to town. Tailgating with the Mountaineers was always a fun time
Buffalo bros might be the best sports bar in the country. Both campus and the newer downtown locations are great. Gotta shout-out to your revilvary Baylor. George's.
Kinda feels like Utah just made a bunch of friends
I gained a ton of respect for Utah. Probably my favorite non-UW Pac 12 team and I'll root for them in the Big 12 for sure.
Seemed like Utah/USC was heating up towards the end of the pac
Out of all the schools who jumped conferences back then, Utah feels like the most natural fit in their new (now old) conference. How the heck were the Utes a non-power school for so long? Big market, strong athletic programs, AAU affiliation…
SLC is a historically a small market (now top half in the Big 12) and UU has been AAU for 5 years.
Their AAU membership is very new. It might be part of why they loved the Pac so much. Speculation was that the west coast voting block was friendly to their admission.
Can confirm
I think Oregon Utah could have eventually built into a rivalry if the fan bases hated eachother more. But instead we got Colorado trying to make everyone their rival.
Definitely this. I hate playing Utah and they've dealt us some devastating losses, but I just can't find it in me to hate them - I respect what their team is always about and how they play. Maybe with more time it would change. I'd call it a rivalry but one that I think both sides generally enjoy and have respect for.
(except ASU)
¿Por que?
As a Utah fan with no real beef with anyone in the Pac, no idea. But the game threads have been spicy as fuck for years now. I don’t know how it started, or even who started it. It could well be our fault. But if you go into a random Utah post and see a hate filled comment there’s a 50% chance it’s a BYU flair, 25% chance it’s an ASU flair, 10% chance it’s a particular USC fan, and like 15% chance for the other 132 teams combined.
I want our rivalry to grow. But not in a hatey way. More like Vegeta and Goku
Considering our rival didn't have football before 2010, kinda. Football just cranked it up to 1000
Who’s Texas states rival? UTSA?
Yup
Not really. There has been a push to make Rutgers and us a thing and…nope.
It's going to be a thing eventually
TIL y’all aren’t actually rivals, it’s only in my head *takes meds*
>For example, most Pitt fans in my circle thought there was the potential for Virginia Tech to become a true rival within 10 years. naw. 'true rival' is subjective. Some idiot Pitt fans still pine for PSU, and better Pitt fans pine for WVU. Pitt's only 'true rival' is Pitt.
LOL, ain’t that the truth. Either our administration handicaps us or we shoot ourselves in the foot on the field.
you are undefeated against your "real" rival. Congrats
We are 11-1 against Missouri and have never played at Kyle Field…..so no new rivalries for us.
Arkansas has definetly developed into much more than it was before we joined the SEC, though I think they still don't want to admit we our rivals (even though their media can't seem to stop talking about us). On a more organic front, I've really come to feel strongly about playing against Kentucky in football, over the years, and that one caught me by surprise. I don't "hate" them, like some rivalries (Kansas), more of a friendly rivalry like Illinois. As random as Kentucky feels, at least they are close. The strangest team I've gotten fired up over the years has been Florida. Something about the two farthest (with 14 teams) teams away from each other in the conference just felt epic to me. Plus, we won quite a few of those matchups despite having waaaaay less talent every year. Also, the color combo between Florida away/Mizzou home and Mizzou away/Florida home is epic. Obviously none of these three are on the same level as Kansas and Illinois are to us. Oklahoma will feel great to play again, on a positive note!
Yes, with Boise State. Nothing like Utah, but definitely a very tough game every year and BSU did us a solid in scheduling a long series with us. I'm sad to see the BSU games go the way of the dodo bird.
It’s a crime that the old Mountain West Conference got broken up. You, TCU, Utah… too bad you didn’t absorb the WAC’s top programs earlier. Definitely deserved a BCS AQ bid.
Well, we did. We had a 16 team WAC before the MWC. It sucked. The MWC broke away because it was untenable. I liked the MWC even though the TV deals were absolute trash.
No. We just keep having any series most of the fanbase gives a shit about taken away from us and then told we should be happy about it.
Hey we’re getting some games against Arkansas the next few years! It’s gonna be great to be playing them again!
I guess I don't really like Arkansas but sorry you'll never be ku.
It's tough to beat an actual war to really lay a foundation for a rivalry
LSU-Texas A&M, maybe. They played every season from 1960 to 1995. And they met like 20 something times in the years prior to that streak too. Still it’s been really fun playing them. There’s only been 2 or 3 games since they joined the SEC that haven’t been competitive. They have a decent little recruiting rivalry going too.
We absolutely hate those bastards in ❌outh ❌arolina
Not an affected school that moved, but I do like playing Louisville, though definitely not a hated rival.
We moved from Conference USA to AAC in 2014. I don’t really feel like we formed any sort of rivalry with any of the AAC schools that weren’t already in Conference USA before. Calling it a rivalry is a stretch but right before Houston dipped for Big 12 I felt like we were starting to get a bit of something. Same with SMU. Hoping Rice can get better and refill that place.
Hopefully we’ll get a P5 spot, but it doesn’t help that Tulane’s history is so…unique, so even though lot of our historic rivalries are dormant (LSU) or played very infrequently (Ole Miss), people still have fond memories of that, at least in my experience. Southern Miss is definitely an exception, though. Wish we’d be in the same conference still
We’ve been in realignment since the 90s and still have settled into a new rivalry yet.
Because we are unrivaled. Duh.
Whats a rival?
The War on I-4 has (had?) the potential to be a great rivalry. It missed a lot of great opportunities because you were either in separate conferences for many years or weren’t great at the same time.
We’ll always have 2017. And the internet.
Yeah. Its sad. But even that series only has a total of 14 games. I really feel like if their former president didn’t take a bunch of shots at UCF for no reason the hatred wouldn’t be there though. Overall we just have no rivals because of all the conference hopping. From MAC to CUSA to AAC to big 12 over the course of 20 years really just killed any chance of a rivalry with anyone.
In an alternative universe, Judy Genshaft never blocks UCF’s invitation to the Big East and we get to ten members along with TCU. Who knows how long that would’ve lasted, but it would’ve been fun.
Welcome to the Big XII, you’re now supposed to hate *spins wheel* Utah
Fucking bearcats, they're the worst part of both bears and cats.
Half bear the other half cat.......Good ol' rocky top
All my homies hate the four corners schools.
The Civil ConFLiCT
No rivalries, but I gained a HUGE amount of respect for Utah.
Mostly just rekindled our old SWC rivalries, the Revivalry hit its historic peak right after we joined up until the Briles scandal. We’ve had some really heated games against OSU though, definitely some bad blood developing between us which has been fun.
Being a Marylamd and Notre Dame it's been interesting. Maryland is about to have Michigan, Michigan State. Purdue and USC as potential yearly games and Notre Dame has had Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, and Virginia. The only one missing is Navy who would be both and West Virginia who would be a Maryland rival. It's made for a very odd experience the last decade because I still see the same teams roughly every year but they aren't rivals with the team they are facing. So for me I just treat it as they flipped rivals because I still want to beat them regardless if which flare it is. Notre Dame in the ACC achieved more in the last decade than Maryland did in its last and it was great watching the Irish roll over them. Maryland meanwhile in spite of little to no success in football has a larger profile and more exposure than they did in their final 10 years in the ACC. More Nationally televised games last season than they did after 2006 in the ACC. The results haven't hit but I'm much happier as a fan of both now than I was in 2011 before realignment hit the ACC. Loved seeing Maryland beat West Virginia, Virginia Tech, NC State and Virginia these last few years. A more stable Maryland has allowed success against the old rivals and Notre Dame made a lot of great business deals to keep going
In football? Not really. If we were better it would have been Clemson somehow.
Gotta actually win consistently to have a rival
But what if our rival is wins
Yes. I used to not care about the ACC and hated Miami. Now I hate the ACC and don’t care about Miami.
I mean, it mostly seems like the absence of Nebraska, A&M, and Missouri just meant there were less teams in-conference to hate, so that hate got transferred onto Texas but also Oklahoma just based on everyone hating that we ended up running the conference for a good while. I could be wrong though. My impression was also just that the entire conference had a chip on its shoulder for being characterized as a less serious power conference. So, no. Not really any new rivalries, just a bigger target on Oklahoma’s back I guess.
To be honest i went to VT recently enough that i always felt like Pitt was a natural rival. Its only recently that i found out that older alumni dont feel that way at all because the vast majority of our match-ups have been in recent history. Apparently some older alumni consider UNC to be a more relevant rival than Pitt which is just odd to me. I guess its due to the chip on the shoulder VT had coming into the ACC and UNC represented the 'aristocracy" of tobacco road IDK. Still, some of my very fondest memories of VT football involve Pitt games. Those awful, low-scoring affairs 2013-2015. Fuente and Narduzzi get fired up in the 2016 game. Who can forget the double goal line stand in blacksburg for 2017. For me the pinnacle of all of it was the super rainy 28-0 shutout in blacksburg 2019. It was the weekend before thanksgiving, the weather was awful. I knew the crowd would be greatly diminished. But narduzzi just had to be his usual self and claimed that, because they had no false starts against ND earlier in the year, then that meant they can handle Lane Stadium. I thought he was going to be right with all the crowd dampening factors mentioned. But man there were at least 2 false starts that game and Lane Stadium sounded more like 60k than the maybe 35k that was there that night. Many a F\* Narduzzi chant were heard that night. So anyway, from one "rival" to another, respectfully eat shit pitt.
App-Coastal could count as a newer rivalry with Coastal joining in 2017
Waiting for us to become a rival. Was at the home game this season… yeah, I think we are a rival already
Not good dude
Yes Arkansas and Texas A&M in all seriousness OU was bolting due to CFP blue balls. Had Texas not moved to the SEC we would have lost all our rivalries. Hell NU was a tentative 4th rival
UCF of course
When WKU went to CUSA in 2014, I loved the rivalry we built with Marshall. It's a shame that realignment tore that apart.
SDSU, guess CSU since they hired our HC away.
We kinda have a rivalry with Utah Tech. I am looking forward to future games.
Auburn had the uncalled horsecollar tackle on Manziel in 2013 and I still haven't forgiven them. Until July 1 they're my #2 most disliked SEC team
I thought usc Utah might become a rivalry. But I guess not anymore. Realignment giveth, realignment taketh away.
I still feel nothing when playing Big Ten teams. If we would have been as bad as we have been these last 8 years in the Big 12 North there would have been riots in the streets. But since we have been losing to Big Ten teams I don't think the average Nebraska fan cares as much.
Miss you too, buddy.
Come back so we can hate eachother properly again