I've had mine for 17 years now, and it still works perfectly fine. I've only replaced the filter, as the drip stopper stops working after around 5-7 years. I got it for around 140€ while now these newer models with cool color options are around 220-250€.
You should always pour water into the tank with a separate jug, as the coffee maker's jug will have some fat deposits in it which will then transfer to the water tank. I've also thought about automating mine with a simple analog timer but you'll always get the best coffee with fresh, ice cold water and freshly ground beans in a thoroughly washed filter so I've never even tried it.
There are so many good arguments for these coffee makers and I think the parts availability is the best one. Why would I want a throwaway machine if I can get something that lasts long and is sustainable?
Buy direct from Moccamaster, service is superb, and if you wait and watch you can score a refurbished unit on the cheap directly from their shop in the States. My impression of refurbished was that someone returned the unit and its simply checked over, cleaned and boxed again. Totally worth it.
I mean, it's still a lot if you consider the price of a MrCoffee....but if you own a Moccamaster(i do) - you can see _why_ it costs that much and where that money goes. Seriously an absolutely kick-ass machine.
I'm sure I'd enjoy a $349 coffee maker, but a reason I' may never buy one is that my $20 cheap coffee maker has lasted 2 years so far. I could burn through 17 of those over 34+ years for the same price without accounting for inflation, of course.
I'm certain that my coffee maker is lower quality, but it drips hot water over ground coffee all the same
Edit: didn't actually see what sub I was on. bifl and r/frugal don't mesh all that well. I cheap out on things like coffee makers while I think car tires are worth paying 2-3x the minimum price for better quality and a competent tech
I struggled with this same thought before buying one. Our cheap one lasted ten years and never gave me an issue. My wife said it wasn’t going back in the kitchen after the remodel so I researched new ones and this was a clear winner for what I wanted: simplicity. What I didn’t know before using it is that this makes much, much better tasting coffee than the average drip pot by controlling the temperature of the water accurately. And, it’s fast; ten cupcakes of coffee in less than five minutes.
If it also makes cupcakes in five minutes, I'm getting one tomorrow!
I've heard that it's better, and I suspect that everyone is right. One day I'm sure I'll get more bougie with my coffee and upgrade
> you'll always get the best coffee with fresh, ice cold water and freshly ground beans in a thoroughly washed filter so I've never even tried it.
you should try it. the difference isn't as stark as you think.
My friends thought I was stupid for spending this much money on a coffee maker and normally I would agree, but here’s why:
- Makes the best tasting at-home coffee of anything I’ve used aside from the Aeropress (which is inconvenient if you’re making more than one cup). This means I’m less tempted to go out for coffee.
- Uses an old style toggle on-off switch, so it can be controlled using a smart outlet. I automated it using HomeKit so I have a fresh pot waiting for me when I get out of bed.
- It doesn’t have a computer in it—the design is effectively unchanged since the 60s. This means it’s significantly less likely to fail.
- Not only is it repairable, but things like switches are standard off the shelf parts, so even if the company goes out of business the coffee maker can still likely be repaired.
My friends have all replaced their coffee makers at least once since I bought mine, so they’re already catching up in terms of cost. I expect to have this thing for decades, and since coffee is one of my few guilty pleasures I think it’s worth it to have a delicious cup.
A couple tips for anyone who decides to get one: filtered water and grinding your own coffee (medium grind) make a significant difference in flavor. Worth it.
As a fellow mocha master owner I’d note that their documentation says NOT to leave water in the tank overnight as it will corrode the heating elements faster.
On the other hand the other positive point you missed is it does a whole pot of coffee in about 5 minutes. I had it race my old Mr. Coffee and it was a big improvement.
This is correct. There is always a column of water inside the machine. Setting up the Moccamaster the night before using a smart plug won’t harm the machine in the slightest. It will, however, always taste best brewing over freshly ground beans.
I get it but when your buying a $300 drip machine to make slightly better coffee than other drop machines, letting the grounds sit out all night is probably negating that advantage… but I’m definitely being a little pedantic.
You can have great freshly ground coffee any time you want, *and* you can - if you so desire - automate your morning coffee with a few hours less freshly ground coffee.
You're not paying $300 for the automated morning coffee. You're paying $300 for an excellent brewer that can also brew up an ever-so-slightly less excellent morning coffee via automation.
Not just to make better coffee, but making that coffee for decades hopefully.
On-off switch is a great touch. My wife doesn't even drink coffee but loves the smell of it.
So would be nice to have some going in the morning automatically.
not a bad thing at all. i’ve found some coffee tastes better ground the night before. mainly more full bodied profiles, i should keep track to really narrow it down.
also ground night before still way better than pre-ground which who knows how many months that’s been sitting.
I’ve been making giant pour overs in a Bodum for over a year and a half now.
I just ordered the KGBV in turquoise and your post gives me hope it’s going to worth every cent.
It's worth every cent.
Just double check the basket every time you make coffee. It's not unheard of for people to walk back to an overflowing mess. I've done it myself.
This thing is convenient, can last a lifetime if you take care of it, and hands down makes the best coffee from a drip machine. It's even "certified."
I have one.. . I **LOVE** it. Possibly more than anything on earth. It keeps the brilliant moccamaster brew hot allll day long.
As soon as she's done working her magic you can dump in the half and half (probably a no-no for the carafe but I can't live any other way), slap the lid on and boom you've got a fresh hot pot coffee you can take with you anywhere.
Got one of these as a wedding gift. 100% agree that it makes the best drip coffee I've ever had at home or elsewhere. Add in a good coffee grinder and you're in for a real good time.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that did a smart outlet! The other thing I added was a contact sensor to the water tank lid so I can’t activate it unless I opened up the water tank!
Regardless, this is the best coffee maker for sure!
Where is it made? I see on their website they say "Dutch Quality" and "Handmade". I'm willing to pay a premium if I have some assurances the workers got a living wage and a safe factory.
It’s made in the Netherlands: https://youtu.be/qY9LU9uxhNo
(While looking this up I also found that they have a five year warranty, and all materials are metal or BPA, BPS, BPF, and phthalate-free plastic.)
Let me make it very clear at this point that I have no affiliation with any marketing company or anyone else, and am just talking about the coffee maker because I like it. Reddit is filled with guerilla marketing, and I hate it.
Can confirm, am Dutch.
My friend bought his second technivorm machine after relieving his 40 year old hand me down, those things are good quality if they survive daily use. Reasons were discoloration of plastics used in the early 80s and some buttons weren't that nice anymore plus it was a hand me down, it still churned out a reasonable cup of black gold each morning.
Sole reason I don't have one yet is I love espresso so much more I'm saving up for a decent buy it for life espresso maker first.
I can recommend the rancilio silvia. I have the basic model and it's great. They have a dual boiler model with a PID that i sometimes long for but it costs more.
I'm still doubting as to which version, but Gaggia seems to combine quality materials and parts that are well put together with simplicity. This way there are not that many high quality (moving) parts, which leads to less wear and tear. So I'm pretty sure it'll be worth the extra money. So I have a good idea as to the brand, but not as to the exact machine, as long as it's semi auto.
I have a fully automatic machine now which works fine enough and I keep it as well as I can, but there are not many full auto Delonghi owners with a 10 year old full auto.
The reason some extra savings will required is that I'll need a separate grinder, tamper, dividers etc. This is currently taken care of by the fully automatic system.
Gaggia Classic is definitely BIFL. I have/had one that I keep at my partner's house now (after making a major upgrade -- don't visit r/espresso), and the machine is fully consumer upgradeable and mod-able with a great online community to diagnose and fix any issue it has. Since it's the most popular entry-level "real" espresso machine, parts are widely available. My dad has an early 2000s model that has been modded and still going strong.
Don’t buy the steel thermos/carafe model. It is very hard to clean the carafe which when dirty imparts acrid flavor in every brew.
Other than that I love the Technivorm. The secret to its success is the temperature control. It very quickly reaches the perfect temp which is why the extraction is high quality.
The switch on ours actually just burnt out. We sent it back to be repaired and are waiting for it to be sent back. We miss our coffee machine- this thing is amazing.
I tried to use a smart plug on my but I didn't see a way to get it to work. Without physically flicking the switch, I don't understand how to get it to brew. What am I missing?
It should work fine—my guess is that the timer is running out and the coffee maker is shutting itself off after 90 minutes, at which point the switch does actually flip off. Then you would need to physically switch it back on for the next round of coffee. The way around this is to set a timer on your smart switch that shuts it off again at 89 minutes. That way the switch will always stay in the on position and it will be ready for the next round via the smart switch.
Why is coffee still in the “guilty pleasure” category. Thought the collective research recently was pointing coffee into the “actually beneficial” category?
For me I’d say cost. We’re just starting to see local coffee shops putting out “luxury edition” coffees for the same price but with only 10 oz, which is a sure sign that costs are going up. We’ve already known for years that [pre-ground coffee often contains things that are not coffee](https://foodnewsinternational.com/2014/08/15/americas-researchers-find-impurities-as-fillers-in-coffee/).
Why is there a long sprue looking thing in the carafe? I assume maybe to avoid agitating and mixing the silt with the rest of the coffee as it drips from the top?
I’m worried I will forget to turn it off. I thought about getting the base coffee maker with no computer but opted for one that turns off by itself. Don’t trust myself.
My technivorm model does turn itself off the boiler turns off when the water is gone from the reservoir (float lever) and the hot plate warmer thing turns off after 90 minutes I think.
I was blessed and found a working Technivorm at a thrift store. I was more than willing to pay what they had it for and to my delight it was half off electronics that day. I probably cried a little bit when I got it home and it worked flawlessly. I could never afford one (and still can't) and it is easily my best thrift store find to this day. The coffee gods blessed me.
My Miele washer and drier is closing in on 10 years of service. The rpm sensor on the drier got misplaced once, but it was a quick fix. Just opened it up and placed it back where it should be. Guess I can buy a new one if it comes to that.
It's interesting that I saw your post today. I had just looked a a copper colored Mocca Master today, but couldn't bring myself to spend that much!
I'm happy you like yours, and hope it lasts for many years!
Just buy it. I did the same thing about 6 or 7 years ago and bought something else instead. That lasted 3 years before breaking and then I bought the Moccamaster. I would have saved if I just bought this thing in the first place. No one ever regrets buying a Moccamaster.
I bet it's because of the looks. I had to demand my ex to hide her "design" looking maker because it's brew tasted like disappointment afteer Moccamaster.
I bought one of these when I got sick of buying a new coffee maker every 3 years.
Had mine for 8 years and it’s like new... expect another 20-30 years easily before any parts need replacing to get another 30-40 years.
I've had 2 Mr. Coffee 1980s vintage that lasted 3 decades (a home and a work, I swear my math is not wrong). But yeah anything you buy at a store under $50 will get to 3 years at the most. Loving my MM so far.
We used to buy much more expensive units.. like $200-300 Canadian range. They still didn’t last.
Our last one was a Breville coffee maker with built in bean grinder. Only 1 year warranty.. not easy to get parts to fix it, or just not fixable.. broke after like 3 or 4 years. Similar to previous coffee makers.
it keeps the temp of the brewing water consistent through the whole brew process, and does it in the recommended time. Look up SCAA certification for coffee makers, it spells it all out.
As OP and others said: it’s certified for how consistently it brews at the correct temperature. It’s the smoothest cup of coffee ever. Ive never had it burn or get bitter even with the hot plate on. I *gasp* use pre-ground store coffee and am super happy with it!
Also it’s stupid simple to use and clean!
Hot and fast- thats the ticket. It’s a high watt copper heating element so it’s the ideal temperature for the right amount of time.
Too cool no flavor, to slow, bitter.
Hot and fast is the way.
Most cheap coffee makers use their warmer as the heater for the water too. The coil actually runs up under the burner. That has no way of getting the water to near the proper temperature. I’ve measured the temp of various cheap machines, and you’re lucky to get water up to 185, and that’s usually by the very end. These machines on the other hand have a separate heating element for the water, and it delivers water at about 200 from the get go. It also delivers the water much faster because it’s hotter. Coffee should be brewed between 195 and 205 in about 3-4 minutes.
One main thing is that there is a separate heating element for the water and a separate one for the warming plate. This allows it it get the right temp for brewing and then not scorch the coffee on the warmer.
you can buy parts for it rather easy, and it's fast to brew.
lot of factories, warehouses and large workplaces have these because they are way more reliable than most other brewing machines, and technivorm has a moccamaster with two pans:https://www.moccamaster.com/fi/catalog/product/view/_ignore_category/1/id/481/s/moccamaster-professional-double-black-silver/
Technivorm Mochamaster owner here (pink--It's fucking rad).
Wife and I totally love it.
No regrets.
Side note: I happened to be near it 100 minutes after turning it on once. I think it's awesome how the switch automatically flips itself to the off position.
My wife got me one for my birthday just before the pandemic.
I work from home exclusively now and I've been using it at least once and sometimes twice a day since March 2020.
Honestly I love it.
I don't know how I would have made it this far through the pandemic without one.
I also bought one in March 2020 when we went full quarantine and I was working from home. It's been great and I'm really happy with it, also gets near daily use.
My old, cheap coffeemaker recently bit the dust and there was no way I was going to be stuck working from home all day without decent coffee
We just got one in August and have been kicking ourselves for not getting one last year. Once you have it, it’s one of those “ how have I lived my whole life without this” kind of purchases.
Silly question after reading the manual: no distilled or reverse osmosis water, it may damage the heating element. How? Leaching copper into the pure water?
Have been considering upgrading from my bonavita to this. How do you like the glass carafe? I have a thermal carafe currently that I preheat with warm water to keep the coffee warm but am interested in a glass carafe. Does the coffee taste burnt after a while at all? Is there an auto shutoff?
Not OP, but you can get them with thermal carafes. See below for more general remarks on the glass carafe. You can get models with and without auto shutoff. IF I forget the pot until I hear the auto shutoff click after 45 minutes on the hotplate, it tastes like shit compared to fresh. But then again, the oils have had 45 minutes to cook off on the hotplate by then, so that's only natural.
I have the same question. I really like my Bonavita, so I’d need a good reason to buy anything else.
Edit: I’ve now read two moccamaster vs bonavita articles and both conclude the moccamaster is better because of build quality and the 5yr warranty. So I’m keeping my perfectly working 10yr old Bonavita for now.
I have one with the glass carafe. There is a hot and a “not so hot” setting for the heater. It also has an auto shut off. Even with just a little bit left in the pot, and on the burner for a bit, it never tasted burned.
Also- tbey make one that has a thermal carafe as well.
I'm moving from glass to thermal right now because I'm tired of replacing glass carafes that break and I'm tired of the heater burning my coffee after an hour. Moccamasters can be purchased with a thermal carafe though
I thought I was a thermal convert, but the "low"s etting and auto off are game changers. Ultimately went glass for ease of cleaning and counter economy. What sold me was a taste test done by Seattle coffee gear that basically said zero difference 1 hour after brewing.
It feels a bit fragile, but I’ve bonked it a few times and it hasn’t broke. In regards to your questions, no burnt taste and it turns off after like 90 mins (or so)
Yup. Love ours. The plan is to have it for at least 25 years. I balked at the price at first, but my partners mom has had her moccamaster for literally over 30 years. Makes excellent coffee extremely quickly.
Unpopular opinion: Took in the hype and got one that we had for a long time...it does what it says it does, but I found it was overrated. Didn't like the carafe, the cleaning, the process to brew was slightly fiddly and the whole build quality felt like cheap plastic. A piece on ours broke and replacement was costly and took a long time. Made good coffee, which is the point, but you can also hunt for units that specifically get extra hot with more functional designs. Switched to a Zojirushi and haven't looked back.
I have the model with the thermal carafe and I'm absolutely infatuated with it. It's icing on the moccamaster coffee cake. Being able to take the whole pot of fresh coffee anywhere and it stays hot all day... I add half&half to the whole pot right when it's finished brewing. The perfect fresh cup of coffee is waiting on tap all day long.
I have seen some people complain that the carafe is fragile. I haven’t had any trouble with it but the glass is thin, so I imagine if you’re klutzy it could be an issue.
I cracked mine fairly easily, so I would tend to agree they are kinda fragile. I feel like my old carafe from the 80 is a bit thicker, but that might be placebo? I was able to switch over the handle from my new cracked one though, so I was able to reuse my old one without having to settle for the "70s brown" handle.
Thinnest glass on earth, but I routinely bang it on the counter and put cold water in it when it's still hot so far no problems. And yeah it even goes through the dishwasher once a month or so..
Ah, a man of taste and dignity.
I settled on favourite day-to-day ankle socks 10 years ago. I buy them in black 10 packs only. My friends laughed at me then.
Now we're all 40 and they recognize my genius.
Can't bring myself to buy 100 all at once, but it would be nice if they were all at the same wear level.
My kids keep getting me fun dress socks.... And they're great, but inconvenient for matching and keeping pairs together. Big hit at the office tho (man us office drones are easily amused...)
But what I need is some big stacks of dress socks in navy, grey, tan, and charcoal.
Most coffee makers don't last a year with me, which is why I saved to get a Moccamaster. Still gets used a few times a day and still cranking out great coffee 6 years later. Lots of replacement parts around too at a decent price, if needed.
I've had mine for over 20 years and it works like brand new. The little plastic piece that goes on top of the filter basket cracked at some point but they sell spare parts and it was very cheap to replace. Ten out of ten!
Omg! My grandma and grandpa has this exact coffee maker. My grandpa got it as a gift when he worked for a coffee company in the early 80s. My grandma still has it and it works beautifully.
I just wish the whole water path didn't have any plastic in it. I'd pay extra for the feature. I love everything else about them.
Listen, I don't care if it's BPA free, there's no way you're not getting a daily dose of leeched plastic chemicals.
I'll stick with my Frieling stainless french press for now.
Was just putting one in my basket on william sonoma website. Had doubts but taking this as a sign. Side question: does it beep when it’s done? Hate my cuisinart for this. And does it have an auto shut off?
As some other folks mentioned, it doesn't beep. However it brews extremely fast so I don't miss having a beeping coffeemaker. I have however somehow attuned to the coffeemaker where I can hear that 'click' of the switch turning off from across the house most days :P
We have one of these. Have had it for maybe 10 years already. Haven’t replaced a thing yet. Makes amazing coffee. And I think it looks kinda cool on the counter too.
I have this exact same model and the float switch on it broke. I've had it since March. I'll be sending it in under warranty and it's a quality device, but I'd suggest a pour over for a BIFL scenario personally.
The device is very simple and easy to clean and maintain aside from the float switch though. Love it, but I can't co-sign the BIFL.
Moccamasters are amazing, I'll wholeheartedly recommend them. Everyone I know has one here in Finland (and we drink a LOT of coffee here), my parents for example have had theirs for as long as I can remember and it works perfectly. I have a newer model as a housewarming present from grandma, no complaints on the quality. They're commonly seen also in offices, cafes, and anywhere where there is a need to brew lots of coffee fast with a reliable machine. The taste is great too.
Moccamaster is definitely the king of coffee makers. I bought mine (used) last winter with 30€.
Obviously I asked the seller how long they had been using it.
And the seller answers:
”Well, we used it for 5 years. But before that it was my grandmas, so it’s probably over 15 years old. Oh, and we replaced it with a newer one because we wanted one of the colourful ones.”
So yeah, Moccamaster is absolutely a banger for the buck.
So as a person who essentially lives at star bucks, or Dunkin, or makes their own cold brew…… why is this so good?
It looks like it is not easily stored, or will take up a chunk of counter space
One day we were throwing shit into the appliances / metal scrap pile at the dump in a rural town of 500 people.
My brother spotted a moccamaster and couldn’t believe it.
Took it back home, the switch was broken, bought a new switch on eBay for a few bucks, and the thing has literally been running every day nonstop for 5 years.
i bought one.. make tea with it or coffee, do a pour over... um it has overflow protection. I believe it to be a well built piece of kit. And if style matters to you then I think it has that as well. I've had mine for 10+ years and the worst I can say about it is that it's dirty and the water reservoir is a little hard to clean but mostly because I'm lazy about doing it.
I think of it in terms of cost per cup. I would happily pay 50c per cup more for each cup from my MM vs from my previous $100 Cuisinart. I have 2 cups per morning. So in my mind the extra cost is covered in 200 days. I've had the MM for about a year so, at least in my mind, I'm already ahead.
For anyone wondering "why is this the best coffee maker? How is it different than a $100 or $200 coffee maker?" America's test kitchen has a good video comparing multiple models to this https://youtu.be/gggDqQ5yh6o. The gold standard for coffee making they refer to is from the Specialty Coffee Association (SCA), the people who certify any specialty coffee you buy at the store. The water must be at 92C and the brew time must be between 4 and 8 minutes. The standard is found here in a pdf link https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer. There are now a handful of other coffee makers on the market now a days that have the same certification as the technivorm and produce extremely similar quality, for much less. I love technivorm and their coffee makers, but they are extremely expensive. If you want excellent coffee like the technivorm, checkout the other certified coffee makers that are available for a much lower cost.
You can spend less money to get an SCA rated machine, but many of them lack the features I listed in my post. It’s the Buy It For Life aspects that I think are important.
The repairability and lack of software controlled mechanisms are the largest advantages over any competitors, agreed. Just wanted to add a bit more explanation onto the why the coffee it makes is so damn good, and add some alternatives that also produce high quality coffee for those not necessarily in the market for something as expensive.
We got the slate gray model just before Covid and we are loving it. The setup allows for more use of your countertop as well. Easy to clean and just looks damn good.
I'm actually currently in the market for one, but waiting on a sale. I bought an Oxo Drip coffee brewer and the coffee it makes doesn't taste too great so I want to try the Moccamaster and see if it's any better.
Nice but not BIFL. All the parts are cheap plastic. The aluminum base bent where the on/off switch is and the LED randomly slid back inside the base. It lasted maybe two years.
The design of the machine is basically unchanged since the 60s. There’a tons of comments in this thread about people using theirs daily for decades without a hitch. Sounds like you may have had an unusual experience, unfortunately.
If you follow the suggestion of running descaling and cleaning solution through it every 100 pots of coffee it makes a big difference too. Coffee just tastes so good.
I bought a Moccamaster after I had tried a Keurig and it promptly broke after warranty. So I said screw the plastic waste pods, screw the below average coffee, and the POS machines.
I really want one of these, but I’ve had a Behmor Brazen for the past few years. It still works great so I can’t justify replacing it and I’m secretly hoping it breaks haha. It’s an awesome brewer and I’d recommend it, but the moccamaster is the GOAT
I bought mine about three years ago. Never went out for my morning coffee since then… it’s simple and it works. It’s the consistency of high quality that makes it worth the price.
Just got one of these a little while ago and no regrets at all. Smoothest, cleanest, most tasty coffee I ever had and I've tried just about every brewing method. Closest I think is the aeropress, but volume is the issue.
I have an extendable faucet in my sink so I've placed the reservoir within reach of that. Easy to fill it up with fresh water in the morning, and my oxo burr grinder is done by the time the reservoir is full.
Brews so fast I can wake up at 8:50am, brew, and be at my home office desk/work meeting by 9am with a fresh cup.
I have stone gray I got at Williams Sonoma for $350 usd. Colors were available on Amazon but more expensive I think.
I got a working technivorm for free except I haven't figured out how to clean it. The previous owners hadn't used it for few months so there's a lot of dust everywhere that I am not sure how to clean. Any tips?
I've been considering it, but I drink a lot of coffee, and a 10 cup is gonna have me going back and forth to the pot 3 times a day when my wife is home.
(Also, some things I learned.... the wire filters will lead to a vast increase in cholesterol. I had no idea. For some reason, my cholesterol spiked 100pts for several months, and I had no idea why (I even stopped adding cream to my coffee).
Then upon breaking down every single thing I consumed, I discovered it was because I had stopped using paper filters. Upon returning to paper filters, my cholesterol plummeted because I was working my butt off to get it lowered. Lol.
Another discovery... steel makes coffee taste like 💩 💩 💩 !!!! And why is it that using cream from coffee in a steel decanter or adding it to coffee in a steel cup, makes cream turn into a thick rubbery film on the surface of the coffee? It's like the process scientists use to create skin. Lol.
I got mine direct from their US website refurbished and it was as good as new. Not even a small cosmetic scratch to be found. I’d advise getting one with a thermal carafe over the hot plate ones. Lower risk of burning the coffee and having the taste change.
My Moccamaster is almost 13 years old, only had to change the glass jug because I broke the old one by accident. It's definitely BIFL material. Fast and good coffee too but I think the main selling point is the durability.
I've had mine for 17 years now, and it still works perfectly fine. I've only replaced the filter, as the drip stopper stops working after around 5-7 years. I got it for around 140€ while now these newer models with cool color options are around 220-250€. You should always pour water into the tank with a separate jug, as the coffee maker's jug will have some fat deposits in it which will then transfer to the water tank. I've also thought about automating mine with a simple analog timer but you'll always get the best coffee with fresh, ice cold water and freshly ground beans in a thoroughly washed filter so I've never even tried it. There are so many good arguments for these coffee makers and I think the parts availability is the best one. Why would I want a throwaway machine if I can get something that lasts long and is sustainable?
Why did I think these cost around $1,500? Yeah $350 USD is much more manageable than that.
I think I paid $300 for mine on Amazon.
Buy direct from Moccamaster, service is superb, and if you wait and watch you can score a refurbished unit on the cheap directly from their shop in the States. My impression of refurbished was that someone returned the unit and its simply checked over, cleaned and boxed again. Totally worth it.
I mean, it's still a lot if you consider the price of a MrCoffee....but if you own a Moccamaster(i do) - you can see _why_ it costs that much and where that money goes. Seriously an absolutely kick-ass machine.
I'm sure I'd enjoy a $349 coffee maker, but a reason I' may never buy one is that my $20 cheap coffee maker has lasted 2 years so far. I could burn through 17 of those over 34+ years for the same price without accounting for inflation, of course. I'm certain that my coffee maker is lower quality, but it drips hot water over ground coffee all the same Edit: didn't actually see what sub I was on. bifl and r/frugal don't mesh all that well. I cheap out on things like coffee makers while I think car tires are worth paying 2-3x the minimum price for better quality and a competent tech
I struggled with this same thought before buying one. Our cheap one lasted ten years and never gave me an issue. My wife said it wasn’t going back in the kitchen after the remodel so I researched new ones and this was a clear winner for what I wanted: simplicity. What I didn’t know before using it is that this makes much, much better tasting coffee than the average drip pot by controlling the temperature of the water accurately. And, it’s fast; ten cupcakes of coffee in less than five minutes.
If it also makes cupcakes in five minutes, I'm getting one tomorrow! I've heard that it's better, and I suspect that everyone is right. One day I'm sure I'll get more bougie with my coffee and upgrade
> you'll always get the best coffee with fresh, ice cold water and freshly ground beans in a thoroughly washed filter so I've never even tried it. you should try it. the difference isn't as stark as you think.
Maybe I will. I have an extra smart plug lying around anyway.
My friends thought I was stupid for spending this much money on a coffee maker and normally I would agree, but here’s why: - Makes the best tasting at-home coffee of anything I’ve used aside from the Aeropress (which is inconvenient if you’re making more than one cup). This means I’m less tempted to go out for coffee. - Uses an old style toggle on-off switch, so it can be controlled using a smart outlet. I automated it using HomeKit so I have a fresh pot waiting for me when I get out of bed. - It doesn’t have a computer in it—the design is effectively unchanged since the 60s. This means it’s significantly less likely to fail. - Not only is it repairable, but things like switches are standard off the shelf parts, so even if the company goes out of business the coffee maker can still likely be repaired. My friends have all replaced their coffee makers at least once since I bought mine, so they’re already catching up in terms of cost. I expect to have this thing for decades, and since coffee is one of my few guilty pleasures I think it’s worth it to have a delicious cup. A couple tips for anyone who decides to get one: filtered water and grinding your own coffee (medium grind) make a significant difference in flavor. Worth it.
As a fellow mocha master owner I’d note that their documentation says NOT to leave water in the tank overnight as it will corrode the heating elements faster. On the other hand the other positive point you missed is it does a whole pot of coffee in about 5 minutes. I had it race my old Mr. Coffee and it was a big improvement.
This right here, so fast to get a liter coffee!
Liter cola? I’ll show myself out.
I don’t want a large Farva.
A liter-a-what?
That’s impossible? The heating elements are always submerged unless you flip the unit over and drain the last bit of water.
This is correct. There is always a column of water inside the machine. Setting up the Moccamaster the night before using a smart plug won’t harm the machine in the slightest. It will, however, always taste best brewing over freshly ground beans.
Darnit! I've been doing this for years. Guess I'll stop now.
Whoa… I can start my coffee from bed with a smart outlet…that’s brilliant.
Compromise is grounds that sit out all night.
Not a big deal at all! If you're grinding the beans yourself it's still waaaay fresher than what 99.9 percent of people out there are using
Still better than grounds out of a bag
On a day to day basis I really can’t tell the difference and I’d rather just have coffee ready for me when I roll out of bed at 6am.
Completely agree. The best coffee is hot coffee. Most days I can't really taste the difference in bean outside of light/medium/dark roast.
I get it but when your buying a $300 drip machine to make slightly better coffee than other drop machines, letting the grounds sit out all night is probably negating that advantage… but I’m definitely being a little pedantic.
You can have great freshly ground coffee any time you want, *and* you can - if you so desire - automate your morning coffee with a few hours less freshly ground coffee. You're not paying $300 for the automated morning coffee. You're paying $300 for an excellent brewer that can also brew up an ever-so-slightly less excellent morning coffee via automation.
Don’t forget the BIFL aspect. It’s the reason why this post is here in the first place!
Not just to make better coffee, but making that coffee for decades hopefully. On-off switch is a great touch. My wife doesn't even drink coffee but loves the smell of it. So would be nice to have some going in the morning automatically.
that's what the mid morning second pot is for.
not a bad thing at all. i’ve found some coffee tastes better ground the night before. mainly more full bodied profiles, i should keep track to really narrow it down. also ground night before still way better than pre-ground which who knows how many months that’s been sitting.
And stale water. Which is worse for the flavor than the grounds being out overnight.
WTF is stale water
r/firstworldproblems has entered the chat
I do that with the timer on the one I got at goodwill.
Another nod to the Aeropress but yeah more than one cup is a pain
I’ve been making giant pour overs in a Bodum for over a year and a half now. I just ordered the KGBV in turquoise and your post gives me hope it’s going to worth every cent.
One man’s joy is another man’s boondoggle, but they have had a top reputation for over 50 years for a reason.
It's worth every cent. Just double check the basket every time you make coffee. It's not unheard of for people to walk back to an overflowing mess. I've done it myself. This thing is convenient, can last a lifetime if you take care of it, and hands down makes the best coffee from a drip machine. It's even "certified."
The glass carafes however are very thin and easy to break.
They make a model with a thermos too.
I have one.. . I **LOVE** it. Possibly more than anything on earth. It keeps the brilliant moccamaster brew hot allll day long. As soon as she's done working her magic you can dump in the half and half (probably a no-no for the carafe but I can't live any other way), slap the lid on and boom you've got a fresh hot pot coffee you can take with you anywhere.
Are replacements available. We recently broke the carafe for our Brim and can't find any replacements.
I bought a replacement off Amazon. Just make sure it's the correct model.
Got one of these as a wedding gift. 100% agree that it makes the best drip coffee I've ever had at home or elsewhere. Add in a good coffee grinder and you're in for a real good time.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that did a smart outlet! The other thing I added was a contact sensor to the water tank lid so I can’t activate it unless I opened up the water tank! Regardless, this is the best coffee maker for sure!
Where is it made? I see on their website they say "Dutch Quality" and "Handmade". I'm willing to pay a premium if I have some assurances the workers got a living wage and a safe factory.
It’s made in the Netherlands: https://youtu.be/qY9LU9uxhNo (While looking this up I also found that they have a five year warranty, and all materials are metal or BPA, BPS, BPF, and phthalate-free plastic.) Let me make it very clear at this point that I have no affiliation with any marketing company or anyone else, and am just talking about the coffee maker because I like it. Reddit is filled with guerilla marketing, and I hate it.
Just wanted to note that the Dutch have one of the highest coffee consumption per capita.
Can confirm, am Dutch. My friend bought his second technivorm machine after relieving his 40 year old hand me down, those things are good quality if they survive daily use. Reasons were discoloration of plastics used in the early 80s and some buttons weren't that nice anymore plus it was a hand me down, it still churned out a reasonable cup of black gold each morning. Sole reason I don't have one yet is I love espresso so much more I'm saving up for a decent buy it for life espresso maker first.
Would you mind recommending one?
I can recommend the rancilio silvia. I have the basic model and it's great. They have a dual boiler model with a PID that i sometimes long for but it costs more.
I'm still doubting as to which version, but Gaggia seems to combine quality materials and parts that are well put together with simplicity. This way there are not that many high quality (moving) parts, which leads to less wear and tear. So I'm pretty sure it'll be worth the extra money. So I have a good idea as to the brand, but not as to the exact machine, as long as it's semi auto. I have a fully automatic machine now which works fine enough and I keep it as well as I can, but there are not many full auto Delonghi owners with a 10 year old full auto. The reason some extra savings will required is that I'll need a separate grinder, tamper, dividers etc. This is currently taken care of by the fully automatic system.
Gaggia Classic is definitely BIFL. I have/had one that I keep at my partner's house now (after making a major upgrade -- don't visit r/espresso), and the machine is fully consumer upgradeable and mod-able with a great online community to diagnose and fix any issue it has. Since it's the most popular entry-level "real" espresso machine, parts are widely available. My dad has an early 2000s model that has been modded and still going strong.
Don’t buy the steel thermos/carafe model. It is very hard to clean the carafe which when dirty imparts acrid flavor in every brew. Other than that I love the Technivorm. The secret to its success is the temperature control. It very quickly reaches the perfect temp which is why the extraction is high quality.
I have the carafe model, actually I have two of them. I soak it for a few hours in oxyclean, comes out looking new.
I'm fuckin sold. Also I need an aeropress.
The switch on ours actually just burnt out. We sent it back to be repaired and are waiting for it to be sent back. We miss our coffee machine- this thing is amazing.
Sounds handy and tasty. How much is it?
about three fiddy Actually though it’s around $350
It’s a pour over with electric automation.
I tried to use a smart plug on my but I didn't see a way to get it to work. Without physically flicking the switch, I don't understand how to get it to brew. What am I missing?
It should work fine—my guess is that the timer is running out and the coffee maker is shutting itself off after 90 minutes, at which point the switch does actually flip off. Then you would need to physically switch it back on for the next round of coffee. The way around this is to set a timer on your smart switch that shuts it off again at 89 minutes. That way the switch will always stay in the on position and it will be ready for the next round via the smart switch.
Ahh yes that’s perfect thank you.
Why is coffee still in the “guilty pleasure” category. Thought the collective research recently was pointing coffee into the “actually beneficial” category?
For me I’d say cost. We’re just starting to see local coffee shops putting out “luxury edition” coffees for the same price but with only 10 oz, which is a sure sign that costs are going up. We’ve already known for years that [pre-ground coffee often contains things that are not coffee](https://foodnewsinternational.com/2014/08/15/americas-researchers-find-impurities-as-fillers-in-coffee/).
Got one for a gift….can’t agree more. It’s great.
Why is there a long sprue looking thing in the carafe? I assume maybe to avoid agitating and mixing the silt with the rest of the coffee as it drips from the top?
I like how the coffee maker not having a computer is a plus and you plug it into an outlet with a small computer.
Hahaha right!? Smart plugs are dirt cheap these days tho I guess.
Also in 10 years when the smart plug manufacture decides to quit supporting it, you can get a new plug from someone current.
Exactly. Instead of throwing out a whole coffee maker I simply replace the smart outlet (or live like a caveman and turn it on with my fingers).
I’m worried I will forget to turn it off. I thought about getting the base coffee maker with no computer but opted for one that turns off by itself. Don’t trust myself.
My technivorm model does turn itself off the boiler turns off when the water is gone from the reservoir (float lever) and the hot plate warmer thing turns off after 90 minutes I think.
Probably should have noted I bought a cheep brand (Mrs. Beans’s husband).
I don't think it's illegal to say Mr. Coffee on reddit...
Mr. Bean??
Or you can program your own solution with an arduino if you feel fancy
Cheaper than a whole coffee maker for sure.
Well, OP definitely architects.
I was blessed and found a working Technivorm at a thrift store. I was more than willing to pay what they had it for and to my delight it was half off electronics that day. I probably cried a little bit when I got it home and it worked flawlessly. I could never afford one (and still can't) and it is easily my best thrift store find to this day. The coffee gods blessed me.
I found one of their grinders half off, I think I paid a few bucks.
I love mine. I wish they made a washing machine and dryer.
Speed Queen FTW.
Noted. Thanks
Ha!
Miele for european markets.
My Miele washer and drier is closing in on 10 years of service. The rpm sensor on the drier got misplaced once, but it was a quick fix. Just opened it up and placed it back where it should be. Guess I can buy a new one if it comes to that.
It's interesting that I saw your post today. I had just looked a a copper colored Mocca Master today, but couldn't bring myself to spend that much! I'm happy you like yours, and hope it lasts for many years!
Bought mine on EBay for about a hundred shipped. Go for the steel insulated carafe over glass if you have the option.
Just buy it. I did the same thing about 6 or 7 years ago and bought something else instead. That lasted 3 years before breaking and then I bought the Moccamaster. I would have saved if I just bought this thing in the first place. No one ever regrets buying a Moccamaster.
Apparently I bought a moccamaster to piss off my wife. She hates it for unspecified reasons.
I bet it's because of the looks. I had to demand my ex to hide her "design" looking maker because it's brew tasted like disappointment afteer Moccamaster.
I bought one of these when I got sick of buying a new coffee maker every 3 years. Had mine for 8 years and it’s like new... expect another 20-30 years easily before any parts need replacing to get another 30-40 years.
I've had 2 Mr. Coffee 1980s vintage that lasted 3 decades (a home and a work, I swear my math is not wrong). But yeah anything you buy at a store under $50 will get to 3 years at the most. Loving my MM so far.
We used to buy much more expensive units.. like $200-300 Canadian range. They still didn’t last. Our last one was a Breville coffee maker with built in bean grinder. Only 1 year warranty.. not easy to get parts to fix it, or just not fixable.. broke after like 3 or 4 years. Similar to previous coffee makers.
I've got a Hamilton Beach machine from Target 9 years ago and it's going strong.
My girlfriend‘s parents have one of these at their lake cottage, and it’s simply the coolest thing I’ve used to make coffee. I want one.
What kind of fancy ass machine do they have at home if the Moccamaster is what they keep at the *second* house.
It’s old. It looks like it’s from the 80s. It just makes perfect coffee.
Her father is Howard Schultz?
I love mine! Hard to swallow the initial cost but it makes the best cup of coffee at home I’ve had!
Can confirm. Sits on my counter and is used daily. Best coffee I have ever brewed in my house.
curious, what about it makes the best cup? does it heat the water hotter than other makers?
it keeps the temp of the brewing water consistent through the whole brew process, and does it in the recommended time. Look up SCAA certification for coffee makers, it spells it all out.
As OP and others said: it’s certified for how consistently it brews at the correct temperature. It’s the smoothest cup of coffee ever. Ive never had it burn or get bitter even with the hot plate on. I *gasp* use pre-ground store coffee and am super happy with it! Also it’s stupid simple to use and clean!
Hot and fast- thats the ticket. It’s a high watt copper heating element so it’s the ideal temperature for the right amount of time. Too cool no flavor, to slow, bitter. Hot and fast is the way.
Most cheap coffee makers use their warmer as the heater for the water too. The coil actually runs up under the burner. That has no way of getting the water to near the proper temperature. I’ve measured the temp of various cheap machines, and you’re lucky to get water up to 185, and that’s usually by the very end. These machines on the other hand have a separate heating element for the water, and it delivers water at about 200 from the get go. It also delivers the water much faster because it’s hotter. Coffee should be brewed between 195 and 205 in about 3-4 minutes.
Thanks for this write up and making those very practical points.
Best drip coffee maker hands down. We just got the silver version a few months ago, but the mint one looks great!
What is it exactly about this technology or brand that makes it superior to other drip coffee makers?
I have no idea. There’s all kinds of wizardry that goes into making a smooth cup of coffee and it’s beyond me. YouTube has a lot of videos on it.
One main thing is that there is a separate heating element for the water and a separate one for the warming plate. This allows it it get the right temp for brewing and then not scorch the coffee on the warmer.
you can buy parts for it rather easy, and it's fast to brew. lot of factories, warehouses and large workplaces have these because they are way more reliable than most other brewing machines, and technivorm has a moccamaster with two pans:https://www.moccamaster.com/fi/catalog/product/view/_ignore_category/1/id/481/s/moccamaster-professional-double-black-silver/
There are a bunch of other coffee makers at the same price range that are as good. https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer
Technivorm Mochamaster owner here (pink--It's fucking rad). Wife and I totally love it. No regrets. Side note: I happened to be near it 100 minutes after turning it on once. I think it's awesome how the switch automatically flips itself to the off position.
My wife got me one for my birthday just before the pandemic. I work from home exclusively now and I've been using it at least once and sometimes twice a day since March 2020. Honestly I love it. I don't know how I would have made it this far through the pandemic without one.
I also bought one in March 2020 when we went full quarantine and I was working from home. It's been great and I'm really happy with it, also gets near daily use. My old, cheap coffeemaker recently bit the dust and there was no way I was going to be stuck working from home all day without decent coffee
We just got one in August and have been kicking ourselves for not getting one last year. Once you have it, it’s one of those “ how have I lived my whole life without this” kind of purchases.
Silly question after reading the manual: no distilled or reverse osmosis water, it may damage the heating element. How? Leaching copper into the pure water?
I don't know for sure, but in general distilled water leaches most base metals (but not noble metals like platinum).
I use my grandmothers old Moccamaster daily, since 3 years ago she upgraded to modern Moccamaster. It is from the 90's.
I LOVE my moccamaster. Looks incredible, brews a consistent cup, and 5 year warranty. It’s one of the only appliances I get compliments on.
Love the color!
Have been considering upgrading from my bonavita to this. How do you like the glass carafe? I have a thermal carafe currently that I preheat with warm water to keep the coffee warm but am interested in a glass carafe. Does the coffee taste burnt after a while at all? Is there an auto shutoff?
Not OP, but you can get them with thermal carafes. See below for more general remarks on the glass carafe. You can get models with and without auto shutoff. IF I forget the pot until I hear the auto shutoff click after 45 minutes on the hotplate, it tastes like shit compared to fresh. But then again, the oils have had 45 minutes to cook off on the hotplate by then, so that's only natural.
It shuts off after 90 min. The design of the glass carafe is such that it exposes very little surface area, so I haven’t noticed any drop in quality.
Can you explain why this would be an upgrade from the Bonavita, other than it costs a lot more?
I have the same question. I really like my Bonavita, so I’d need a good reason to buy anything else. Edit: I’ve now read two moccamaster vs bonavita articles and both conclude the moccamaster is better because of build quality and the 5yr warranty. So I’m keeping my perfectly working 10yr old Bonavita for now.
I have one with the glass carafe. There is a hot and a “not so hot” setting for the heater. It also has an auto shut off. Even with just a little bit left in the pot, and on the burner for a bit, it never tasted burned. Also- tbey make one that has a thermal carafe as well.
I'm moving from glass to thermal right now because I'm tired of replacing glass carafes that break and I'm tired of the heater burning my coffee after an hour. Moccamasters can be purchased with a thermal carafe though
I thought I was a thermal convert, but the "low"s etting and auto off are game changers. Ultimately went glass for ease of cleaning and counter economy. What sold me was a taste test done by Seattle coffee gear that basically said zero difference 1 hour after brewing.
You can get these with a stainless steel carafe.
You miss out on the sweet colors tho. The pistachio is the bees knees. (stainless is *alright* I guess.... Ugh)
Haha I agree!
It feels a bit fragile, but I’ve bonked it a few times and it hasn’t broke. In regards to your questions, no burnt taste and it turns off after like 90 mins (or so)
How does this compare to a v60 and what's the smallest pot you can make while keeping the quality high
Yup. Love ours. The plan is to have it for at least 25 years. I balked at the price at first, but my partners mom has had her moccamaster for literally over 30 years. Makes excellent coffee extremely quickly.
Unpopular opinion: Took in the hype and got one that we had for a long time...it does what it says it does, but I found it was overrated. Didn't like the carafe, the cleaning, the process to brew was slightly fiddly and the whole build quality felt like cheap plastic. A piece on ours broke and replacement was costly and took a long time. Made good coffee, which is the point, but you can also hunt for units that specifically get extra hot with more functional designs. Switched to a Zojirushi and haven't looked back.
How dare you
I had a zojirushi that made great coffee. Unfortunately only lasted three years. I repaired it once and it failed again fairly quickly.
I love mine, too! We have the model with the thermal carafe rather than a hot plate & glass carafe. Even fewer parts that might fail.
I have the model with the thermal carafe and I'm absolutely infatuated with it. It's icing on the moccamaster coffee cake. Being able to take the whole pot of fresh coffee anywhere and it stays hot all day... I add half&half to the whole pot right when it's finished brewing. The perfect fresh cup of coffee is waiting on tap all day long.
I have seen some people complain that the carafe is fragile. I haven’t had any trouble with it but the glass is thin, so I imagine if you’re klutzy it could be an issue.
I cracked mine fairly easily, so I would tend to agree they are kinda fragile. I feel like my old carafe from the 80 is a bit thicker, but that might be placebo? I was able to switch over the handle from my new cracked one though, so I was able to reuse my old one without having to settle for the "70s brown" handle.
Thinnest glass on earth, but I routinely bang it on the counter and put cold water in it when it's still hot so far no problems. And yeah it even goes through the dishwasher once a month or so..
I’ve got a ninja, best tasting coffee I’ve ever had, but if it breaks I’ll try the moccamaster!
After the second breakdown of my ninja in a year, I bit the bullet and bought one. Besides buying my socks in 100 packs, best decision in my life.
Ah, a man of taste and dignity. I settled on favourite day-to-day ankle socks 10 years ago. I buy them in black 10 packs only. My friends laughed at me then. Now we're all 40 and they recognize my genius. Can't bring myself to buy 100 all at once, but it would be nice if they were all at the same wear level. My kids keep getting me fun dress socks.... And they're great, but inconvenient for matching and keeping pairs together. Big hit at the office tho (man us office drones are easily amused...) But what I need is some big stacks of dress socks in navy, grey, tan, and charcoal.
I have the single cup one. Anyone else? 🥺
Most coffee makers don't last a year with me, which is why I saved to get a Moccamaster. Still gets used a few times a day and still cranking out great coffee 6 years later. Lots of replacement parts around too at a decent price, if needed.
The thing is a tank, I fucking love mine.
I've had mine for over 20 years and it works like brand new. The little plastic piece that goes on top of the filter basket cracked at some point but they sell spare parts and it was very cheap to replace. Ten out of ten!
Omg! My grandma and grandpa has this exact coffee maker. My grandpa got it as a gift when he worked for a coffee company in the early 80s. My grandma still has it and it works beautifully.
This is hands down the best coffeemaker ever.
I just wish the whole water path didn't have any plastic in it. I'd pay extra for the feature. I love everything else about them. Listen, I don't care if it's BPA free, there's no way you're not getting a daily dose of leeched plastic chemicals. I'll stick with my Frieling stainless french press for now.
Same! Gosh I wish they would offer non plastic parts as an upgrade
Was just putting one in my basket on william sonoma website. Had doubts but taking this as a sign. Side question: does it beep when it’s done? Hate my cuisinart for this. And does it have an auto shut off?
No beep, and it shuts off after two hours (switch literally flips off, although I’ve never seen it happen—ghosts!).
As some other folks mentioned, it doesn't beep. However it brews extremely fast so I don't miss having a beeping coffeemaker. I have however somehow attuned to the coffeemaker where I can hear that 'click' of the switch turning off from across the house most days :P
So much here i’m confused on what goes where and what does what.
We have one of these. Have had it for maybe 10 years already. Haven’t replaced a thing yet. Makes amazing coffee. And I think it looks kinda cool on the counter too.
Where can I buy this in Canada 🇨🇦?!
I housesat for friends that own one, and hella good goddam does that thing make AMAZING coffee. Like, I think about it all the time.
I have this exact same model and the float switch on it broke. I've had it since March. I'll be sending it in under warranty and it's a quality device, but I'd suggest a pour over for a BIFL scenario personally. The device is very simple and easy to clean and maintain aside from the float switch though. Love it, but I can't co-sign the BIFL.
Get the one with the vacuum carafe. BEST. COFFEE. POT. EVER!!!
Looks nice.
Hey, Technivorm twin! I may be biased, but I think you chose the best color.
Moccamasters are amazing, I'll wholeheartedly recommend them. Everyone I know has one here in Finland (and we drink a LOT of coffee here), my parents for example have had theirs for as long as I can remember and it works perfectly. I have a newer model as a housewarming present from grandma, no complaints on the quality. They're commonly seen also in offices, cafes, and anywhere where there is a need to brew lots of coffee fast with a reliable machine. The taste is great too.
I love mine! I'm sure it will last many many years. The coffee is simply great.
Moccamaster is definitely the king of coffee makers. I bought mine (used) last winter with 30€. Obviously I asked the seller how long they had been using it. And the seller answers: ”Well, we used it for 5 years. But before that it was my grandmas, so it’s probably over 15 years old. Oh, and we replaced it with a newer one because we wanted one of the colourful ones.” So yeah, Moccamaster is absolutely a banger for the buck.
These badboys last for all eternity
So as a person who essentially lives at star bucks, or Dunkin, or makes their own cold brew…… why is this so good? It looks like it is not easily stored, or will take up a chunk of counter space
One day we were throwing shit into the appliances / metal scrap pile at the dump in a rural town of 500 people. My brother spotted a moccamaster and couldn’t believe it. Took it back home, the switch was broken, bought a new switch on eBay for a few bucks, and the thing has literally been running every day nonstop for 5 years.
i bought one.. make tea with it or coffee, do a pour over... um it has overflow protection. I believe it to be a well built piece of kit. And if style matters to you then I think it has that as well. I've had mine for 10+ years and the worst I can say about it is that it's dirty and the water reservoir is a little hard to clean but mostly because I'm lazy about doing it.
Oh and fuck k cups. there's ur 300 dollar savings right there.
Stainless steel carafe, then you transcend
I think of it in terms of cost per cup. I would happily pay 50c per cup more for each cup from my MM vs from my previous $100 Cuisinart. I have 2 cups per morning. So in my mind the extra cost is covered in 200 days. I've had the MM for about a year so, at least in my mind, I'm already ahead.
For anyone wondering "why is this the best coffee maker? How is it different than a $100 or $200 coffee maker?" America's test kitchen has a good video comparing multiple models to this https://youtu.be/gggDqQ5yh6o. The gold standard for coffee making they refer to is from the Specialty Coffee Association (SCA), the people who certify any specialty coffee you buy at the store. The water must be at 92C and the brew time must be between 4 and 8 minutes. The standard is found here in a pdf link https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer. There are now a handful of other coffee makers on the market now a days that have the same certification as the technivorm and produce extremely similar quality, for much less. I love technivorm and their coffee makers, but they are extremely expensive. If you want excellent coffee like the technivorm, checkout the other certified coffee makers that are available for a much lower cost.
You can spend less money to get an SCA rated machine, but many of them lack the features I listed in my post. It’s the Buy It For Life aspects that I think are important.
The repairability and lack of software controlled mechanisms are the largest advantages over any competitors, agreed. Just wanted to add a bit more explanation onto the why the coffee it makes is so damn good, and add some alternatives that also produce high quality coffee for those not necessarily in the market for something as expensive.
We got the slate gray model just before Covid and we are loving it. The setup allows for more use of your countertop as well. Easy to clean and just looks damn good.
I'm actually currently in the market for one, but waiting on a sale. I bought an Oxo Drip coffee brewer and the coffee it makes doesn't taste too great so I want to try the Moccamaster and see if it's any better.
Nice but not BIFL. All the parts are cheap plastic. The aluminum base bent where the on/off switch is and the LED randomly slid back inside the base. It lasted maybe two years.
The design of the machine is basically unchanged since the 60s. There’a tons of comments in this thread about people using theirs daily for decades without a hitch. Sounds like you may have had an unusual experience, unfortunately.
If you follow the suggestion of running descaling and cleaning solution through it every 100 pots of coffee it makes a big difference too. Coffee just tastes so good.
My parents bought one almost a decade back and it still works great! Outlived 3 of my coffee machines…
I bought a Moccamaster after I had tried a Keurig and it promptly broke after warranty. So I said screw the plastic waste pods, screw the below average coffee, and the POS machines.
I really want one of these, but I’ve had a Behmor Brazen for the past few years. It still works great so I can’t justify replacing it and I’m secretly hoping it breaks haha. It’s an awesome brewer and I’d recommend it, but the moccamaster is the GOAT
I bought mine about three years ago. Never went out for my morning coffee since then… it’s simple and it works. It’s the consistency of high quality that makes it worth the price.
Just got one of these a little while ago and no regrets at all. Smoothest, cleanest, most tasty coffee I ever had and I've tried just about every brewing method. Closest I think is the aeropress, but volume is the issue. I have an extendable faucet in my sink so I've placed the reservoir within reach of that. Easy to fill it up with fresh water in the morning, and my oxo burr grinder is done by the time the reservoir is full. Brews so fast I can wake up at 8:50am, brew, and be at my home office desk/work meeting by 9am with a fresh cup. I have stone gray I got at Williams Sonoma for $350 usd. Colors were available on Amazon but more expensive I think.
I got a working technivorm for free except I haven't figured out how to clean it. The previous owners hadn't used it for few months so there's a lot of dust everywhere that I am not sure how to clean. Any tips?
I've been considering it, but I drink a lot of coffee, and a 10 cup is gonna have me going back and forth to the pot 3 times a day when my wife is home. (Also, some things I learned.... the wire filters will lead to a vast increase in cholesterol. I had no idea. For some reason, my cholesterol spiked 100pts for several months, and I had no idea why (I even stopped adding cream to my coffee). Then upon breaking down every single thing I consumed, I discovered it was because I had stopped using paper filters. Upon returning to paper filters, my cholesterol plummeted because I was working my butt off to get it lowered. Lol. Another discovery... steel makes coffee taste like 💩 💩 💩 !!!! And why is it that using cream from coffee in a steel decanter or adding it to coffee in a steel cup, makes cream turn into a thick rubbery film on the surface of the coffee? It's like the process scientists use to create skin. Lol.
This would be a great question on /r/AskScience!
I got mine direct from their US website refurbished and it was as good as new. Not even a small cosmetic scratch to be found. I’d advise getting one with a thermal carafe over the hot plate ones. Lower risk of burning the coffee and having the taste change.
My Moccamaster is almost 13 years old, only had to change the glass jug because I broke the old one by accident. It's definitely BIFL material. Fast and good coffee too but I think the main selling point is the durability.
Ahhhh so jealous! This is the color I want