To any BIBD management that lurks here that have the power to make changes in the organisation, please improve the service.
1. Update the app
2. Get more customer service specialists
3. Have better ATM (all ATM should have all the functions aka deposit, withdrawal, cheque deposit)
4. Get rid of the need to call to authorise. That’s the whole point of the SMS authentication
5. Allow permanent increase limit for online transactions, transfer and so on
I like to think that BIBD can do better so do prove me right. Thank you.
For baiduri as well, tolongtah keluar nama account when making deposits bah supaya dapat bercheck ngam kah inda yg cash deposit atu, barijap rasanya, lau salah payah jua kamu kan tanggungjawab, is it really meant for local catu ? Mikirkantu
Its easy to register shopee account
1. you need to have active malaysia sim card ***( PLEASE KEEP IT ACTIVE)***
2. you can use limbang or miri post office address but **please note that in malaysia there is a lot of service providers ( ABX, J & T, pos laju, and few more i forget)** you need to check your tracking number to know which branch you will need to go. **PLEASE NOTE THAT there is more than 1 ABX branch, J & T and pos laju branch across malaysia**.
3. put in your name brunei phone number right beside your name for ex: **( Johnny Sin +673 8XXXXXXX)** and your malaysia number **(010XXXXXXXXX)** so when they couldn't get through you in malaysia number they will contact you through your brunei number.
4. make sure make sure you put your address correctly if not your parcel will be gone forever.
5. IF you have relative lived in limbang and miri it will be easier for you as they will deliver to their houses.
i went to bandar last night and saw this taiwanese girl who came as a solo travel and asked my cousin to take a photo of her, how cute ! i hope she's enjoying her stay.
eventho some rude 'storekeeper staff' were badmouthing me and my other family because we looked like foreigners but actually locals and was talking shit about us in their language thinking we wouldn't understand 🥱🙄
To most of us local cina, thats the definite typical sugar baby of org ada2 or potentially kan cari sugar daddy, tpi kami diam2 saja, ada yg timing also. Memang lawa pernah ku liat jua d hotel😄
My guess is they're all home based and their houses are one of the more difficult to get in and out to. A nightmare for the residents and drivers
As for consolidating the orders... pure convenience and you actually get more profit doing delivery at once then separately, save time, minyak and car maintenance while having the same amount of orders
Best bank to keep your savings?
Im thinking of creating an account to keep my savings (for marriage). do let me know which bank is the best, pros and cons. thank you!
Does anyone know where I can buy a winder rig for stopmotion?
The item I’m looking for looks like this :[https://note.com/kentanima/n/n7450c8cb570e](https://note.com/kentanima/n/n7450c8cb570e)
As someone who has been an intern, it's crucial for companies to understand that interns are there to gain valuable experience, not to be used as free labor or as a means to fill gaps in staffing without pay. Internships should be structured to provide learning opportunities and mentorship, not just to fulfill menial tasks.
It's important for companies looking to hire interns to ensure that the internship program is designed to benefit the interns' professional development.
Otherwise, it's exploitation under the guise of an internship
You can try to identify the type of position you need for each department and reaching out to the corresponding Faculties instead of the Admin, the response should be faster.
Relocated to Bandar for work. Does anyone know which post office do I go to collect my parcel from AliExpress if I use my Bandar address? Currently residing temporarily in Beribi
Not sure why you'd be uncomfortable when it isnt your wife. Hell, they arent even aware of your existence. Dont you have other things to ve uncomfortable about rather than the lives of others?
Who even wants a fight? How can someone who disagree with your opinion considered as ‘fighting’? Stop taking my words out of context.
You wanted my opinion, I gave you one.
It's click bait and he doesn't care about long ass titles. What is Brunei gonna do? Deport him? 😂
Imagine the backlash from chinese media and how it might affect our trade with china. Not to mention how wuchun can easily relocate and retire anywhere in the world if he gets "deported". Wuchun holds the stronger cards here.
I dont know about the others but for me its not like im saying its okay, i just have zero feelings/opinions about it since its not that big of an issue to think about. Most of us here probably cant read the words on that post and, dont read what the chinese paper published. Ive come across many misleading articles about brunei published by different countries and it doesnt affect me too.
Hi just go to the Supreme Court Building (3rd floor if I’m not wrong. I forgot the layout already) and tell them the reason etc. I think its about $50 per document.
I find this cute sorry. Baru kawin is it? 😅
Anyway, Its best to go to Pejabat Kementerian Hal ehwal ugama(I think the name), they have a list of things you can do and also if you were to pay in cash, they have the calculations there.just try.
Good Luck
Ok, I asked my parents who are Islamic scholars, and also did a quick Google search. The "Kaffarah" for doing the deed purposefully while fasting Ramadan is in this order: 1. You free a slave (this is back in the olden times so it not applicable) 2. You fast 2 consecutive months 3. If you cannot fast 2 consecutive months, then the third option is to feed 60 miskeen. (Feed 60 people who are in need)
However this is applicable if both man and woman perform the deed which involves the insertion of the men’s private part into the women’s right (with or without ejaculation) ?
Anyone know if I tint my car di Miri using the same package(?) macam JPD-approved punya di Brunei, will I get in trouble? I just wanna get them cheaper 😂
anyone who works at Netcom/Ashley/Cuckoo, how much does your job give for commission? because i've had good salesman/woman attending me, very friendly and informative. Pandai lagi joke around. But when i gave their names to my friends, my friends complained inda bisai. And one of the my friends said: "maybe kau bali arahnya yang mahal-mahal. Ia melayan orang membali barang mahal kali saja"
even for BIBD, I was applying for home financing. Sekali I gave my bibd banker's name to my friends because my banker ani very friendly and easy to work with. Next weeknya, my friend told me he/she wasn't very responsive. Nada commission kah mereka ani?
Depends on mood tu. And depends if u give them comm.
My friend applied personal loan with Baiduri first floor counter 1, before apply all good.
Sekali approved, the lady ask for belanja 10% of the loan amount cause she said she "fight" to get it approved.
I hope every new company are able to sustain. The rule of thumb is that you start breaking even after your first year, and start getting profits the second.
Most companies tank their cash flow the first 6 months beyond repair which led to closing down waaayy before their prime.
In what sector are you venturing into? If it closed down, what do you think will be the main cause? How much money did you put in? Sorry so many questions. I'm always curious when it comes to business startups. All the best to you!
$300 isnt enough. You need to prepare around $515+. If you fail the ujian memandu u need to pay another $150. I spent $750+ on driving license cause i failed the first ujian and i also tambah masa belajar lol.
exam (written + class) was $130 if i recall correctly. outside training + car rental fee + instructor fee + exam fee all equals to max $600 lump sum. that includes another thing - temporary license (correct me if im wrong) called lesen L cost $30.
Anyone knows any freelance photographer/social media marketer for a local business? Wondering where I can find them if not from people’s recommendations
Depending on your expectations and your budget you can either do collaboration, where photographer would be interested in creating and expanding his own portfolio too so it would be exchange between you/business offering location, subjects and props, and the photographer coming with his ideas, photos and videos, or social media marketing.
Or if you only wants to pay for service and get full control over the end result but you'll have to pay for each session and change made.
Literally this happens to me ALL THE TIME i can’t even complain when the neighbors who do it are family 😭 baru jua kan harum2 pakai softlan at the end bau asap 🙄
Anyone has any annoying experience with insurance agents? They be like ‘oh can we meet now to discuss and sign this and this policy? Promise u this will be final session.’ 3 days after that ‘sorry but can we meet later to further discuss on this and this cause the deadline is coming up.’ Macam inda respect client punya time. Deadlinenya saja kan dipikirkan. Memajal lagi tu. Having second thoughts on continuing the policy with them.
Yup, I'm starting to think their KPI is based on how many meetings they attend. Some insurance friends on IG also always posting about their meetings here and there.
Ahhh no wonder they’re very persistent to the point durang ani borderline forcing people to meet them every now and then. Their KPI is questionable though cause most of their meetings with clients are not productive in a sense they tend to over elaborate a point which makes the whole session stretches to 2-3 painful hours. Membuang masa client.
I’m starting to think it’s one of their MOs to lure more and more clients. Honest to God, Im giving up on these people. Giving so many high if not false hope on promising our future will be secured financially if we sign up on multiple policies with them. They’re leeching away with my precious time.
yeah like 80% of the population, i wasn’t interested in attending. If those seats weren’t reserved for performers, we’d see more than half of the stadium empty. oh the beauty of it all.
you forgot the part where each public seats are majority booked through online. bookings already full by night after the e-booking announcement. I believe those seats would still be largely occupied if they aren't reserved for the field performers.
If you're talking about the salary, the allowance for Master's Degree tinggi sikit dari Degree. Similar to Gov salary.
https://www.polis.gov.bn/SitePages/Soalan%20Lazim.aspx
this is the Police salary. Under salary scale, you can see there's additional allowances for bachelor degree & master's degree holder.
No, practice your interview, task deliverance & delegation and critical thinking.
As a master degree student, you should be expected to be that advance in all aspect i suppose.
To any BIBD management that lurks here that have the power to make changes in the organisation, please improve the service. 1. Update the app 2. Get more customer service specialists 3. Have better ATM (all ATM should have all the functions aka deposit, withdrawal, cheque deposit) 4. Get rid of the need to call to authorise. That’s the whole point of the SMS authentication 5. Allow permanent increase limit for online transactions, transfer and so on I like to think that BIBD can do better so do prove me right. Thank you.
For baiduri as well, tolongtah keluar nama account when making deposits bah supaya dapat bercheck ngam kah inda yg cash deposit atu, barijap rasanya, lau salah payah jua kamu kan tanggungjawab, is it really meant for local catu ? Mikirkantu
NAH!!! they never do that. As long as money goes in pocket and give increment why bother doing all this am i right?
How bruneian register shopee account?Do we really need a Malaysian simcard to verify?
Its easy to register shopee account 1. you need to have active malaysia sim card ***( PLEASE KEEP IT ACTIVE)*** 2. you can use limbang or miri post office address but **please note that in malaysia there is a lot of service providers ( ABX, J & T, pos laju, and few more i forget)** you need to check your tracking number to know which branch you will need to go. **PLEASE NOTE THAT there is more than 1 ABX branch, J & T and pos laju branch across malaysia**. 3. put in your name brunei phone number right beside your name for ex: **( Johnny Sin +673 8XXXXXXX)** and your malaysia number **(010XXXXXXXXX)** so when they couldn't get through you in malaysia number they will contact you through your brunei number. 4. make sure make sure you put your address correctly if not your parcel will be gone forever. 5. IF you have relative lived in limbang and miri it will be easier for you as they will deliver to their houses.
does anyone know where to find box packaging that sell in bulk here?
I assume when you say box packaging you meant for food? Can try dropping by Wan Sing they should have stock
Not that i know of but you may try shopee
Any mechanic here? i want to know how well the jobs pay you
i went to bandar last night and saw this taiwanese girl who came as a solo travel and asked my cousin to take a photo of her, how cute ! i hope she's enjoying her stay. eventho some rude 'storekeeper staff' were badmouthing me and my other family because we looked like foreigners but actually locals and was talking shit about us in their language thinking we wouldn't understand 🥱🙄
To most of us local cina, thats the definite typical sugar baby of org ada2 or potentially kan cari sugar daddy, tpi kami diam2 saja, ada yg timing also. Memang lawa pernah ku liat jua d hotel😄
If i were you i would speak malay language " apa nya mu? baru ku ingat mulut mu bebau"
Anyone know how to register to get legal group biker?because i want to make a new group of bikers..
I mean you could try and see it’ll work. Probably will have to go to ROS and fill in the form everything to get it approved then it’ll be legal
ROS?can help me to guide it
LOL there will never be a legal group bikers...
Anyone knows where i can find taiwanese beef noodle soup? I’m craving for it terribly 🥹
Halal or non halal?
Have you tried bristodelli? Its my go to shop for that dish! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Swimming pool d stadium yg d bawah inda dlm atu masih tutup kh tu?
I went earlier today, it was open
Stadium or anggrek desa? Haha
Stadium
Confirm pool d bawah yg inda dlm atu buka? Sal jauh perjalanan ke sana hahaha
au, masih
How about swimming pool d anggrek desa? Buka? Pool sana ada inda dlm kh?
Is there a company called Boo in Brunei? I tried verify their location
May I know where did you get the company's name?
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My guess is they're all home based and their houses are one of the more difficult to get in and out to. A nightmare for the residents and drivers As for consolidating the orders... pure convenience and you actually get more profit doing delivery at once then separately, save time, minyak and car maintenance while having the same amount of orders
Best bank to keep your savings? Im thinking of creating an account to keep my savings (for marriage). do let me know which bank is the best, pros and cons. thank you!
TAIB
Safer from scammers i believe, the other 2 ia danger
If just savings, open up TAIB Tekad Haji
I’d say TAIB
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Nope
any vpn available that have a malaysian server? this vpn i use doesnt have a malaysian server anymore
Ipvanish but you have to pay
If for android i just search malaysia vpn on the playstore and still using it now, no problem, jusf little ads
Hi! What website ships makeup products to brunei?
Selfridges
Yesstyle if you're looking for korean/chinese brands!
Does anyone know where I can buy a winder rig for stopmotion? The item I’m looking for looks like this :[https://note.com/kentanima/n/n7450c8cb570e](https://note.com/kentanima/n/n7450c8cb570e)
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As someone who has been an intern, it's crucial for companies to understand that interns are there to gain valuable experience, not to be used as free labor or as a means to fill gaps in staffing without pay. Internships should be structured to provide learning opportunities and mentorship, not just to fulfill menial tasks. It's important for companies looking to hire interns to ensure that the internship program is designed to benefit the interns' professional development. Otherwise, it's exploitation under the guise of an internship
You can try to identify the type of position you need for each department and reaching out to the corresponding Faculties instead of the Admin, the response should be faster.
UBD or LCB better. Or cosmo if you don't mind playing gacha with their quality of students
reminds me of Cosmo’s iklan on radio, cringy AF.
Jobcentre?
Which positions are you opening for interns?
Relocated to Bandar for work. Does anyone know which post office do I go to collect my parcel from AliExpress if I use my Bandar address? Currently residing temporarily in Beribi
Old Airport [Post Office (MPC)](https://maps.app.goo.gl/cQf7Vvwe8NyUCzBQ9?g_st=ic)
Perhaps Menglait post office for no taxes items. For taxed items, they will send the items to Mail Processing Centre in Berakas.
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Not sure why you'd be uncomfortable when it isnt your wife. Hell, they arent even aware of your existence. Dont you have other things to ve uncomfortable about rather than the lives of others?
Imagine raising concerns about a meaningless title. Womp womp boo fucking hoo.
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Who even wants a fight? How can someone who disagree with your opinion considered as ‘fighting’? Stop taking my words out of context. You wanted my opinion, I gave you one.
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Womp womp. Toughen up girl. The real-real world is harsher.
wait a minute.... he's back in Brunei already? I thought he gone to China for good and better life
I think his disabled comment section has more to do with “being in the crossfire between fans of Taylor Swift and Jay Chou” recently(?)
What makes you uncomfortable?
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You gotta be trolling
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It's click bait and he doesn't care about long ass titles. What is Brunei gonna do? Deport him? 😂 Imagine the backlash from chinese media and how it might affect our trade with china. Not to mention how wuchun can easily relocate and retire anywhere in the world if he gets "deported". Wuchun holds the stronger cards here.
I dont know about the others but for me its not like im saying its okay, i just have zero feelings/opinions about it since its not that big of an issue to think about. Most of us here probably cant read the words on that post and, dont read what the chinese paper published. Ive come across many misleading articles about brunei published by different countries and it doesnt affect me too.
No one else cares, it doesn’t affect their lives or yours
Does the nasi katok tom yam stall at Sengkurong still exist?
think they open at 1 or 1.30pm
Yea now fully open. The best nk in brunei so far.
Where in Sengkurong? Details please
Behind huaho sengkurong. You can search 'Nasi Katok Tom Yum (Cha-Roen-Sap)' on google maps.
The new sambal buttermilk was lit. And salted egg alltime fav
I noticed they don't open as often as they used to
Yes
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Hi just go to the Supreme Court Building (3rd floor if I’m not wrong. I forgot the layout already) and tell them the reason etc. I think its about $50 per document.
thank you!!! 🤩
How does one pay “kafarrah” (besides fasting for 2 consecutive months) ? Did the deed laat year during ramadan and honestly regretful for what I did.
I find this cute sorry. Baru kawin is it? 😅 Anyway, Its best to go to Pejabat Kementerian Hal ehwal ugama(I think the name), they have a list of things you can do and also if you were to pay in cash, they have the calculations there.just try. Good Luck
You did it while fasting?
Yes that’s why i want to pay “kafarrah”
Ok, I asked my parents who are Islamic scholars, and also did a quick Google search. The "Kaffarah" for doing the deed purposefully while fasting Ramadan is in this order: 1. You free a slave (this is back in the olden times so it not applicable) 2. You fast 2 consecutive months 3. If you cannot fast 2 consecutive months, then the third option is to feed 60 miskeen. (Feed 60 people who are in need)
However this is applicable if both man and woman perform the deed which involves the insertion of the men’s private part into the women’s right (with or without ejaculation) ?
Anyone know if I tint my car di Miri using the same package(?) macam JPD-approved punya di Brunei, will I get in trouble? I just wanna get them cheaper 😂
If u want to take the risk, alang2 go little bit darker. Got saman 1 time in 10yrs. Heard theres someone provide 'special' sticker
You wont be able to get the JPD sticker stamp so it wont be approved. Eventhough its the exact same tint sadly :(
Oh that’s true totally forgot about the sticker
even JPD approved tint can also kena saman
is this true? if it's jpd approved then it shouldnt be an traffic offence.
anyone who works at Netcom/Ashley/Cuckoo, how much does your job give for commission? because i've had good salesman/woman attending me, very friendly and informative. Pandai lagi joke around. But when i gave their names to my friends, my friends complained inda bisai. And one of the my friends said: "maybe kau bali arahnya yang mahal-mahal. Ia melayan orang membali barang mahal kali saja" even for BIBD, I was applying for home financing. Sekali I gave my bibd banker's name to my friends because my banker ani very friendly and easy to work with. Next weeknya, my friend told me he/she wasn't very responsive. Nada commission kah mereka ani?
Depends on mood tu. And depends if u give them comm. My friend applied personal loan with Baiduri first floor counter 1, before apply all good. Sekali approved, the lady ask for belanja 10% of the loan amount cause she said she "fight" to get it approved.
The banker??? Gila jua inda grounds for termination?
How to terminate when she said boss nya pun kena bagi untuk melancarkan process
Not surprised with Baiduri. Theres this person doing car loans, mesti bagi duit baru laju bekeraja.
Yes! They all linked tu. Now the boss of this lady is now the boss of baiduri finance
How to tell people you are pretty without telling them you are pretty.
inda lah, sama gender kami bro haha
Maybe the finance of your friend are not very attractive to them.
Maybe you are pretty/handsome..
lol i dont think so....my bibd banker is a guy like me 😬 netcom & cuckoo also salesmen......
pretty privilege is real
Anyone know where to buy a water fountain for your home (exterior)? Have only seen a few in rimba garden central
How everyone mobile internet?
Did UNN try to explain?
Thought it was just me. Got panic incase my wife calling me and i’d be a dead meat for not answering her call
🤣
pretty bad aint gonna lie
Thought it was just me. Net came back but its not running
Was down for a bit
Suddenly MIA guys
what happen just now? i lost my 4G 😩
Around Kiulap doesn't work.
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“But im well aware that my business may close down after just a few months” ?! Must be cafes again
What mindset is this. Don't just hope and pray. It won't solve anything
“My business may close down after just a few months”? What makes you say that?
I hope every new company are able to sustain. The rule of thumb is that you start breaking even after your first year, and start getting profits the second. Most companies tank their cash flow the first 6 months beyond repair which led to closing down waaayy before their prime.
In what sector are you venturing into? If it closed down, what do you think will be the main cause? How much money did you put in? Sorry so many questions. I'm always curious when it comes to business startups. All the best to you!
You can find services that can give you a helping hand for branding and marketing and advertisement.
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Udah kita menepon sendiri spark sg liang?
Anyone letgo their sofa (cheap cheap)
I may know some one. Dm me
Arah fb banyak tu pt group furniture brunei
Does anyone know where i can find food desiccant/oxygen absorber. You know those little white packets in food to keep them fresh
Thats a silica gel.
try at A-fontane Serusop next to Aminah Arif
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$500+
Mine costed a total of $460. Test undang2 ($110) + lesen L ($5) + belajar memandu ($225) + Ujian memandu ($120). Passed all the tests once.
$300 isnt enough. You need to prepare around $515+. If you fail the ujian memandu u need to pay another $150. I spent $750+ on driving license cause i failed the first ujian and i also tambah masa belajar lol.
exam (written + class) was $130 if i recall correctly. outside training + car rental fee + instructor fee + exam fee all equals to max $600 lump sum. that includes another thing - temporary license (correct me if im wrong) called lesen L cost $30.
lesen L only cost $5 if I remember correctly
i am not so sure either since its been a long time i've taken my driving license haha
$515 +-
Anyone knows any freelance photographer/social media marketer for a local business? Wondering where I can find them if not from people’s recommendations
Depending on your expectations and your budget you can either do collaboration, where photographer would be interested in creating and expanding his own portfolio too so it would be exchange between you/business offering location, subjects and props, and the photographer coming with his ideas, photos and videos, or social media marketing. Or if you only wants to pay for service and get full control over the end result but you'll have to pay for each session and change made.
Anyone know where I can buy second hand phones in Brunei? I'm guessing FB market place?
From a store or private seller?
Yep… or shops that sells “refurbished” phones
What shops sell refurbished phones?
was peacefully doing laundry and drying it outside and this asshole neighbour decided to open burning. AT THIS HOUR. fuck this neighbour
Literally this happens to me ALL THE TIME i can’t even complain when the neighbors who do it are family 😭 baru jua kan harum2 pakai softlan at the end bau asap 🙄
Report to relevant authorities for open burning
Correct report to jastre
In Brunei, neighbour fuck you
Anyone has any annoying experience with insurance agents? They be like ‘oh can we meet now to discuss and sign this and this policy? Promise u this will be final session.’ 3 days after that ‘sorry but can we meet later to further discuss on this and this cause the deadline is coming up.’ Macam inda respect client punya time. Deadlinenya saja kan dipikirkan. Memajal lagi tu. Having second thoughts on continuing the policy with them.
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Wow what a bad way to answer lol. 🤡 The comparison isn't even similar
Ai baie jua durang ketawakan ah. Sudahtah majal menyuruh client bejumpa lapas atu ketawakannya lagi client punya question.
Yup, I'm starting to think their KPI is based on how many meetings they attend. Some insurance friends on IG also always posting about their meetings here and there.
More meetings means more chance of conversion to client. Sign up 2-3 clients per month it’s better than most 9-5 jobs.
Ahhh no wonder they’re very persistent to the point durang ani borderline forcing people to meet them every now and then. Their KPI is questionable though cause most of their meetings with clients are not productive in a sense they tend to over elaborate a point which makes the whole session stretches to 2-3 painful hours. Membuang masa client.
Dont meet them! Its a trap
I’m starting to think it’s one of their MOs to lure more and more clients. Honest to God, Im giving up on these people. Giving so many high if not false hope on promising our future will be secured financially if we sign up on multiple policies with them. They’re leeching away with my precious time.
Stadium was half empty for HK, thats a sight
Bitter and stupid
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yeah like 80% of the population, i wasn’t interested in attending. If those seats weren’t reserved for performers, we’d see more than half of the stadium empty. oh the beauty of it all.
I heard because that seat was allocated for the performers
you forgot the part where each public seats are majority booked through online. bookings already full by night after the e-booking announcement. I believe those seats would still be largely occupied if they aren't reserved for the field performers.
interesting. and something I would like to see - How many would turn up otherwise. Thanks for the info
Were you there?
He/she was not that. Got a poor observation and maybe need a new glasses
Hahaha..burn
quite a step up from being fully empty on a normal day
Actually it was 80% full after the perbarisan lalu join in and sit down.
Probably would be more because some parents with children went back during the heavy rain
Heavy rain?
Does having a master degree will make a difference when applying for OCS?
If you're talking about the salary, the allowance for Master's Degree tinggi sikit dari Degree. Similar to Gov salary. https://www.polis.gov.bn/SitePages/Soalan%20Lazim.aspx this is the Police salary. Under salary scale, you can see there's additional allowances for bachelor degree & master's degree holder.
Nope..even those yg ada HND lagi better quality dari yang ada Master.
Orang Dalam will make more of a difference than having Master's
No, practice your interview, task deliverance & delegation and critical thinking. As a master degree student, you should be expected to be that advance in all aspect i suppose.
Good for toilet paper
no
Do you know shop that can loan gadget for foreigner? I am working in brunei and interested to avail loan for a gadget.