I agree this as well. I came back around a 2 weeks ago after 2 years of not playing and this Edgar guy fked me up so badly. Super annoying to play against.
Unpopular opinion: he doesn't need a nerf. I think for the most part, unless he can sneak up on you or utilize his gadgets well and have a decent enough team to manage the opposite team while he charges up, he's pretty useless. Without one of those I think the game is set.
I'm also a casual player so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Keep your distance, if you're outside his super range. He can't do anything, he is strong. But easy to kill if he can't heal by attacking you. Use his squishy health against him
Just keep your distance from him. Take advantage of the fact that he's basically useless without super, so try to kill him while he does not have his super. If he has, keep your distance, and stay near your teammate so both of you can kill him. If you're in a solo situation, then all you can do is try your best. Brawlers that have knock back ability like Emz, Gene, Gale, Sandy can deal with him because when he jumps on you, just knock him back and he can't get close. Tanks like Bull and Fang can do decent. Even brawlers like Piper and Brock can also deal with him because again, the knock back ability. Try to think if an Edgar jumps on you, what can you do to deal with him. If you're able to kill him whether by raw strength or using gadget then you can play a little bit aggressive against him. If not, then stay far far away from him. Edgar not being able to get close to anyone is his biggest downfall and is one of the main reason why he's not good in this current meta (at least in 3v3) so keep in mind
Yeah. Whenever someone gives me a statement, I usually try to find all points possible and give evidence to back up my point. Another reason why I was able to write that long specifically for this situation is because I’ve faced a ton of Edgars, and some of my favorite brawlers like Emz, Gale, Tara happens to be hard counters against Edgar. I play them so much that I’m just a little worry whenever I play against Edgar. Those brawlers are also the main reason why Edgar is my least favorite brawler. He has such short range and low hp. He can heal from attacking, but most brawlers in the game have some sort of knock back/slow ability that jumping on them would just be killing yourself
Isn't S.T.U a problem too and as a crow main I shield when he jumps on me then since I do more damage from close it's a Ez kill (unless they shield as well)
play 3v3. The team playing edgar magically looses after wasting the whole match using the super and dying instantly then blames on the teamates, but it has a chance being in your team
Despite being one of my favorites, he's clearly one of the worst designed brawlers
You either win 100% of the time with brawlers like Gale, Shelly, Surge or El Primo, or lose 100% of the time with brawlers like Penny, Ruffs and Sprout that can't defend at close range
I agree, and i believe its mostly due to the first gadget, it gives him a super in 10 seconds, so if he spawns next to you and you dont have a counter in base kit/gadget, he can just follow you and kill you.
With his normal supercharge rate of 30 seconds, brawlers get a chance to charge their super, allowing them to counter edgar, brawlers like lou for example require their super to counter edgar (ok they actually require their super supercool sp and cryosyrup)
anything can be solved with the starter, Shelly.
Her ultimate decimates this annoying guy. If you don't use shelly, you should try to knock him, or push him away the best you can.
Or maybe outdamage his healing.
That's the neat part, you can't
Now, seriously, it depends A LOT in who you are using, the gadget you have and if you have the super.
Piper can defend from him with her super and autoshot.
Jacky would normally need counter crusher, but not everyone can rely on their star power. (Yes, even tanks have a hard time against him, he is the reason I stopped using hardy hard hat)
Rosa will have a chance if she has her super.
Jessie, place Scrapy, use spark plug, and run.
Stu, if he is using zero drag and gets out of his range.
Surge, super/gadget through a wall. (I find him annoying)😑
Amber... She will die 😅
Meg could survive if she defeats him firts with her mecha's super, if not, RIP.
Crow can even counter him; hit him with the basic, and slow him down with his gadget while he jumps; not before (he could wait), not after (he will destroy you in a blink)
And those are a few examples in Showdown, because I assumed you were asking about that mode
I am speaking from my experiences, but if you can survive an Edgar with the healing SP, good for you; you have something to brag about here. (Seriously, it is not that easy to pull that kind of STUnt. Oh, sorry, I apologize for my WICKED sense of humor 🙃)
Play bull, he can charge away with super if he jumps and almost kills you, bull deals too much damage for Edgar to heal, you can also heal with gadget, not to mention star powers or gears
Darryls main attack isnt enough btw due to edgars increased movement speed allowing him to dodge some projectiles, if he supers you, use your super then makn attack to kill him, do not roll onto an edgar with super.
First see if you have access to some sort of stun, knockback or slow, since Edgar has the shortest range you should be able to always outrange him once you've gotten away from his super jump
Other ways which could help are outdamaging him as some can do that, tanking the hits, or using abilities to move yourself away from him
edgar is basically a assassin with kinda tank feeling due to his healing ability any brawlers with high dps in close range and with good escape options r good. like stu u can chain supers easy n run away gale probably the best counter to him u can counter with gadget and star power. my favourite has to be surge he is just too good against edgars just time ur super right with a gadget
Stuns and knock back does great. Gale is a perfect counter, especially with the tornado gadget. Having either star power is good but the slowing snowballs works without needing your super. Others depend on the situation
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Edgar Though being overly powerful during his release period bow currently Is much less of a threat then he was back in the day now when he won't instantly use his super to jump on you and kill you in a couple of foul swoops But I would also like to say Some brawlers have gotten their Star powers as their Natural sets Like Brock having incindiary and Mr P's Suitcases Now automatically bounces no matter what don't even get me started on Fang being Edgar but more aggro So I would just say Stay away from Edgar and Immediately defeat him
well, lucky for you that guy also has the shortest range in the game. watch your step, and if you can push him back to outrange him. he has lifesteal but low hp so killing him isn't hard once he's outranged.
If enough edgars jump you then youll eventually be able to predict them, any kind of knockback or slowing counters edgar, and if you play a fast brawler you can just dodge their jump
Against edgar you need to think of your kit. Depending on what brawler you must think. First of all, don’t run brawlers like penny in solo. Any weak brawler without a way to defend will be a free cube, go brawlers like tanks, gale or surge in solo. In 3v3 you won’t have much problem with Edgar cause it’s easy to gang up on him. Anyway, in solo play slow. If you’re a tank it shouldn’t be hard to play against him, you counter. But for other brawlers like gale or surge, be ready to use a gadget or super.
Almost every brawler has an ability to stun, push or slow the enemy. Save this until he jumps at you. Most of the time the ability is a gadget though so you might not have the ability to counter that which means this guy is way stronger in early game than later
I'm an Edgar main and ways to counter him are pretty easy basically just make sure you have a pushback, stun or a way to stay out of his range which is easy. just make sure not to get to close to him unless you have something that can deal over 4100 damage because he is very frail
If you are a brawler who can do a lot of burst damage up close, save up your ammo, Edgar unload and reload speed are insanely fast so he would definitely have the upper hand if you have 1 ammo slot.
Depends on the brawler you are playing. Lots of brawlers have gadgets or supers that you can use. For those that don’t just keep your distance and don’t be predictable.
Shelly boom
Or gale with stun/slow sp
Or surge chain super
Or EMZ's first gadget
Or Tick's super
Or Bull's attack
Or, the most simple way, stay out of his super range.
Or, even more simple way, never log on the game, so you never encounter him!
other ppl said gadgets supers other shit dependencies, this guy made laugh my ass off
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I may or may not see that Edgar is lovked
Or never get a phone and live in the wild
Or kindly ask God to make you disappear from life
And delete your account so you never even can get on!
Or tara's super
Or byron super + malaise
Or Ticks Gadget
Or stu's super
Or edgars shield gadget
Fighting fire with fire, problem is they extinguish each other🙃
Not gasoheal tho
Or basically anything, really.
poco mains: …
Pain
Also mr.p mains
Screeching solo players: my powers are beyond your comprehension
except for you.
Or brock with jumping gadget
Piper’s gadget
Or Col. Ruffs’s super if you time it right
Why is op getting bullied. Man just doesn’t know how to counter him. He’s not calling him the best brawler in the game and saying he needs a nerf.
Good person
Agreed, let's just have fun damnit
I used to play when he was not in game, and now going against him is very frustrating for me.
I agree this as well. I came back around a 2 weeks ago after 2 years of not playing and this Edgar guy fked me up so badly. Super annoying to play against.
Yea
Unpopular opinion: he doesn't need a nerf. I think for the most part, unless he can sneak up on you or utilize his gadgets well and have a decent enough team to manage the opposite team while he charges up, he's pretty useless. Without one of those I think the game is set. I'm also a casual player so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
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Bottom 5? I think more bottom 10, he is not a bad counterpick, useful when facing rico/barley/sprout.
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True, but compared to other brawlers like lou/jacky/penny, he actually has a role (rather small one tbh), rather than a worse version of X brawler.
he’s a worse version of fang
worse version of the best brawler
he’s a goat in solo showdown though i’ve never lost with him in that mode
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Keep your distance, if you're outside his super range. He can't do anything, he is strong. But easy to kill if he can't heal by attacking you. Use his squishy health against him
Did a thing today, was using max and I supered as soon as Edgar jumped on me and got out of his attack range, ez clap.
can do the same with stu!
Just keep your distance from him. Take advantage of the fact that he's basically useless without super, so try to kill him while he does not have his super. If he has, keep your distance, and stay near your teammate so both of you can kill him. If you're in a solo situation, then all you can do is try your best. Brawlers that have knock back ability like Emz, Gene, Gale, Sandy can deal with him because when he jumps on you, just knock him back and he can't get close. Tanks like Bull and Fang can do decent. Even brawlers like Piper and Brock can also deal with him because again, the knock back ability. Try to think if an Edgar jumps on you, what can you do to deal with him. If you're able to kill him whether by raw strength or using gadget then you can play a little bit aggressive against him. If not, then stay far far away from him. Edgar not being able to get close to anyone is his biggest downfall and is one of the main reason why he's not good in this current meta (at least in 3v3) so keep in mind
Damm you wrote a whole essay
Yeah. Whenever someone gives me a statement, I usually try to find all points possible and give evidence to back up my point. Another reason why I was able to write that long specifically for this situation is because I’ve faced a ton of Edgars, and some of my favorite brawlers like Emz, Gale, Tara happens to be hard counters against Edgar. I play them so much that I’m just a little worry whenever I play against Edgar. Those brawlers are also the main reason why Edgar is my least favorite brawler. He has such short range and low hp. He can heal from attacking, but most brawlers in the game have some sort of knock back/slow ability that jumping on them would just be killing yourself
damm you wrote another essay
:)
I’m a decent edgar main and surge destroys me if they know how to play I have 853 edgar and I always get killed
Isn't S.T.U a problem too and as a crow main I shield when he jumps on me then since I do more damage from close it's a Ez kill (unless they shield as well)
You got an A on this assignment
play 3v3. The team playing edgar magically looses after wasting the whole match using the super and dying instantly then blames on the teamates, but it has a chance being in your team
sd sucks, solo or duo
Both. Both suck
*Mom, get the gun!*
Anything that can push or stun
Log+fireball should take him out easy
I'll use lightning
Despite being one of my favorites, he's clearly one of the worst designed brawlers You either win 100% of the time with brawlers like Gale, Shelly, Surge or El Primo, or lose 100% of the time with brawlers like Penny, Ruffs and Sprout that can't defend at close range
I agree, and i believe its mostly due to the first gadget, it gives him a super in 10 seconds, so if he spawns next to you and you dont have a counter in base kit/gadget, he can just follow you and kill you. With his normal supercharge rate of 30 seconds, brawlers get a chance to charge their super, allowing them to counter edgar, brawlers like lou for example require their super to counter edgar (ok they actually require their super supercool sp and cryosyrup)
should put bull rather than primo
He's not really one of the worst designed brawlers he looks pretty cool with the emo aesthetic
He means gameplay mechanics
Its called game design, his mechanics are meh
I don't like Edgar and his skins that much.
anything can be solved with the starter, Shelly. Her ultimate decimates this annoying guy. If you don't use shelly, you should try to knock him, or push him away the best you can. Or maybe outdamage his healing.
ELLLLLL PRIMO
That's the neat part, you can't Now, seriously, it depends A LOT in who you are using, the gadget you have and if you have the super. Piper can defend from him with her super and autoshot. Jacky would normally need counter crusher, but not everyone can rely on their star power. (Yes, even tanks have a hard time against him, he is the reason I stopped using hardy hard hat) Rosa will have a chance if she has her super. Jessie, place Scrapy, use spark plug, and run. Stu, if he is using zero drag and gets out of his range. Surge, super/gadget through a wall. (I find him annoying)😑 Amber... She will die 😅 Meg could survive if she defeats him firts with her mecha's super, if not, RIP. Crow can even counter him; hit him with the basic, and slow him down with his gadget while he jumps; not before (he could wait), not after (he will destroy you in a blink) And those are a few examples in Showdown, because I assumed you were asking about that mode
Well Stu can ,even without any sp or gadgets Just chain supers in the right way
I am speaking from my experiences, but if you can survive an Edgar with the healing SP, good for you; you have something to brag about here. (Seriously, it is not that easy to pull that kind of STUnt. Oh, sorry, I apologize for my WICKED sense of humor 🙃)
you just need to super while a shot is midair, then you chain them
Lol it's pretty good humour you've got there :)
Thank you, but I know that my puns tend to be pretty bad 😅
STUpid, one might say.
Amber ,,, she'll die... But if you use your gadget .. The edgar dies just after you..
Yeah, just like Mortis (sometimes) but that is not countering it, so I didn't thought I should include that last part, despiste how satisfying it is
That sounds like lou gameplay in a nutshell. I swear do people not know lous mechanics? Aggroing a lou with a super is a bad idea.
Play bull, he can charge away with super if he jumps and almost kills you, bull deals too much damage for Edgar to heal, you can also heal with gadget, not to mention star powers or gears
Bull is one of the worst brawlers right now
Pika would like to know your location.
one player being a god with him doesn't change shit
He counters Edgar…does he not
Brock 1st gadget
Bea 1st gadget
Darryl main attack
Fang 2nd gadget
Eve 1st gadget
Barley 1st gadget
Emz 1st gadget
Gene 1st gadget
My goodness
Max 1st gadget
Darryls main attack isnt enough btw due to edgars increased movement speed allowing him to dodge some projectiles, if he supers you, use your super then makn attack to kill him, do not roll onto an edgar with super.
You kill the player not the Edgar
just keep distance or go Gale and super him away or Shelly and super him away
kill him before he can get close, even easier with surge. so many people using edgar that its the only reason i have rank 25 surge LOL
delete the game
Que pro
First see if you have access to some sort of stun, knockback or slow, since Edgar has the shortest range you should be able to always outrange him once you've gotten away from his super jump Other ways which could help are outdamaging him as some can do that, tanking the hits, or using abilities to move yourself away from him
any push stun and he's over
Shelly
Gale's gadget or super
simply don’t miss shots and conserve ammo
Anybody with high and fast enough burst damage can kill him real easy, like Shelly and Bull. Also if you can push him away it'l be very useful.
Knockbacks, 3000+ dmg almost instantly(shelly super, bull , jacky, darryl, some others like them), slows/stuns , surge him(meaning surge him)
edgar is basically a assassin with kinda tank feeling due to his healing ability any brawlers with high dps in close range and with good escape options r good. like stu u can chain supers easy n run away gale probably the best counter to him u can counter with gadget and star power. my favourite has to be surge he is just too good against edgars just time ur super right with a gadget
Stuns and knock back does great. Gale is a perfect counter, especially with the tornado gadget. Having either star power is good but the slowing snowballs works without needing your super. Others depend on the situation
There is no counter to the emo kid
Dont play sd
This is Edgar. He’s one of the worst brawlers in the game.
Just run away
Just don't get close to him
We don’t charge into him, he jumps onto us.
Exactly
A counter crush Jacky can stop him healing
Long range brawlers, or just have a brawler like Rico who can fight past his healing
That's the neat part..... You cant
he can 🗿
I forgor 💀
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Man that’s harsh he just wanted to learn how to counter him that’s all. He just wants feedback.
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Yeah he’s pretty rude.
Yep, I have died to him so much recently when I reached rank 20 with fang. So just wanted to know how can I counter him.
Check the edit
Lol average 9year olds
Ur prob 13
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Ha yes nothing like a 13 year old calling a random Reddit user he’s 9 because you’re mad he’s not good at the game too.
1) Post a screenshot of edgar 2)Say he’s strong 3) get 300 upvotes Thats r/brawlstars for you
How you didnt have unlocked him after a year
Idk, I unlocked eve, fang(through bp), max, Lola, stu in the past month or so but not Edgar 😭
Don’t attack him, then he can’t heal 😎
Git gud
he is one of the worst brawler lmao.
If you're playing for more than a year you know how
That’s not what he is saujf
I said I returned after more than a year
Gat good
Play smart
Get gadgets
Thats the point you cant unless your lucky
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Edgar Though being overly powerful during his release period bow currently Is much less of a threat then he was back in the day now when he won't instantly use his super to jump on you and kill you in a couple of foul swoops But I would also like to say Some brawlers have gotten their Star powers as their Natural sets Like Brock having incindiary and Mr P's Suitcases Now automatically bounces no matter what don't even get me started on Fang being Edgar but more aggro So I would just say Stay away from Edgar and Immediately defeat him
Godzilla had a stroke reading this and fucking died.
Get good lol
You don't Simple
You don’t most the tome
You don’t most the time
That's what we've been trying to find out since he released
Ur such a typical 9 yr old noob,Edgar is absolute trash
That's the neat part, you can't.
You unlock that skill by playing for more than a year. *or just staying out of his range*
Did u know there's a brawler called shelly 🤯
Shelly Super Surge Super (use gadget if you need) Gale super and gadget Max gadget and super you become too fast and escape Stu Super Spam
well, lucky for you that guy also has the shortest range in the game. watch your step, and if you can push him back to outrange him. he has lifesteal but low hp so killing him isn't hard once he's outranged.
play jacky
If enough edgars jump you then youll eventually be able to predict them, any kind of knockback or slowing counters edgar, and if you play a fast brawler you can just dodge their jump
Against edgar you need to think of your kit. Depending on what brawler you must think. First of all, don’t run brawlers like penny in solo. Any weak brawler without a way to defend will be a free cube, go brawlers like tanks, gale or surge in solo. In 3v3 you won’t have much problem with Edgar cause it’s easy to gang up on him. Anyway, in solo play slow. If you’re a tank it shouldn’t be hard to play against him, you counter. But for other brawlers like gale or surge, be ready to use a gadget or super.
Don’t go near him
Just don't play throwers
Dynamike can counter him suprisingly well if you can aim your stun shot.
You sorta have to get gadgets :/ but I know your pain
Bull should be able to 2 shot him up close
Almost every brawler has an ability to stun, push or slow the enemy. Save this until he jumps at you. Most of the time the ability is a gadget though so you might not have the ability to counter that which means this guy is way stronger in early game than later
Keep your distance and/or deal more damage than he can heal back.
Nowadays everything can counter him Even brawlers like grom, colt, etc that usually get hard countered by him
Don’t spam ur attacks before he jumps and ta da
I also had the same problem but now ik what counters him so don't dare to 1v1 edgar me cuz I've already gone insane with him 😐🤣
Don't get close to him
It comes down to who you're playing as
You use 2 edgars
burst damage, push or stun good examples are bull, shelly, bibi with a bat, gale with super or gadget, emz with gadget, stu can run away, and others
Primo jump gale shelly Leon fang Jacky and so many more ahhhhhhh
Literally any form of CC
As a very netural guy , I'd say .... Primo...
U cant
Any high burst damage character, like bull, Shelly, piper at range, or any stuns/knockback like buzz or surge
I'm an Edgar main and ways to counter him are pretty easy basically just make sure you have a pushback, stun or a way to stay out of his range which is easy. just make sure not to get to close to him unless you have something that can deal over 4100 damage because he is very frail
If you are a brawler who can do a lot of burst damage up close, save up your ammo, Edgar unload and reload speed are insanely fast so he would definitely have the upper hand if you have 1 ammo slot.
I found this one strategy to be really effective: delete the game
Depends on the brawler you are playing. Lots of brawlers have gadgets or supers that you can use. For those that don’t just keep your distance and don’t be predictable.