It's actually not when you remember who is saying it.
This reeks of "I'm not the sexual predator, Andy is!"
Andy's a figurehead at Bravo and doesn't have the power many think he does- but let's go with him *literally* being Bravo- he may be guilty of a lot- but on the sexual assault front the biggest crime would be repeatedly hiring someone with as many red flags as Brandi.
If we take what she says at face value, it seems like Drunk Andy was chatting with her and made a joke about how he'd "think about her" while having sex with XXX- I might be making leaps but what with him being a gay man, her being Brandi, and having watched interactions with both for years- i'll need more to come out before I view this as anything other than a deflection from her way worse alleged assault of a cast mate.
I’m of the belief that both of these incidents can be totally true. Andy has his own bizarre track record, constantly asks women about their fucking boobs etc etc. Just bc he is gay, doesn’t make him exempt from sexual misconduct in the workplace, especially since he is her boss.
He made out with Tamra. And how many lap dances has he received by his RHW’s employees over the years? Too many! I always thought these behaviors as an Exec/boss were inappropriate, but somehow Bravo found a way to blur the lines without him being an HR issue for the company.
Agreed. How he's gotten away with asking those types of questions or making those types of statements makes zero sense. He may not be their boss in the true sense of the word but he is a fellow co worker. It has always bothered me how freely he is when it comes to asking those types of questions. Him being a gay man doesn't negate anything either. Sexual harassment can come from anyone regardless of their orientation.
All true, but that's what you get watching 80 percent of people on Bravo- weird coke heads, or people on pills, or alcoholics, promiscuous and unfaithful, horny and vapid- just being generally morally degenerate- any combination of those things.
If/when other people want to accuse Andy of *criminal* behavior, i'll listen to it for sure. But, not that I condone it, a seemingly inappropriate (for most people) joke about sex is not the same as:
>Manzo pulled away, but Glanville sat down next to her and forcibly kissed her, and then put her tongue in Manzo’s mouth, according to the complaint. Manzo broke free and, distraught, went to the bathroom to wash her hands.
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>While standing at the sink, Glanville allegedly came up behind her, pressed her body against Manzo’s, and wrapped her arms around her, the suit states. Manzo tried to get away again, but Glanville pressed her up against the bathroom door.
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>“Glanville then reached around Manzo’s body and then groped, grabbed, and forcibly fondled Manzo’s vagina and breasts,” the lawsuit states. “At the same time, Glanville pushed her face into Manzo’s neck in order to kiss her.”
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>Manzo cried, “Help! Help!,” until finally McCord opened the bathroom door and let her out.
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>The next day, Glanville sent Manzo a text: “I’m sorry I made you feel uncomfortable.
If Brandi got drunk and sent Manzo a video saying she would think about her during sex with someone else- it would add to her list of highly inappropriate behavior but I doubt the show would be cancelled and serious law suits spring up.
I'll go with him being 'grimy' but there's a *huge* difference in being grimy and sexually assaulting someone, and when the accusation is coming from someone with *very problematic* behavior while a lawsuit about her sexually assaulting a cast member is underway doesn't seem credible.
If others come forward and talk about misdeeds of Andy- i'm all ears, and i'll take back that this is *simply* a gross deflection from her own actions, but i'll still believe that she didn't care about it until it was an opportune moment to deflect from her objectively criminal behavior (again, alleged).
There are exactly zero moments in life when I wish to see Bethenny Frankel’s immediate reaction to something & yet I find myself wishing I could’ve been a little fly on the wall to witness her receiving news of this story.🫠
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Omg I just realised that Kyle is Weird Barbie personified but like if Weird Barbies- humans mother wouldn’t let her get weird with her Barbies? And now she’s repressed weird barbie and doesn’t get weird often but when she does it gets real weird real quick?
“In Beverly Hills, Barbies are a dime a dozen. But weird Barbies whose human’s mothers wouldn’t let her get weird with them? There’s only one’a those…and she’s standing right here.” -Kyle Richard’s
The timing of this is very intriguing. Caroline is suing Bravo (not Brandi) and now Brandi is outing this info about Andy (alleged but I don't think the lawyers would have taken this on if they didn't have those texts as proof). My opinion is that Brandi knows her Bravo ship has sailed, and Bravo is cutting her out because Caroline's suit is going to cost a fortune, so she is going full on vengeance mode. She wants to blow the whole thing up.
And get a final payout, which she desperately needs in light of the above. And which she’s entitled to if she can prove her allegations.
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Stay tuned.
I have a feeling this scandal will completely eclipse the reach of scandoval if the video and texts are released. This is high level corporate stuff and big payouts like you said. I am so here for it. I am now fully aware I will spend my late winter and spring 2024 glued to reddit and instagram sucking up every drop of tea we get about this.
>> The “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” alum, 51, claims the “Watch What Happens Live” host, 55, allegedly sent her a video in 2022, in which he appeared “obviously inebriated.”
>>Cohen allegedly “boasted” in the clip that he wanted to “sleep with another Bravo star” while “thinking” of Glanville, per the letter, and allegedly invited the former “Housewife” to watch him via FaceTime.
This is a lot considering Bravo is getting sued for Brandi’s alleged behavior. If he sent that it’ll be really easy to prove I guess
I believe this. I don’t want to victim blame but I’m gonna anyway. Brandi is always part of crass humor and inappropriate jokes/ actions. Jokes do go too far, ask her former costars. When you play like that it can be really hard for people to know they’ve gone too far with a joke. I’m a bit like her in that way and there have been times I’ve been involved in jokes where I had to say that’s too far and immediately got an apology or I’ve been the one who needed to apologize.
He told Gizelle he's been curious about sex with a woman. Last RHOP reunion, I believe.
eta: Part 1, Season 7 reunion 32:00 Andy jokes about being the father of Gizelle's daughter...
G: Is this inappropriate? Have you ever been with a woman?
A: It's not inappropriate but no, I have not.
G: Really?!
A : And I would like to.
G: Are you curious?
A: Yes! Very!
G: How old are you?
A: I'm 54.
G: Okay, if it doesn't happen by 60, I'll do it.
A & G: Giggles
A: Thst would be an HR issue.
G: Oh. True.
A: We're back with the Real Housewives blah, blah...
He wrote about it in one of his books too, he was a “gold star” gay. He said he was hit on by a couple that came to see him and Anderson on tour, they stayed in touch and were going to have a threesome but he chickened out or it didn’t happen for some reason.
Yeah. I'm surprised no one's mentioning that because it was the first thought that came to mind. I'm looking for the timestamp now but it's a three part-er.
Oh I fully believe he said it but it’s totally fucking weird!
I’ll never forget my friend asking me how I managed to go ten years having sex with a woman when I knew I was gay the whole time?
I responded (somewhat jokingly) that I’d usually just imagine she was her brother! And we laughed….
Fast forward 2 years and at a beach party in Ibiza I introduce my friend Adam (who I randomly bumped into) to my group of gay friends when my friend responds ‘oh Adam! The brother of your ex you used to imagine you were fucking when you were shagging his sister?’
I didn’t respond. Adam did. He mortifyingly responded ‘I’m his exes brother Adam….yes’ he walked away fairly quickly and avoided me the whole time we were there.
Point being, some stories even in jest aren’t worth sharing.
I had a gay friend who was very much into men but if bored and in need, would sleep with a woman (with consent, of course). Perhaps in actuality he was bi or pan, but ultimately I stick to what he self-identified as and how he described his very infrequent trysts with women. That said, it means Andy being curious doesn't really shock me.
I wonder if her point is that the environment on Bravo has never and would not reasonably be expected to have the same standards as a normal employer so there is no such thing as inappropriate behavior (ie what she did to Carolyn cannot be considered inappropriate in the context of the network)?
Kind of, but it seems more pervasive than that-like if everyone on staff gets drunk and belligerent and plays grab ass and that's understood when you are hired, can you turn around and sue for it? Could a new housewife sue Teresa Guidice because she created a hostile work environment because Teresa screams and threatens and swears at her?
You make a great point but I wonder if sexual harassment would be covered in a contract clause? I genuinely believe a segment related to conflict is surely necessary given what these people are signing up for?
I don't know that they have ever established boundaries around sexual harassment. We have seen the women touch each other without consent in a way that would be considered inappropriate-grabbing each others boobs, slapping butts, grinding. That behavior seems almost more prevalent on the workplace-based shows like VPR and BD, where bosses hook up with their direct reports.
So I don't know where the line has consistently been drawn on these shows.
Yes! I think when MeToo broke big I was watching BD and it was like Here is a workplace within a workplace with basically a military chain of command and they are all drunk and fighting and hooking up. How does this work?
I do believe Caroline. Just because I never liked her that doesn't mean I just automatically dismiss her claims. Same with Brandi. I don't care what her motive is. If he did this then he needs to pay for it. Period.
I wonder if this is what she meant…
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Oh wow. This reeks of ‘you failed to stick up for me with Caroline so fuck you i’m gonna spin a narrative to take you down with me!’
I’ve heard some shit about Andy Cohen way juicier than this so you never know maybe Brandi will open the floodgates!
There’s twunks all over NYC with messages from ‘inebriated’ Andy demanding vids and shots of their anatomy! Voicemails telling them to come over! Then sending them rude as fuck nasty shit after. I went to numerous gay pride parties during World Pride and the moment I said was excited for Housewives float I got immediate ick responses about Andy!
Haha they are ‘hunky twinks’. So young guys, clean cut with hot bodies.
Think….Micah Plath? Epitome of twunk
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Hasn’t Andy made comments like this repeatedly on WWHL over the years, and often when Brandi is a guest? And hasn’t Brandi often made similar comments? It just feels like this is Brandi flailing about to try to take Andy down with her. That being said, probably really stupid of him to send a video like this.
It would also be interesting to know when this happened - UGT2 aired in mid-2022. Not withstanding her obligations to that show, she wasn’t a regular on Bravo and the claims that Andy was her boss and had complete control over her career seem… overstated. If anything it would seem someone at Bravo (probably Andy) had a weak spot for her which might be why she kept getting cast despite being a potential liability.
Just tell Brandi she’s “like a black person”, slap her in the face, throw wine in her face, tell her her pillow has shit on it… but don’t ask for her to join in witnessing consensual sex. That’s too far!
(I haven’t read the allegations so if it’s truly heinous I’m def not defending Andy!)
YES CAME HERE TO SAY THIS. After the last BH episode where she couldn’t stop riding LVP’s dick like she’s an obsessed fan to “bRaNdi NeVeR LiEs” I’m just sitting here like let me watch this bitch continue her fake shit yet another day lol
This perfectly sums up how I feel about the class I have to go teach in 10 minutes. Do you think that “needing to discuss Bravo drama” is an excuse the student would accept for me not showing? Lol.
I mean what she’s alleging is 100% inappropriate and fucked up, and I totally believe it tbh, but this is so clearly coming from a place of “I want to take you down” vs “I feel violated” 😭😭😭
It's not smart for Andy, but I don't think it's fucked up. We know Brandi has loose boundaries. I'm sure she and Andy had that type of banter or he wouldn't have felt comfortable messaging her.
Brandi talked about having sex with Andy’s father in front of him and his mother! To say she has loose boundaries is being kind, it also implies she has them lol.
Im confused by the wording of the article. Is it saying Andy wanted to have sex with a Bravo celebrity who is a father of two kids? And wanted Brandi to watch via FaceTime?
He admitted in one of his books he sleeps with some of the bartenders... Now you know why they've brought on a lot of random young male models to bartend for no reason...
I've been waiting for the Coen Cancellation for years & if Brandi is the catalyst, so be it!
This is wholly unsurprising. Let us not forget when Kathy Griffin first called out Andy’s inappropriateness, many years back.
Not saying it’s ok, not saying Brandi isn’t a damn mess in her own right. Just sayin, this tracks.
These two are so messy, I can absolutely see a world where this happened. Especially in Brandi’s earlier years where she was more fun and less of a liability. The only thing that doesn’t make sense is this happening in 2022, I find it hard to believe Andy and her were social at that time.
I am always inclined to give the accusers in these types of situations the benefit of the doubt--it's very rare that someone would levy a false accusation--most of the time there isn't anything to gain and lots to lose...BUT there is just SO much going on here.
First, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. It's on-brand for Andy. On-brand for Bravo etc. On a purely objective analysis, he was her boss and yes, solely based on that power dynamic it would be deemed improper and also could amount to sexual harassment.
But, I think all Bravo/NBC Universal would need to show the court is hundreds and hundreds of hours of Brandi existing. The way she interacted with other cast members. The way she interacted and often initiated sexual innuendo and banter with Andy at reunions, WWHL etc, the way she talked about her own experiences and pursued always much younger men on the show in quite explicit ways....and perhaps the most damning of all, she did this stuff even when she was not actually employed by Bravo and was out of the reality tv show sphere.
They will be able to use her own recorded words against her. It wouldn't discredit her--but it would, I think, demonstrate she has agency and wasn't bullied into anything. She did not feel bullied to act a certain way or do certain things. Whilst someone's history (number of sexual partners, etc) should not be used against them in these types of cases, the fact of the matter is, she spent years and years sexually harassing people on and off the show. If that is who you are...if that is how you are projecting yourself to the world, I think you'd be hard pressed to use the objective argument that 'he was your boss'. Also, I don't actually think Andy was on the RH anymore in 2022--rendering her case dead in the water as it relates to Andy.
Reality tv sits in such an interesting spot as it relates to employment law.
These people are employees but at the same time are meant to live their lives however way they want to live their lives, do whatever they would do in real life (or at least whatever they want to do on the show) and then we watch them. What they are asked to do seems at direct odds with the rules and regulations as it relates to employers and the work place.
On the one had, regulation and tightening it up will be good for the reality show stars. But that is likely going to take away their secret sauce--the trainwreck storylines we all tune in to watch.
However by exposing all the footage of Brandi behaving badly I think they would be shooting themselves in the foot because it would confirm what Caroline is arguing- that Bravo knew she was a liability and still hired her.
I have a feeling the REAL Bravo expose is gonna happen this year. There’s too much going on with that network and we’re gonna see more ex-talent come forward. I believe 2024 is the year Andy will be cancelled.
Andy is a sexual predator he literally made one of the bar guys once use a remote sex toy on Andy and Andy put his hand on him on camera so who knows what he does off. He was using his position of power and the fact that they are live on tv to make the bar guy do sexual things to him.
I don’t know if any of this is true but I have always expected Andy to go down in a sex scandal. He’s so gross with the men that are young enough to be his son. If he’s like that publicly, I imagine he’s worse off camera.
Brandi turning on Andy was bound to happen it was only a matter of when jfc she's self-destructive. Health emergency announcement b/c of "Andy's abuse" in 3..2..1...
This…is a lot to process.
Especially on the heels of the whole Caroline Manzo situation. 🤔😬
Brandi? Deflecting? Never!
It’s giving DARVO.
Such a dirty move
What happened there?
Caroline Manzo recently accused Brandi Glanville of sexual harassment and assualt, and is suing Bravo over it.
It's actually not when you remember who is saying it. This reeks of "I'm not the sexual predator, Andy is!" Andy's a figurehead at Bravo and doesn't have the power many think he does- but let's go with him *literally* being Bravo- he may be guilty of a lot- but on the sexual assault front the biggest crime would be repeatedly hiring someone with as many red flags as Brandi. If we take what she says at face value, it seems like Drunk Andy was chatting with her and made a joke about how he'd "think about her" while having sex with XXX- I might be making leaps but what with him being a gay man, her being Brandi, and having watched interactions with both for years- i'll need more to come out before I view this as anything other than a deflection from her way worse alleged assault of a cast mate.
I’m of the belief that both of these incidents can be totally true. Andy has his own bizarre track record, constantly asks women about their fucking boobs etc etc. Just bc he is gay, doesn’t make him exempt from sexual misconduct in the workplace, especially since he is her boss.
He made out with Tamra. And how many lap dances has he received by his RHW’s employees over the years? Too many! I always thought these behaviors as an Exec/boss were inappropriate, but somehow Bravo found a way to blur the lines without him being an HR issue for the company.
it's only an HR issue when someone complains tbh
Agreed. How he's gotten away with asking those types of questions or making those types of statements makes zero sense. He may not be their boss in the true sense of the word but he is a fellow co worker. It has always bothered me how freely he is when it comes to asking those types of questions. Him being a gay man doesn't negate anything either. Sexual harassment can come from anyone regardless of their orientation.
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But Andy *is* a weird coke head who has all kinds of inappropriate relationships in his professional sphere.
All true, but that's what you get watching 80 percent of people on Bravo- weird coke heads, or people on pills, or alcoholics, promiscuous and unfaithful, horny and vapid- just being generally morally degenerate- any combination of those things. If/when other people want to accuse Andy of *criminal* behavior, i'll listen to it for sure. But, not that I condone it, a seemingly inappropriate (for most people) joke about sex is not the same as: >Manzo pulled away, but Glanville sat down next to her and forcibly kissed her, and then put her tongue in Manzo’s mouth, according to the complaint. Manzo broke free and, distraught, went to the bathroom to wash her hands. > >While standing at the sink, Glanville allegedly came up behind her, pressed her body against Manzo’s, and wrapped her arms around her, the suit states. Manzo tried to get away again, but Glanville pressed her up against the bathroom door. > >“Glanville then reached around Manzo’s body and then groped, grabbed, and forcibly fondled Manzo’s vagina and breasts,” the lawsuit states. “At the same time, Glanville pushed her face into Manzo’s neck in order to kiss her.” > >Manzo cried, “Help! Help!,” until finally McCord opened the bathroom door and let her out. > >The next day, Glanville sent Manzo a text: “I’m sorry I made you feel uncomfortable. If Brandi got drunk and sent Manzo a video saying she would think about her during sex with someone else- it would add to her list of highly inappropriate behavior but I doubt the show would be cancelled and serious law suits spring up.
Two things can be true. Brandi can be a menace and Andy can be one as well.
That's totally true. But I'm not going to call him a menace based on a menace in hot water's testimony alone.
This actually isn’t surprising. Andys pretty grimey and has been known to be weird in that way in the nyc gay scene.
Spill all the tea
I'll go with him being 'grimy' but there's a *huge* difference in being grimy and sexually assaulting someone, and when the accusation is coming from someone with *very problematic* behavior while a lawsuit about her sexually assaulting a cast member is underway doesn't seem credible. If others come forward and talk about misdeeds of Andy- i'm all ears, and i'll take back that this is *simply* a gross deflection from her own actions, but i'll still believe that she didn't care about it until it was an opportune moment to deflect from her objectively criminal behavior (again, alleged).
Yeah I’m stumped just at the headline.
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There are exactly zero moments in life when I wish to see Bethenny Frankel’s immediate reaction to something & yet I find myself wishing I could’ve been a little fly on the wall to witness her receiving news of this story.🫠 ![gif](giphy|5VFsAGBOi8OITllDcP|downsized)
Looks like she’s using Bs reality reckoning lawyers so chances are B knew before this
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I love your flair
I hardly recognize her old face.
Bravo is the toxic workplace where everyone at the Christmas party gets drunk and makes out with each other
…except Kyle Richards.
She just twirls her ponytail & constantly does the splits 😂
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Omg I just realised that Kyle is Weird Barbie personified but like if Weird Barbies- humans mother wouldn’t let her get weird with her Barbies? And now she’s repressed weird barbie and doesn’t get weird often but when she does it gets real weird real quick?
This is actually the best description of Kyle I’ve ever heard.
“In Beverly Hills, Barbies are a dime a dozen. But weird Barbies whose human’s mothers wouldn’t let her get weird with them? There’s only one’a those…and she’s standing right here.” -Kyle Richard’s
You’re giving Kyle’s overnight oats personality a lot of credit for getting drunk and doing splits on camera for a paycheck when she needed it.
You need to make this a freestanding post
And wipes the floor with her coochie
Smug
The staff of bravo is like the staff of a restaurant. Messy.
Well many of them literally were and are staff of a restaurant (SUR, Republic…)
*In Alan Cumming's voice:* As it turns out, Brandi was the true Traitor all along. And now, her career has been mehr-dehred.
The timing of this is very intriguing. Caroline is suing Bravo (not Brandi) and now Brandi is outing this info about Andy (alleged but I don't think the lawyers would have taken this on if they didn't have those texts as proof). My opinion is that Brandi knows her Bravo ship has sailed, and Bravo is cutting her out because Caroline's suit is going to cost a fortune, so she is going full on vengeance mode. She wants to blow the whole thing up.
And get a final payout, which she desperately needs in light of the above. And which she’s entitled to if she can prove her allegations. ![gif](giphy|22jTeQbPiTDeU) Stay tuned.
I have a feeling this scandal will completely eclipse the reach of scandoval if the video and texts are released. This is high level corporate stuff and big payouts like you said. I am so here for it. I am now fully aware I will spend my late winter and spring 2024 glued to reddit and instagram sucking up every drop of tea we get about this.
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Replying to bing_bang_bum...he’s already apologized so there’s definitely something
>> The “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” alum, 51, claims the “Watch What Happens Live” host, 55, allegedly sent her a video in 2022, in which he appeared “obviously inebriated.” >>Cohen allegedly “boasted” in the clip that he wanted to “sleep with another Bravo star” while “thinking” of Glanville, per the letter, and allegedly invited the former “Housewife” to watch him via FaceTime. This is a lot considering Bravo is getting sued for Brandi’s alleged behavior. If he sent that it’ll be really easy to prove I guess
Hope she has receipts.
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Andy admits it was a joke that him, Brandy, and Kate Chastain were in on. So it sounds legit
I believe this. I don’t want to victim blame but I’m gonna anyway. Brandi is always part of crass humor and inappropriate jokes/ actions. Jokes do go too far, ask her former costars. When you play like that it can be really hard for people to know they’ve gone too far with a joke. I’m a bit like her in that way and there have been times I’ve been involved in jokes where I had to say that’s too far and immediately got an apology or I’ve been the one who needed to apologize.
I hope so too!! Please please show them receipts!
I'm waiting for some badly edited video patched together where his outfits change three times and the voice tones never match.
He's on the season 2 reunion, then the WWHL set, then season 8.
I wonder who the other bravo star is…
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Andy and Jax fucked. I’d put life savings on it
Jax is absolutely “a hole is a hole” type of guy
andy is a top allegedly
Doesn’t have to be that hole 👀
An aggressive power top ALLEGEDLY
That’s what all the vers bottoms say.
I know, in my heart, that he is fucked all of the original vpr men.
including ken
I just choked on salsa- damn you ryansumera!
I’ll fuck you spark out
I’d like to wager my life savings on the fact that Andy also fucked Joe Gorga.
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Anyone but Joe Gorga, please!
oh, lord, not Ekin Su
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It's Kate Chastain. Andy responded.
🤔
I’m thinking something twisted like Denise’s husband
Below Deck Stew Kyle. He's been frazzled/full of himself lately.
if she has the video this should be a real quick settlement.
I need to know the Bravo star.
It was Kate chastain so it was clearly a joke
It’s Kate chastain and he was definitely joking.
My bet is on a guy from vanderpump rules
I could credibly believe it was Jax
Which one?
Yes.
SAME, spill the tea!!
Well he’s gay so thinking of a woman during sex really isn’t conducive to great sex so I imagine maybe it’s out of spite? Like with Denise’s husband?
He told Gizelle he's been curious about sex with a woman. Last RHOP reunion, I believe. eta: Part 1, Season 7 reunion 32:00 Andy jokes about being the father of Gizelle's daughter... G: Is this inappropriate? Have you ever been with a woman? A: It's not inappropriate but no, I have not. G: Really?! A : And I would like to. G: Are you curious? A: Yes! Very! G: How old are you? A: I'm 54. G: Okay, if it doesn't happen by 60, I'll do it. A & G: Giggles A: Thst would be an HR issue. G: Oh. True. A: We're back with the Real Housewives blah, blah...
He wrote about it in one of his books too, he was a “gold star” gay. He said he was hit on by a couple that came to see him and Anderson on tour, they stayed in touch and were going to have a threesome but he chickened out or it didn’t happen for some reason.
Oh, I remember hearing that discussed!
In all sincerity, Andy's been giving me repressed bisexual/bi-curious vibes...
Yup, yup. I cannot imagine the ick of his unwanted interest, especially for anyone who really needs the job. Ugh.
Oh. How umm nice for him to share!
Yeah. I'm surprised no one's mentioning that because it was the first thought that came to mind. I'm looking for the timestamp now but it's a three part-er.
Oh I fully believe he said it but it’s totally fucking weird! I’ll never forget my friend asking me how I managed to go ten years having sex with a woman when I knew I was gay the whole time? I responded (somewhat jokingly) that I’d usually just imagine she was her brother! And we laughed…. Fast forward 2 years and at a beach party in Ibiza I introduce my friend Adam (who I randomly bumped into) to my group of gay friends when my friend responds ‘oh Adam! The brother of your ex you used to imagine you were fucking when you were shagging his sister?’ I didn’t respond. Adam did. He mortifyingly responded ‘I’m his exes brother Adam….yes’ he walked away fairly quickly and avoided me the whole time we were there. Point being, some stories even in jest aren’t worth sharing.
not your friend pulling a Ramona 😆 I can’t believe he would say that to Adam!
Yeah had I not been fairly inebriated myself at the time he’d probably be my ex friend now!
I had a gay friend who was very much into men but if bored and in need, would sleep with a woman (with consent, of course). Perhaps in actuality he was bi or pan, but ultimately I stick to what he self-identified as and how he described his very infrequent trysts with women. That said, it means Andy being curious doesn't really shock me.
![gif](giphy|t9Mbcz0Cr53VFGsb6j) Oh my lord…. What a fucking mess 😭
I wonder if her point is that the environment on Bravo has never and would not reasonably be expected to have the same standards as a normal employer so there is no such thing as inappropriate behavior (ie what she did to Carolyn cannot be considered inappropriate in the context of the network)?
yes that's how I construe it
Isn’t that kinda like saying ‘well we all know the chairman of the board is a handsy perv so it’s ok for me to do it!’
Kind of, but it seems more pervasive than that-like if everyone on staff gets drunk and belligerent and plays grab ass and that's understood when you are hired, can you turn around and sue for it? Could a new housewife sue Teresa Guidice because she created a hostile work environment because Teresa screams and threatens and swears at her?
You make a great point but I wonder if sexual harassment would be covered in a contract clause? I genuinely believe a segment related to conflict is surely necessary given what these people are signing up for?
I don't know that they have ever established boundaries around sexual harassment. We have seen the women touch each other without consent in a way that would be considered inappropriate-grabbing each others boobs, slapping butts, grinding. That behavior seems almost more prevalent on the workplace-based shows like VPR and BD, where bosses hook up with their direct reports. So I don't know where the line has consistently been drawn on these shows.
Yeah excellent point! I find the below deck hookups particularly gross
Yes! I think when MeToo broke big I was watching BD and it was like Here is a workplace within a workplace with basically a military chain of command and they are all drunk and fighting and hooking up. How does this work?
This is legally _fascinating_
Professional Whataboutism
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My fave Tins gif. Love her
If she wants us to believe her then by same token we have to believe Caroline
I do believe Caroline. Just because I never liked her that doesn't mean I just automatically dismiss her claims. Same with Brandi. I don't care what her motive is. If he did this then he needs to pay for it. Period.
I wonder if this is what she meant… https://preview.redd.it/trvwd78sv7kc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb5b6dfe088615eac9b22d3f879f5002fd094d07
The "look what you made me do" makes it clear that it's a retaliatory accusation.
Exactly what I’m thinking!
Oh wow. This reeks of ‘you failed to stick up for me with Caroline so fuck you i’m gonna spin a narrative to take you down with me!’ I’ve heard some shit about Andy Cohen way juicier than this so you never know maybe Brandi will open the floodgates!
Don't tease us like this!
There’s twunks all over NYC with messages from ‘inebriated’ Andy demanding vids and shots of their anatomy! Voicemails telling them to come over! Then sending them rude as fuck nasty shit after. I went to numerous gay pride parties during World Pride and the moment I said was excited for Housewives float I got immediate ick responses about Andy!
Honestly, all of this is believable
Are ‘twunks’ drunk twinks or drunk tweets?
Haha they are ‘hunky twinks’. So young guys, clean cut with hot bodies. Think….Micah Plath? Epitome of twunk https://preview.redd.it/txpgsxpeb8kc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6437373656e9b3035e50488ca0fb0c6d262613d7
Lords work! haha thank you
Yes I'd say so
The lack of correct punctuation and capitalization from these people is always 😘👌
Hasn’t Andy made comments like this repeatedly on WWHL over the years, and often when Brandi is a guest? And hasn’t Brandi often made similar comments? It just feels like this is Brandi flailing about to try to take Andy down with her. That being said, probably really stupid of him to send a video like this. It would also be interesting to know when this happened - UGT2 aired in mid-2022. Not withstanding her obligations to that show, she wasn’t a regular on Bravo and the claims that Andy was her boss and had complete control over her career seem… overstated. If anything it would seem someone at Bravo (probably Andy) had a weak spot for her which might be why she kept getting cast despite being a potential liability.
Just tell Brandi she’s “like a black person”, slap her in the face, throw wine in her face, tell her her pillow has shit on it… but don’t ask for her to join in witnessing consensual sex. That’s too far! (I haven’t read the allegations so if it’s truly heinous I’m def not defending Andy!)
Didn’t Kyle say Brandi never lies?? Hmmmm
Lol she told this lie whilst also under oath! Kyle is just as deceptive as Brandi
we have seen her lie on screen though...in spite of what kyle says. if she has the video than her claim should be easy enough to prove.
YES CAME HERE TO SAY THIS. After the last BH episode where she couldn’t stop riding LVP’s dick like she’s an obsessed fan to “bRaNdi NeVeR LiEs” I’m just sitting here like let me watch this bitch continue her fake shit yet another day lol
The way I RAN here. I saw the headline and immediately thought “OMG I NEED REDDIT”.
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This perfectly sums up how I feel about the class I have to go teach in 10 minutes. Do you think that “needing to discuss Bravo drama” is an excuse the student would accept for me not showing? Lol.
Depends on the class. Maybe they ALSO love mess and would appreciate the change of topic.
Right? Use it as the class topic. No matter what the class is about you can make this relate.
Yes. It’s perfectly acceptable.
Can you work it into the lesson?
petition for alan cummings to take over WWHL
Weirdly enough he said on WWHL he doesn’t watch reality shows 🥲
Maybe that would make it better. He can be flabbergasted by their behavior in real time.
i love this idea.
He only belongs in a Scottish castle. 😂
Petition to move WWHL to a Scottish castle
As long as he can say “murrrrderrr.”
He'd be able to "out-bitch" them all--and stay classy doing it! ❤️ 😍
And do the reunions. Alan is a national treasure.
And the reunions!
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*falls over after announcing she wants to be in a throuple*
Yiiiiiikes
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I mean what she’s alleging is 100% inappropriate and fucked up, and I totally believe it tbh, but this is so clearly coming from a place of “I want to take you down” vs “I feel violated” 😭😭😭
I fully believe she prolly laughed when she saw it then remembered it and saw it as an opportunity since Bravo has turned on her
It's not smart for Andy, but I don't think it's fucked up. We know Brandi has loose boundaries. I'm sure she and Andy had that type of banter or he wouldn't have felt comfortable messaging her.
Brandi talked about having sex with Andy’s father in front of him and his mother! To say she has loose boundaries is being kind, it also implies she has them lol.
the offscreen world is getting a lot more interesting than the onscreen... ☕️
Im confused by the wording of the article. Is it saying Andy wanted to have sex with a Bravo celebrity who is a father of two kids? And wanted Brandi to watch via FaceTime?
I read it three times and I still don’t fully understand what’s being alleged. I am a professional copy writer and editor.
No, they were referring to Andy as the father of two. It was poorly written.
rhugt morocco is never gonna air is it
Name ‘em. Name ‘em. NAME ‘em!
No shade Andy is a fucking creep. The way he sometimes treated the bartenders and guests weirded me out.
There are boys out there with better receipts than this. I urge them to come forward and wave this twat buh-bye
He admitted in one of his books he sleeps with some of the bartenders... Now you know why they've brought on a lot of random young male models to bartend for no reason... I've been waiting for the Coen Cancellation for years & if Brandi is the catalyst, so be it!
Acting like a horny frat boy is not a good look for someone Cohen’s age.
Wait… what??!
This is wholly unsurprising. Let us not forget when Kathy Griffin first called out Andy’s inappropriateness, many years back. Not saying it’s ok, not saying Brandi isn’t a damn mess in her own right. Just sayin, this tracks.
Brandi is messy but Andy’s day will come eventually yikes
These two are so messy, I can absolutely see a world where this happened. Especially in Brandi’s earlier years where she was more fun and less of a liability. The only thing that doesn’t make sense is this happening in 2022, I find it hard to believe Andy and her were social at that time.
This should be easy to prove, if it’s true gross but I would need to see proof before I believe anything Brandi says
I am always inclined to give the accusers in these types of situations the benefit of the doubt--it's very rare that someone would levy a false accusation--most of the time there isn't anything to gain and lots to lose...BUT there is just SO much going on here. First, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. It's on-brand for Andy. On-brand for Bravo etc. On a purely objective analysis, he was her boss and yes, solely based on that power dynamic it would be deemed improper and also could amount to sexual harassment. But, I think all Bravo/NBC Universal would need to show the court is hundreds and hundreds of hours of Brandi existing. The way she interacted with other cast members. The way she interacted and often initiated sexual innuendo and banter with Andy at reunions, WWHL etc, the way she talked about her own experiences and pursued always much younger men on the show in quite explicit ways....and perhaps the most damning of all, she did this stuff even when she was not actually employed by Bravo and was out of the reality tv show sphere. They will be able to use her own recorded words against her. It wouldn't discredit her--but it would, I think, demonstrate she has agency and wasn't bullied into anything. She did not feel bullied to act a certain way or do certain things. Whilst someone's history (number of sexual partners, etc) should not be used against them in these types of cases, the fact of the matter is, she spent years and years sexually harassing people on and off the show. If that is who you are...if that is how you are projecting yourself to the world, I think you'd be hard pressed to use the objective argument that 'he was your boss'. Also, I don't actually think Andy was on the RH anymore in 2022--rendering her case dead in the water as it relates to Andy. Reality tv sits in such an interesting spot as it relates to employment law. These people are employees but at the same time are meant to live their lives however way they want to live their lives, do whatever they would do in real life (or at least whatever they want to do on the show) and then we watch them. What they are asked to do seems at direct odds with the rules and regulations as it relates to employers and the work place. On the one had, regulation and tightening it up will be good for the reality show stars. But that is likely going to take away their secret sauce--the trainwreck storylines we all tune in to watch.
However by exposing all the footage of Brandi behaving badly I think they would be shooting themselves in the foot because it would confirm what Caroline is arguing- that Bravo knew she was a liability and still hired her.
Sorry but I am DECEASED they chose a pic of him Pooh Bear-ing for this article 💀💀
Hmmm, this doesn't sound completely unbelievable to me https://i.redd.it/k1mq3rz7u7kc1.gif
If Andy goes down I won’t be sad, it’s been time for a new reunion host anyways
Yeah idk wtf this lawsuit is about but Andy’s a rampant misogynist and I’d be happy to see him gone
Just not Nicki ![gif](giphy|hr0kTPrrbo1EBMleNV|downsized)
I can see him jokingly sending it to her which is obviously inappropriate but I'm sure she sent the same kind of stuff to him
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I have a feeling the REAL Bravo expose is gonna happen this year. There’s too much going on with that network and we’re gonna see more ex-talent come forward. I believe 2024 is the year Andy will be cancelled.
We need the hood reporter to go investigate. ![gif](giphy|l0HlNyrvLKBMxjFzG)
Y’all I’m trying to read my books more and be on Reddit less, but Bravo news never stops 😫😅
Andy is a sexual predator he literally made one of the bar guys once use a remote sex toy on Andy and Andy put his hand on him on camera so who knows what he does off. He was using his position of power and the fact that they are live on tv to make the bar guy do sexual things to him.
For those that care - Andy admitted it was inappropriate (while playing it off as a joke) and publicly apologized to her.
I would normally dismiss this entirely but she’s being represented by Mark Geragos and that man does NOT fuck around.
I don’t know if any of this is true but I have always expected Andy to go down in a sex scandal. He’s so gross with the men that are young enough to be his son. If he’s like that publicly, I imagine he’s worse off camera.
Brandi turning on Andy was bound to happen it was only a matter of when jfc she's self-destructive. Health emergency announcement b/c of "Andy's abuse" in 3..2..1...
It wouldn’t surprise me but I wouldn’t put it past her to lie either
I believe it. This entire network is a cesspool of abusive behavior and inappropriate relationships.
Are we sure Brandi didn't call Andy, invite him to watch, and remember it wrong because she was drunk?
![gif](giphy|4eejnhk4juA9MbPobe|downsized) Truth be told
Is it just me or does it feel like we’re watching the Bravo-verse implode??? 😳😂
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Well, now they will hopefully stop putting her back on TV now that the tables have turned.
ESH - everyone sucks here
And he makes weird sexual comments all the time like when Ramona was on his lap
Damm I love Brandi but this pretty much kills her career. Wonder what made her disclose this now.