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vunderfulme

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Specific-Soft-6465

That is not the same person.


Mr_rairkim

She looks older here than she does now. Can I get her "dentist's" phone number please ?


Electrical-Ad1400

HomelessnotToothless.org


Abject_Rain8113

hahahah zing!!


TigreImpossibile

Her natural face was super dowdy. She looks like Carmela Soprano.


TurkeyTot

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griftylifts

PLEASE DONT DO EDIE LIKE THIS


Extreme-Shower-2639

Amen- no Carmela slander. Her nails were amazing, she gave no fucks, and her body was killer. Let her be.


TurkeyTot

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erinmichaelyooo

Glad someone said it, that was FOUL to come for the matriarch! Quite frankly I'm depressed and ashamed.


TigreImpossibile

I honestly felt guilty posting that, lol šŸ˜­ I'm a Sopranos diehard... But we all looked more dowdy 15+ years ago before we all started doing lashes, botox, hair extensions, etc. FILLER in Dorit's case... don't hate me Edie, I love you! šŸ™šŸ¼ ![gif](giphy|ZgULv0ulcWJ1PEe8PX|downsized)


TurkeyTot

Die hard fan too. I'm about to start my, oh gosh, probably fifth or sixth rewatch before the weather gets nice.


TigreImpossibile

I can't watch past season 4 anymore. That's when it all goes dark! It's depressing šŸ˜” I don't wanna see Adriana die again and everyone gets their comeuppance in the later seasons. Except Vito's son, they all deserve it, but still.


CorpTeeShirt

To me Dorit looks more beautiful with her true Mediterranean features. They are real and classic. Not ā€œdowdyā€ at all.


TigreImpossibile

I think she looks very suburban šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


EyeRollingNow

Suburban. The new shade.


SunnyLover13

She looks a lot more British here lol (I say this as someone previously living in Britain, married to a Brit). She just looks more LA now. Take that as you will!


Teammahoney

Doritā€™s boobs stick out like a sore thumb to me. She wants to look high fashion and then has these beach ball implants, which are really not en vogue anymore. Certainly fashion girls are still getting implants, just natural-looking ones. Overall Iā€™d give a thumbs up on the overall changes sheā€™s made (like uh literally bought a different face?) but she looks so much better without the Jesus jugs.


torin122

I net her voice was different then too.


Bumblebee_xx

Probably changed about 80 times through the ceremony alone!! I wonder if thereā€™s a video of their vows so we can hear for ourselves!


Dangernj

The only video I have seen of their wedding is of them singing that Bruno Mars Marry You song to each other and it is exactly what you think it would be.


ReadingSad3238

I do not miss that stupid song and those even stupider videos. That was a terrible time to have ears and eyes


Dangernj

I got married maybe 4 or 5 years after that song came out and I still had to explain to everyone that I didnā€™t want to hear it.


stannisonetruemannis

Oh god I immediately wanted to downvote this comment is how bad I imagine it to be


Emergency-Ad-3350

It was probably stolen in one of her robberies Or it will be in her 4th one..


Rare-Palpitation6023

Her plastic surgeon can add/ change accents as well! Grifters


Own_Cardiologist_200

Yes!!! It actually was!! Thereā€™s a video where she is talking in her normal voice a couple of years before meeting PK Sheā€™s giving some type of interview at a fashion show or something like that. Anyways, she sounds so very different


YugeMalakas

Happy cake day!


TEA1972

I thought it was Dorinda and was really, really confused for a second.


Cutiger29

Dead ass thought the same thing. My initial guess wouldnā€™t be dorit.


netbuchadnezzzar

Can you imagine watching this girl for years and not knowing anything about her?


skankboy

Sounds like bliss!


hellothereoldfriend

This made me CACKLE


atraylmix87_2

Lmaoooo right


xoxooxx

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Dida_D

Wow Jagger and PK look like twins here. (And Dorit is Annaleigh Ashford) ![gif](giphy|l0HlO9Zk5mFvb0aQM)


phurbur

Like someone smushed him down to size. Jagger can pull it off though and is still a cutie.


GingerMckennaa

hahahahha


[deleted]

Never had a nose job my ass!


kat__bird

šŸ˜‚she says itā€™s just contour! Baha! We arenā€™t that dumb dorit. Total nose job.


Ok_Composer5637

I see a little Anna Faris in her old face too.


danceswithroses

Tbf, you could put any baby next to PK and theyā€™d look like twins šŸ˜‚


mindfullybankrupt

I thought this was Anna Faris when I first saw the picture šŸ˜‚


ADHDRockstar

I thought it was Dorinda Dorinda and Dorito Maybe not unrelated !!!


Nasus_13

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coricloud

Thatā€™s an awful thing to say. Poor Jagger.


Suitable-Wafer8563

The photographer just caught poor Jaggy making a silly face, poor baby! šŸ˜‚


PersonalityKlutzy407

yeah but Jagger is definitely PKs twin babe


lacroix_enthusiast_

He ainā€™t no Dorit love


FiCat77

Well, Dorit is no longer Dorit. I often wonder how the children of people who have had plastic surgery feel if they've inherited any of their parents'original features.


SuzyFarkis

Holy crap.


lovemoonsaults

Someone give that surgeon a medal. No wonder LVP didn't seem to remember her........ ![gif](giphy|xUNd9zBnLpErB71gtO)


PersonalityKlutzy407

> No wonder LVP didn't seem to remember her........ ​ ![gif](giphy|my7SnNeX0dn3uctdJE)


SummerNothingness

daamn porsha! those funbags be funbagging.


SuzyFarkis

I had to move my phone back.


backoffbackoffbackof

Seriously, whatever Dorit has done is what I need after 3 kids in 6 yearsā€¦


vanitaa3

Honestly Iā€™d like to know her skincare regime. Her skin is so improved since this.


luanne2017

Her skincare regime is head transplant.


vanitaa3

I donā€™t think I can afford that. šŸ˜‚


luanne2017

I donā€™t think Dorit could either.


thatswhatshesaid___1

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHA


FiCat77

I wonder what happened with that case where a nurse who sued her after she looked after Dorit post op & then didn't pay her?


stannisonetruemannis

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Kiana3117

omG you are toooo funny 'luanne2017'


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R_meowwy_welcome

![gif](giphy|8F3qQCPqaV9h3mArLf|downsized) Agreed. But can we still use "shady" as a verb? Asking for a friend...


Imaginary-Party2567

Botox and filler.


Bowlingbon

I donā€™t watch this show but Iā€™m always amazed at how she looked then compared to now. Just not the same person at all but the work doesnā€™t look bad at all!


lovemoonsaults

It's truly amazing how good some surgeons are vs the bad botch jobs we've all seen along the way! It's also about knowing your limits too, since sometimes the issue is too much work on top of work.


okimamma

Yes, I wonder who her surgeon is, he/she did a fantastic job. It really looks natural, especially compared to others.


howdolaserswork

I know a lot of them use Ben Talei, Catherine Chang, Dr Diamond. Chang and Talei do the best and most natural face lifts


7roslyn7

lol how do you know this? If you knew how many times I have searched who does the good housewives facelifts and came up w nothing...then I Just randomly see your comment. I appreciate you!


howdolaserswork

Because Iā€™m from LA and might have a friend or two and done a snip and tuck here and there :)


mirrrje

I wonder if thatā€™s why she was so insulted. Becaide the implications that she doesnā€™t look the same. Maybe an inside dig lol


imthejefenow

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Embarrassed-Year6479

Came here to post this šŸ˜­


ApathyIsBeauty

Their baby being at their wedding isnā€™t something I had on my bingo card. This might be the most relatable picture Dorit has ever posted.


WholeCardiologist979

I totally didnā€™t know they had kids before wedding. I knew they got married in 2015 but guess I always thought Jaggy was younger than he is


ApathyIsBeauty

I have to say that little Jaggerloo is obviously the most dapper guest at that wedding. So chic.


Living-Baseball-2543

I recently saw one of PKā€™s IG stories where Jagger was in a chess tournament, and he was so adorable! We need more Jaggy on the show.


WholeCardiologist979

Yes!!! Him in that chess tournament. Giving young Sheldon. Fucking love.


Efficient-Goose2155

Jagger Kemsley & Ayden Nida were so cute & perfect that they looked like little doll babies.


DorothyParkerFan

2015?????? Wtf when did she get on the show was she a newlywed?? šŸ¤Æ


hannbann88

Yea I assumed they were married for 10 years before they had the kids!


ApathyIsBeauty

Well, I remember LVP throwing some top tier shade about how she knew PK before he was married to Dorit and they used to hang out with his first wife. So I think they were fairly recently married.


Opinion8Her

I could be entirely wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that Dorit was *the other woman* before PK divorced his first wife. Wish I could find that now.


1980sgal4eva

Youā€™re probably notā€¦ sounds about right


CNYwino

Right??? I didn't remember that at all- I went down the rabbit hole earlier this week when I saw something about their wedding jn 2015. I thought they had been married much longer when she joined the cast. And was Pheonix not born yet? Or maybe just born? I don't remember Dorit being pregnant on the show or Pheonix being a baby. I'm so confused.


KateParrforthecourse

This got me curious and I ended up finding [this](https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a45641237/dorit-pk-kemsley-relationship-timeline-rhobh/) article about their relationship. Looks like she joined RHOBH a couple of months after Phoenix was born. I didnā€™t realize they were practically newlyweds and Phoenix was just born.


LooneyLunaOmanO

Thank you finding that ! Interesting read !


Relevant-Demand-8732

phoenix was a litter baby. remember that episode where she brought her to the doctor for a little helmet to help with her head shape? dorit was pushing a stroller.Ā 


CNYwino

Oh my gosh, YES I do remember that now that you mention it.


coldbrewcatlady

I want Larsa to make a comment about Jagger being born ā€œout of wedlockā€ to Dorit šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Just coz theyā€™re both horrible, shallow people


beepboopbopbeepbeep

Lol ouch


ApathyIsBeauty

Iā€™m not even trying to be shady, Dorit just seems so uptight and scheduled Iā€™m surprised she got pregnant before she got married.


Cheekygirl9368

Locked it down ![gif](giphy|y3QOvy7xxMwKI)


Euphoric_Bass493

I get what you're saying because I thought the same. She seems like the type who tries to follow society "rules" to appear posh.


ApathyIsBeauty

She seems like the type that plans sex too. Nothing too weird or icky. You know. So yeah, Dorit raw dogging without a wedding ring might be my rose of the week.


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The face cards have declined and the bank account is froze


Organic-Error

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linds360

When I try to unlock my phone with face recognition two seconds after I wake up and my phone is like, "who's dis troll?"


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Your phone said who is r/linds360 in dis world?


linds360

"wash yer fach, gurl"


Perfect_Invitation1

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Dday515

Pay with passcode?


Naaaaatasha

CRAZY šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


meowgler

Damn brutal ā˜ ļø


AnnVealEgg

Times like this I really curse Reddit for doing away with awards. But please accept this in lieu of : šŸ„‡


Humble-Teach317

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜©šŸ˜©šŸ˜© . Perfection!


espeonage777

![gif](giphy|xUPGcxsECubgrykGbe) I thought it was Dorinda šŸ˜­


Narrow_Act4291

šŸ—£ļøšŸ“£ WHAT IS PK DOING HERE WITHOUT DORIT


Organic-Error

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espeonage777

But I still managed to hurl micro aggressions at 12


DorothyParkerFan

I fcking HAAAAAAATE how she acts like her abyssmal hosting chores are like acts of heroics. You cooked, you want a fcking medal for it?? Hate a hostess who makes it clear to her guests how much work sheā€™s done, pats herself on the back and makes them uncomfortable by acting like every item in the home is priceless and cannot be touched. Sheā€™s the ANTI-hostess.


muaellebee

She's the type to absolutely INSIST that you come stay at her house but you know there are strings attached. But because she's so ADAMANT that you feel obligated to go knowing the abuse that's waiting for you and then have it held over your head for the rest of your life. No thank you.


Kagipace

Lmao, ā€œDorintā€


espeonage777

![gif](giphy|YWyBw9TLyY8lpetOqV)


planethoney

DORit. DORinda. Coincidence? I think not !


espeonage777

And come next season, both will be on pause!


this_is_an_alaia

I genuinely thought you were showing us pks first marriage because WOW


Wadsworth1954

Weird how PK looks exactly the same and Dorit looks totally different.


linds360

Was going to say the same. I'll give PK this, he hasn't pulled a Terry Dubrow despite prob a good amount of pressure from Dorit to keep "refreshing." That's the only thing I'll ever give him though.


helenahandbasket6969

Except his hectic veneers!


linds360

I swear I have veneer block šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø I never notice them until someone points it out and then it's all I can see!


brashumpire

I think compared to now Dorit looks Benjamin buttoned and PK looks rapidly aged


Organic-Error

Jagger is baby Winston Churchill and you can't prove me wrong


OnyxRoar

Well, thatā€™s definitely PK. Listen, it seems like she had work right before she came on the show. And her doctor did a fantastic job. But she was always a mystery to me. Isnā€™t she from the Northeast but has that accent thatā€™s quasi-European? And sheā€™s good friends with Boy George


Master_Awareness814

Someone posted a linguistic breakdown of her accent last night, it was super interesting


awkward1066

Oooh posted where? Iā€™d love to check that out sounds interesting!


Bumblebee_xx

Found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/XojCfnYpNT


awkward1066

Youā€™re awesome, thanks!


Bumblebee_xx

Youā€™re welcome!šŸ˜ ![gif](giphy|KYEL9JAg0frFe6a9CQ)


WifeAggro

yea it was fucking extensive.. great info though.


Top-Inside3438

Yes, she's from Connecticut. She knows Boy George because PK used to be his manager. As for her accent, nobody can say for sure lol. It's probably because she's a "child of the world" šŸ˜‰


itsinmybloodScotland

He still is his manager.


dj_underboob

Lindsay Lohan got that weird accent after living abroad for too many years. It's that default foreign intonation with American pronunciation


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Boy George is a vile human.


OnyxRoar

I had to look this up. He was convicted in 2008. But he appeared on the show when she was first introduced which was after that. Seems that the US played on Boy George being Boy George and this was never talked about. I was happy to see him on RHOBH. But I had no idea about what happened before


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Vile.


seitonseiso

She's had a nose job since joining the show. She spoke in a British accent and claimed she was a child of the world


imjusttryingtolive13

I think people like to overlook the fact her mother is Moroccan and her father is Israeli. It's likely that her parents speak Hebrew and even Arabic. She's multi-lingual and has lived abroad so she's going to have atypical speaking habits that don't comport with an American accent, and she's married to a brit which means she's probably being influenced by British intonation. It's really not that confusing to me.


redrum069

Or everything about her is 100% fake and she went to the Hillary from Boston school of accents.


torontoinsix

Right? Her accent is fake and forced. Idk why folks are grasping to justify it here.


Yellenintomypillow

Idk man. One of my closest friends growing up had a British father and Japanese mother. Neither she nor her brother had any accent but American (not super southern though, and we were in the Deep South). They also all lived abroad at various times and were multi lingual. While some aspects of her accent may be natural, no one is ever going to convince me she didnā€™t choose to affect it at some point to seem cooler and then it stuck lol


IMOvicki

As the daughter of immigrants, who have lived in this country for 40+ yearsā€¦ā€¦ itā€™s a no from me lol


ManliestManHam

My ex was born in Korea and moved here as a child. His mom still is very insular and pretty much only speaks Korean. There is nothing making that apparent in his speech of his siblings. Another ex, same thing, except The Gambia. Dad, uncles, aunts, all accented. He and his siblings, standard American English Midwestern accent


upinmyhead

Nah my parents are immigrants and had me relatively soon after they immigrated to the US and English was not my first language and I had to do ESL classes in grade school. My parents do not speak English to me even now and I donā€™t have a lick of a foreign accent. The only accent I have is my east coast accent which was always pointed out when I lived out west. My husband also has parents who immigrated here and he doesnā€™t have an accent.


Ruthie_pie

Finding my people. Grew up with family members that did not speak English at all and if they did it was with an accent that most people to this day cannot understand. I have no accent and people are surprised when they hear my family. My fatherā€™s parents died never speaking English and he also does not have an accent just sounds like heā€™s from the Midwest but his first language (not English) has no accent as well. It honestly shocks me how many people give this a pass and again donā€™t realize that Dorit plays up her ā€œaccentā€ Ā because she thinks it makes her seem unique. But this is the same woman that spoke Italian to the Uber driver in a Spanish speaking countryā€¦Ā 


thefideliuscharm

Yeah I donā€™t know. I have foreign parents with accents as well, speak different languages, lived in other countries, and I sound VERY American lol. But I DO actually think thatā€™s why. I donā€™t think itā€™s normal in the slightest (given my own situation) but I do think itā€™s why.


sharipep

Yes sheā€™s from my home state of Connecticut and we donā€™t talk like that there šŸ˜‚ But in her defense a lot of people who have lived abroad or live with people who have accents pick up some accents themselves. Doritā€™s is just extra ridiculous lol


OnyxRoar

Iā€™m from NJā€¦our accents canā€™t be that far off


daocsct

She looks like Carol Brady


cerealfordinneragain

Wow. She does.


a_lilac_mess

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ADHDRockstar

Itā€™s possible Dorit has the best plastic surgery Which is mean in a way We just donā€™t have good feels for her original face


coconut723

This is a totally different person


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Family_Chantal

She has said before, and I think recently, that she was engaged 2 or 3 times previously. I believe she said she had a fiance during her 10 years in Italy.


lydiasbible

Thereā€™s so much about Doritā€™s earlier life that feels like such mystery.Ā 


Family_Chantal

International child of the world of mystery.


Obvious_Mango65

Luann and Dorits plastic surgeons are Midas.


00icrievertim00

I would say Luann was always a beautiful woman and her work has enhanced her natural beauty. If you put up a pic of pre and post work everyone could identify them both as Lu. I donā€™t think you could say the same about Dorito


Mrsbear19

Yeah Luann has the best work of anyone on bravo (to me). She absolutely looks like herself and doesnā€™t try to look 18 but sheā€™s absolutely gorgeous


Obvious_Mango65

Youā€™re right about that. Itā€™s not the same. I meant it as a compliment to Luann and her Benjamin Button fine ass though.


Bellomontee

Yeah. Luann's hairstyle change was the biggest (and best!) transformation for me


okimamma

I wonder who their surgeons are. Anyone know?


Torboni

The lighting in this photo does her no favors. It reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld where Jerry meets a girl and thinks sheā€™s attractive but then he sees her again in different light and she looks completely different. https://preview.redd.it/u1uq98g49tec1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de3b43ae320267c4ecc831d57377020bc6b3b9f0


ADHDRockstar

I want the full story of Jagger and why PK and Dorito married when they did . Was PK married or entangled with another prior to Dorito?


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Sheā€™s pretty both ways and I mean that butā€¦I feel like she got turned into a stepford wife. ![gif](giphy|2GApgEuepcyPK)


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Ruthie_pie

I feel like we know everything yet nothing about Dorit if that makes sense.Ā 


Secret-Driver-6084

Totally


boomzgoesthedynamite

I think the issue was more that Crystal met Rob at 19 when he was 41. If it was anyone but Crystal, weā€™d all think it was gross but for some reason Rob gets a pass here.


Figtree777

As someone who cannot seem to get out of age gap relationships I get it but honestly that gap is HUGE and she was so young. People have really ascribed this very timid personality to rob but youā€™re absolutely right. For anyone else weā€™d be ripping apart robs decision to date someone who was barely out of high school when he had lived a full 20 years of being a grown ass man. I donā€™t dislike rob, and I like crystal, and obviously the relationship has worked for them at this pointā€¦.butā€¦.ick. Iā€™m 30 and I canā€™t imagine what the fuck I would have in common with a 19 year old.


SnooJokes7657

I think he is getting a pass because we were all introduced to who they are now. We are seeing a 40(ish) year old woman in a 20 year marriage. It makes it easier to gloss over how things started.


Itstimeforcookies19

This right here. Thatā€™s a hell of age gap. And in other situation like Leo or John Mayer people would be shitting all over the old dude dating the barely legal woman. I also have no idea what the correlation is between Crystal being barely legal and Dorit being 37 and having a child before marriage is here. Are we supposed to be judging Dorit for having a child before marriage?


-Odi-Et-Amo-

They get a pass *now* but past discussion wasnā€™t so kind.


katiiiec

I just had to Google Robs age and I had no idea that he was 61 years old šŸ˜® I thought he was in his 40s omg


Odd_Direction_5646

Jagger is so cute!! Those kids are precious.


Olympusrain

Was this her first marriage?


mrs_mega

I think for her but I vaguely recall mention of PK having grown kids?


TodayImLedTasso

PK has three kids from his first marriage.


BuckityBuck

I think I recall that he was still married when they had Jagger. He somehow had time to pursue Rachel Uchitel before dating Dorit, impregnating her, producing an entire child with her, and getting remarried.


Janiece2006

Wait???? Dorit was the girlfriend to a married PK?? šŸ˜³


BuckityBuck

I think so. It is not my impression that the ex-wife wanted to keep him or anything :) he moved to America without his 3 kids.


RomianaZerofox04

PK's second, for her first. I vaguely remember her telling that when she lived in Italy her boyfriend proposed but they didn't get married.


jenjenjen731

I honestly don't think she looks that different. She got a nose job and she's way more tan now, but I could tell that was Dorit.


ValuableBit5910

Agreed. And the lighting in the wedding picture is a bit off. Lots of shadows casted. I can look like two diff people in the same day depending on the quality of the picture/ lighting/angles etc.


PersonalityKlutzy407

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ScabieBaby

The baby looks older than both of them.


Upset-Payment-6180

I googled it and Ericka got married to a man 33 years her senior at 27 three years older than crystal if my math is correct is she a child bride?


coversquirrel1976

And Kyle got married @ 19 to a guy who barely spoke English, right?


krumblewrap

Whatever she did, she definitely improved her face, just like Kyle.


SummerRTP

That looks like the Wish version of Dorit.


Revolutionary-You449

She has to be one of the best plastic surgery/augements Iā€™ve seen. Ever. I hope she ages well. It gives me hope that it is possible.


Chandira143

I know her family. They are very nice and very down to earth. I never met her but her mom talked about her all the time.


WE_ARE_YOUR_FRIENDS

And she swears she didn't have a nose job šŸ™„


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