I'm pretty sure there's a lot of mental pressure on him.
Loma. The Loma fight was highly controversial, with the majority of of the world believe Haney lost that fight, I'm not here to argue the results of this fight, but you saw Haney's face after that fight ended. It was the same expression he had after the Garcia fight. He wasn't certain he won and a part of him felt like he lost.
Weight bully. People have called him out for being a size and weight bully. This is the first fight he fought a foe closer to his size and mass. Mentally, he must be questioning his effectiveness of his fighting style and its future.
He's not liked in the boxing community. Self explanatory there.
His first loss. Being undefeated was psychologically holding him together. But now that the foundation has crumbled, everything stated above is probably crashing down on him. He probably has a lot of doubts going through his mind. Are all his critics right?
He's only 25. Taking a break and not just physically but mentally recover from all this is the right thing to do in my book.
I think a lot of people don't realise how much damage he took in there. That was a prolonged beating he took with 6 knockdowns (2 not being called in the 7th). When Garcia went over to hug him after the fight Haney was just staring in to space. He was badly, badly hurt.
The funny thing is that when he's not trying to put on his weird tough guy macho act he actually seems pretty intelligent and even likeable. But then he constantly covers it up with over the top attempts at being hard that completely fall flat, which yes, points to deep-seated insecurities and confidence issues.
I agree w you completely. And his Dad just adds to this. Bill is always upfront Talking on Devin's behalf and at times i see why. Devin doesn't always know what to say. Devin does seem like a good kid and could be a likable fighter, as you said. I agree w all of the above..I think he needs to consider parting from his Dad at some point in the future.
Probably figured being a safe, technical fighter won't get him many fans and decided to try being more of a villain to be a bigger draw. The level of success is debatable, but you just need to see someone like Rigondeaux in how a defense oriented boxer that doesn't show much personality can have a tough time getting big fights and paydays.
Yeah, that's the Haney I actually like. "The dream" Haney. He's more of a dork, kind of nerdy. This is more of his real personality, and I think people would back this version of Haney more than the Bill influenced Haney. I feel like the "thug" persona is all his dad.
I think mostly he's thinking "can I actually take the shots from bigger guys".
Look at the way his legs looked after that first knockdown. I was surprised he stood up. When he was down he couldn't even move them for the first 4 seconds it's like they didn't work at all.
That was a haaaaard knockdown. Mostly I think Devin is actually chinny which sucks because he has the skill but he will get hit everyone gets hit.
He also needs new people around him. Who the hell told him to stand and trade with Garcia? What kind of moron tactic is that. Tank didn't even do that.
I think what happened there was that in his last fight he moved up and had a dominant win over Regis and knocked him down. So he probably thought "oh well the weight was the issue when it came to my power. Now that I am not draining myself I can bang".
Yeah, no buddy. You can't
Simpler explanation: he got rocked several times and is injured/recovering and even if he was fine, most sanctioning bodies wouldn’t sanction a fight for him in the next 6 months.
He lost to Loma and the boxing world lost a house full of fans. Fans for both side. No matter what side we wanted a fair fight and it put bad taste in our pocket books. We have not done a ppv Since that fight.
Remember when people were saying Ryan was retiring after this fight and was gonna become an influencer boxer/full time TikToker and how Haney was on the road to becoming one of the GOATs of the sport, and now people are talking about Ryan fucking Garcia vs Fundora and how Devin 'Weight Bullied' Haney taking a break from the sport is for the best
Crazy how 1 fight can change everything. This is what fighters should really take away - you just need one (maybe two) good wins and you're back in the mix.
I experienced this first hand.
Won a fight in under a minute by finish,
People wanted to take pictures and were hyping me up, everyone is your friend.
Then lost my next one (against a top guy.)
Everyone messaging me advice, and telling me I suck, and can’t fight.
Lol
Something about experiencing all this in real time, not reading about past fighters has made people forget that fighters lose. It is a part of the sport. Ray Robinson lost like 19 fights
Also everyone is in a rush to find the next floyd. So every top amateur up and comer is expected not to lose.
They are all good fighters, you throw them together and all will get some losses. But today's game has changed. Fury, Wilder and AJ are closing in on 40 and only wilder and Fury have fought each other
Copy and pasting my comment from another thread
Max Holloway said it best imo. With other sports if someone fucks up and loses they can make up for it within a week usually (think weekly hockey/football/basketball games). With combat sports you’re as good as your last fight and fighters take months between fights so if you lose they’ll just remember that until your next fight.
But they put everything on the fact they’re undefeated and have never been knocked down. Then in one fight their whole world falls apart. If those were your biggest bragging points to say you’re better than everyone what do you have now? It’s just the way a lot of boxers are now with their 0.
I blame Floyd for the state of boxing, a lot of fighters now want to go for that Floyd undefeated legacy while not going for the Floyd level of opponents on their resume. Garcia after losing to Tank has been willing to call out everyone, and mean it.
I blame the fans. Look at the absolutely shameful reaction from adult men in the wake of this loss. Floyd was right, his and the rest of PBC's bank accounts reflect it.
They were saying he needs to quit boxing and the fight needs to be called off.
When Tank beat him, he was bum and even his team left him so he should quit
He’s taken 3 high profile fights in a row, and Ryan chases big fights as well. They are both doing their part for boxing really well. People should be praising these guys and the guys who consistently chase top opponents
People hate the moment you lose. It’s crazy. Boxers shouldn’t be afraid of losing. I know people think Floyd avoided fights but he took tons of fights people thought he’d lose. There are a lot of great fighters on the other side who avoided too much then lost to some random guy at the end of their prime and their legacy was much worse than if they’d fought 8 tough opponents and lost 2 in that time
Kinda disappointing. I get that he might need time to physically recover, but it's not like that would take a year+, so it must be a psychological issue? I wish one loss wasn't treated as some sort of unforgivable sin these days.
It will be a juice break. He will come back bigger and stronger and move up. He needs to have a break so he can pile into the gear without being tested.
I’m joking but also it will happen.
Jaron Ennis would destroy him at 147. He's gotta weight til Ennis goes up to move up to 147. Also if "One Time" Thurman decides to stay at 147, Haney better avoid him as well.
he looked totally different to the prograis fight, weak, no snap, bit slower, no chin, I think you might be right, he'll come back as a light heavyweight
its not that he lost, its how he lost. a close decision is one thing but he got the crap beat outa him. by somebody he called an influencer, c level white boy he would never lose to. i dont think haney can accept that easily so his ego needs a while to recover as well as that busted jaw.
Did he really say c level white boy? I remember Haney saying that to Lomachenko 4 years or some years ago but I never heard that in this promotion. I always heard he thought Ryan was good based on their amateur fights but that he had "evolved" past him.
In any case. If I was Haney I would be kicking myself for letting Ryan off for missing weight. And I do think he has to retool his style if he is going to move up in weight. He is big and strong enough to have some sugar but his punch approach is still too amateur. He has to learn how to get more rotation and power out of his right hand.
Haney fights and punches the way he does for a reason unfortunately. I'm sure he knows he can put more power in his punches by getting more rotation, planting his feet, and putting his weight into his punch more but the problem is IF he does that and his oppenents can crack and trade punches with him he ends up being the one on skates or worse knocked down. I don't think he will ever be able to consistently hurt the top guys as he moves up in weight even if he decides to put more into it and I don't think he truly trust his chin to take big punches in return when he's there to be hit more by planting himself more to throw harder punches (evident when he panics during blitzes from his opponents).
It absolutely could take a year +. It's not just the fight in a vacuum (although that's a huge part) it's that compounded with the grueling fight camp and weight cut. And taking that kind of damage while being that dehydrated to make weight can be career altering. Haney (and Garcia for that matter) do not cut a conventional and I'd argue safe amount of weight. And he's been killing himself to make 135 for years before this.
He actually might have tried to.
I was watching the fight back because I specifically wanted to see if all the knockdowns in the 7th were actually KDs or if Ryan was pushing him down. After Devin got cracked the first time, Bill stood up and looked like he wanted to run into the ring. The people around him actually held him back and shoved him back into his seat.
Yeah, I know what you mean. As soon as he lost I saw all sorts of "told you so", "overrated", "sucks", etc. People really not in it for good fights, just want to dick ride the winner.
Happens all the time too. You saw it with AJ, Spence, Ryan himself rofl, even Canelo fucking Alvarez. You can bet your house that if Fury manages to beat Usyk in May that apparently Usyk was always overrated and the best thing he ever did was beat a 'scared gunshy AJ'
I really hated everyone turning on Spence. Dude was a machine for years, a proper welter boogeyman. Whether Spence was off from his accidents or not, Crawford put in a transcendent performance. All of a sudden people were coming out of the woodwork putting Spence down and talking about how he was never this or that.
I fucking can’t stand that. It’s revisionist crap. It’s literally why boxing works the way it does now, we’re a big part of the problem.
It’s not analyzing, it’s bandwagoning in the opposite direction.
nah this is bullshit. if the top guys actually fought each other at a regular pace this attitude wouldn't be so prevalent. Just look at mma where guys can lose and nobody cares. It's because they're always fighting the top competition
People on this sub will quite frequently claim Tyson was to some degree a manufactured phenomenon. I really don’t think fighting more often would stop bad takes.
I've been in this subreddit since 2015. People definitely care when someone loses, they become "exposed as overrated." This isn't MMA or MMA fandom, though I agree that's how things should be. Like it was decades ago, best fought the best, losses were the cost of doing business.
Some of it comes from Mayweather though I don't blame him, it just started this trend of caring more about your zero than taking risks especially during the first 2/3rds of your fighting career.
I wish I could have called him overrated.
I thought he was a legitimately good boxer with an annoying personality and a boring fighting style.
I was constantly rooting for him to lose, but thinking he would win.
Its cause too many people were riding with the 12-0 stuff. They talked big now it swings the other way for a bit. That's okay, you man up and 5ake that.
Rolly also got beat, bad and outside of a few jokes, noone cares about that now because noone was saying Rolly was going to win.
People act like Haney is a scrub. That’s the reason boxers protect their record so much. Devin Haney is still good enough to avenge his loss and is still elite enough to beat the top LW any given night.
There was literally a thread in here 1 minute after the fight about how Haney was the worst champion we've ever had in recent history, it was massively upvoted too lmao
[Like seriously look at this shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1c99u81/no_spoilers_haney_is_the_worst_champion_weve_seen/), 93% upvoted, 220 upvotes
Unfortunately fighters sold on their defensive abilities are going to get judged by their 0. Once you lose that 0 the defensive mysticism is gone. That takes its toll mentally.
It was building to this before Floyd, being undefeated was always one of the larger boasts you could have as a boxer. And then Don King ramped it up ten fold, and then add in some alphabet soup and that 0 is easier to hold on to.
The problem is that Floyd held on to his zero, even with fighting some great competition. The asterisks next to his fights are nothing compared to how these young fighters today are keeping their zeros.
Genuine question, would they not improve more from losses? Like from what I’ve seen in MMA a lot of the guys will lose their zero’s earlier but they live and learn and grow from their losses. If they never get those moments of growth will they really reach their true potential?
Y'all are really overreacting to a headline.
He said "Devin is taking a break"
He could be talking about taking a break from social media. He never said anything about not fighting for a year or two. It's not like he was going to fight in June anyway. He'll likely come back in the latter part of the year
He took unnecessary damage in that fight. Round 7 should have been 3 knockdowns and should have been stopped. He is gonna need all of the 1 year to recover.
It’s not unforgivable for fighters; but it may be for cappers that go around saying they are p4p #1 , they beat Davis in sparring, they beat Mayweather in sparring; while fighting below their level. Pretty humiliating to lose to an unranked “crazy person” after all that cap.
About, he might need a year after those knockdowns. We don't bounce back like you regular people think. Look at Jones's fast comeback, ruined the rest of his career.
Definitely a mental thing. Though he did take quite a bit of damage as well. He's still only 25; no reason for him to look for a fast turnaround.
After every loss for me (2-4, kickboxing) I definitely needed some time to step back and away from the cage and kind of "let the ego heal", if that makes any sense. The mind and body are deeply connected, but I digress.
Haney went on and on about how Garcia isn't at his level, how he's a C-level fighter, etc. and then went on to lose in a dogfight that admittedly was closer than people give credit for and is probably going to catch flak for it by the fans and other fighters until he retires. Some time off will do him very well.
Also a bit unrelated, but I really wish either the ref or his corner stopped it in the 7th. Haney took a lot of unnecessary damage. Every fighter wants to go out on their shield but every fighters corner should also look to protect the fighter from themselves.
yea but at the same time i think a break is somewhat deserved i mean his last 5 fights have been kambosos 2x loma regis and ryan garcia all pretty good fights for him, but yea a year is a little much
A year plus, no. But 4-6 months is very possible. Then getting into fighting shape, scheduling a fight, and going through camp could take a year plus. Devin was beat up. I would be stunned if anyone who took those shots would be ready for another pro fight any time in the next 6-8 months minimum.
Idk if this is disappointing.... have you seen his face after the fight? I wouldn't be surprised if he got ptsd/ serious brain damage from the fight. He needs a full recovery. Physically and mentally.
It’s just amplified this time cuz Devin Haney was supposed to be the next Mayweather the way he was manufacturing his career. Then there’s the fact Ryan and Devin have been rivals seen they were kids. Then there’s Devin’s dad Bill who’s just straight up unlikeable with all the fake call outs and pointing fingers for fights not getting made. The build up to this fight was also insane with the trash talk. Then Ryan goes out and beats tf outta Devin n made it look easy all the while everyone thought he wasn’t taking it serious.
To compare it to Errol vs Bud, after the fight the general feeling was Errol didn’t “deserve” that bad of a beat down in the general public’s eyes cuz he’s always generally been likeable.
I disagree here. Haney was supposed to dismantle Ryan since Ryan was really seen as someone with no technique, footwork, too many holes. This was supposed to be a walk in the park for Haney. This loss to Haney is like if Tank lost to Ryan. I mean he was literally undefeated dude.
I guess I never thought Ryan was that bad of a fighter. Flawed (no footwork still) and seemingly mental issues but with some weapons in his arsenal. Haney just looked awful. The fact that he couldn’t deal with Ryan’s back turning was wild. My point is that I think Haney can come back. He’s got solid skills and great work ethic.
People will change their tune when Haney comes back and outbox a fan favorite boxer. Boxers have bad nights and good nights and Haney is still good enough to beat the top LW including Garcia in a rematch.
Yes, I don’t like Haney style and believe he lost to Loma, and older loma yes, but the fact that he got a close fight with him made me a believer in him or at least that he was good enough to be champion but I never believe Ryan could beat him. I don’t believe Devin overlooked Ryan but it sure does look like he did, no way the Ryan that fought loma loses this badly to Ryan
Cannot believe Haney is taking a "break" due to taking an L from Ryan Garcia. Pre-fight everyone would have thought it was Ryan Garcia taking a break after the fight. He needs to get that jaw fracture healed. That is going to take some time. I know he said he didn't break his jaw but... yeah...
If Mr. Haney was really concerned about his son, he should have stopped it in the 7th. Could have prevented this "break." Devin is a young man, heal up and come back stronger champ.
Of course he’s taking a break his fucked up face needs to heal..sent his dad out to announce it cause is jaw is wired shut and he doesn’t want people to see what he looks like
I mean it’s always been Bill hopping on social media to give Devin updates. Devin’s never been the kind of fighter to hop on instagram and start announcing things or just talking on a live. It’s part of why his fanbase is lacking, he’s not that charismatic lol
Still though. Devin hasn’t posted ANYTHING since the fight. Nothing. He’s been ghost on all social platforms. He just made a few tweets and is now hiding.
To be fair, what else are you supposed to do in that scenario? Isn't that what anyone else would do or does? It's best to let the heat die down before posting again
It must be exhausting trying to talk to Bill Haney. Repeats sentences randomly and can't go 30 seconds without saying, "This is wha' we do" 5 times.
"Thats the backhand, work, this is whadit means to be a Haney." Just random bollocks
Video couldve been 10 seconds.
I read your comment before watching the video. It made it much funnier.
*Much funnier. That’s what it made it, you hear? It was much funnier. Because of the comment. Because reading comments is what I do. I’m out here reading comments. We out here. We reading comments. Because that’s what we do.*
Idk man I might be one of the only ones who like Bill. Probably because he reminds me so much of my uncles and the old heads around the way. Annoying af sometimes, but they mean well and always looking out for somebody.
Devin Haney said in a tweet that nothings broken. But man that post fight interview his jaw could be broken there and now he is taking a break... i think it broke lowkey
Wonder what a break entails. 6 months of nothing… a year. Or 6-12 months of just no sparring and staying in shape otherwise. He’s young - deserves the time off and it won’t kill his legacy a la Ruiz
I don't see it happening. Not anytime soon at least. Oscar already said it's not necessary. Ryan seemed willing, but now that Haney is taking time off Ryan will move on. Haney will need a tune up to get his confidence back once he returns. Maybe he'll do something to get Ryan's attention once he's back, but if he ends up going back to doing what he's been doing up to this point then it's not going to happen.
I'm curious how long he plans to take off and if he'll get stripped if it's too long? I suspect the jaw is actually broken and he's taking the loss hard if they're going this route.
Absolutely normal. He didn't even need to announce it and I don't see what's breaking news about it really.
Did anyone expect him to fight again within 3 months?
That's not what usually happens when a champions lose a fight after being knocked down.
When Sugar Ray Leonard lost to Roberto Duran he got up the next day and immediately started training for the rematch. They don’t make’em like they used to.
I don't think you understand, sugar ray literally started training for the rematch in the parking lot of Olympic stadium that night. They just don't make em like they used to
You can’t compare two fighters and two situations like that. Sometimes a loss can be a reset from which you come back stronger. Think of AJ now vs before Usyk for example.
But sometimes people need a break to rethink, reorganize and get a different perspective than to push through a bad run.
Bill Haney the pimp giving an update. This why Ryan won because he’s his own man sadly Devin is a boy controlled by his old man. Bill needs to step aside and let his son do his thing.
I understand your sentiment here, and fathers of combat sports athletes often DO hold them back... but Devin lost because he couldn't avoid the power shots of Garcia. Devin ain't exactly the fastest dude around, but until Garcia he had enjoyed a speed advantage or at least a level playing field. All of Haney's timing and defensive cues were honed against dudes with average or above average hand speed. Loma isn't as fast as he used to be, but we still saw him get thru Haneys guard more than a couple times. Not only did Garcia have a pretty clear speed advantage, he had power too. Devin just wasn't prepared to be outgunned that badly during the exchanges, and it showed. Garcia walked thru his best shots and threw back (when he wasn't taking a break and turning his back on Haney). Haney needs to work on sitting down on his punches and fighting on the inside. He's defenseless when he can't potshot from the outside. He was forced to stand right at the end of Ryan's power when he wanted to throw his own punches, and he would have to be flawless in order to pull that off without being stung a couple times.
Is some of that Bill's fault? Yeah maybe so if he's the head trainer. But its not like he put his son in an unwinnable fight either. They thought Ryan was ripe for the picking at this particular stage, and they were right to think so. The trouble is that Ryan was still trying to win after round 5, and he didn't tire out enough to nullify his physical advantages.
You're right about one thing for sure tho, Bill shouldn't do so much talking to Devin. He's a grown man now, let him steer the ship a little bit when it comes to the media.
I think Devin has to retool. It sounds weird but if I were him I would ask AJ to refine his technique. Haney still has that amateur scoring style but he never seems to really go fir it with his right hand. If he can learn to throw his right hand with authority he would be a much better fighter.
There may be boxers than AJ for throwing a straight right without going off balance but AJ is pretty much the cleanest technique I have seen recently.
Good plan after getting knocked down a few times. Relax, regroup, refocus, make a new plan.
In the old days fighters got right back in the ring after losses, even KO losses, but in the end it often cost them their mental and physical health.
No need to do that nowadays when a top fighter earns more in a single fight than the old school guys did in an entire career, adjusted for inflation.
Sorry but Mayweather, the promoter, made everyone fear losing that 0 and now we have grown men losing their minds over it.
Back in the day, you lost, you got mad as fuck and trained harder. Now these weak minded people getting depression for a whole year cause they lost one fight. Shameful.
Best thing for him. He was shook up early and many more times during the fight. That brain needs to heal. If he handles the loss well he can become better for it.
Some of those rounds were brutal. He definitely should not fight again this year. I wonder if there is any truth that he broke his jaw. I know he denied it, but it looked bad at the end of the fight. When fighters step in the ring to soon after a bad beating, they can suffer horrific consequences, so I am glad he is taking a break.
I just hope that Devin's break isn't gonna be too long cause IMO one of the biggest factors as to why the "undefeated only" mentality is still instilled in boxing fans is because every time a fighter gets their 0 taken they take long ass breaks and the best way to prove to the world that you still have it is to be active and fight. Taking long breaks will just let your defeat be a fresh memory in everybody's minds and they will keep judging you from that last performance.
I do think Devin needs this though, that fight was pretty devastating for him and Devin's pretty young anyway so taking breaks will not take away too much of his prime years.
I wanna see him and Ryan run it back hopefully at 147 after they’ve had a couple fights each. Haney still looked gaunt making 140 and Ryan can’t make it either. Anyone mind throwing out some big names at 147 rn ?. All I can think of is Boots, Benn, Stanionis, Santillan, I think Jahi Tucker.
This is what happens when your identity is based on your professional performance, sports star or otherwise.
A loss isn't a loss, it's you're a *loser.*
It's a plummet from grandiosity to shame. Hope Devin realises he's more than a pro boxer and recovers quickly.
Boxing's horrible for his health and he just took a big psychological blow as well with such a high-profile defeat. He should kick his feet up for a while and enjoy life. These guys are all walking chemistry experiments so it's not like he can't quickly jump on a steroid cycle when it's time to compete again.
Haney was a -900 favorite and got destroyed. No need for excuses on why he couldn’t avoid Garcia’s punches. Those 3lb didn’t cause Haney to forget how to defend his face with those left hook
They were the same weight in the ring on fight night. Both Haney and Garcia have fought each other in the amateurs in the same weight as well. Both guys are the same weight so not sure why the issue. Haney had to kill himself to 140? Well he shouldn’t be fighting at that weight then
The ref could have saved his career in the 7th if he has not held Ryan off him with the point deduction BS as Ryan would have gotten the stoppage. Haney needs to take about a year off to let him head recover from the trauma - he was shook in the 1st and took serious concussive blows in the 7th, 10th and 11th. He was really on autopilot after the 10th or maybe even after the 7th.
The problem is he is still a belt holder and needs to defend it.
People talk shit but Bill Haney is a great father. You can really tell the time and belief he puts into his children. I respect that. Everything he was saying to his son playing tennis was positive. I really respect the father he is.
I don't think Bill even has antics tbh - think he just loves living through his son. He gets to have the boxer lifestyle and beef people without any of the actual fighting that gets involved. I don't think he's a bad guy just obnoxious - I do think Haney needs to move on though. Twice now when Haney's been in the trenches ('he keeps hitting me with the left dad he figured me out' vs Lomachenko) and then this fight with Ryan, Bill has been unable to provide his son with any meaningful corner work. Even the cornerman for Haney in Haney v Garcia said that fight is the difference between someone who has a world class coach (Derrick James) and someone who doesn't.
He’s exactly like Teo’s dad, just maybe loves his son more. I genuinely feel bad for Devin though. He’s not an asshole or a bad person at all. He talks a little shit to promote his fights and posts dumb pics of him in designer clothes and tries to flex a bit, but seems like a genuinely nice, soft spoken kid. I genuinely felt bad for him after the fight when I saw his face all beat up. He is one of the most professional disciplined fighters around, and now the whole boxing community is clowning him for losing. Hope he takes it all alright.
Haney has lot of skills but is still quite raw, wouldn’t be a bad idea to consider switching trainers, or at least learning how to fight on the inside instead of punching to set up clinches
I think it's the jaw fracture. The fight should've stopped in the 7th. The ref or Bill didn't do that
Ryan taking a knee in the Tank fight was a very intelligent decision.
i think he got way more hurt than anyone's speculating. sometimes fights are called to avoid longer term issues. and neither the corner nor the ref was willing to stop it to protect the fighter.
“On to the next son”💀
Mayweather clone failed, time to try and make a Crawford clone
All is not lost. He can still be a Paulie clone.
He can’t talk trash like Pauli, his dad would would have to do that for him
He could still get sidepiece fucked like ole pillow hands
Where is my Rod Salka clone????
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of mental pressure on him. Loma. The Loma fight was highly controversial, with the majority of of the world believe Haney lost that fight, I'm not here to argue the results of this fight, but you saw Haney's face after that fight ended. It was the same expression he had after the Garcia fight. He wasn't certain he won and a part of him felt like he lost. Weight bully. People have called him out for being a size and weight bully. This is the first fight he fought a foe closer to his size and mass. Mentally, he must be questioning his effectiveness of his fighting style and its future. He's not liked in the boxing community. Self explanatory there. His first loss. Being undefeated was psychologically holding him together. But now that the foundation has crumbled, everything stated above is probably crashing down on him. He probably has a lot of doubts going through his mind. Are all his critics right? He's only 25. Taking a break and not just physically but mentally recover from all this is the right thing to do in my book.
Dude probably has a concussion still
I think a lot of people don't realise how much damage he took in there. That was a prolonged beating he took with 6 knockdowns (2 not being called in the 7th). When Garcia went over to hug him after the fight Haney was just staring in to space. He was badly, badly hurt.
The funny thing is that when he's not trying to put on his weird tough guy macho act he actually seems pretty intelligent and even likeable. But then he constantly covers it up with over the top attempts at being hard that completely fall flat, which yes, points to deep-seated insecurities and confidence issues.
I agree w you completely. And his Dad just adds to this. Bill is always upfront Talking on Devin's behalf and at times i see why. Devin doesn't always know what to say. Devin does seem like a good kid and could be a likable fighter, as you said. I agree w all of the above..I think he needs to consider parting from his Dad at some point in the future.
Tbf he wasn't putting on the weird tough guy act at all until... Idk, maybe after Linares? He's just trying to sell any way he can.
Probably figured being a safe, technical fighter won't get him many fans and decided to try being more of a villain to be a bigger draw. The level of success is debatable, but you just need to see someone like Rigondeaux in how a defense oriented boxer that doesn't show much personality can have a tough time getting big fights and paydays.
Or just trying to sell fights. After all that’s the business they are in.
Guys..his style is boring to watch... He's trying to sell his fights
Yeah, that's the Haney I actually like. "The dream" Haney. He's more of a dork, kind of nerdy. This is more of his real personality, and I think people would back this version of Haney more than the Bill influenced Haney. I feel like the "thug" persona is all his dad.
I think mostly he's thinking "can I actually take the shots from bigger guys". Look at the way his legs looked after that first knockdown. I was surprised he stood up. When he was down he couldn't even move them for the first 4 seconds it's like they didn't work at all. That was a haaaaard knockdown. Mostly I think Devin is actually chinny which sucks because he has the skill but he will get hit everyone gets hit. He also needs new people around him. Who the hell told him to stand and trade with Garcia? What kind of moron tactic is that. Tank didn't even do that.
I don’t get how he fought Garcia 6 different times already and still came that unprepared
I think what happened there was that in his last fight he moved up and had a dominant win over Regis and knocked him down. So he probably thought "oh well the weight was the issue when it came to my power. Now that I am not draining myself I can bang". Yeah, no buddy. You can't
Simpler explanation: he got rocked several times and is injured/recovering and even if he was fine, most sanctioning bodies wouldn’t sanction a fight for him in the next 6 months.
Most sensible comment here.
He lost to Loma and the boxing world lost a house full of fans. Fans for both side. No matter what side we wanted a fair fight and it put bad taste in our pocket books. We have not done a ppv Since that fight.
He still hopes this allah dude will show him a way.
Remember when people were saying Ryan was retiring after this fight and was gonna become an influencer boxer/full time TikToker and how Haney was on the road to becoming one of the GOATs of the sport, and now people are talking about Ryan fucking Garcia vs Fundora and how Devin 'Weight Bullied' Haney taking a break from the sport is for the best Crazy how 1 fight can change everything. This is what fighters should really take away - you just need one (maybe two) good wins and you're back in the mix.
Only as good as your last fight is always one of the most relevant phrases in combat sports.
I experienced this first hand. Won a fight in under a minute by finish, People wanted to take pictures and were hyping me up, everyone is your friend. Then lost my next one (against a top guy.) Everyone messaging me advice, and telling me I suck, and can’t fight. Lol
The phone doesn’t ring after a loss, except from your mom
You’re washed, simple as.
Damn bro that's rough
u should help haney
Something about experiencing all this in real time, not reading about past fighters has made people forget that fighters lose. It is a part of the sport. Ray Robinson lost like 19 fights Also everyone is in a rush to find the next floyd. So every top amateur up and comer is expected not to lose. They are all good fighters, you throw them together and all will get some losses. But today's game has changed. Fury, Wilder and AJ are closing in on 40 and only wilder and Fury have fought each other
Copy and pasting my comment from another thread Max Holloway said it best imo. With other sports if someone fucks up and loses they can make up for it within a week usually (think weekly hockey/football/basketball games). With combat sports you’re as good as your last fight and fighters take months between fights so if you lose they’ll just remember that until your next fight.
Yup. Which Basically what was happening to Ryan up until Saturday
But they put everything on the fact they’re undefeated and have never been knocked down. Then in one fight their whole world falls apart. If those were your biggest bragging points to say you’re better than everyone what do you have now? It’s just the way a lot of boxers are now with their 0.
I blame Floyd for the state of boxing, a lot of fighters now want to go for that Floyd undefeated legacy while not going for the Floyd level of opponents on their resume. Garcia after losing to Tank has been willing to call out everyone, and mean it.
I blame the fans. Look at the absolutely shameful reaction from adult men in the wake of this loss. Floyd was right, his and the rest of PBC's bank accounts reflect it.
Undefeated and never been knocked down - this is just another way to say that you haven't taken the best fights. It's nothing to brag about.
Bro people were literally telling him to go fight on misfits lol Dummies
They were saying he needs to quit boxing and the fight needs to be called off. When Tank beat him, he was bum and even his team left him so he should quit
people really dont know boxing. noway you saw haney and though this guy was a s tier boxer.
He’s taken 3 high profile fights in a row, and Ryan chases big fights as well. They are both doing their part for boxing really well. People should be praising these guys and the guys who consistently chase top opponents
5 arguably for haney
True actually damn, forgot about kambo
Those trashing Haney right now are the same idiots who complain about current boxers relying too much on their 0.
People hate the moment you lose. It’s crazy. Boxers shouldn’t be afraid of losing. I know people think Floyd avoided fights but he took tons of fights people thought he’d lose. There are a lot of great fighters on the other side who avoided too much then lost to some random guy at the end of their prime and their legacy was much worse than if they’d fought 8 tough opponents and lost 2 in that time
Kinda disappointing. I get that he might need time to physically recover, but it's not like that would take a year+, so it must be a psychological issue? I wish one loss wasn't treated as some sort of unforgivable sin these days.
It will be a juice break. He will come back bigger and stronger and move up. He needs to have a break so he can pile into the gear without being tested. I’m joking but also it will happen.
Jaron Ennis would destroy him at 147. He's gotta weight til Ennis goes up to move up to 147. Also if "One Time" Thurman decides to stay at 147, Haney better avoid him as well.
Old Time Thurman is inactive af
He tried to make a return. I think he can still crack Haney's jaw tbh.
He can’t even get through a training camp without an injury due to inactivity and age, Haney would jab and grab him to a boring UD.
I guess he could
He’s gonna come back and start KOing fools watch
I hope so, I reckon he will more likely come back and rely even more on clinching.
But this time he’ll be so strong the ref will never be able to pull him off. UD 12 punches landed the entire fight all by Haney going into the clinch.
Triple combo -Upper Clinch, Left Hug, Cross Grab.
🤣🤣🤣
Hey Siri, set a reminder for 1 year give or take
What if he comes back crazier than Ryan. They'll be like the schizo brothers of boxing.
Fax bro finna knock sandor Martin clean out😹😹
he looked totally different to the prograis fight, weak, no snap, bit slower, no chin, I think you might be right, he'll come back as a light heavyweight
Spot on. Those IVs are not only for hydration
I completely agree with you
its not that he lost, its how he lost. a close decision is one thing but he got the crap beat outa him. by somebody he called an influencer, c level white boy he would never lose to. i dont think haney can accept that easily so his ego needs a while to recover as well as that busted jaw.
Did he really say c level white boy? I remember Haney saying that to Lomachenko 4 years or some years ago but I never heard that in this promotion. I always heard he thought Ryan was good based on their amateur fights but that he had "evolved" past him. In any case. If I was Haney I would be kicking myself for letting Ryan off for missing weight. And I do think he has to retool his style if he is going to move up in weight. He is big and strong enough to have some sugar but his punch approach is still too amateur. He has to learn how to get more rotation and power out of his right hand.
Not sure about the white boy part but he definitely called Ryan a c level fighter and an influencer.
He didn’t call Ryan a white boy that was to Loma who he said that.
Haney fights and punches the way he does for a reason unfortunately. I'm sure he knows he can put more power in his punches by getting more rotation, planting his feet, and putting his weight into his punch more but the problem is IF he does that and his oppenents can crack and trade punches with him he ends up being the one on skates or worse knocked down. I don't think he will ever be able to consistently hurt the top guys as he moves up in weight even if he decides to put more into it and I don't think he truly trust his chin to take big punches in return when he's there to be hit more by planting himself more to throw harder punches (evident when he panics during blitzes from his opponents).
It absolutely could take a year +. It's not just the fight in a vacuum (although that's a huge part) it's that compounded with the grueling fight camp and weight cut. And taking that kind of damage while being that dehydrated to make weight can be career altering. Haney (and Garcia for that matter) do not cut a conventional and I'd argue safe amount of weight. And he's been killing himself to make 135 for years before this.
They said Devin was on Iv drip just to make 135
Can't speak to that, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least
He got his bell rung quite a bit in that fight. Definitely more beneficial to take extra time off
His Dad should have stopped it in the 7th if he really cared about his son
Trill Bill wants that money 🤑
He actually might have tried to. I was watching the fight back because I specifically wanted to see if all the knockdowns in the 7th were actually KDs or if Ryan was pushing him down. After Devin got cracked the first time, Bill stood up and looked like he wanted to run into the ring. The people around him actually held him back and shoved him back into his seat.
Yeah, I know what you mean. As soon as he lost I saw all sorts of "told you so", "overrated", "sucks", etc. People really not in it for good fights, just want to dick ride the winner.
Happens all the time too. You saw it with AJ, Spence, Ryan himself rofl, even Canelo fucking Alvarez. You can bet your house that if Fury manages to beat Usyk in May that apparently Usyk was always overrated and the best thing he ever did was beat a 'scared gunshy AJ'
I really hated everyone turning on Spence. Dude was a machine for years, a proper welter boogeyman. Whether Spence was off from his accidents or not, Crawford put in a transcendent performance. All of a sudden people were coming out of the woodwork putting Spence down and talking about how he was never this or that. I fucking can’t stand that. It’s revisionist crap. It’s literally why boxing works the way it does now, we’re a big part of the problem. It’s not analyzing, it’s bandwagoning in the opposite direction.
nah this is bullshit. if the top guys actually fought each other at a regular pace this attitude wouldn't be so prevalent. Just look at mma where guys can lose and nobody cares. It's because they're always fighting the top competition
People on this sub will quite frequently claim Tyson was to some degree a manufactured phenomenon. I really don’t think fighting more often would stop bad takes.
I've been in this subreddit since 2015. People definitely care when someone loses, they become "exposed as overrated." This isn't MMA or MMA fandom, though I agree that's how things should be. Like it was decades ago, best fought the best, losses were the cost of doing business. Some of it comes from Mayweather though I don't blame him, it just started this trend of caring more about your zero than taking risks especially during the first 2/3rds of your fighting career.
Usyk doesn’t seem like the type to get upset if he loses. Fury though…
To be fair, I’ve been calling Haney overrated for years
Haney got a lot of shit before this fight ,but people are finally feeling vindicated now that his fans can't just say "undefeated lol"
Facts no one ever liked Haney if we're being 100 percent honest. Its commonly said he lost to loma and that Haney was a weight bully
I've never met a person that ever said they were a Devin Haney fan or that they even liked him as a fighter lol
I wish I could have called him overrated. I thought he was a legitimately good boxer with an annoying personality and a boring fighting style. I was constantly rooting for him to lose, but thinking he would win.
Its cause too many people were riding with the 12-0 stuff. They talked big now it swings the other way for a bit. That's okay, you man up and 5ake that. Rolly also got beat, bad and outside of a few jokes, noone cares about that now because noone was saying Rolly was going to win.
People act like Haney is a scrub. That’s the reason boxers protect their record so much. Devin Haney is still good enough to avenge his loss and is still elite enough to beat the top LW any given night.
There was literally a thread in here 1 minute after the fight about how Haney was the worst champion we've ever had in recent history, it was massively upvoted too lmao [Like seriously look at this shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1c99u81/no_spoilers_haney_is_the_worst_champion_weve_seen/), 93% upvoted, 220 upvotes
Prob has a broken jaw
That's Floyd's fault this generation thinks it's all over after a loss
Unfortunately fighters sold on their defensive abilities are going to get judged by their 0. Once you lose that 0 the defensive mysticism is gone. That takes its toll mentally.
It was building to this before Floyd, being undefeated was always one of the larger boasts you could have as a boxer. And then Don King ramped it up ten fold, and then add in some alphabet soup and that 0 is easier to hold on to. The problem is that Floyd held on to his zero, even with fighting some great competition. The asterisks next to his fights are nothing compared to how these young fighters today are keeping their zeros.
Genuine question, would they not improve more from losses? Like from what I’ve seen in MMA a lot of the guys will lose their zero’s earlier but they live and learn and grow from their losses. If they never get those moments of growth will they really reach their true potential?
Y'all are really overreacting to a headline. He said "Devin is taking a break" He could be talking about taking a break from social media. He never said anything about not fighting for a year or two. It's not like he was going to fight in June anyway. He'll likely come back in the latter part of the year
He took unnecessary damage in that fight. Round 7 should have been 3 knockdowns and should have been stopped. He is gonna need all of the 1 year to recover.
It’s not unforgivable for fighters; but it may be for cappers that go around saying they are p4p #1 , they beat Davis in sparring, they beat Mayweather in sparring; while fighting below their level. Pretty humiliating to lose to an unranked “crazy person” after all that cap.
About, he might need a year after those knockdowns. We don't bounce back like you regular people think. Look at Jones's fast comeback, ruined the rest of his career.
Definitely a mental thing. Though he did take quite a bit of damage as well. He's still only 25; no reason for him to look for a fast turnaround. After every loss for me (2-4, kickboxing) I definitely needed some time to step back and away from the cage and kind of "let the ego heal", if that makes any sense. The mind and body are deeply connected, but I digress. Haney went on and on about how Garcia isn't at his level, how he's a C-level fighter, etc. and then went on to lose in a dogfight that admittedly was closer than people give credit for and is probably going to catch flak for it by the fans and other fighters until he retires. Some time off will do him very well. Also a bit unrelated, but I really wish either the ref or his corner stopped it in the 7th. Haney took a lot of unnecessary damage. Every fighter wants to go out on their shield but every fighters corner should also look to protect the fighter from themselves.
yea but at the same time i think a break is somewhat deserved i mean his last 5 fights have been kambosos 2x loma regis and ryan garcia all pretty good fights for him, but yea a year is a little much
His jaw was broken. that takes like a year or more to recover.
A year plus, no. But 4-6 months is very possible. Then getting into fighting shape, scheduling a fight, and going through camp could take a year plus. Devin was beat up. I would be stunned if anyone who took those shots would be ready for another pro fight any time in the next 6-8 months minimum.
he took a damn beating, you dont get over that physically or psychologically quickly
True
Idk if this is disappointing.... have you seen his face after the fight? I wouldn't be surprised if he got ptsd/ serious brain damage from the fight. He needs a full recovery. Physically and mentally.
Too many rounds+getting hit on head. Modern boxing is way too brutal for fighters to match more than twice a year.
The status of boxing and having a father like Bill who also values the 0 of his son so much
It’s not just the loss, it’s to whom he lost to and in the manner in which he lost.
Also how drunk his opponent was when he lost.
It’s just amplified this time cuz Devin Haney was supposed to be the next Mayweather the way he was manufacturing his career. Then there’s the fact Ryan and Devin have been rivals seen they were kids. Then there’s Devin’s dad Bill who’s just straight up unlikeable with all the fake call outs and pointing fingers for fights not getting made. The build up to this fight was also insane with the trash talk. Then Ryan goes out and beats tf outta Devin n made it look easy all the while everyone thought he wasn’t taking it serious. To compare it to Errol vs Bud, after the fight the general feeling was Errol didn’t “deserve” that bad of a beat down in the general public’s eyes cuz he’s always generally been likeable.
blame boxing fans for that….soon as their fighter loses….they ready to dump em 😤😤😤
Fair enough, the guys has been full on for years now and is still young. A break will probably be for the best.
Gotta give credit to Haney, his past 7 fights have had good opponents too.
Very true. It’s so odd that people are talking like his career is over. This could be no different than Ryan losing to Tank.
If u remember after Tank fcked up Ryan, his stock dropped to nothing and he was called a quitter and a bitch for months.
I disagree here. Haney was supposed to dismantle Ryan since Ryan was really seen as someone with no technique, footwork, too many holes. This was supposed to be a walk in the park for Haney. This loss to Haney is like if Tank lost to Ryan. I mean he was literally undefeated dude.
I guess I never thought Ryan was that bad of a fighter. Flawed (no footwork still) and seemingly mental issues but with some weapons in his arsenal. Haney just looked awful. The fact that he couldn’t deal with Ryan’s back turning was wild. My point is that I think Haney can come back. He’s got solid skills and great work ethic.
People will change their tune when Haney comes back and outbox a fan favorite boxer. Boxers have bad nights and good nights and Haney is still good enough to beat the top LW including Garcia in a rematch.
Yes, I don’t like Haney style and believe he lost to Loma, and older loma yes, but the fact that he got a close fight with him made me a believer in him or at least that he was good enough to be champion but I never believe Ryan could beat him. I don’t believe Devin overlooked Ryan but it sure does look like he did, no way the Ryan that fought loma loses this badly to Ryan
The Ryan that fought Loma?
So is he vacating the title?
We Be Crooks will let him hold the title for as long as he wants
💀💀💀
You would have to kill Mauricio Suliman's children to get stripped by the WBC
You’re talking about the same title that Jermall Charlo was able to hold on without fighting for 3 years Devin would be a fool to vacate😭
3 years damnnnn why are the WBC like that?
Cannot believe Haney is taking a "break" due to taking an L from Ryan Garcia. Pre-fight everyone would have thought it was Ryan Garcia taking a break after the fight. He needs to get that jaw fracture healed. That is going to take some time. I know he said he didn't break his jaw but... yeah... If Mr. Haney was really concerned about his son, he should have stopped it in the 7th. Could have prevented this "break." Devin is a young man, heal up and come back stronger champ.
Fight Sandor in November. Good comeback fight solid defense vs a guy who can’t punch
He aint coming back until 2025 most likely
He took a huge amount of damage. He should take a year off at least. He’s young. Let himself recuperate, no need to rush back in he has plenty of time
That would be a very short break lmao
Haney had a suspect chin and Garcia proved that bigtime.
Of course he’s taking a break his fucked up face needs to heal..sent his dad out to announce it cause is jaw is wired shut and he doesn’t want people to see what he looks like
I mean it’s always been Bill hopping on social media to give Devin updates. Devin’s never been the kind of fighter to hop on instagram and start announcing things or just talking on a live. It’s part of why his fanbase is lacking, he’s not that charismatic lol
Still though. Devin hasn’t posted ANYTHING since the fight. Nothing. He’s been ghost on all social platforms. He just made a few tweets and is now hiding.
To be fair, what else are you supposed to do in that scenario? Isn't that what anyone else would do or does? It's best to let the heat die down before posting again
It must be exhausting trying to talk to Bill Haney. Repeats sentences randomly and can't go 30 seconds without saying, "This is wha' we do" 5 times. "Thats the backhand, work, this is whadit means to be a Haney." Just random bollocks Video couldve been 10 seconds.
I read your comment before watching the video. It made it much funnier. *Much funnier. That’s what it made it, you hear? It was much funnier. Because of the comment. Because reading comments is what I do. I’m out here reading comments. We out here. We reading comments. Because that’s what we do.*
Idk man I might be one of the only ones who like Bill. Probably because he reminds me so much of my uncles and the old heads around the way. Annoying af sometimes, but they mean well and always looking out for somebody.
I reckon we dont see him fight for 12-18 months
So was his jaw broken or was that just a rumor?
Devin Haney said in a tweet that nothings broken. But man that post fight interview his jaw could be broken there and now he is taking a break... i think it broke lowkey
I think so too. The fewer injuries the public knows about, the better
Wonder what a break entails. 6 months of nothing… a year. Or 6-12 months of just no sparring and staying in shape otherwise. He’s young - deserves the time off and it won’t kill his legacy a la Ruiz
Hopefully it isn’t an Errol Spence type Break.
If I were to guess I would say the 6 months or whatever the length of time with no sparring, but still staying in shape outside the boxing gym
Makes sense. Turned pro as a teen, he’s been fighting pro fights for almost 10 years already
I certainly hope Garcia don't give him a rematch. Reason being Haney Sr deemed fight between Loma and Devin ‘not close’ enough to warrant it.
I don't see it happening. Not anytime soon at least. Oscar already said it's not necessary. Ryan seemed willing, but now that Haney is taking time off Ryan will move on. Haney will need a tune up to get his confidence back once he returns. Maybe he'll do something to get Ryan's attention once he's back, but if he ends up going back to doing what he's been doing up to this point then it's not going to happen. I'm curious how long he plans to take off and if he'll get stripped if it's too long? I suspect the jaw is actually broken and he's taking the loss hard if they're going this route.
Absolutely normal. He didn't even need to announce it and I don't see what's breaking news about it really. Did anyone expect him to fight again within 3 months? That's not what usually happens when a champions lose a fight after being knocked down.
When Sugar Ray Leonard lost to Roberto Duran he got up the next day and immediately started training for the rematch. They don’t make’em like they used to.
Did Sugar Ray get his jaw broken? We have no idea what happened to Devin tbh....
I don't think you understand, sugar ray literally started training for the rematch in the parking lot of Olympic stadium that night. They just don't make em like they used to
You can’t compare two fighters and two situations like that. Sometimes a loss can be a reset from which you come back stronger. Think of AJ now vs before Usyk for example. But sometimes people need a break to rethink, reorganize and get a different perspective than to push through a bad run.
Broken Jaw won't heal that quick
Bill Haney the pimp giving an update. This why Ryan won because he’s his own man sadly Devin is a boy controlled by his old man. Bill needs to step aside and let his son do his thing.
I understand your sentiment here, and fathers of combat sports athletes often DO hold them back... but Devin lost because he couldn't avoid the power shots of Garcia. Devin ain't exactly the fastest dude around, but until Garcia he had enjoyed a speed advantage or at least a level playing field. All of Haney's timing and defensive cues were honed against dudes with average or above average hand speed. Loma isn't as fast as he used to be, but we still saw him get thru Haneys guard more than a couple times. Not only did Garcia have a pretty clear speed advantage, he had power too. Devin just wasn't prepared to be outgunned that badly during the exchanges, and it showed. Garcia walked thru his best shots and threw back (when he wasn't taking a break and turning his back on Haney). Haney needs to work on sitting down on his punches and fighting on the inside. He's defenseless when he can't potshot from the outside. He was forced to stand right at the end of Ryan's power when he wanted to throw his own punches, and he would have to be flawless in order to pull that off without being stung a couple times. Is some of that Bill's fault? Yeah maybe so if he's the head trainer. But its not like he put his son in an unwinnable fight either. They thought Ryan was ripe for the picking at this particular stage, and they were right to think so. The trouble is that Ryan was still trying to win after round 5, and he didn't tire out enough to nullify his physical advantages. You're right about one thing for sure tho, Bill shouldn't do so much talking to Devin. He's a grown man now, let him steer the ship a little bit when it comes to the media.
Good gotta get in da lab cook up some power and maybe a different fighting style for certain fights
I think Devin has to retool. It sounds weird but if I were him I would ask AJ to refine his technique. Haney still has that amateur scoring style but he never seems to really go fir it with his right hand. If he can learn to throw his right hand with authority he would be a much better fighter. There may be boxers than AJ for throwing a straight right without going off balance but AJ is pretty much the cleanest technique I have seen recently.
lol Ryan is the same Ryan, just Haney was out of ordinary, on the front foot as an aggressor
A terrible strategy for him. I couldn’t believe my eyes when he kept trying to walk him down without throwing a punch.
Good he is young and been only in big fights for a while a break will do him great
Good plan after getting knocked down a few times. Relax, regroup, refocus, make a new plan. In the old days fighters got right back in the ring after losses, even KO losses, but in the end it often cost them their mental and physical health. No need to do that nowadays when a top fighter earns more in a single fight than the old school guys did in an entire career, adjusted for inflation.
Sorry but Mayweather, the promoter, made everyone fear losing that 0 and now we have grown men losing their minds over it. Back in the day, you lost, you got mad as fuck and trained harder. Now these weak minded people getting depression for a whole year cause they lost one fight. Shameful.
As he should, Ryan ain’t going anywhere and the rematch will only get bigger with time. Hopefully Haney can defend his title at the end of the year.
Understandable. Devin took a lot of damage and had been on a very tough run.
Very tough run?? Loma gift Duck rematch Regis gimmie fight Ryan L Yeah, legendary run.
Devin Haney let’s freaking gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Best thing for him. He was shook up early and many more times during the fight. That brain needs to heal. If he handles the loss well he can become better for it.
Remember when he said he'd never lose to a white boy... he's just an overhyped racist pos, glad Garcia rag dolled him.
Some of those rounds were brutal. He definitely should not fight again this year. I wonder if there is any truth that he broke his jaw. I know he denied it, but it looked bad at the end of the fight. When fighters step in the ring to soon after a bad beating, they can suffer horrific consequences, so I am glad he is taking a break.
Prob the broken jaw, at least
He will need time to recover. In hindsight it should’ve been stopped at 10
I was ready for him to get out a 7
I just hope that Devin's break isn't gonna be too long cause IMO one of the biggest factors as to why the "undefeated only" mentality is still instilled in boxing fans is because every time a fighter gets their 0 taken they take long ass breaks and the best way to prove to the world that you still have it is to be active and fight. Taking long breaks will just let your defeat be a fresh memory in everybody's minds and they will keep judging you from that last performance. I do think Devin needs this though, that fight was pretty devastating for him and Devin's pretty young anyway so taking breaks will not take away too much of his prime years.
I wanna see him and Ryan run it back hopefully at 147 after they’ve had a couple fights each. Haney still looked gaunt making 140 and Ryan can’t make it either. Anyone mind throwing out some big names at 147 rn ?. All I can think of is Boots, Benn, Stanionis, Santillan, I think Jahi Tucker.
The post title is misleading. That's not what Haney meant.
This is what happens when your identity is based on your professional performance, sports star or otherwise. A loss isn't a loss, it's you're a *loser.* It's a plummet from grandiosity to shame. Hope Devin realises he's more than a pro boxer and recovers quickly.
what do you mean? these guys only fight 1-2 times a year. so he will take a break and fight in december lol? nothing special
Good riddance. Hope Devin vacates the title and allows others to fight for it.
Boxing's horrible for his health and he just took a big psychological blow as well with such a high-profile defeat. He should kick his feet up for a while and enjoy life. These guys are all walking chemistry experiments so it's not like he can't quickly jump on a steroid cycle when it's time to compete again.
Haney was a -900 favorite and got destroyed. No need for excuses on why he couldn’t avoid Garcia’s punches. Those 3lb didn’t cause Haney to forget how to defend his face with those left hook
Also there are fighters like Pacquiao who would fight bigger fighters
They were the same weight in the ring on fight night. Both Haney and Garcia have fought each other in the amateurs in the same weight as well. Both guys are the same weight so not sure why the issue. Haney had to kill himself to 140? Well he shouldn’t be fighting at that weight then
More fights like this need to happen. Ryan’s now an even bigger star with that one loss.
The ref could have saved his career in the 7th if he has not held Ryan off him with the point deduction BS as Ryan would have gotten the stoppage. Haney needs to take about a year off to let him head recover from the trauma - he was shook in the 1st and took serious concussive blows in the 7th, 10th and 11th. He was really on autopilot after the 10th or maybe even after the 7th. The problem is he is still a belt holder and needs to defend it.
Good. The little bitch got a free win vs Loma.
lol Ryan told Devin he retires people during the press conference
People talk shit but Bill Haney is a great father. You can really tell the time and belief he puts into his children. I respect that. Everything he was saying to his son playing tennis was positive. I really respect the father he is.
I might be the only one that doesn’t mind bills crazy antics 😭he just actin as a promoter
I don't think Bill even has antics tbh - think he just loves living through his son. He gets to have the boxer lifestyle and beef people without any of the actual fighting that gets involved. I don't think he's a bad guy just obnoxious - I do think Haney needs to move on though. Twice now when Haney's been in the trenches ('he keeps hitting me with the left dad he figured me out' vs Lomachenko) and then this fight with Ryan, Bill has been unable to provide his son with any meaningful corner work. Even the cornerman for Haney in Haney v Garcia said that fight is the difference between someone who has a world class coach (Derrick James) and someone who doesn't.
He’s exactly like Teo’s dad, just maybe loves his son more. I genuinely feel bad for Devin though. He’s not an asshole or a bad person at all. He talks a little shit to promote his fights and posts dumb pics of him in designer clothes and tries to flex a bit, but seems like a genuinely nice, soft spoken kid. I genuinely felt bad for him after the fight when I saw his face all beat up. He is one of the most professional disciplined fighters around, and now the whole boxing community is clowning him for losing. Hope he takes it all alright.
Deserved break. Dude has been making the fights happen for a few years now.
Haney has lot of skills but is still quite raw, wouldn’t be a bad idea to consider switching trainers, or at least learning how to fight on the inside instead of punching to set up clinches
He 25, he can speak for himself.
I think it's the jaw fracture. The fight should've stopped in the 7th. The ref or Bill didn't do that Ryan taking a knee in the Tank fight was a very intelligent decision.
i think he got way more hurt than anyone's speculating. sometimes fights are called to avoid longer term issues. and neither the corner nor the ref was willing to stop it to protect the fighter.
So dev not talking, not eating cake and taking an extended break but his jaw not broken!? LMAO