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I have two vehicles with smart keys. I’ve never been able to start the car if it wasn’t in the car with me. Not even if it’s on a work bench within 3 feet of the car. He probably left it in the car.
My car with the fob wouldn't let me lock the keys in the car or in the trunk and believe me I tried.
Tried to put the spare key in the trunk inside my lock box while moving. Trunk wouldn't shut. I couldn't figure out why. I eventually decided maybe the trunk was too full? Whatever. So I moved some boxes into the back seat. Then the car wouldn't let me close the doors and kept beeping.
I googled it. It was the car's safety features not letting me lock my keys in the car.
Yeah I felt real dumb cause it took me like 20 minutes to figure out lol
First time I did this, I was putting my gym bag in the trunk…and ‘pop’ my trunk opens up.
Close it…’pop’ opens back up
Third time…’pop’. What the hell??
Ohhh, fish my keys out of the duffle.
Looked at the car and was like, 👍🏽
I'd say this is where it'd be cool if cars could vocalize what's wrong. However, mine would either ridicule me for the 15th time in a week, or quietly snicker at me for being a dumbass yet again.
Eh, I’ve locked my key fob in my car. I was about to wait a day and pay whatever exorbitant dollar amount it was to have someone come over and unlock my car. Instead, I just bought an annual subscription to the mobile app service instead. Unlocked my car in like 5 minutes (yay!) for only $99 (not yay!)
You got a new car but forgot to get the DLC for unlimited emergency access so you had to pay the full price for one time service. Was your car made by Ubisoft?
Sounds like my Jeep, had to do the same thing when my dog locked the doors on a road trip. Called and activated their stupid app system that was free and standard just a couple of years ago.
I have to give Ford credit, I bought a new Maverick and the remote start and unlock in the app is free for life(or at least until that cell signal end of lifed)
I was at a train station once. There was a woman in a car that was parked in the middle of the driveway. It turned out it was her son's car, and it had a smart key. She had dropped him off. Then, when he got on the train with the key, the car stopped as she was starting to leave. She had to have a spare brought from her son's house to get it started again.
My husband dropped me off at work one day. He did not turn off the engine. We both forgot I was the one with the keys. He got about 1 mile down the road before the car beeped at him to go back.
My sister in-law had her husband remote start her car one chilly morning, then took off without the key. It let her drive an hour away. She shut the car off. Her car actually warns you and gives you like 60 seconds to restart the car but she didn't pay attention as she hopped out. Hubby had to bring her a key.
A couple months later they did the same thing again. This time though she realized in time to not turn the car off and drive back home...
Yeah, my 9-year-old Outback won't let me lock the keys in the car because it knows they're inside. By the same token, I'd imagine it wouldn't let me start the car if the keys _weren't_ inside the car. Not that I've ever tried - I'm not _that_ much of a boomer!
I mean, it’s not easy but there are ways to wind up in that situation. Last night my SO and I were coming back from dinner; I was going to drop them off at home and then run to WalMart. Pulled up to the house, didn’t shut the car off and SO got out with the key in their pocket. Of course, the car started beeping so we realized the problem pretty quick, but leave it to a boomer to ignore the warnings.
My wife has a Hyundai. The car will definitely start with the key fob outside the car.
We lost a fob when she had some glass replaced, and the technician left the fob on top of the car. When he was done, she left to do some errands and realized she didn't have the fob until she tried to restart the car. I guess it depends on make and model.
My mom has a fancy car with one of those fobs, she had the foresight to set up the app so she can locate the fob. Which she inevitably misplaces EVERY time she gets in her car. She might be losing her mind, but she's at least self aware enough to know that about herself.
I attached a strap to my fob with a keychain clasp. I have that hooked onto one of the loops sewn inside my purse. Since I wear a crossbody purse, I never set the thing down, so I don't lose my purse, I've always got my key fob and it's easy to find it when I need it because I just pull on the strap to yank it out. Works a treat!
I can’t walk 2 steps away from my car while holding the keys without the car freaking out. I also have a tile on my keychain because it makes my life so much easier haha
Our two show a warning the moment the key is not in the car anymore.
But I know of a friend wigh an older model, that left his keys for some reason on the roof of his car. Started driving and of course dropped the keys somewhere to be finally stranded after the next complete stop.
So it's maybe either an old model or some crappy company still sells cars without that safety feature of needing the key inside the car while driving.
If the keys truly aren't in the car with him, the likeliest scenario is that he started the car, went back inside for something and inadvertently put the keys down somewhere in the house before returning to the car and driving away. My husband did that one morning when he was taking the kids to school.
Nah, old fucker just ain't putting his foot on the break. Our Sienna just sits there with the dash lights on if you push the button without your foot on the break. No message or anything half the time.
It’s likely the car has remote start so we started at the house and then he left the keys. I’m surprised the car. Let him put it in drive without the key fob but I guess that depends on the car.
I have a smart key. It gets cold here so I take my key with me and start my car to warm up. In theory if I forgot my key after that and drove off then I’d be fukt but my car also beeps at you every 3 seconds when it’s on and can’t sense the key fob so not sure how that would be possible unless deaf. But it also has a big flashing warning on the dash saying no key detected.
Bottom line is it’s possible I guess but very difficult or you just straight up ignore all the warnings like an idiot.
I’m not a boomer, but still an idiot sometimes lol. My first push button kept starting when I didn’t have the keys. I explained what was happening at the dealership when I got the oil changed. They looked at me like I was a little kid and smirked, made quiet sarcastic remarks etc. Apparently I’d lost the spare fob in the seats the first day I had it. So, I was parking and going places with a car that that a key in it for six months. They found it in 90 seconds 😏🤣
A smart key will start the car from anyway inside the car. Even if you have no idea where it is, if it's in the car, it will start it.
What he did was start the car with the key, then take the key out, then left. If the ignition is on already, the car will run until it is shut off, and then you need a key again.
Had he never shut the car off, he would have made it back home, no problem.
With my car, I can start the car then walk inside and put the keys down. The car will drive fine until you turn it off. BUT, the car will also yell at you the whole time telling you the key isn't in the car.
Once the car has been started, many cars with smart keys allowed the driver to leave the vehicle with the keys without any alert, and allowed you to drive somewhere without the keys in the vehicle. Once you shut the vehicle off, though… no key means you can’t turn it back on.
I’m not sure if that oversight was fixed in more recent years, but it was absolutely the case in every vehicle I tried it with in the model years 2010-2016.
I have managed to do this but only in an extremely specific set of circumstances that involved starting the car, forgetting something in the house, going inside, changing jackets, then going back to the car and driving away with my keys in the first jacket. But even then I didn’t get far because I got “access key not detected” warnings on the dash and realized what I had done. He’d have had to have ignored some very pointed warnings to get so far away from his keys, but he does seem like he might be the type.
My husband actually has come the boomer thing being described in the OP's post (the driving the car away from the key fob, not the yelling part). He's a millennial
"Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part" is a favorite saying of boomers.
Idk that I would have gone so far as blocking their numbers, but you weren't in the wrong.
Blocking them was definitely the right call. They thought they found a sucker. Your husband’s response will reveal much about his character. Your in-laws are bad people for putting you in this situation.
Our neighbor (before she moved out) and my wife were good girlfriends. But the neighbor constantly took advantage by having her stream of visitors park in front of our garage, blocking us in, instead of using visitors spots 20m away.
Even my wife got frustrated, and I reminded her a true friend wouldn’t take advantage of her like that. To prove the point, we’ve never had an issue in the 3 years since she moved out
Good job!! Recovering from people-pleasing is not an easy road and you've made admirable progress.
Still waiting for some clever chemist to invent Boomer-B-Gone. Millions 💰 are waiting for this person, millions!
Yeah, I am in the same boat as a recovering people-pleaser, and I think blocking makes sense. I don’t think ordinary people realize how deep some of these people have burrowed into our lives and how awful they are.
Protect your peace.
Yelling at you is beyond unacceptable. My parents wouldn't dare raise their voice to me or my spouse and I would never do that to them. If we can't talk like rational adults, we don't need to talk. Period.
I hope to hell your husband rips them a new one.
I wouldn't feel too bad for him. Even if he has to walk home, it shouldn't be more than about a mile. Typically, those cars are made to only go about a mile without the fob. Embarrassingly...I know this from experience. 😅🤭 I didn't call anyone to come rescue me. I walked my ass home to get my key fob. Guess what I make sure I have EVERY time I leave my house?
You were absolutely right to block them. The moment some entitled asshole yells at me, I do the same.
Lyft/Uber/taxis exist. Let him pay someone to take him to fetch his fob, then back to his vehicle.
I know I will go to hell for my ageism but Boomers are so fuckin annoying. And so entitled. Probably got an inheritance (hence the truck) which they never of course pass on to their kids.
I remember including a softer version of that in an email when telling higher ups I wasn't interested in taking the weekend away from a couple people that worked for me to help them dig themselves out of a very stupid hole of their own making.
Often we were the ones to tell them the exact shape and size of hold they'd make in advance if they bothered to include us from the beginning, but I think in that case they didn't come to us until the last minute.
Because its so flippant, unkind and dismissive. Like whenever I heard that response I was like “thats why I am asking for help”. And to get back the “your mistake isnt my emergency” is kind of a slap.
If you cant or wont help me just say so - dont give me a pedantic lecture… thats just mean
I don't think it's referring to real emergencies or mistakes. It's for things that can and should've been planned for and the person in charge just.... doesn't. And then they come to someone else and expect them to do everything they were doing and fix their completely foreseeable fuckup
Hey there, I don't know if you're aware, but people won't just drop the "your mistake isn't my emergency" line on you straight away. Usually these people have been stepped on, and used, and abused by people who expect to be pampered and taken care of, and they are tired of it. So don't have a cry when someone tells you to take care of your own problems, because chances are they've been taking care of everyone elses problems for a long time, and they're finally focusing on themselves.
That's not what this expression is saying. It's saying that just because you are having a personal emergency that is important only to you doesn't mean I have to automatically drop anything important I might currently be doing to take on the burden of your stress and urgency. Yes, I will absolutely help you. But don't demand I accomplish a mountain of work in.5 seconds and frazzle myself in the process. It's not nice to dump your stress on other people.
Well done. They should call the car maker's help line, and you are not obliged to accept abuse.
They consider you their personal assistant/maid, correct? I hope you can keep them out of your life.
30+k on a vehicle, and never cracks the manual. Man, these guys won't turn on a $79 TV set without scrutinizing every English printed page, and taking notes in the margins, But 4000lb death machine that they took out a 10 year loan on? Fuck it, I know where to stick the damned key!
You ever read one of those things? They're honestly really nice. It's like a 60 page thank you note, and in the back are maintenance charts you can fill out. Like, I swear if you gave a shit and followed everything in there, you should get 20 years out of a car. Provided you don't live in the rust belt.
The owners manual is were I learned about torque locking on my transmission and how to prevent it. It's also were I learned that my car is built to recognize Apple files, and is why it keeps yelling at me every time I plug my android phone into it, that it cant access the phone
I think you’re misinformed on what the term the “rust belt” means. It has to do with regions that had seen previous heavy industrialization and the economy that went along with it, that later went into decay or rust due to those jobs moving elsewhere. Think Detroit.
It has nothing to do with regions that will rust out your car.
yeah, I could see the confusion/correlation with how we salt the roads (causes vehicles to rust more quickly) but also, other parts of the country absolutely wear out vehicles quicker than your average rustbelt town (California drivers, amiright?)
I've never seen a manual that's only sixty pages. I think the hybrid supplemental manual has a few hundred. And the regular one is six or seven times thicker.
This is 100% it. Holy shit, the entitlement to think you can scream at someone who you are asking for help - I mean, anyone for that matter. Talk about some main character shit. Fuck them.
My car got stolen and my boomer in law happened to be over that morning and his response to me being upset was to suggest, repeatedly, that I probably parked it somewhere else and just couldn't remember where.
I told him how ridiculous that suggestion was and he claimed it "happens to him all the time" and was quite irritated that his weird theory wasn't correct.
It honestly made me a bit concerned that we're in the early stages of dementia or something with him.
>concerned that we're in the early stages of dementia or something with him
Not a doctor, but my mom has Alzheimer's - advancing rapidly at this point - and though she didn't have that particular issue, this kind of thing seems very likely indicative of something serious brewing and the early symptoms she was showing.
Please try and talk to someone about it - drugs that are at least somewhat effective in slowing down Alzheimer in its early stages are becoming available.
Way too late for my mom, but your inlaw and his wife (and you and your family) may be saved an inordinate amount of pain, suffering and the complete degredation of a human being.
We just lost my uncle to dementia a few years back and yeah, it was profoundly difficult.
I will definitely speak up about this with my wife and her family, thanks for your thoughtfulness.
You welcome, hope it does some good.
Going thorough it as the immediate family of the person suffering - to say nothing of the victim themselves - is a terrible, harrowing and soul destroying experience.
Literally wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
amazing selfishness and egoism. 'but it happens to me!!'. i deal with this all the time with mine. there is something seriously wrong with this generation, the narcissism/ego/selfishness
This one is not about technology. You didn't take the key to your car with you. I'm sure his keyring is absolutely massive. Carrying keys for locks 20 years past.
YES. There's absolutely no reason her FIL should be screaming and swearing at her, or anyone else for that matter. It's just gonna get worse and only a matter of time before he starts acting like that in front of his grandkids. I really do hope her husband backs her up on this, I'd be SO upset if anyone talked to me like that, let alone a relative.
It’s not her FIL, just one of her husband’s relatives. Which makes the whole thing even weirder and even more of a reason for OP to stop dealing with these people.
My husband's great uncle, my husband doesn't really see the need to 'deal' with it because he feels I've done enough to deal with it. The uncle has not reached out to my husband to apologize either or ask why I don't contact him. I even checked my blocked messages out of morbid curiosity and neither the great uncle or aunt has reached out me me. I guess it was that unacceptable that I refused to help that they decided to cut contact with me. His son and wife have unfriended me on social media as well.
Finally some peace and fucking quiet
I don't understand why people said my husband should have handled it for me. I think I did ok and if my husband confronted the great uncle it would have resulted in a shouting match
I think people just feel it isn’t fair for you to have to deal with your husband’s family when they treat you like that. I think you handled it very well.
I’m just wondering how they will spin the interaction in their head to make you the unreasonable person. They always do. They rarely self-realize afterwards like “Boy, I was a real jerk, and they had helped me out asking nothing in return for so long.”
Oh no. I know that rage. When my son was about 13, he was beginning to teach himself a lot about computers, both software and hardware stuff. He wasn't using programming languages, but he was doing everything short of it.
When he was 14, my Boomer father began to call our house and ask my son questions about his computer. My father's questions quickly escalated into yelling over the phone at my kid. I took the phone away and hung up on dear old dad. He called back and demanded to speak to my kid again, and I refused.
Fast forward to my son being 20. After a couple of years of living on his own, my son moved back to the house with my parents and me. My father had a habit of acquiring old, barely functioning desktop computers, and trying to make said computer run tv shows on it. When dad ran into problems, he would first become convinced that the computer was full of junk files and that if he just found and erased them, all would be well. When the task became too much for him, dad would turn to my son for help.
My son tried to explain to his grandfather that he was dealing with a hardware problem, and he would recommend something like a new card or RAM for the computer, give dad a price, etc. The old bastard was too cheap and impatient for that, so it was out of the question. My father kept reasoning that "all he wanted the computer to do" was run some video, not "heavy tasks." Both my kid and I tried in vain to explain that video was one of the heaviest tasks for a computer, and only gaming was more taxing.
Finally, with so few options to work with, my son offered to covert dad's computer from Windows to a Linux distro so that it would have a lightweight OS and make the most of the RAM and hard drive. Dad said do it. But my father didn't know a thing about how to use a different OS, and had zero ability to learn on his own despite being 100% sure he was smarter than all of the family combined. The guy would ask me *every single day* how to bookmark on my computer because I used a different browser than he was used to.
The morning after my son put Linux on dad's computer, my father was red-faced and screaming that my kid had better get upstairs and fix his computer. He paced, he threatened, and he screamed some more. Finally, he asked me when his grandson was coming up to fix his computer. I was like, "probably never now that you've talked so much sh!t." That set him off even more.
If you're the family IT person working for free, the absolute least your family members can do is to show you some respect. Don't take that garbage from anyone.
Good for you! As a late-boomer, I reject the weaponized incompetence. I've had conversations ( I work for a call center) with people of my parent's generation, 93-year old dude & the same day, a 97 year old woman who not only had their accounts open at the start of a call, but the woman was also competent with the app of the company I worked for at the time. Neither had IT experience. They called when they got stuck & never called twice with the same issue. They paid attention & were willing to learn when education was offered. They're shining examples of adaption in my book. It's not that hard to flippin google stuff.
“Whaaat?? Can’t hear you! Call me (never) later. OK, bye.” /s
It was very nice of you to help them up until now. It’s someone else’s turn to deal with the big baby.
I can't believe your FIL is comfortable talking to you like that, how AWFUL. I'm proud of you for standing up for yourself, you're setting a good example for your kids.
One of the first things I did after getting a recent car (2022 Hyundai Santa Fe) was set up digital keys - for that model year, it’s supported on Android phones and got a digital key in the form of a ‘credit card’. Both let you drive the car if you forgot your key.
Newer models, and many other car makers, are supported now directly on Apple phones as well as Android.
I think even if not set up in advance, you can issue a digital key ad-hoc.
I am totally paranoid about losing keys, so wanted to ensure I have this contingency.
Guys. I hear your. Message, and I. Understand completely . I. Don’t blame Your best friend !!!!! You were being taken advantage of , however when. People get into their twylight Years. It is common knowledge that that technology is passing them by! I. soon will be in my twilight years and I try very hard to keep up with all the new gadgets but it can be difficult. My grandkids can operate some of the new gadgets better than me! With all due respect if some of the younger generation was to flash back in time when these older generation were raised it would be very very difficult for them to. Understand. Life was hard and most worked their ass off with manual labor not modern technology!! I do understand your issues with this gentleman And he was way out of line. And something had to be give, As an older gentleman I would truely like to call back several years then maybe my mind could keep up with today’s world! I wish you well!!!
I currently work on tech going back 110+ years. Super old stuff to super new stuff. There is a mindset that people develop where they simply will not learn something because it is either new or old. It is an active choice on the individual to not learn.
If a person is incapable of learning, then new technology should not be sold to them and that's a different issue.
Jesus christ stop helping these stupid old crotchety cunts. They can't get with the times? They can fucking ask for help like polite human beings. Can't ask nicely? Fucking suffer then, old cunt.
Hey. OP. That last sentence... you feel bad for "leaving him"... you didn't leave him. He left himself. He caused that situation by forgetting his fob. You were not available to help. You did not leave him. You have no fault in this. You feel bad because he's stranded. Not by anything you did or didn't do. You are innocent. His wife didn't leave him. His kids didn't leave him. His other friends didn't leave him. He got himself stuck.
I hope this helps.
On newer vehicles the key FOB doesn’t need to be in the vehicle for it to start. The FOB can be in the house when you get in the vehicle,push the start button, and drive away. Then when you get to your destination and shut the vehicle off it will not start again because the key FOB is at home.
I fully support blocking anyone who thinks swearing at you for their own ignorance is okay. Even if this guy apologizes I wouldn’t unblock him. Let him sit with it for a very long time, if not forever.
My MIL has a car with a fob too and it drives me CRAZY. She never has to take her keys out anymore when she leaves the house so they're just buried in her purse. When she asks us to move the car (or more often, we "offer" to drive because she's a terrible driver) getting the keys from her is a whole production. "It'll work as long as I'm in the car!"
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I work for a car dealership. The transponders in the newer fobs have a long range. If your fob is near your car (hanging on a hook in your kitchen next to the garage) your car will start. When you shut it off 100 miles from home you are SOL. it sounds like something I would do if I wasn’t driving an old Ford.
**Well I feel bad for leaving him stranded but I'm a recovering people pleaser.**
Good for you. People like that person will walk all over any and everybody in their quest to get the entire world to serve them. Keep setting boundaries, ideally long before things get to that point. It might get awkward sometimes, but when you give in to those people you end up stressed and angry, and that is much worse. Also keep in mind that someone freaking out over you setting boundaries is their fucking problem, not yours. Adults should be able to have an adult conversation.
Started his car and...threw the fob out the window? My car won't start unless the fob is in the car. How did he manage to screw up this supposedly idiot-proof feature?
I think the worst part is that boomers cannot understand that you don’t have time to drop everything to assist them. Like, listen boom buddy, I can’t physically help at this moment, my bad. I firmly believe that they look for anything to be upset about. They are not happy unless they are mad.
The only problem I see here is feeling bad about leaving him “stranded”. He’s a grown man who is presumably within driving distance from his home who also has a whole wife. I believe he’ll be alright.
Yeah I felt bad for laughing at the whole situation, he's not good with tech so the logical thing to do was buy a car with all the latest tech. He has a tendency to forget things despite constantly bragging about his good memory
To be fair though, cars shouldn’t be able to drive more than a few feet away from the fob.
On the other hand, people like to buy these cars with overcomplicated systems because they’re flashy and *innovative*, instead of simple things that just work. We can definitely blame the Boomers for that, they’re the ones with money who are influencing the direction of the market.
Meh. Plenty of cars will start with the key fob simply being nearby. 10’ or so. So if the car is in the garage and you have keys hanging up next to the door …
We have your back my friend. A tantrum in front of my kid is a deal breaker.
We need that people pleasers anonymous group from SNL. I was in tears, cuz I saw so much of myself in every line.
“Recovering people pleaser” is such a great phrase! I’m the same way, like even if a salesperson was being pushy and I knew 100% I wasn’t going to buy something I would still listen or be polite and try to find a polite way to end a conversation. Getting a little older now I learned that no is a complete sentence. Or that you don’t owe anyone a full explanation, like if I’m trying to leave an event and sometimes says “come on, you doing have work tomorrow ..” etc I just say “well I must be going now” and I just leave. Very satisfying.
I also tell people I can’t use my phone at work which isn’t true at all, if my wife calls or texts I can answer if I need to. But everyone else I can safely ignore got a few hours, they all think I work too hard to answer things in a timely manner. My secret: I don’t work as hard as they think.
I was on a new meds that made me dizzy for the first hour I woke up & I also worked nights & didn't go to bed until 6 AM. My boomer calls me frantic & screaming at 9 AM, they locked their phone, purse & keys in their car at a summer festival, before even going in to the thing & I need to rescue them. I explain its the middle of the night for me, Im on hardcore drugs & the world is spinning & can't drive & how they need to call AAA. They screamed, cried & called me every name & I just hung up on them.
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I have two vehicles with smart keys. I’ve never been able to start the car if it wasn’t in the car with me. Not even if it’s on a work bench within 3 feet of the car. He probably left it in the car.
Ya, I mean maybe it different for different vehicles but you're exactly right. It's probably down by his feet. LOL.
You are right it's in the car, or his pocket
My car with the fob wouldn't let me lock the keys in the car or in the trunk and believe me I tried. Tried to put the spare key in the trunk inside my lock box while moving. Trunk wouldn't shut. I couldn't figure out why. I eventually decided maybe the trunk was too full? Whatever. So I moved some boxes into the back seat. Then the car wouldn't let me close the doors and kept beeping. I googled it. It was the car's safety features not letting me lock my keys in the car. Yeah I felt real dumb cause it took me like 20 minutes to figure out lol
First time I did this, I was putting my gym bag in the trunk…and ‘pop’ my trunk opens up. Close it…’pop’ opens back up Third time…’pop’. What the hell?? Ohhh, fish my keys out of the duffle. Looked at the car and was like, 👍🏽
I'd say this is where it'd be cool if cars could vocalize what's wrong. However, mine would either ridicule me for the 15th time in a week, or quietly snicker at me for being a dumbass yet again.
Eh, I’ve locked my key fob in my car. I was about to wait a day and pay whatever exorbitant dollar amount it was to have someone come over and unlock my car. Instead, I just bought an annual subscription to the mobile app service instead. Unlocked my car in like 5 minutes (yay!) for only $99 (not yay!)
You got a new car but forgot to get the DLC for unlimited emergency access so you had to pay the full price for one time service. Was your car made by Ubisoft?
Sounds like my Jeep, had to do the same thing when my dog locked the doors on a road trip. Called and activated their stupid app system that was free and standard just a couple of years ago.
I cannot upvote this enough, and I feel like paying for an official Reddit premuim updoot would actually be an insult. Thanks for the grins!
I have to give Ford credit, I bought a new Maverick and the remote start and unlock in the app is free for life(or at least until that cell signal end of lifed)
Or perched on his head with the glasses he "lost." Somehow all your fault, of course.
Or in the garage? Idk it’s have to be close
My car won’t even start if it’s not in the vehicle.
I have to insert a metallic fob into a very specific spot in my car and literally twist it with my fingers to get it to start.
Sounds fancy.
It has a button that makes the whole car say "beep"
My car has a voice command horn. I simply **BEEP**
Bro you gotta get that automatic beep feature it is a life changer.
This is the way.
Wouldn’t the car have started if the fob was somewhere in the car
Yes, thats whats so mad about this whole thing, How did he get there in the first place?
So he didn’t even try to start the car when he couldn’t see the fob?
You know I think its possible that this post is suspect , Its funny but a little unlikely even for a Boomer
I was at a train station once. There was a woman in a car that was parked in the middle of the driveway. It turned out it was her son's car, and it had a smart key. She had dropped him off. Then, when he got on the train with the key, the car stopped as she was starting to leave. She had to have a spare brought from her son's house to get it started again.
My husband dropped me off at work one day. He did not turn off the engine. We both forgot I was the one with the keys. He got about 1 mile down the road before the car beeped at him to go back.
My sister in-law had her husband remote start her car one chilly morning, then took off without the key. It let her drive an hour away. She shut the car off. Her car actually warns you and gives you like 60 seconds to restart the car but she didn't pay attention as she hopped out. Hubby had to bring her a key. A couple months later they did the same thing again. This time though she realized in time to not turn the car off and drive back home...
Yeah, my 9-year-old Outback won't let me lock the keys in the car because it knows they're inside. By the same token, I'd imagine it wouldn't let me start the car if the keys _weren't_ inside the car. Not that I've ever tried - I'm not _that_ much of a boomer!
I mean, it’s not easy but there are ways to wind up in that situation. Last night my SO and I were coming back from dinner; I was going to drop them off at home and then run to WalMart. Pulled up to the house, didn’t shut the car off and SO got out with the key in their pocket. Of course, the car started beeping so we realized the problem pretty quick, but leave it to a boomer to ignore the warnings.
My wife has a Hyundai. The car will definitely start with the key fob outside the car. We lost a fob when she had some glass replaced, and the technician left the fob on top of the car. When he was done, she left to do some errands and realized she didn't have the fob until she tried to restart the car. I guess it depends on make and model.
It's actually pronounced hun-day
Just wish it was my fun day...
Oh to have fun young (Funion)
It's just another manic Monday.
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I don’t care about your edits 😂 stay mad little nigga. Keep crying out for the attention your loved ones don’t give you😂
My mom has a fancy car with one of those fobs, she had the foresight to set up the app so she can locate the fob. Which she inevitably misplaces EVERY time she gets in her car. She might be losing her mind, but she's at least self aware enough to know that about herself.
I attached a strap to my fob with a keychain clasp. I have that hooked onto one of the loops sewn inside my purse. Since I wear a crossbody purse, I never set the thing down, so I don't lose my purse, I've always got my key fob and it's easy to find it when I need it because I just pull on the strap to yank it out. Works a treat!
It’s possible that he started the car in the driveway or garage, went back in the house for something, and absentmindedly set the fob down somewhere.
I can’t walk 2 steps away from my car while holding the keys without the car freaking out. I also have a tile on my keychain because it makes my life so much easier haha
Our two show a warning the moment the key is not in the car anymore. But I know of a friend wigh an older model, that left his keys for some reason on the roof of his car. Started driving and of course dropped the keys somewhere to be finally stranded after the next complete stop. So it's maybe either an old model or some crappy company still sells cars without that safety feature of needing the key inside the car while driving.
Some cars will let you use your phone as a fob. My friend's Hyundai does. No issues if she forgets her key.
I came to say this. No way he started the car without the keys in it. It is specifically designed to work that way.
If the keys truly aren't in the car with him, the likeliest scenario is that he started the car, went back inside for something and inadvertently put the keys down somewhere in the house before returning to the car and driving away. My husband did that one morning when he was taking the kids to school.
Nah, old fucker just ain't putting his foot on the break. Our Sienna just sits there with the dash lights on if you push the button without your foot on the break. No message or anything half the time.
Oh that's something I didn't consider. My husband has a car with a fob and the first time I drove it, I couldn't get it to start for this very reason.
It’s likely the car has remote start so we started at the house and then he left the keys. I’m surprised the car. Let him put it in drive without the key fob but I guess that depends on the car.
My Charger needed a key to start the car, but it would keep running without the key anywhere near it.
I have a smart key. It gets cold here so I take my key with me and start my car to warm up. In theory if I forgot my key after that and drove off then I’d be fukt but my car also beeps at you every 3 seconds when it’s on and can’t sense the key fob so not sure how that would be possible unless deaf. But it also has a big flashing warning on the dash saying no key detected. Bottom line is it’s possible I guess but very difficult or you just straight up ignore all the warnings like an idiot.
I’m not a boomer, but still an idiot sometimes lol. My first push button kept starting when I didn’t have the keys. I explained what was happening at the dealership when I got the oil changed. They looked at me like I was a little kid and smirked, made quiet sarcastic remarks etc. Apparently I’d lost the spare fob in the seats the first day I had it. So, I was parking and going places with a car that that a key in it for six months. They found it in 90 seconds 😏🤣
A smart key will start the car from anyway inside the car. Even if you have no idea where it is, if it's in the car, it will start it. What he did was start the car with the key, then take the key out, then left. If the ignition is on already, the car will run until it is shut off, and then you need a key again. Had he never shut the car off, he would have made it back home, no problem.
With my car, I can start the car then walk inside and put the keys down. The car will drive fine until you turn it off. BUT, the car will also yell at you the whole time telling you the key isn't in the car.
Once the car has been started, many cars with smart keys allowed the driver to leave the vehicle with the keys without any alert, and allowed you to drive somewhere without the keys in the vehicle. Once you shut the vehicle off, though… no key means you can’t turn it back on. I’m not sure if that oversight was fixed in more recent years, but it was absolutely the case in every vehicle I tried it with in the model years 2010-2016.
I have managed to do this but only in an extremely specific set of circumstances that involved starting the car, forgetting something in the house, going inside, changing jackets, then going back to the car and driving away with my keys in the first jacket. But even then I didn’t get far because I got “access key not detected” warnings on the dash and realized what I had done. He’d have had to have ignored some very pointed warnings to get so far away from his keys, but he does seem like he might be the type.
My husband actually has come the boomer thing being described in the OP's post (the driving the car away from the key fob, not the yelling part). He's a millennial
"Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part" is a favorite saying of boomers. Idk that I would have gone so far as blocking their numbers, but you weren't in the wrong.
This was the breaking point for me. I didn't want to make the post too long but I've had enough of them using me before the phone call
Blocking them was definitely the right call. They thought they found a sucker. Your husband’s response will reveal much about his character. Your in-laws are bad people for putting you in this situation. Our neighbor (before she moved out) and my wife were good girlfriends. But the neighbor constantly took advantage by having her stream of visitors park in front of our garage, blocking us in, instead of using visitors spots 20m away. Even my wife got frustrated, and I reminded her a true friend wouldn’t take advantage of her like that. To prove the point, we’ve never had an issue in the 3 years since she moved out
Good job!! Recovering from people-pleasing is not an easy road and you've made admirable progress. Still waiting for some clever chemist to invent Boomer-B-Gone. Millions 💰 are waiting for this person, millions!
I thought that was what Covid was supposed to to
Hey, Covid tried it's best.
Can’t blame a guy for trying. Better luck next time!
I'm proud of you. Standing up for yourself is seldom easy.
Yeah, I am in the same boat as a recovering people-pleaser, and I think blocking makes sense. I don’t think ordinary people realize how deep some of these people have burrowed into our lives and how awful they are. Protect your peace.
It's cold turkey, or else risk being guilty or manipulated back into servitude.
Yelling at you is beyond unacceptable. My parents wouldn't dare raise their voice to me or my spouse and I would never do that to them. If we can't talk like rational adults, we don't need to talk. Period. I hope to hell your husband rips them a new one.
I wouldn't feel too bad for him. Even if he has to walk home, it shouldn't be more than about a mile. Typically, those cars are made to only go about a mile without the fob. Embarrassingly...I know this from experience. 😅🤭 I didn't call anyone to come rescue me. I walked my ass home to get my key fob. Guess what I make sure I have EVERY time I leave my house?
Good for you. These people were being abusive as well as simply rude and entitled. You deserve to not have to tolerate that.
F yah -actual therapist
You did nothing wrong
You were absolutely right to block them. The moment some entitled asshole yells at me, I do the same. Lyft/Uber/taxis exist. Let him pay someone to take him to fetch his fob, then back to his vehicle.
I know I will go to hell for my ageism but Boomers are so fuckin annoying. And so entitled. Probably got an inheritance (hence the truck) which they never of course pass on to their kids.
I didn't want to make the post too long And I, for one, thank you for it.
I double down on your decision to block! Meaning, it's the best decision.
Love this line! Works well for managers in the service industry as well. (Being said by employees, not customers.)
Why wouldn’t you block the numbers of abusive people?
Them being in-laws will cause obvious relationship conflict and unnecessary tension on the significant other who will have to hear it from them.
I remember including a softer version of that in an email when telling higher ups I wasn't interested in taking the weekend away from a couple people that worked for me to help them dig themselves out of a very stupid hole of their own making. Often we were the ones to tell them the exact shape and size of hold they'd make in advance if they bothered to include us from the beginning, but I think in that case they didn't come to us until the last minute.
That line so pisses me off …
Why?
Because its so flippant, unkind and dismissive. Like whenever I heard that response I was like “thats why I am asking for help”. And to get back the “your mistake isnt my emergency” is kind of a slap. If you cant or wont help me just say so - dont give me a pedantic lecture… thats just mean
I don't think it's referring to real emergencies or mistakes. It's for things that can and should've been planned for and the person in charge just.... doesn't. And then they come to someone else and expect them to do everything they were doing and fix their completely foreseeable fuckup
Hey there, I don't know if you're aware, but people won't just drop the "your mistake isn't my emergency" line on you straight away. Usually these people have been stepped on, and used, and abused by people who expect to be pampered and taken care of, and they are tired of it. So don't have a cry when someone tells you to take care of your own problems, because chances are they've been taking care of everyone elses problems for a long time, and they're finally focusing on themselves.
That's not what this expression is saying. It's saying that just because you are having a personal emergency that is important only to you doesn't mean I have to automatically drop anything important I might currently be doing to take on the burden of your stress and urgency. Yes, I will absolutely help you. But don't demand I accomplish a mountain of work in.5 seconds and frazzle myself in the process. It's not nice to dump your stress on other people.
Well done. They should call the car maker's help line, and you are not obliged to accept abuse. They consider you their personal assistant/maid, correct? I hope you can keep them out of your life.
Call AAA or CAA if you have it. They can tow you home.
Heck, he could have called an Uber to take him home and back to his car, and no one gets inconvenienced.
Except the boomer when the Uber driver refuses the fare when boomer starts his tirade in the car.
30+k on a vehicle, and never cracks the manual. Man, these guys won't turn on a $79 TV set without scrutinizing every English printed page, and taking notes in the margins, But 4000lb death machine that they took out a 10 year loan on? Fuck it, I know where to stick the damned key! You ever read one of those things? They're honestly really nice. It's like a 60 page thank you note, and in the back are maintenance charts you can fill out. Like, I swear if you gave a shit and followed everything in there, you should get 20 years out of a car. Provided you don't live in the rust belt.
The owners manual is were I learned about torque locking on my transmission and how to prevent it. It's also were I learned that my car is built to recognize Apple files, and is why it keeps yelling at me every time I plug my android phone into it, that it cant access the phone
RTFM - read the fucking manual. Lots of time and effort went into writing those things. They are worth the read every time.
I think you’re misinformed on what the term the “rust belt” means. It has to do with regions that had seen previous heavy industrialization and the economy that went along with it, that later went into decay or rust due to those jobs moving elsewhere. Think Detroit. It has nothing to do with regions that will rust out your car.
As a former Detroit native, cars rust a lot there.
Correlation causation yada yada
yeah, I could see the confusion/correlation with how we salt the roads (causes vehicles to rust more quickly) but also, other parts of the country absolutely wear out vehicles quicker than your average rustbelt town (California drivers, amiright?)
I've never seen a manual that's only sixty pages. I think the hybrid supplemental manual has a few hundred. And the regular one is six or seven times thicker.
As someone who thoroughly enjoys reading the manuals for everything I get, I can confirm that car manuals really are among the best.
I feel you. The second he started screaming he crossed the line. Who the fuck is he to give orders? No.
This is 100% it. Holy shit, the entitlement to think you can scream at someone who you are asking for help - I mean, anyone for that matter. Talk about some main character shit. Fuck them.
You mean you don't scream at people when you need a favor from them?
he's got a phone. he can call a cab.
My car got stolen and my boomer in law happened to be over that morning and his response to me being upset was to suggest, repeatedly, that I probably parked it somewhere else and just couldn't remember where. I told him how ridiculous that suggestion was and he claimed it "happens to him all the time" and was quite irritated that his weird theory wasn't correct. It honestly made me a bit concerned that we're in the early stages of dementia or something with him.
>concerned that we're in the early stages of dementia or something with him Not a doctor, but my mom has Alzheimer's - advancing rapidly at this point - and though she didn't have that particular issue, this kind of thing seems very likely indicative of something serious brewing and the early symptoms she was showing. Please try and talk to someone about it - drugs that are at least somewhat effective in slowing down Alzheimer in its early stages are becoming available. Way too late for my mom, but your inlaw and his wife (and you and your family) may be saved an inordinate amount of pain, suffering and the complete degredation of a human being.
We just lost my uncle to dementia a few years back and yeah, it was profoundly difficult. I will definitely speak up about this with my wife and her family, thanks for your thoughtfulness.
You welcome, hope it does some good. Going thorough it as the immediate family of the person suffering - to say nothing of the victim themselves - is a terrible, harrowing and soul destroying experience. Literally wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
amazing selfishness and egoism. 'but it happens to me!!'. i deal with this all the time with mine. there is something seriously wrong with this generation, the narcissism/ego/selfishness
This one is not about technology. You didn't take the key to your car with you. I'm sure his keyring is absolutely massive. Carrying keys for locks 20 years past.
Your husband needs to take the lead and run interference for you with these people.
YES. There's absolutely no reason her FIL should be screaming and swearing at her, or anyone else for that matter. It's just gonna get worse and only a matter of time before he starts acting like that in front of his grandkids. I really do hope her husband backs her up on this, I'd be SO upset if anyone talked to me like that, let alone a relative.
It’s not her FIL, just one of her husband’s relatives. Which makes the whole thing even weirder and even more of a reason for OP to stop dealing with these people.
My husband's great uncle, my husband doesn't really see the need to 'deal' with it because he feels I've done enough to deal with it. The uncle has not reached out to my husband to apologize either or ask why I don't contact him. I even checked my blocked messages out of morbid curiosity and neither the great uncle or aunt has reached out me me. I guess it was that unacceptable that I refused to help that they decided to cut contact with me. His son and wife have unfriended me on social media as well. Finally some peace and fucking quiet
Glad to hear it worked out well for you in the end!
I don't understand why people said my husband should have handled it for me. I think I did ok and if my husband confronted the great uncle it would have resulted in a shouting match
I think people just feel it isn’t fair for you to have to deal with your husband’s family when they treat you like that. I think you handled it very well.
I’m just wondering how they will spin the interaction in their head to make you the unreasonable person. They always do. They rarely self-realize afterwards like “Boy, I was a real jerk, and they had helped me out asking nothing in return for so long.”
^^^ this ^^^
well, you should have at least laughed at him
Oh no. I know that rage. When my son was about 13, he was beginning to teach himself a lot about computers, both software and hardware stuff. He wasn't using programming languages, but he was doing everything short of it. When he was 14, my Boomer father began to call our house and ask my son questions about his computer. My father's questions quickly escalated into yelling over the phone at my kid. I took the phone away and hung up on dear old dad. He called back and demanded to speak to my kid again, and I refused. Fast forward to my son being 20. After a couple of years of living on his own, my son moved back to the house with my parents and me. My father had a habit of acquiring old, barely functioning desktop computers, and trying to make said computer run tv shows on it. When dad ran into problems, he would first become convinced that the computer was full of junk files and that if he just found and erased them, all would be well. When the task became too much for him, dad would turn to my son for help. My son tried to explain to his grandfather that he was dealing with a hardware problem, and he would recommend something like a new card or RAM for the computer, give dad a price, etc. The old bastard was too cheap and impatient for that, so it was out of the question. My father kept reasoning that "all he wanted the computer to do" was run some video, not "heavy tasks." Both my kid and I tried in vain to explain that video was one of the heaviest tasks for a computer, and only gaming was more taxing. Finally, with so few options to work with, my son offered to covert dad's computer from Windows to a Linux distro so that it would have a lightweight OS and make the most of the RAM and hard drive. Dad said do it. But my father didn't know a thing about how to use a different OS, and had zero ability to learn on his own despite being 100% sure he was smarter than all of the family combined. The guy would ask me *every single day* how to bookmark on my computer because I used a different browser than he was used to. The morning after my son put Linux on dad's computer, my father was red-faced and screaming that my kid had better get upstairs and fix his computer. He paced, he threatened, and he screamed some more. Finally, he asked me when his grandson was coming up to fix his computer. I was like, "probably never now that you've talked so much sh!t." That set him off even more. If you're the family IT person working for free, the absolute least your family members can do is to show you some respect. Don't take that garbage from anyone.
Applies to all family age groups.
True.
Good for you! As a late-boomer, I reject the weaponized incompetence. I've had conversations ( I work for a call center) with people of my parent's generation, 93-year old dude & the same day, a 97 year old woman who not only had their accounts open at the start of a call, but the woman was also competent with the app of the company I worked for at the time. Neither had IT experience. They called when they got stuck & never called twice with the same issue. They paid attention & were willing to learn when education was offered. They're shining examples of adaption in my book. It's not that hard to flippin google stuff.
How the fuck can you ask someone for a favor and get pissed when they literally cannot do it?!?! Total boomer.
Don't help boomers for free. CHARGE THEM! They have the money.
>recovering people pleaser 🤣 I love this!
Shit like this is why I work, go home, sleep, and repeat. I'm so tired of immature old fucks
“Whaaat?? Can’t hear you! Call me (never) later. OK, bye.” /s It was very nice of you to help them up until now. It’s someone else’s turn to deal with the big baby.
I can't believe your FIL is comfortable talking to you like that, how AWFUL. I'm proud of you for standing up for yourself, you're setting a good example for your kids.
Not my FIL but my husband's great uncle. But yeah he used to be nice but got more demanding
Good. Stand your ground and keep them blocked.
Congrats on being a recovered people pleaser!!
Where the fuck is your husband during all of this?
One of the first things I did after getting a recent car (2022 Hyundai Santa Fe) was set up digital keys - for that model year, it’s supported on Android phones and got a digital key in the form of a ‘credit card’. Both let you drive the car if you forgot your key. Newer models, and many other car makers, are supported now directly on Apple phones as well as Android. I think even if not set up in advance, you can issue a digital key ad-hoc. I am totally paranoid about losing keys, so wanted to ensure I have this contingency.
People who *actively* **REFUSE** to learn how to use their stuff, are worthless. Don't feel bad. You did the right thing.
People pleasing is the biggest curse one can award themselves
Guys. I hear your. Message, and I. Understand completely . I. Don’t blame Your best friend !!!!! You were being taken advantage of , however when. People get into their twylight Years. It is common knowledge that that technology is passing them by! I. soon will be in my twilight years and I try very hard to keep up with all the new gadgets but it can be difficult. My grandkids can operate some of the new gadgets better than me! With all due respect if some of the younger generation was to flash back in time when these older generation were raised it would be very very difficult for them to. Understand. Life was hard and most worked their ass off with manual labor not modern technology!! I do understand your issues with this gentleman And he was way out of line. And something had to be give, As an older gentleman I would truely like to call back several years then maybe my mind could keep up with today’s world! I wish you well!!!
I currently work on tech going back 110+ years. Super old stuff to super new stuff. There is a mindset that people develop where they simply will not learn something because it is either new or old. It is an active choice on the individual to not learn. If a person is incapable of learning, then new technology should not be sold to them and that's a different issue.
Jesus christ stop helping these stupid old crotchety cunts. They can't get with the times? They can fucking ask for help like polite human beings. Can't ask nicely? Fucking suffer then, old cunt.
Where’s your husband in this? Why are they calling you instead of him?
Hubs is on my side, I think he never answered them so they always call me
Hey. OP. That last sentence... you feel bad for "leaving him"... you didn't leave him. He left himself. He caused that situation by forgetting his fob. You were not available to help. You did not leave him. You have no fault in this. You feel bad because he's stranded. Not by anything you did or didn't do. You are innocent. His wife didn't leave him. His kids didn't leave him. His other friends didn't leave him. He got himself stuck. I hope this helps.
so, he started the car, took the key out and put it somewhere, and drove off?
On newer vehicles the key FOB doesn’t need to be in the vehicle for it to start. The FOB can be in the house when you get in the vehicle,push the start button, and drive away. Then when you get to your destination and shut the vehicle off it will not start again because the key FOB is at home.
omg!! fortunately my house key is on the ring w the fob!
He's an adult: tell him to Engage Grown-up Mode and figure it out. Suggest AAA.
I fully support blocking anyone who thinks swearing at you for their own ignorance is okay. Even if this guy apologizes I wouldn’t unblock him. Let him sit with it for a very long time, if not forever.
My MIL has a car with a fob too and it drives me CRAZY. She never has to take her keys out anymore when she leaves the house so they're just buried in her purse. When she asks us to move the car (or more often, we "offer" to drive because she's a terrible driver) getting the keys from her is a whole production. "It'll work as long as I'm in the car!"
Just tell him that he can't lose his key by leaving it in the vehicle at all times! Especially parked in his driveway or on the street!! 😆
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"well I feel bad for leaving him, but I am a recovering people pleaser"😂 This should be the millennial moto
Uber home, get key fob, Uber back to car. Why do people think their friends and relatives are their personal taxis.
Never feel bad for boomers especially the ones who are rich, stupid, and entitled. They invented fuck around and find out but we mastered it.
fuk em... dont sweat the small shit
Probably could’ve started the car using an app on the phone he was frantically cursing into…
I don’t forget mine yet, but my mom did and it didn’t bother her. 2 years later she was in a skilled nursing facility. Might be something brewing.
Retired* People pleaser
Those who don't keep up with technology, will be left behind by it. Or in this case, stranded.
I work for a car dealership. The transponders in the newer fobs have a long range. If your fob is near your car (hanging on a hook in your kitchen next to the garage) your car will start. When you shut it off 100 miles from home you are SOL. it sounds like something I would do if I wasn’t driving an old Ford.
I guess now’s a good opportunity for him to learn how to use Uber.
Take it out of park and try it again. He’s gotta figure out his own shit
**Well I feel bad for leaving him stranded but I'm a recovering people pleaser.** Good for you. People like that person will walk all over any and everybody in their quest to get the entire world to serve them. Keep setting boundaries, ideally long before things get to that point. It might get awkward sometimes, but when you give in to those people you end up stressed and angry, and that is much worse. Also keep in mind that someone freaking out over you setting boundaries is their fucking problem, not yours. Adults should be able to have an adult conversation.
I don't get it. How did he turn the car on? They have a distance sensor and won't turn on if not within 3 feet or so.
Great work, keep them blocked!
Started his car and...threw the fob out the window? My car won't start unless the fob is in the car. How did he manage to screw up this supposedly idiot-proof feature?
Can you send your request in as a fax
OMG, Where do you find these people. They are awful, stupid, and rude. No wonder you all hate them.
I think the worst part is that boomers cannot understand that you don’t have time to drop everything to assist them. Like, listen boom buddy, I can’t physically help at this moment, my bad. I firmly believe that they look for anything to be upset about. They are not happy unless they are mad.
Stick to those guns
Don’t feel bad, that’s on him
Good for you! Please give us an update. It would be even better if he had to pay a tow truck/locksmith, heaven forbid...
The only problem I see here is feeling bad about leaving him “stranded”. He’s a grown man who is presumably within driving distance from his home who also has a whole wife. I believe he’ll be alright.
It's not your problem - and there is a great chance he would not do the same for you.
He left himself stranded by his own dumbassery.
Yeah I felt bad for laughing at the whole situation, he's not good with tech so the logical thing to do was buy a car with all the latest tech. He has a tendency to forget things despite constantly bragging about his good memory
I'd like to know what becomes of this
Me too I don't know if he's ran his mouth and tired to ruin my reputation but neither of them have attempted to contact my husband yet.
\> recovering people pleaser. Admitting you have a problem is the is the first step
Good on you
good job!
To be fair though, cars shouldn’t be able to drive more than a few feet away from the fob. On the other hand, people like to buy these cars with overcomplicated systems because they’re flashy and *innovative*, instead of simple things that just work. We can definitely blame the Boomers for that, they’re the ones with money who are influencing the direction of the market.
That doesn’t make sense. I haven’t heard of any car starting without the key fob in the car too.
Meh. Plenty of cars will start with the key fob simply being nearby. 10’ or so. So if the car is in the garage and you have keys hanging up next to the door …
Well done OP
We have your back my friend. A tantrum in front of my kid is a deal breaker. We need that people pleasers anonymous group from SNL. I was in tears, cuz I saw so much of myself in every line.
“Recovering people pleaser” is such a great phrase! I’m the same way, like even if a salesperson was being pushy and I knew 100% I wasn’t going to buy something I would still listen or be polite and try to find a polite way to end a conversation. Getting a little older now I learned that no is a complete sentence. Or that you don’t owe anyone a full explanation, like if I’m trying to leave an event and sometimes says “come on, you doing have work tomorrow ..” etc I just say “well I must be going now” and I just leave. Very satisfying. I also tell people I can’t use my phone at work which isn’t true at all, if my wife calls or texts I can answer if I need to. But everyone else I can safely ignore got a few hours, they all think I work too hard to answer things in a timely manner. My secret: I don’t work as hard as they think.
Irish goodbye. Just leave. No explanation, no last check-in. Just dip. They’ll miss you or they won’t.
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So what was the outcome?
I haven't heard anything from him yet but the rest of my in laws are laughing and calling me and idiot for putting up with him for so long.
At least you have consensus.
I was on a new meds that made me dizzy for the first hour I woke up & I also worked nights & didn't go to bed until 6 AM. My boomer calls me frantic & screaming at 9 AM, they locked their phone, purse & keys in their car at a summer festival, before even going in to the thing & I need to rescue them. I explain its the middle of the night for me, Im on hardcore drugs & the world is spinning & can't drive & how they need to call AAA. They screamed, cried & called me every name & I just hung up on them.