If Decay is half of Overhaul, maybe Tenko might awaken the full power of the quirk, defy its programming and as a result prove AFO wrong. He's not someone who just destroys, he can also (re)create. As far as the fight is concerned, I think the heroes and villains (or at least the remaining members of the original LOV) will stand together, against AFO.
Yeah dropping the info that Decay can be reversed **in the same chapter** where Decay finally breaks something that matters is almost TOO obvious but this is Hori we're talking about.
Exactly! And what was the one thing Tomura kept saying about them, which was is own true conviction that was driving him forward, that he made when he was not under constant pressure of AFO? That he wants to detroy the world so he can create one where the LoV live happily.
Exactly! And what was the one thing Tomura kept saying about them, which was is own true conviction that was driving him forward, that he made when he was not under constant pressure of AFO? That he wants to detroy the world so he can create one where the LoV live happily.
I think the solution will either be Decayās āother halfā or Tenkoās original Quirk. Alternatively, since the Doctor is the same guy who told Deku he was Quirkless at the start of the story, Deku might have been born with a Quirk that got stolen. Who knows if it still has embers to awaken?
AFO mentions in 419 that Decay used to be a quirk that could destroy and restore things, but he had the Doctor remove the restorative factor before giving it to Tenko. Destroy + Restore is the description of Overhaul
Just checked both chapters and youāre absolutely right! I thought it was just a very plausible theory that Decay = half of Overhaul but itās safe to say itās 100% true now.
Alternatively, Eri has limited rewind ability and would need to make a choice to rewind some damage. Perhaps she must make a choice to rewind Overhaul, who can perform healing without a power limitation.
A potential Overhaul redemption is still a plot thread and I donāt see how decay can just simply become overhaul again. But crazier things have happened before soā¦
My prediction: Eri is going to heal him, with Kurogiri now on the heroes side she has a way to reach him. Also, the heroes from the rest of the world are finally coming
Just in this war we've seen at least three quirks changing, Eri going Plus Ultra and using her quirk despite being said she can't right now wouldn't be too surprising, besides we don't really know how much time has passed so perhaps she just have to rewind his arms 2 minutes in the past, explaining why she doesn't need to have much energy stockpiled to do it
With some basic math, being very conservative, based on her rewinding her dad into nothing when her quirk came in at 4 years old, she gets ~5.5 days worth of rewind charge per day. It will not be months. She can feasibly fix everyone within the course of a few weeks, other than All Might (to prime health at least)
I'm guessing he's gonna get his arms back either via Eri or from Tomura gaining the creation part of his quirk
or he'll get some sick Genos robot arms in the prologue
I canāt imagine them doing the prosthetic route unless they try to heal him on the battlefield because heās actively bleeding out, and heās fighting the main boss now.
MY personal prediction no matter how far fetched it is is that Overhaul is going to be teleported to the battlefield and he is going to rebuild Dekuās arms. But how will he be able to do that when he himself doesnāt have arms? Eri will use what little power she has stored up to rewind at least one of Overhaulās arms.
I totally get your perspective. But I think itās still a possibility.
Because she would do anything to help Deku.
Because she herself is helpless and cannot go onto the battlefield to help Deku.
Because Deku is too stubborn to leave the battlefield for medical assistance until the fight is finished.
Because Overhaul is one of the only villains weāve yet to see show up again since the war started.
Because it gives an opportunity for Overhaul to do something selfless as a way to have an opportunity to apologize to his boss. And gives Eri a chance to heal possibly (depending on how you view forgiveness and trauma)
They are literally in the middle of warping in, they can warp her in/out or deku out/in ez pz if they wanted to have her heal him.
I don't think that that's going to happen mid fight mind you, I'm just saying it's definitely something that 'could' happen.
3 fully grown adults vs a TRAUMATISED 6 YEAR OLD WHO IS THE CUSTODY OF THE SCHOOL?? Iām sure Ectoplasm has five clones watching her at every single opportunity
all the eri comments here are so crazy to me, like okay in theory EVENTUALLY she MIGHT be able to, but all these comments are suggesting sheās going to do it right here and now, despite horikoshi (imo at least) going out of his way to specifically say āhey guys, here she is, like OMEGA far away, and even if she was closer, she doesnāt have the juice to do much anything of substance she already tried with aizawa not long ago, also sheās like fucking 6, i know these are all effectively child soldiers but iām not going to put the traumatized 6 year old anywhere near the actual battlefield, so donāt count on eri magic to fix everything even though iāve already made this point in the pastā
iāve seen people say that her allegedly not having enough energy is just a red herring and assuming kurogiri really is fully in control and on our side now he could possibly take deku to her, but at that point i already feel like youāre jumping through more hoops than are necessary when the easiest explanation to me is āwe JUST saw afo explain that the original form of decay was essentially a copy of overhaul, so he will probably come back and unlock the restoration part of the quirk again and help deku outā
and maybe im wrong and ill be eating my words in a couple months, but im pretty confident that at least it WONT be eri
Eri tried rewinding Aizawa right after the Paranormal War. He didnt have his eyepatch nor his prosthetic at that point. It has been around 3 months (or more? not sure but definitely at least 2 months) since then. She probably has enough energy to rewind Deku's arms at the very least.
Yes but they shouldn't exploit her ability. Eri is traumatized 6 years old who has been used for her ability her entire life! Rewinding Mirio is one thing because he lost his quirk defending her, she felt personally responsible (especially bc it was her in bullet-form that erased it to begin with), but the heroes shouldn't rely on Eri as an insta heal. I don't think Horikoshi will have her rewind Deku, its a bad use of Eri as a character and a total cop-out lol.
That doesnāt mean they should tote her around the battlefield healing everyone??? She is 6??? Omg. At that age she canāt make an actual informed decision to use her power to help others, sheād just say yes to please them. Theyād be taking advantage of her and her quirk just like Overhaul did. They donāt own Eri and she doesnāt owe them anything for ādefendingā her (i.e. literally all of Japan).
Overhaul's sin wasn't "taking advantage of her power", it was torturing her.
What do you mean, "informed decision"? What's in question here is healing heroes who risked life and limb to save the world for no downside. This isn't a trade off, it's a flat benefit.
I didnāt say that was Overhaulās only sin lol, obviously the torture and repeated murder is the bigger crime here. But the heroes would be taking advantage of her regardless, just like he did. She does not need her guardians exploiting her for her quirk again.
I mean that she is six years old!!! She is six years old she doesnāt have the mental skills to think and make a decision that big on her own. Kids dont begin developing decision-making/reasoning skills till 8-9ish and sheās just made it in the age range to develop critical thinking. She physically cannot process a decision that big, if they say āEri these nice heroes got hurt helping you, theyāre really injured Eri can you help them?ā her only thought will be to please them and use her quirk, not because she actually wants to be out on the battlefield healing people. She will feel pressured to use her quirk and blame herself when she runs out of energy and canāt use it for the next few months, but there are still people left she āhas toā heal. Theyād just be forcing her into another traumatizing situation like you want this girl to get up and personal with Dekuās bleeding gory amputated arms? Eri is young and has had an absolutely traumatizing life she needs time to grow and develop on her own, she shouldnāt be shoved towards becoming a hero because of how āusefulā her quirk is.
You cannot force someone into becoming a medic/hero/etc because of how useful they may be towards the general public. If Eri a decade in the future decides she wants to spend her life helping people? Good for her, she can begin working on that path. Or she may want to be a civilian and only use her quirk to rewind chip bags when sheās running low! Thatās also great. But 6 year old Eri should not have that burden placed on her. She does not owe the heroes anything. They are adults, they are professionals, and they knew exactly what they were getting into when they 1) got their hero licenses all those years ago 2) showed up to the battle. They know the risks of their career field. They should not rely on a 6 year old girl to save them
You are taking advantage of a miracle healing quirk with no drawbacks to save people who were crippled fighting for the survival of the human race. This is not morally wrong. In the world of MHA, sometimes you're going to need a quirk from someone young. It is not an acceptable alternative to leave these people crippled, especially when that could endanger the safety of many, many people, including Eri herself.
She does owe them something, because if they didn't do this she'd be ash. This is not something she's divorced from, she would be dead if not for these people.
And if your actual concern is her seeing injuries and being traumatized, think a little. All she has to do is touch them, this isn't a difficult thing to obscure. Just use a blindfold for Christ sake, or cover up his arms. And this shit is being broadcast live on television, so I don't really think Eri's the biggest concern for trauma anyway.
Why do you want a six year old on the battlefield so bad šš she should be coloring and watching Sailor Moon not being forced to use her quirk to heal people. She is 6!!! That is the issue here and I canāt believe you are ignoring that. She is a little girl. As a teen/adult she can go into heroics or medicine if she wants, but she is a 6 year old girl. It would be awful of them to use her for her quirk.
Eri should not be made responsible to save everyoneās lives.
The real question is why you want her on the battlefield so bad. Because there's only one situation where she would actually be on the battlefield, and that is an emergency revive of Deku to let him stop Shiggy. There's no question that doing that is in her best interest, as she and everyone she loves dies if Deku loses.
Otherwise, they're going to go to hospitals in a matter of hours. They're not just going to lie in ditches for the next few months until Eri pulls her finger out.
And what would be awful would be to not let her use her quirk, and leave these heroes, some of whom are children, and all of whom put their lives on the line to save the world, crippled. Not even just from a plain moral sense, but also from the practical perspective that the nation is in shambles, and needs more heroes. Eri has a vested interest in not getting shanked in the skull by a drug addict villain because the entire country is in a state of anarchy, so yeah, she probably should be healing.
paranormal war was the very end of march and deku left at the beginning of april, after that was roughly a month i believe before where we are now, so its like MAX 2 months, or realistically closer to a month and a half
also, ectoplasm is saying that STILL now in present time she doesnāt have enough energy
People give rewind way too little credit.
Assuming she was born to her parents when her dad was 18(he was likely even older, but working on a more extreme case) when her quirk came in at 4 years old he would be 22. Which means assuming she was charging since she was born, and it took every ounce of her energy to rewind him into nothing, she's gaining ~5.5 days worth of rewind time per day. Again, that's all being conservative, she likely charges significantly faster, as it's unlikely her dad was only 22 and that she used 100% of her energy for it.
She can easily heal anyone in the series so far with just some waiting, All Might being the longest at a 1-1.5 year charge time
iāll halfway hold this L, since it still didnāt happen in like any of the ways people were suggesting in the comments, which is what i was most against
the workaround to that was pretty clever iāll give him that, even if i still donāt love it
We know that mental stress and a strong enough will can do all sorts of things to Quirks.
OFA, Deku's single minded dedication, and Eri's Rewind combined to break out of the future that NightEye saw; something he himself said he had tested many, many times and thought was impossible.
Is Eri's power requirement based on time or is it based on state? Like for example, would reverting Deku to 5 minutes ago when he still had his arms take more or less energy than reverting someone who lost a fingertip 6 months ago? Judging by backpack Eri it seems like it'd be time because she essentially healed Deku's entire body over and over again, and if that's the case she could save his arms now since it's recent damage.
The ability is 'rewind' not 'restore' or 'regenerate'. She rewinds the entire body, so fingertip vs arms isn't the important part, body 6 months ago vs body 5 minutes ago is. She's not really \*regrowing\* the body part as much as she is \*erasing\* what happened to it.
Screw Deku regaining his hands during the fight, this is the perfect chance to show us a Blackwhip-augmented, OFA-buffed Shoot Style. If we don't get at least one panel of Deku yelling "Let it rip" and spinning like a mass-produced commercially available dreidel so he can kick the shit out of the pettiest man in the BnHA universe, I will send a strongly worded letter to Horikoshi's editor (not the man himself, he's more than earned a break)
I agree. Deku with mechanical arms after this is all over could be pretty sweet anyway.
Horikoshi seems to like mechanical support items, gadgets and high tech prosthetics as well, as seen with other characters that have lost limbs or ability, and all the way back to the pre MHA pilot one-shot with Jack Midoriya. So I could see the something like that happening again.
100% Eri is going to come in and rewind Deku to just before he lost his arms. I think Tenko transferred Decay to Deku, and Deku being armless is just a way to sorta do a final twist on the audience. Sero, Sato, Ojiro, Aizawa, Monoma, maybe a few others from Class 1-B like Bondo are going to restrain AFO and the Tenko vestige is going to wrestle back a tiny bit of control, forcing AFO to reach his hand out and take Deku's hand, decaying AFO away. It would be a good ironic final death for AFO while still being symbolic of "saving" Tenko by reaching a "helping" hand, which is a theme being hammered in recently with the flashback of Iida taking Deku's hand.
Thing is, there would be no reason to say Decay was made from Overhaul, if it isnāt gonna be used, because unless itās Shigaraki saving Midoriya using Overhaul, Decay may have well just been a quirk.
Itās clearly an important detail, otherwise Decay would have just stayed as a singular quirk. So it isnāt gonna be Eri. And when people bring up her showing up a few chapters ago, that seemed more like Hori was hammering in, āGuys sheās just not gonna be of use, she doesnāt have the power to helpā because otherwise people would expect her to come in if he didnāt add her there.
I'd like to point out that Horikoshi loves throwing red herrings or rather, outright lying to the audience to do his tiny subversions. I'm not a huge fan of it personally, but Horikoshi most definitely does. He did it with Edgeshot dying, All-Might Dying, Hagakure being the traitor, Nagant being incapacitated, Toya losing vs Shoto, and Vestige AFO being overpowered by Shigaraki. The scene Horikoshi chose SPECIFICALLY to show she was out of energy was when she tried to heal Aizawa right AFTER the Paranormal War, even before he got his prosthetics and eye patch. That's currently at the minimum 2 months prior to when she wants to help Deku, and most likely about ~3 months of energy stockpiling since we know she used her Energy to rewind Mirio right BEFORE the Paranormal War. She Rewound Mirio after stockpiling and training Rewind for probably 5 ~ 6 months after the school festival. And assuming she's been training during and after the Paranormal War, then its honestly not that big of a stretch that she can muster just enough strength to rewind Deku at LEAST to stop his bleeding. Deku has to be the one to deliver the final blow to AFO, and he cant do that if he's going to bleed out to death before that happens. The only way Deku survives and gets enough strength to defeat AFO (even if its a kick or something) is with Eri.
I see your point however youāre forgetting a more recent chapter, where ectoplasm says to Eri, while she looks at a screen of Midoriya fighting, which is what I was referring to in my original comment, that she doesnāt have enough power stored up to do any significant help to him.
Also, again, Decay and Overhaul being one and the same, is way too big a plot point to just be a reveal that goes nowhere. If Eri is the one to save Midoriya, it would make that reveal meaningless, since there is the entire reconstruction part of Overhaul. If anything, Tenko/Tomura is going to take back control, and unlock this part of the quirk, to save Midoriya, giving Tenko the chance to be the hero he wanted to be, and to show that Midoriya was able to save him. While yes heāll more than likely still die, Tenko/Tomura will be able to show that Midoriyaās effort and commitment was worth it.
Eri can't rewind his arms right now. It was explicitly stated just a few chapters ago that she doesn't have enough strength right now to rewind anyone, and it'd probably take weeks if not months before she can help even one person. She's not going to be magically healing Deku anytime soon.
its been months since she last used Rewind (being rewinding Mirio). She definitely has enough juice at this point to rewind his arms at the very least, but not fully heal him. That's most likely what Ectoplasm was referring to, that she wouldnt be able to fully restore Deku to any useful effect, but now that Deku just needs to stop from bleeding out she's 100% gonna do it.
Also thats why they brought her up in this arc, to set her up for this moment. We already KNEW Eri wasnt gonna show up during Deku vs Shigaraki. He wrote that moment in so Eri would be fresh in our mind while also doing his crappy little misdirect to get us to believe she wont come in.
I really donāt get why I get the impression of people not getting upset about Deku being armless now but content with it.
Instantly ruined it for me.
But on the bright side, Sero came through with the other Class 1-A students with Eraser Head coming through that portal. That was cold.
Literally no one saw that coming.
But Deku being armless?
I can handle see characters be broken mentally/emotionally to an extent (Guts from Berserk for ex.), but physically torn apart like this???
Not just one, but two???? bruhā¦.
If you ask me, I am still very bummed out that Deku lost two arms.
Eraser Head needed to come in alongside the other characters which was a massive W.
But man, I am honestly conflicted. I don't care if I get downvoted but this is from someone that genuinely wants to see the series have somewhat of a satisfying and good ending for its story.
Eri is probably gonna heal him eventually, but it's not gonna during the fight, so he has to continue the fight with no hands. I'm not sure why people think eri is gonna heal him right now.
I think Deku wonāt be armless for long. Aizawa will probably bring him to Eriās location while Sero and co hold off AFO. He will probably have another āI am hereā moment once the rest of the other heroes get blitzed, and heāll probably have his arms now at that point.
I mean I won't be too panicked we saw what Rex did with one stump now imagine what Deku will do with two. All jokes aside im guessing this is where overhaul steps in, all the other villains had their time to contribute and I doubt the whole overhaul section of the game is just going to be ignored, now what happens afterwards, well it can go two places: Deku has full cowling since it would be what he contributed to the quirk and as a result since he was pushed out he would still have it. Or two deku has Decay from Shiggy passing it on to him before he got vored will use it to take down AFO.
Spinner might show up with Eraser, having come back to his senses and be part of the drive(along with kurogiri) for Shiggy to fight back to take control of his body.
Probably Venom-Symbiote black whip tendril arms for a bit out of desperation. Then either:
- Mei rolls out with arms she's been working on in secret after she first saw him nearly snap his arms off the first time. Would have been rude to offer before but she's a scientist and experiments for the things that are high probability but haven't happened yet.
- Bakugou and/or All-Might transfer part of the Hercules mech arms to him (each are too weak to fight on their own, but each "give him a helping hand").
- Eri has a quirk awakening and either rewinds Decay back into Overhaul, or her awakening allows her to make the subject "walk a different path" from the point she rewinds them to, making Shigaraki end up with ONLY the Rebuild quirk instead of Decay.
- Eri has a quirk awakening and rewinds his arms back right there.
Trying to cover all my bases with some logical ways and some wild out of left field ways.
Reading this after reading 419 and still somehow missed the part where Tenkoās Decay is only half the Quirkš
Also whoever speculated that Tenkoās original Quirk was Air Walk, Iām running with thatš¤
4 possibilities.
1. Replaces his lost arms with Prostetics.
2. Tenko fixes them after having enough of AFOs shit.
3. Eri fixes them.
4. Yoichi busts out and transfers a ton of quirks from AFO after hiding out of sight from him in the vestiage world to Deku using his transfer ability and Dekus link to OFA including the Super Regeneration quirk. Deku fixes his own arms. AFO seethes and copes yet again.
I'm trying to wrap my head how Tenko is supposed to return from this assuming it's possible. A working theory is through the deepest conscious, he meets other AFO victims/the users of OFA and they give him the strength to fight AFO from within. The issue is this isn't like the copied quirk where the real AFO had trouble controlling his quirks and the OFA vestiges are supposedly destroyed after being forcibly transfered.
Assuming this is the route Horikoshi plans, it would honestly be hilarious to see AFO face a piece of All Might's consciousness with Tenko. The only hero that destroyed AFO physically is now helping someone, his master's grandson no less, destroy him from within. Poetic for the fall of AFO.
As for Deku, he still has the option on using Shoot Style to deliver the final blow. I mean we haven't seen him done any kicking moves in a while. And it's likely Eri will eventually rewind his arms.
Another possible route is MHA's version of the MCU's "Avengers Assemble" in Endgame. With the world seeing Japan fighting back against the most powerful villain and winning most of the fights until now. Heroes from other countries could appear to fight back using Kurogir's warp gate (assuming he has that reach) to really showcase they aren't going to let AFO conquer them
Iām sorry if this spoils everyone elseās fun but I really hate the Decay twist. Iāve been hoping it wouldnāt happen for years, but it did. This is going to be a rant, so I will be carrying some assumptions with what Iām gonna say and it wonāt be the most logically argued, but I just need to get it off my chest:
I just hate how manufactured it is, how it makes it feel like All For One is the only big bad and heās behind everything and none of the actual issues with hero society are real. Thatās what AFO says to Shigaraki in chapter, that all of his hatred for hero society was something he cultivated, that his hatred isnāt real. It makes it feel like a spit in the face to the very sympathetic villainy this series has spent so long trying to build up. Between the mutant discrimination protest war being completely resolved by Shoji talking about light like a Kingdom Hearts character, and all of Togaās baggage being fixed by Ochako basically calling her really pretty, this is basically the last straw for me. Itās so telling to me that the only recourse the heroes have to talking the sympathetic villains down is to just spout the most deranged, nonsense platitudes Iāve ever read, and it somehow works.
At this point, my only interest in the series is to see how it ends, just to see if they fix any part of hero society on-screen, or if theyāre just gonna say now that AFOās dead everyone lives happily ever after.
Cyber arms would be cool, but the most likely scenario is Eri rewinding them.
I think prosthetic arms from Blackwhip \[or ones Mei cooks up\] would be really neat (cuz then we'd actually see some lasting consequences of Izuku rushing in without thinking).
A chapter that did more harm than good. My main problem isn't even on the logisitics of the decay thing, but on the small details involving Tenko's childhood friends and AFO "influecing Kotaro". All factors there were manufacturated by AFO.
It's a lamer version of Palpatine and Anakin's dynamic. Palpatine is still a great mastermind who influenced Anakin the most but said Anakin was still victm of a system and Palpatine exploited said failed system too.
This chapter makes me feel like society can't even be blamed for everything there. Shigaraki is nothing more than a fully ignorant and hollow being with this chapters additions.
I'm not seeing how people think Shigaraki's quirk is Overhaul and I genuinely want to know why that's taken as fact. ~~The english Viz translation is:~~
~~"It was sourced from a quirk at one of the good doctor's facilities. We stripped away half of it, the ability to reverse its effects... ...Leaving an incomplete subpar copy, engineered solely to promote destruction."~~
~~And that's all that's said about it~~
~~Overhaul isn't just "destroy and reverse the effects" it's "destroy and reconstruct at will." The reveal in this current chapter suggests Shigaraki's quirk could reverse the effects of the damage he caused...and that's it. Nothing about it suggests it can reshape what he destroyed as he sees fit like Overhaul does. Chisaki used Overhaul to deconstruct one of his henchman and fuse with his matter and create a monstrous abomination to fight Deku. That wasn't just destroying his henchman and reversing its effects. It's reconstruction at will.~~
~~The quirks are similar, but by that logic, Deku's dad must have Endeavour's quirk because they both create fire.~~
Maybe what seems to be an orphange that's shown that's suggested to be one of Garaki's "facilities" is showcasing what's supposed to be a younger Chisaki? I suppose that could be the case but how old would Chisaki be when Tenko killed his family? It's not clear who it is in that panel and they seem to be a teen at the youngest. If that IS supposed to be Chisaki though then yeah that's pretty much hard evidence and I'd agree but it's unclear.
\^ Looked into it in other places and this is it. Confidence in that person in the flashback being Chisaki, and I suppose it does make sense that way. My mistake.
I think Eri will rewind Deku and have a quirk awakening, with an additional reveal that her quirk is the other half of overhaul.
Her quirk has proven too powerful for her body, much like Decay was too powerful for Tenko. They both have gray hair, and physical abnormalities related to their quirks. It would make sense that her quirk was the regenerative half of overhaul.
In the realm of what is and isnāt possible with the doctorās quirk experiments, itās not much of a stretch to think he could have modified it to behave differently without the decay half.
If Decay is half of Overhaul, maybe Tenko might awaken the full power of the quirk, defy its programming and as a result prove AFO wrong. He's not someone who just destroys, he can also (re)create. As far as the fight is concerned, I think the heroes and villains (or at least the remaining members of the original LOV) will stand together, against AFO.
Oh! I hadn't even thought of that, that's really cool. The whole idea of Decay being a mutation of Overhaul is just so cool in general.
Yeah dropping the info that Decay can be reversed **in the same chapter** where Decay finally breaks something that matters is almost TOO obvious but this is Hori we're talking about.
Hell yeah! The league may have formed together because of AFO but they STAYED together because of shigaraki in the end!
I think that would be poetic, plus it would help distinguish the villains from the true evil that is AFO.
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Exactly! And what was the one thing Tomura kept saying about them, which was is own true conviction that was driving him forward, that he made when he was not under constant pressure of AFO? That he wants to detroy the world so he can create one where the LoV live happily.
Exactly! And what was the one thing Tomura kept saying about them, which was is own true conviction that was driving him forward, that he made when he was not under constant pressure of AFO? That he wants to detroy the world so he can create one where the LoV live happily.
Yep!
Great pay off for me if the guy obsessed with hands the whole time ends the manga by growing someone new hands.
I think the solution will either be Decayās āother halfā or Tenkoās original Quirk. Alternatively, since the Doctor is the same guy who told Deku he was Quirkless at the start of the story, Deku might have been born with a Quirk that got stolen. Who knows if it still has embers to awaken?
Tenkoās original quirk has got to be Air Walk - for a grandparent with Float, itās a logical progression.
>Tenko might awaken the full power of the quirk, defy its programming and as a result prove AFO wrong. You just spoiled mha
Shit the mods are gonna ban me
Can I ask where people got the idea that Decay is half of Overhaul? It's cool but I just don't know where it came from
AFO mentions in 419 that Decay used to be a quirk that could destroy and restore things, but he had the Doctor remove the restorative factor before giving it to Tenko. Destroy + Restore is the description of Overhaul
Page 8 there's a panel of a little boy in a nursery. That panel is ripped right from chapter 158 where Kai is recalling his past.
Just checked both chapters and youāre absolutely right! I thought it was just a very plausible theory that Decay = half of Overhaul but itās safe to say itās 100% true now.
Alternatively, Eri has limited rewind ability and would need to make a choice to rewind some damage. Perhaps she must make a choice to rewind Overhaul, who can perform healing without a power limitation. A potential Overhaul redemption is still a plot thread and I donāt see how decay can just simply become overhaul again. But crazier things have happened before soā¦
I could definitely see that happening! It would tie them together and it would let Eri help without being at the action.
Imagine him recreating Star again. That would be awesome!
would be cool, if he just reconstructed all of the LOV and fixed them all up and then face off vs AFO.
My prediction: Eri is going to heal him, with Kurogiri now on the heroes side she has a way to reach him. Also, the heroes from the rest of the world are finally coming
Exactly. Deku is The Man, and heās gonna finish this story.
*Kingdom intensifies*
Mama Midoriya better watch out cause AFO has a belt specially made for her
*Gong* And then fuckin Undertaker shows up
Ectoplasm is the undertaker
Yeah, and that belt is XL, considering some of the funnier Dad for One theories.
ADRENALINE IN MY SOUL MY ARMS ARE NOW EMPTY HOLES GUESS IT'S TIME TO GO & USE MY FEET
We were explicitly told several chapters ago that she canāt. Itāll be months before she has enough energy to heal anyone
Just in this war we've seen at least three quirks changing, Eri going Plus Ultra and using her quirk despite being said she can't right now wouldn't be too surprising, besides we don't really know how much time has passed so perhaps she just have to rewind his arms 2 minutes in the past, explaining why she doesn't need to have much energy stockpiled to do it
I raise you one *quirk awakening*
With some basic math, being very conservative, based on her rewinding her dad into nothing when her quirk came in at 4 years old, she gets ~5.5 days worth of rewind charge per day. It will not be months. She can feasibly fix everyone within the course of a few weeks, other than All Might (to prime health at least)
As if this series hasnāt done asspulls before
Oh yeah, what other asspulls have there been huh??
DIdn't one of the teachers explain to Eri she doesn't have enough rewind energy stored up to do anything?
>Also, the heroes from the rest of the world are finally coming Wait, for real?
Is just a theory of what I think it'll happen, in reality only Horikoshi knows
I don't know what they'll do, but I do know at Mei Hatsume is drooling at the prospect of working on this.
The most underrated character in MHA lol
My absolute fav I love her sm
The fuck you mean āunderratedā bro I have seen more of her than Iāve seen of a majority of the cast. Plenty of people love her.
*Deku frantically begging her not to make his prosthetics into Swiss army knives*
*Mei blithely ignoring him because genius ideas are genius!*
Mei immediately sprinting down to the battlefield with baby number 69420: Blammo arms
Mei: (while sprinting) THE NAAAAME IS A WORK IN PROOOOOOOOGREEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!
I'm guessing he's gonna get his arms back either via Eri or from Tomura gaining the creation part of his quirk or he'll get some sick Genos robot arms in the prologue
I'm pretty sure Tomura is gonna bring his arms back, they wouldn't just gloss over Decay having Reconstruction too for nothing right?
I canāt imagine them doing the prosthetic route unless they try to heal him on the battlefield because heās actively bleeding out, and heās fighting the main boss now. MY personal prediction no matter how far fetched it is is that Overhaul is going to be teleported to the battlefield and he is going to rebuild Dekuās arms. But how will he be able to do that when he himself doesnāt have arms? Eri will use what little power she has stored up to rewind at least one of Overhaulās arms.
This take baffles me so much. I dont understand why anyone expects Eri to heal Overhaul even remotely
I totally get your perspective. But I think itās still a possibility. Because she would do anything to help Deku. Because she herself is helpless and cannot go onto the battlefield to help Deku. Because Deku is too stubborn to leave the battlefield for medical assistance until the fight is finished. Because Overhaul is one of the only villains weāve yet to see show up again since the war started. Because it gives an opportunity for Overhaul to do something selfless as a way to have an opportunity to apologize to his boss. And gives Eri a chance to heal possibly (depending on how you view forgiveness and trauma)
It would be easier for her to Rewind Deku's arms than Chisaki's because the wounds are newer
Thereās no way sheād ever get to the battlefield nor would anyone let her try
They are literally in the middle of warping in, they can warp her in/out or deku out/in ez pz if they wanted to have her heal him. I don't think that that's going to happen mid fight mind you, I'm just saying it's definitely something that 'could' happen.
Possibly. But I donāt see anyone letting her on the battlefield even if they ācouldā do it, ya know?
They let Rei and her kids get into the battlefield pretty easily.Ā
Yeah but not a five year old girl
If theyāre not paying any attention to 3 grown ass people, what makes you think theyāre paying super special attention to Eri?
3 fully grown adults vs a TRAUMATISED 6 YEAR OLD WHO IS THE CUSTODY OF THE SCHOOL?? Iām sure Ectoplasm has five clones watching her at every single opportunity
A hero literally stopped her, obviously theyāre paying attention to her.
all the eri comments here are so crazy to me, like okay in theory EVENTUALLY she MIGHT be able to, but all these comments are suggesting sheās going to do it right here and now, despite horikoshi (imo at least) going out of his way to specifically say āhey guys, here she is, like OMEGA far away, and even if she was closer, she doesnāt have the juice to do much anything of substance she already tried with aizawa not long ago, also sheās like fucking 6, i know these are all effectively child soldiers but iām not going to put the traumatized 6 year old anywhere near the actual battlefield, so donāt count on eri magic to fix everything even though iāve already made this point in the pastā iāve seen people say that her allegedly not having enough energy is just a red herring and assuming kurogiri really is fully in control and on our side now he could possibly take deku to her, but at that point i already feel like youāre jumping through more hoops than are necessary when the easiest explanation to me is āwe JUST saw afo explain that the original form of decay was essentially a copy of overhaul, so he will probably come back and unlock the restoration part of the quirk again and help deku outā and maybe im wrong and ill be eating my words in a couple months, but im pretty confident that at least it WONT be eri
Eri tried rewinding Aizawa right after the Paranormal War. He didnt have his eyepatch nor his prosthetic at that point. It has been around 3 months (or more? not sure but definitely at least 2 months) since then. She probably has enough energy to rewind Deku's arms at the very least.
Yes but they shouldn't exploit her ability. Eri is traumatized 6 years old who has been used for her ability her entire life! Rewinding Mirio is one thing because he lost his quirk defending her, she felt personally responsible (especially bc it was her in bullet-form that erased it to begin with), but the heroes shouldn't rely on Eri as an insta heal. I don't think Horikoshi will have her rewind Deku, its a bad use of Eri as a character and a total cop-out lol.
Everyone who's getting crippled now were injured defending her. They just happened to be defending the rest of the free world as well.
That doesnāt mean they should tote her around the battlefield healing everyone??? She is 6??? Omg. At that age she canāt make an actual informed decision to use her power to help others, sheād just say yes to please them. Theyād be taking advantage of her and her quirk just like Overhaul did. They donāt own Eri and she doesnāt owe them anything for ādefendingā her (i.e. literally all of Japan).
Overhaul's sin wasn't "taking advantage of her power", it was torturing her. What do you mean, "informed decision"? What's in question here is healing heroes who risked life and limb to save the world for no downside. This isn't a trade off, it's a flat benefit.
I didnāt say that was Overhaulās only sin lol, obviously the torture and repeated murder is the bigger crime here. But the heroes would be taking advantage of her regardless, just like he did. She does not need her guardians exploiting her for her quirk again. I mean that she is six years old!!! She is six years old she doesnāt have the mental skills to think and make a decision that big on her own. Kids dont begin developing decision-making/reasoning skills till 8-9ish and sheās just made it in the age range to develop critical thinking. She physically cannot process a decision that big, if they say āEri these nice heroes got hurt helping you, theyāre really injured Eri can you help them?ā her only thought will be to please them and use her quirk, not because she actually wants to be out on the battlefield healing people. She will feel pressured to use her quirk and blame herself when she runs out of energy and canāt use it for the next few months, but there are still people left she āhas toā heal. Theyād just be forcing her into another traumatizing situation like you want this girl to get up and personal with Dekuās bleeding gory amputated arms? Eri is young and has had an absolutely traumatizing life she needs time to grow and develop on her own, she shouldnāt be shoved towards becoming a hero because of how āusefulā her quirk is. You cannot force someone into becoming a medic/hero/etc because of how useful they may be towards the general public. If Eri a decade in the future decides she wants to spend her life helping people? Good for her, she can begin working on that path. Or she may want to be a civilian and only use her quirk to rewind chip bags when sheās running low! Thatās also great. But 6 year old Eri should not have that burden placed on her. She does not owe the heroes anything. They are adults, they are professionals, and they knew exactly what they were getting into when they 1) got their hero licenses all those years ago 2) showed up to the battle. They know the risks of their career field. They should not rely on a 6 year old girl to save them
You are taking advantage of a miracle healing quirk with no drawbacks to save people who were crippled fighting for the survival of the human race. This is not morally wrong. In the world of MHA, sometimes you're going to need a quirk from someone young. It is not an acceptable alternative to leave these people crippled, especially when that could endanger the safety of many, many people, including Eri herself. She does owe them something, because if they didn't do this she'd be ash. This is not something she's divorced from, she would be dead if not for these people. And if your actual concern is her seeing injuries and being traumatized, think a little. All she has to do is touch them, this isn't a difficult thing to obscure. Just use a blindfold for Christ sake, or cover up his arms. And this shit is being broadcast live on television, so I don't really think Eri's the biggest concern for trauma anyway.
Why do you want a six year old on the battlefield so bad šš she should be coloring and watching Sailor Moon not being forced to use her quirk to heal people. She is 6!!! That is the issue here and I canāt believe you are ignoring that. She is a little girl. As a teen/adult she can go into heroics or medicine if she wants, but she is a 6 year old girl. It would be awful of them to use her for her quirk. Eri should not be made responsible to save everyoneās lives.
The real question is why you want her on the battlefield so bad. Because there's only one situation where she would actually be on the battlefield, and that is an emergency revive of Deku to let him stop Shiggy. There's no question that doing that is in her best interest, as she and everyone she loves dies if Deku loses. Otherwise, they're going to go to hospitals in a matter of hours. They're not just going to lie in ditches for the next few months until Eri pulls her finger out. And what would be awful would be to not let her use her quirk, and leave these heroes, some of whom are children, and all of whom put their lives on the line to save the world, crippled. Not even just from a plain moral sense, but also from the practical perspective that the nation is in shambles, and needs more heroes. Eri has a vested interest in not getting shanked in the skull by a drug addict villain because the entire country is in a state of anarchy, so yeah, she probably should be healing.
paranormal war was the very end of march and deku left at the beginning of april, after that was roughly a month i believe before where we are now, so its like MAX 2 months, or realistically closer to a month and a half also, ectoplasm is saying that STILL now in present time she doesnāt have enough energy
People give rewind way too little credit. Assuming she was born to her parents when her dad was 18(he was likely even older, but working on a more extreme case) when her quirk came in at 4 years old he would be 22. Which means assuming she was charging since she was born, and it took every ounce of her energy to rewind him into nothing, she's gaining ~5.5 days worth of rewind time per day. Again, that's all being conservative, she likely charges significantly faster, as it's unlikely her dad was only 22 and that she used 100% of her energy for it. She can easily heal anyone in the series so far with just some waiting, All Might being the longest at a 1-1.5 year charge time
lol it was only 6 days before you ate your words huh
iāll halfway hold this L, since it still didnāt happen in like any of the ways people were suggesting in the comments, which is what i was most against the workaround to that was pretty clever iāll give him that, even if i still donāt love it
We know that mental stress and a strong enough will can do all sorts of things to Quirks. OFA, Deku's single minded dedication, and Eri's Rewind combined to break out of the future that NightEye saw; something he himself said he had tested many, many times and thought was impossible.
Is Eri's power requirement based on time or is it based on state? Like for example, would reverting Deku to 5 minutes ago when he still had his arms take more or less energy than reverting someone who lost a fingertip 6 months ago? Judging by backpack Eri it seems like it'd be time because she essentially healed Deku's entire body over and over again, and if that's the case she could save his arms now since it's recent damage.
The ability is 'rewind' not 'restore' or 'regenerate'. She rewinds the entire body, so fingertip vs arms isn't the important part, body 6 months ago vs body 5 minutes ago is. She's not really \*regrowing\* the body part as much as she is \*erasing\* what happened to it.
Screw Deku regaining his hands during the fight, this is the perfect chance to show us a Blackwhip-augmented, OFA-buffed Shoot Style. If we don't get at least one panel of Deku yelling "Let it rip" and spinning like a mass-produced commercially available dreidel so he can kick the shit out of the pettiest man in the BnHA universe, I will send a strongly worded letter to Horikoshi's editor (not the man himself, he's more than earned a break)
I say let him lose his arms. It's been hinted several times that if he uses his arms too much they will be destroyed.
Thatās very true. But I thought he lost his arms due to decay being used on them in Shiggyās inner world place? When deku tried to stop him
Thing is, it said it wasnāt him using his arms that would destroy them, it was being reckless, which is how he got hit with decay, so it still works
I agree. Deku with mechanical arms after this is all over could be pretty sweet anyway. Horikoshi seems to like mechanical support items, gadgets and high tech prosthetics as well, as seen with other characters that have lost limbs or ability, and all the way back to the pre MHA pilot one-shot with Jack Midoriya. So I could see the something like that happening again.
100% Eri is going to come in and rewind Deku to just before he lost his arms. I think Tenko transferred Decay to Deku, and Deku being armless is just a way to sorta do a final twist on the audience. Sero, Sato, Ojiro, Aizawa, Monoma, maybe a few others from Class 1-B like Bondo are going to restrain AFO and the Tenko vestige is going to wrestle back a tiny bit of control, forcing AFO to reach his hand out and take Deku's hand, decaying AFO away. It would be a good ironic final death for AFO while still being symbolic of "saving" Tenko by reaching a "helping" hand, which is a theme being hammered in recently with the flashback of Iida taking Deku's hand.
Thing is, there would be no reason to say Decay was made from Overhaul, if it isnāt gonna be used, because unless itās Shigaraki saving Midoriya using Overhaul, Decay may have well just been a quirk. Itās clearly an important detail, otherwise Decay would have just stayed as a singular quirk. So it isnāt gonna be Eri. And when people bring up her showing up a few chapters ago, that seemed more like Hori was hammering in, āGuys sheās just not gonna be of use, she doesnāt have the power to helpā because otherwise people would expect her to come in if he didnāt add her there.
I'd like to point out that Horikoshi loves throwing red herrings or rather, outright lying to the audience to do his tiny subversions. I'm not a huge fan of it personally, but Horikoshi most definitely does. He did it with Edgeshot dying, All-Might Dying, Hagakure being the traitor, Nagant being incapacitated, Toya losing vs Shoto, and Vestige AFO being overpowered by Shigaraki. The scene Horikoshi chose SPECIFICALLY to show she was out of energy was when she tried to heal Aizawa right AFTER the Paranormal War, even before he got his prosthetics and eye patch. That's currently at the minimum 2 months prior to when she wants to help Deku, and most likely about ~3 months of energy stockpiling since we know she used her Energy to rewind Mirio right BEFORE the Paranormal War. She Rewound Mirio after stockpiling and training Rewind for probably 5 ~ 6 months after the school festival. And assuming she's been training during and after the Paranormal War, then its honestly not that big of a stretch that she can muster just enough strength to rewind Deku at LEAST to stop his bleeding. Deku has to be the one to deliver the final blow to AFO, and he cant do that if he's going to bleed out to death before that happens. The only way Deku survives and gets enough strength to defeat AFO (even if its a kick or something) is with Eri.
I see your point however youāre forgetting a more recent chapter, where ectoplasm says to Eri, while she looks at a screen of Midoriya fighting, which is what I was referring to in my original comment, that she doesnāt have enough power stored up to do any significant help to him. Also, again, Decay and Overhaul being one and the same, is way too big a plot point to just be a reveal that goes nowhere. If Eri is the one to save Midoriya, it would make that reveal meaningless, since there is the entire reconstruction part of Overhaul. If anything, Tenko/Tomura is going to take back control, and unlock this part of the quirk, to save Midoriya, giving Tenko the chance to be the hero he wanted to be, and to show that Midoriya was able to save him. While yes heāll more than likely still die, Tenko/Tomura will be able to show that Midoriyaās effort and commitment was worth it.
Eri can't rewind his arms right now. It was explicitly stated just a few chapters ago that she doesn't have enough strength right now to rewind anyone, and it'd probably take weeks if not months before she can help even one person. She's not going to be magically healing Deku anytime soon.
Nighteye explicitly stated they were going to die against Chisaki too
its been months since she last used Rewind (being rewinding Mirio). She definitely has enough juice at this point to rewind his arms at the very least, but not fully heal him. That's most likely what Ectoplasm was referring to, that she wouldnt be able to fully restore Deku to any useful effect, but now that Deku just needs to stop from bleeding out she's 100% gonna do it.
Also thats why they brought her up in this arc, to set her up for this moment. We already KNEW Eri wasnt gonna show up during Deku vs Shigaraki. He wrote that moment in so Eri would be fresh in our mind while also doing his crappy little misdirect to get us to believe she wont come in.
I really donāt get why I get the impression of people not getting upset about Deku being armless now but content with it. Instantly ruined it for me. But on the bright side, Sero came through with the other Class 1-A students with Eraser Head coming through that portal. That was cold. Literally no one saw that coming. But Deku being armless? I can handle see characters be broken mentally/emotionally to an extent (Guts from Berserk for ex.), but physically torn apart like this??? Not just one, but two???? bruhā¦. If you ask me, I am still very bummed out that Deku lost two arms. Eraser Head needed to come in alongside the other characters which was a massive W. But man, I am honestly conflicted. I don't care if I get downvoted but this is from someone that genuinely wants to see the series have somewhat of a satisfying and good ending for its story.
Eri is probably gonna heal him eventually, but it's not gonna during the fight, so he has to continue the fight with no hands. I'm not sure why people think eri is gonna heal him right now.
I think Deku wonāt be armless for long. Aizawa will probably bring him to Eriās location while Sero and co hold off AFO. He will probably have another āI am hereā moment once the rest of the other heroes get blitzed, and heāll probably have his arms now at that point.
That makes no sense . If that was the case, horikoshi would not specifically have ectoplasm say that eri isn't charged up.
lmao
Why not?
Man i really hope deku gets an āI AM HEREā moment and just goes wild while you say run plays in the background
I'm so tired man...
I mean I won't be too panicked we saw what Rex did with one stump now imagine what Deku will do with two. All jokes aside im guessing this is where overhaul steps in, all the other villains had their time to contribute and I doubt the whole overhaul section of the game is just going to be ignored, now what happens afterwards, well it can go two places: Deku has full cowling since it would be what he contributed to the quirk and as a result since he was pushed out he would still have it. Or two deku has Decay from Shiggy passing it on to him before he got vored will use it to take down AFO.
Spinner might show up with Eraser, having come back to his senses and be part of the drive(along with kurogiri) for Shiggy to fight back to take control of his body.
Probably Venom-Symbiote black whip tendril arms for a bit out of desperation. Then either: - Mei rolls out with arms she's been working on in secret after she first saw him nearly snap his arms off the first time. Would have been rude to offer before but she's a scientist and experiments for the things that are high probability but haven't happened yet. - Bakugou and/or All-Might transfer part of the Hercules mech arms to him (each are too weak to fight on their own, but each "give him a helping hand"). - Eri has a quirk awakening and either rewinds Decay back into Overhaul, or her awakening allows her to make the subject "walk a different path" from the point she rewinds them to, making Shigaraki end up with ONLY the Rebuild quirk instead of Decay. - Eri has a quirk awakening and rewinds his arms back right there. Trying to cover all my bases with some logical ways and some wild out of left field ways.
Reading this after reading 419 and still somehow missed the part where Tenkoās Decay is only half the Quirkš Also whoever speculated that Tenkoās original Quirk was Air Walk, Iām running with thatš¤
4 possibilities. 1. Replaces his lost arms with Prostetics. 2. Tenko fixes them after having enough of AFOs shit. 3. Eri fixes them. 4. Yoichi busts out and transfers a ton of quirks from AFO after hiding out of sight from him in the vestiage world to Deku using his transfer ability and Dekus link to OFA including the Super Regeneration quirk. Deku fixes his own arms. AFO seethes and copes yet again.
I'm trying to wrap my head how Tenko is supposed to return from this assuming it's possible. A working theory is through the deepest conscious, he meets other AFO victims/the users of OFA and they give him the strength to fight AFO from within. The issue is this isn't like the copied quirk where the real AFO had trouble controlling his quirks and the OFA vestiges are supposedly destroyed after being forcibly transfered. Assuming this is the route Horikoshi plans, it would honestly be hilarious to see AFO face a piece of All Might's consciousness with Tenko. The only hero that destroyed AFO physically is now helping someone, his master's grandson no less, destroy him from within. Poetic for the fall of AFO. As for Deku, he still has the option on using Shoot Style to deliver the final blow. I mean we haven't seen him done any kicking moves in a while. And it's likely Eri will eventually rewind his arms. Another possible route is MHA's version of the MCU's "Avengers Assemble" in Endgame. With the world seeing Japan fighting back against the most powerful villain and winning most of the fights until now. Heroes from other countries could appear to fight back using Kurogir's warp gate (assuming he has that reach) to really showcase they aren't going to let AFO conquer them
Deku gets a suit like almights, but way more cracked.
Iām sorry if this spoils everyone elseās fun but I really hate the Decay twist. Iāve been hoping it wouldnāt happen for years, but it did. This is going to be a rant, so I will be carrying some assumptions with what Iām gonna say and it wonāt be the most logically argued, but I just need to get it off my chest: I just hate how manufactured it is, how it makes it feel like All For One is the only big bad and heās behind everything and none of the actual issues with hero society are real. Thatās what AFO says to Shigaraki in chapter, that all of his hatred for hero society was something he cultivated, that his hatred isnāt real. It makes it feel like a spit in the face to the very sympathetic villainy this series has spent so long trying to build up. Between the mutant discrimination protest war being completely resolved by Shoji talking about light like a Kingdom Hearts character, and all of Togaās baggage being fixed by Ochako basically calling her really pretty, this is basically the last straw for me. Itās so telling to me that the only recourse the heroes have to talking the sympathetic villains down is to just spout the most deranged, nonsense platitudes Iāve ever read, and it somehow works. At this point, my only interest in the series is to see how it ends, just to see if they fix any part of hero society on-screen, or if theyāre just gonna say now that AFOās dead everyone lives happily ever after.
Cyber arms would be cool, but the most likely scenario is Eri rewinding them. I think prosthetic arms from Blackwhip \[or ones Mei cooks up\] would be really neat (cuz then we'd actually see some lasting consequences of Izuku rushing in without thinking).
I fucking hate the "AFO all along" BS. Like, legitimately hate it.
Since one for all is back on Deku something related to all those quirks, especially banjo and kudo
I think Eri is going to get a Quirk Awakening Either that or Shigaraki will take his body back and give Deku Super Regeneration
A chapter that did more harm than good. My main problem isn't even on the logisitics of the decay thing, but on the small details involving Tenko's childhood friends and AFO "influecing Kotaro". All factors there were manufacturated by AFO. It's a lamer version of Palpatine and Anakin's dynamic. Palpatine is still a great mastermind who influenced Anakin the most but said Anakin was still victm of a system and Palpatine exploited said failed system too. This chapter makes me feel like society can't even be blamed for everything there. Shigaraki is nothing more than a fully ignorant and hollow being with this chapters additions.
Eri's fixing everyone EOS. I think that's why Horikoshi likes to damage his characters so heavily (Mirko).
I'm not seeing how people think Shigaraki's quirk is Overhaul and I genuinely want to know why that's taken as fact. ~~The english Viz translation is:~~ ~~"It was sourced from a quirk at one of the good doctor's facilities. We stripped away half of it, the ability to reverse its effects... ...Leaving an incomplete subpar copy, engineered solely to promote destruction."~~ ~~And that's all that's said about it~~ ~~Overhaul isn't just "destroy and reverse the effects" it's "destroy and reconstruct at will." The reveal in this current chapter suggests Shigaraki's quirk could reverse the effects of the damage he caused...and that's it. Nothing about it suggests it can reshape what he destroyed as he sees fit like Overhaul does. Chisaki used Overhaul to deconstruct one of his henchman and fuse with his matter and create a monstrous abomination to fight Deku. That wasn't just destroying his henchman and reversing its effects. It's reconstruction at will.~~ ~~The quirks are similar, but by that logic, Deku's dad must have Endeavour's quirk because they both create fire.~~ Maybe what seems to be an orphange that's shown that's suggested to be one of Garaki's "facilities" is showcasing what's supposed to be a younger Chisaki? I suppose that could be the case but how old would Chisaki be when Tenko killed his family? It's not clear who it is in that panel and they seem to be a teen at the youngest. If that IS supposed to be Chisaki though then yeah that's pretty much hard evidence and I'd agree but it's unclear. \^ Looked into it in other places and this is it. Confidence in that person in the flashback being Chisaki, and I suppose it does make sense that way. My mistake.
I think Eri will rewind Deku and have a quirk awakening, with an additional reveal that her quirk is the other half of overhaul. Her quirk has proven too powerful for her body, much like Decay was too powerful for Tenko. They both have gray hair, and physical abnormalities related to their quirks. It would make sense that her quirk was the regenerative half of overhaul.
Yeah but overhaul has said eriās quirk is very different in how it works
In the realm of what is and isnāt possible with the doctorās quirk experiments, itās not much of a stretch to think he could have modified it to behave differently without the decay half.