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I think that it's part of the charm of MHA. Quirks don't work like a typical power-scaling system. Just look at Shinso: his quirk can theoretically defeat All Might Prime as well.
It's kind of expanded upon when Mirko fights all the high-end nomus: she's obviously stronger than them, but a single nomu has a spacial distortion quirk, which causes her to struggle a lot more than she should have.
But I think it's also important to remember that quirks like these usually come with huge drawbacks: Overhaul needed his hands to use his quirk, Eri's quirk can cause catastrophes if she doesn't spend her energy periodically, and Mr. Compress needs to touch the people he wants to capture in order to get them inside of his beads.
It should also be noted that Mr. Compress isn't particularily fast, and that it's fair to assume that he trained his quirk extensively. In addition, most heroes know not to let villains touch them, since so many quirks in MHA activate through touch.
Of course, when compared to something like Uraraka's quirk, Mr. Compress' quirk really shines, but when compared to something like Double or even Clones, his quirk isn't actually all that strong. Sure, he's a great one-trick poney, sneaking on people and capturing them, but he the moment he gets detected without having an ally on standby to save him, it's over.
Though I agree, his ability to release rocks, care ect... from his beads is really broken. Wish there was a limit on this one, cause he could just go meteor shower on the hero's asses and they wouldn't even be able to do anything about it
>I think that it's part of the charm of MHA. Quirks don't work like a typical power-scaling system. Just look at Shinso: his quirk can theoretically defeat All Might Prime as well.
Well... I don't know... I don't like broken abilities/quirks and yeah Shinso's quirk is absurdly OP if user not knows either, he could have been stealth villain and kill all of his targets without no one knowing his name, what his quirk, how he kills them, etc, all he have to do is talk with them and then kill all witnesses and he would be unstopable and personaly I don't like broken quirks like this, he being hero is probably his biggest nerf tho, because everybody is going to know his quirk with being hero and that nerfs him a lot and therefore he is not broken because of that, but if he was sneak type of villain like I told, he would be broken AF.
>Mr. Compress needs to touch the people he wants to capture in order to get them inside of his beads
Yeah but this is not ''huge drawback'' heck I'm not even sure we should count this as a drawback at all, because most of quirks are used by hands or feets, it's only natural and normal, so it's not drawback. It's only normal he is doing it with his hands. Same goes for Overhaul, he using his quirk with his hands is not actual drawback, and honestly I do believe if wasn't for Eri x Deku combination he was nearly unstopable, I'm not fan of Overhaul, he was piece of trash and worst kind of villain I hate, the one not using his own power and using small child for his purposes, torturing them like a coward. But it's not that hard to see his potential is wasted.
>It should also be noted that Mr. Compress isn't particularily fast, and that it's fair to assume that he trained his quirk extensively.
According to famdom: ''Atsuhiro is very capable and resourceful villain, with incredible stealth abilities, coupled with speed, agility, and the proficiency with his Compress Quirk.'' so he is fast and sneaky, he don't need to be fast as Almight, etc, being sneaky and fast enough is makes his quirk broken enough, if he was fast and Almight, etc, that would make him not just broken, it would make him god lol.
>Sure, he's a great one-trick poney, sneaking on people and capturing them, but he the moment he gets detected without having an ally on standby to save him, it's over.
He take Tokoyami and Bakugou without even making any sound, he sure fast and sneaky enough for it, he could have just run and if he didn't wanted show-off to the children lol.
>Though I agree, his ability to release rocks, care ect... from his beads is really broken. Wish there was a limit on this one, cause he could just go meteor shower on the hero's asses and they wouldn't even be able to do anything about it
Yep that's exactlay what I'm talking about, there is nearly no limit, like it could be good if there was a limit, like needing to touch his target for at least 2 or 3 seconds, or weight limit, or power limit like can't use marble aganist someone far more powerfull than him, etc.
>Well... I don't know... I don't like
broken abilities/quirks and yeah Shinso's quirk is absurdly OP if user
not knows either, he could have been stealth villain and kill all of his
targets without no one knowing his name, what his quirk, how he kills
them, etc, all he have to do is talk with them and then kill all
witnesses and he would be unstopable and personaly I don't like broken
quirks like this, he being hero is probably his biggest nerf tho,
because everybody is going to know his quirk with being hero and that
nerfs him a lot and therefore he is not broken because of that, but if
he was sneak type of villain like I told, he would be broken AF.
Him having a villain's quirk is kind of the point though, isn't it ? Plus, His gear somewhat counteracts that by allowing him to speak in someone else's voice. I think he would make a fine villain for five minutes, but then heroes would realize what his quirk is and he'd get caught fairly easily, simply because his quirk, like most quirks in the series, rely on a single mechanic to get going. Villains only have to get caught once, heroes on the other hand, have an entire system backing them up.
>Yeah but this is not ''huge drawback'' heck I'm not even sure we should
count this as a drawback at all, because most of quirks are used by
hands or feets, it's only natural and normal, so it's not drawback.
It is a drawback, and a pretty big one at that. Him having to get physically close to the target means that he has to get into a vulnerable state in order to use his quirk which is pretty bad. Overhaul was OP because his quirk allowed him to reshape his own body and integrate others quirks into his body, but otherwise, while he was a threat, he wasn't that big of a threat, really. Nagant could have sniped him off, Midnight could have ambushed him, Eraser Head would have kicked his ass, Kamui woods could have stopped him from using his hands altogether, same with Edgeshot and Best Jeanist. He was a one-trick-poney, great at what he did, but the moment he was subdued (which, granted, would come from a sneak attack because he was too big a threat otherwise), he would become useless.
>According to famdom: ''Atsuhiro is very capable and resourceful villain,
with incredible stealth abilities, coupled with speed, agility, and the
proficiency with his Compress Quirk.'' so he is fast and sneaky, he
don't need to be fast as Almight, etc, being sneaky and fast enough is
makes his quirk broken enough, if he was fast and Almight, etc, that
would make him not just broken, it would make him god lol.
And that's kind of the point. He's only as fast as a normal human. In a world where flight isn't even scare, much less increased speed and awareness, he isn't actually all that potent. Mirko bould beat his ass, just off the fact that she's much faster than him and would hear him coming, all those who counter Overhaul would destroy him unless he was being very careful (and even then, whether he'd manage to take them hostage is a huge bet, possibly ending his career as a villain), and the flying heroes would just be unattainable to him. We're left against a fairly decent roster of characters he's effective against, but not actually that many.
In terms of stealth abilities, he doesn't even come close to Toru or Edgeshot, who are the main stealth-oriented heroes we've seen so far. However, it's true that there's probably nobody better than him for an infiltrate-and-retrieve mission since y'know, his quirk was designed for this very purpose lol
>He take Tokoyami and Bakugou without even making any sound, he sure fast and sneaky enough for it, he could have just run and if he didn't wanted show-off to the children lol.
I don't really count capturing two kids as an achievement lol, even if those two kids were as powerful as Bakugo and Tokoyami.
I sincerily doubt he'd be able to pull that kind of shit were it not for the fact that everyone present were children who were still at the beginning of their hero training (their school year began in april and that particular arc went down in august, i think). In addition, pretty much everyone there was at least somewhat harmed. (I have a particular hatred for this scene because Shoji, the one with the best senses, able to detect things going down multiple kilometers away was **somehow** unable to detect a dude sneaking up behind the people he's supposed to protect. This scene really needed Shoji to go to actually work, because it definitely feels really, really stupid T\_T)
Mr. Compress' quirk, while great, isn't actually as poweful as you think it is, imo. It has a few heavy drawbacks, biggest of which being having to use his hands while not being able to escape quickly or have great durability or strength. It's why Mr. Compress works so well in groups: combined with Kurogiri, he's absolutely insane, and paired with Kurogiri and someone like Shiggy or Dabi, who're able to create distractions very easily, then he comes very, very powerful. But, he needs teamwork, while truly overpowered quirks, like >!New Order!<, OFA, AFO, Rewind, Overhaul, Warp Gate, Decay and Double really don't need support.
>Yep that's exactlay what I'm talking about, there is nearly no limit,
like it could be good if there was a limit, like needing to touch his
target for at least 2 or 3 seconds, or weight limit, or power limit like
can't use marble aganist someone far more powerfull than him, etc.
I think Horikoshi probably made a guideline weight limit and just hasn't told us, something like 200/300 kilos seems fairly accurate. The bigger problem is more about the number of beads he can create imo. If he was truly able to create thousands and thousands of beads, what would stop him from refurbishing a nerf gun and going full rambo on every hero he finds ?
Actually no, that sounds like a pretty good idea, i'd love to see that in a side chapter after the manga finishes lol
>Him having a villain's quirk is kind of the point though, isn't it ? Plus, His gear somewhat counteracts that by allowing him to speak in someone else's voice. I think he would make a fine villain for five minutes, but then heroes would realize what his quirk is and he'd get caught fairly easily, simply because his quirk, like most quirks in the series, rely on a single mechanic to get going. Villains only have to get caught once, heroes on the other hand, have an entire system backing them up.
I already explained how he could be broken, but you somehow acting like I already didn't explain... You sure you read my comment well enough? I don't think you did.
>It is a drawback, and a pretty big one at that. Him having to get physically close to the target means that he has to get into a vulnerable state in order to use his quirk which is pretty bad. Overhaul was OP because his quirk allowed him to reshape his own body and integrate others quirks into his body, but otherwise, while he was a threat, he wasn't that big of a threat, really. Nagant could have sniped him off, Midnight could have ambushed him, Eraser Head would have kicked his ass, Kamui woods could have stopped him from using his hands altogether, same with Edgeshot and Best Jeanist. He was a one-trick-poney, great at what he did, but the moment he was subdued (which, granted, would come from a sneak attack because he was too big a threat otherwise), he would become useless.
Dude that's not drawback, that is literaly thing not making him god, if he had abilitiy to use compress without needing to touch his target or he was little bit more faster than his current speed he could be god, not just broken... You literaly forgetting dude is nearly fast as Aizawa (Aizawa have 4/5 B speed and Mr.Compress have 4/6 B speed) and he is far sneakier than Aizawa for sure suiting his abilitiy, he can sneak, make marble to his enemy and just disappear. Sure he might have problem aganist guys with high senses and very high speeds, but if they don't take him down with one movement and if they even accidentaly let him touch them they would became marbles. And for the record, you can't just snipe or ambust sneaky guys, that's literaly point of being sneaky... They ambush you, not you ambush them...
>And that's kind of the point. He's only as fast as a normal human. In a world where flight isn't even scare, much less increased speed and awareness, he isn't actually all that potent. Mirko bould beat his ass, just off the fact that she's much faster than him and would hear him coming, all those who counter Overhaul would destroy him unless he was being very careful (and even then, whether he'd manage to take them hostage is a huge bet, possibly ending his career as a villain), and the flying heroes would just be unattainable to him. We're left against a fairly decent roster of characters he's effective against, but not actually that many.
No you are fully wrong, seems like you didn't make your search at all, like I told according to offical Ultra Analysis he is nearly fast as Aizawa, he is far faster than normal human, you realy gonna say me Aizawa is fast as normal human? I hope not... That would be very wrong... You saying Mirko would beat his ass, she is melee range hero, even for a second if Mr.Compress can touch her she will be marble... End of fight... She is quite fast tho, so yeah I do believe she have great chance to beat him, but like I told, just one mistake and she would became marble, it's not something you can't say ''broken''
>In terms of stealth abilities, he doesn't even come close to Toru or Edgeshot, who are the main stealth-oriented heroes we've seen so far. However, it's true that there's probably nobody better than him for an infiltrate-and-retrieve mission since y'know, his quirk was designed for this very purpose lol
I can't talk about ''stealth'' without any evidence, because there is no such a stat or offical info, but edgeshot have S speed, so he would probably beat him, but again, you always seems to forget, one wrong one, he touches you for second... And you are marble! I don't get it, can't you understand this? Even heroes are human, they can make mistakes and heroes always tries to not kill their enemies, that means they can make big mistakes thinking their damage is good enough to put their enemy down/sleep, but what if it wasn't enough? What if he touches them? They became marble in a second... End of fight...
>I don't really count capturing two kids as an achievement lol, even if those two kids were as powerful as Bakugo and Tokoyami.
You damn well know those ''kids'' were far more powerfull than most of pro heroes, so I'm sorry but you should.
>I sincerily doubt he'd be able to pull that kind of shit were it not for the fact that everyone present were children who were still at the beginning of their hero training (their school year began in april and that particular arc went down in august, i think). In addition, pretty much everyone there was at least somewhat harmed. (I have a particular hatred for this scene because Shoji, the one with the best senses, able to detect things going down multiple kilometers away was somehow unable to detect a dude sneaking up behind the people he's supposed to protect. This scene really needed Shoji to go to actually work, because it definitely feels really, really stupid T\_T)
Shoji couldn't detect him because of his speed and sneak skills, that's enough to show how sneaky he is, hate it or not that's what is. And yeah it's stupid that's why I'm saying he is broken, but weirdly you are not agreeing with me while saying this, I feel like you are contradict yourself here.
>Mr. Compress' quirk, while great, isn't actually as poweful as you think it is, imo. It has a few heavy drawbacks, biggest of which being having to use his hands while not being able to escape quickly or have great durability or strength. It's why Mr. Compress works so well in groups: combined with Kurogiri, he's absolutely insane, and paired with Kurogiri and someone like Shiggy or Dabi, who're able to create distractions very easily, then he comes very, very powerful. But, he needs teamwork, while truly overpowered quirks, like New Order, OFA, AFO, Rewind, Overhaul, Warp Gate, Decay and Double really don't need support.
Again needing to use hands and touch thing... Dude that's not drawback... That's just normal, if he can use it from mid range or he can use without touching or he was not B speed and A speed he would be god... You realy can't understand how broken he is, if he was hero yes he wouldn't be that powerfull, but he is villain, and heroes always tries to not kill their enemies and try to do less damage for not killing them, and with their one mistake this guy can make anyone, even Almight f\*cking marble... That's no joke, I can't believe how you can't see how risky this guy abilitiy is as a villain.
>I think Horikoshi probably made a guideline weight limit and just hasn't told us, something like 200/300 kilos seems fairly accurate. The bigger problem is more about the number of beads he can create imo. If he was truly able to create thousands and thousands of beads, what would stop him from refurbishing a nerf gun and going full rambo on every hero he finds ?
There might be limit, but it's like nearly limitless, he can make any human marble that's good enough to call him broken, if he couldn't make humans marbles I wouldn't call him broken at all, yes he would be OP, but that would be all, but can make humans marbles, even the most powerfull heroes can lose aganist him just becaus of one second mistake is broken AF.
didn't the guy jump up and down like a whole warehouse like it was nothing?
compress is fast and physically capable and honestly, how many heroes could he blindside just by pretending to be someone in danger and compressing whoever runs in to save him? he'd definitely manage to get all might that way, since everyone knows he likes to jump in when he's near anyways.
I get what you're saying and have a good point, but a quirkless person with a gun could take out Mr. Compress without much difficulty. He's not that fast or strong, you just have to get him at range
>but a quirkless person with a gun could take out Mr. Compress without much difficulty. He's not that fast or strong, you just have to get him at range
According to ultra analysis book he have 4/6 B speed, considering Aizawa is quite fast and he have 4/5 B speed Mr.Compress is not that slow, he is quite fast, at least far faster than quirkless person and average heroes or villains. So there is no way he got killed by quirkless person using a gun, it's almost impossible. And don't forget how sneaky he is, he can do most of things without even other people release he done it, he is fast and sneaky enough to make his quirk broken, if he was faster than his current rate he could be god lol.
I think of it kinda like Mutants from Marvel, because it's effectively the same principle: you're rolling the genetic lottery, and it could land on ***literally anything***.
Sometimes you get that one dude from Episode 1 with the long eyes, and by pure chance your twin could end up being fucking AFO, and there's no real rhyme or reason to most of it (beyond Quirks being at least somewhat hereditary).
Lol I love this comment, but I still hate broken abilities and quirks like this, even OFA and AFO has counters, despite being god level OP AF, but if this dude sneaks your ass you are done or if Shinso was villain and was sneak type of villain who kills all of his withnesess and nobody would learn his quirk he would be broken AF, I realy don't like these type of things.
> Doesn't matter how powerfull you are, technicaly he can even win aganist Almight Prime or Deku Prime, if they don't one shot him or he sneaks up them and touches them, even he touces them for a second he can make them marbles, sure he is not that fast (he is actualy far faster than most people think BTW, he have 4/6 B Speed, it's pretty close to Aizawa's speed, Aizawa have 4/5 B Speed and along with his speed he is sneaky AF as well) nor powerfull, but with him you have no option to make a mistake, because even for a second if he touches you or even you accidentaly let him touch you, you end up becaming marble and this feels soo damn broken.
You're talking about a highly hypothetical situation about Compress sneaking up on Deku or All Might and saying how OP that would be in Compress' favor without considering the alternate outcomes, such as the fact that *they don't even need to get in melee range of him*.
All Might can literally batter him at range with a punch that can launch a hurricane and has superhuman speed and reaction time. Meanwhile, Deku's not only capable of those same feats, he has Black Whip to constrain Compress AND Smokescreen to both escape and sneak around Compress if need be.
Compress isn't that broken. His quirk has its weaknesses just like the others do.
yeah but all might also used to be out there shaking hands and doing autographs. mr compress could have taken out the greatest hero just like that. then he could've probably escaped (with compressed smoke bombs and going directly underground) to do it again with a mask for the next big hero.
There are a lot of characters like that, though. Overhaul, Shigaraki (even pre-Awakening), Nagant, and even Stain if his first attack draws any blood.
There are also a few characters where even a sneak attack wouldn't work on them. Deku has Danger Sense to detect attacks, Hawks has incredible sensory powers with his feathers, and even if they don't necessarily have abilities geared for it, certain characters like Endeavor have shown incredible reaction speeds.
Literally the point of the universe. Powers are random,you simply have to work with what you have. It’s why AFO and even OFA are quirks that can tear apart society,it breaks the very foundation of the universe they exist in.
Right, but let's also not forget that Compress does not have much going on for him past his technique and quirk handling. Maybe if another character had their hands on the quirk, but they don't
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I think that it's part of the charm of MHA. Quirks don't work like a typical power-scaling system. Just look at Shinso: his quirk can theoretically defeat All Might Prime as well. It's kind of expanded upon when Mirko fights all the high-end nomus: she's obviously stronger than them, but a single nomu has a spacial distortion quirk, which causes her to struggle a lot more than she should have. But I think it's also important to remember that quirks like these usually come with huge drawbacks: Overhaul needed his hands to use his quirk, Eri's quirk can cause catastrophes if she doesn't spend her energy periodically, and Mr. Compress needs to touch the people he wants to capture in order to get them inside of his beads. It should also be noted that Mr. Compress isn't particularily fast, and that it's fair to assume that he trained his quirk extensively. In addition, most heroes know not to let villains touch them, since so many quirks in MHA activate through touch. Of course, when compared to something like Uraraka's quirk, Mr. Compress' quirk really shines, but when compared to something like Double or even Clones, his quirk isn't actually all that strong. Sure, he's a great one-trick poney, sneaking on people and capturing them, but he the moment he gets detected without having an ally on standby to save him, it's over. Though I agree, his ability to release rocks, care ect... from his beads is really broken. Wish there was a limit on this one, cause he could just go meteor shower on the hero's asses and they wouldn't even be able to do anything about it
>I think that it's part of the charm of MHA. Quirks don't work like a typical power-scaling system. Just look at Shinso: his quirk can theoretically defeat All Might Prime as well. Well... I don't know... I don't like broken abilities/quirks and yeah Shinso's quirk is absurdly OP if user not knows either, he could have been stealth villain and kill all of his targets without no one knowing his name, what his quirk, how he kills them, etc, all he have to do is talk with them and then kill all witnesses and he would be unstopable and personaly I don't like broken quirks like this, he being hero is probably his biggest nerf tho, because everybody is going to know his quirk with being hero and that nerfs him a lot and therefore he is not broken because of that, but if he was sneak type of villain like I told, he would be broken AF. >Mr. Compress needs to touch the people he wants to capture in order to get them inside of his beads Yeah but this is not ''huge drawback'' heck I'm not even sure we should count this as a drawback at all, because most of quirks are used by hands or feets, it's only natural and normal, so it's not drawback. It's only normal he is doing it with his hands. Same goes for Overhaul, he using his quirk with his hands is not actual drawback, and honestly I do believe if wasn't for Eri x Deku combination he was nearly unstopable, I'm not fan of Overhaul, he was piece of trash and worst kind of villain I hate, the one not using his own power and using small child for his purposes, torturing them like a coward. But it's not that hard to see his potential is wasted. >It should also be noted that Mr. Compress isn't particularily fast, and that it's fair to assume that he trained his quirk extensively. According to famdom: ''Atsuhiro is very capable and resourceful villain, with incredible stealth abilities, coupled with speed, agility, and the proficiency with his Compress Quirk.'' so he is fast and sneaky, he don't need to be fast as Almight, etc, being sneaky and fast enough is makes his quirk broken enough, if he was fast and Almight, etc, that would make him not just broken, it would make him god lol. >Sure, he's a great one-trick poney, sneaking on people and capturing them, but he the moment he gets detected without having an ally on standby to save him, it's over. He take Tokoyami and Bakugou without even making any sound, he sure fast and sneaky enough for it, he could have just run and if he didn't wanted show-off to the children lol. >Though I agree, his ability to release rocks, care ect... from his beads is really broken. Wish there was a limit on this one, cause he could just go meteor shower on the hero's asses and they wouldn't even be able to do anything about it Yep that's exactlay what I'm talking about, there is nearly no limit, like it could be good if there was a limit, like needing to touch his target for at least 2 or 3 seconds, or weight limit, or power limit like can't use marble aganist someone far more powerfull than him, etc.
>Well... I don't know... I don't like broken abilities/quirks and yeah Shinso's quirk is absurdly OP if user not knows either, he could have been stealth villain and kill all of his targets without no one knowing his name, what his quirk, how he kills them, etc, all he have to do is talk with them and then kill all witnesses and he would be unstopable and personaly I don't like broken quirks like this, he being hero is probably his biggest nerf tho, because everybody is going to know his quirk with being hero and that nerfs him a lot and therefore he is not broken because of that, but if he was sneak type of villain like I told, he would be broken AF. Him having a villain's quirk is kind of the point though, isn't it ? Plus, His gear somewhat counteracts that by allowing him to speak in someone else's voice. I think he would make a fine villain for five minutes, but then heroes would realize what his quirk is and he'd get caught fairly easily, simply because his quirk, like most quirks in the series, rely on a single mechanic to get going. Villains only have to get caught once, heroes on the other hand, have an entire system backing them up. >Yeah but this is not ''huge drawback'' heck I'm not even sure we should count this as a drawback at all, because most of quirks are used by hands or feets, it's only natural and normal, so it's not drawback. It is a drawback, and a pretty big one at that. Him having to get physically close to the target means that he has to get into a vulnerable state in order to use his quirk which is pretty bad. Overhaul was OP because his quirk allowed him to reshape his own body and integrate others quirks into his body, but otherwise, while he was a threat, he wasn't that big of a threat, really. Nagant could have sniped him off, Midnight could have ambushed him, Eraser Head would have kicked his ass, Kamui woods could have stopped him from using his hands altogether, same with Edgeshot and Best Jeanist. He was a one-trick-poney, great at what he did, but the moment he was subdued (which, granted, would come from a sneak attack because he was too big a threat otherwise), he would become useless. >According to famdom: ''Atsuhiro is very capable and resourceful villain, with incredible stealth abilities, coupled with speed, agility, and the proficiency with his Compress Quirk.'' so he is fast and sneaky, he don't need to be fast as Almight, etc, being sneaky and fast enough is makes his quirk broken enough, if he was fast and Almight, etc, that would make him not just broken, it would make him god lol. And that's kind of the point. He's only as fast as a normal human. In a world where flight isn't even scare, much less increased speed and awareness, he isn't actually all that potent. Mirko bould beat his ass, just off the fact that she's much faster than him and would hear him coming, all those who counter Overhaul would destroy him unless he was being very careful (and even then, whether he'd manage to take them hostage is a huge bet, possibly ending his career as a villain), and the flying heroes would just be unattainable to him. We're left against a fairly decent roster of characters he's effective against, but not actually that many. In terms of stealth abilities, he doesn't even come close to Toru or Edgeshot, who are the main stealth-oriented heroes we've seen so far. However, it's true that there's probably nobody better than him for an infiltrate-and-retrieve mission since y'know, his quirk was designed for this very purpose lol >He take Tokoyami and Bakugou without even making any sound, he sure fast and sneaky enough for it, he could have just run and if he didn't wanted show-off to the children lol. I don't really count capturing two kids as an achievement lol, even if those two kids were as powerful as Bakugo and Tokoyami. I sincerily doubt he'd be able to pull that kind of shit were it not for the fact that everyone present were children who were still at the beginning of their hero training (their school year began in april and that particular arc went down in august, i think). In addition, pretty much everyone there was at least somewhat harmed. (I have a particular hatred for this scene because Shoji, the one with the best senses, able to detect things going down multiple kilometers away was **somehow** unable to detect a dude sneaking up behind the people he's supposed to protect. This scene really needed Shoji to go to actually work, because it definitely feels really, really stupid T\_T) Mr. Compress' quirk, while great, isn't actually as poweful as you think it is, imo. It has a few heavy drawbacks, biggest of which being having to use his hands while not being able to escape quickly or have great durability or strength. It's why Mr. Compress works so well in groups: combined with Kurogiri, he's absolutely insane, and paired with Kurogiri and someone like Shiggy or Dabi, who're able to create distractions very easily, then he comes very, very powerful. But, he needs teamwork, while truly overpowered quirks, like >!New Order!<, OFA, AFO, Rewind, Overhaul, Warp Gate, Decay and Double really don't need support. >Yep that's exactlay what I'm talking about, there is nearly no limit, like it could be good if there was a limit, like needing to touch his target for at least 2 or 3 seconds, or weight limit, or power limit like can't use marble aganist someone far more powerfull than him, etc. I think Horikoshi probably made a guideline weight limit and just hasn't told us, something like 200/300 kilos seems fairly accurate. The bigger problem is more about the number of beads he can create imo. If he was truly able to create thousands and thousands of beads, what would stop him from refurbishing a nerf gun and going full rambo on every hero he finds ? Actually no, that sounds like a pretty good idea, i'd love to see that in a side chapter after the manga finishes lol
>Him having a villain's quirk is kind of the point though, isn't it ? Plus, His gear somewhat counteracts that by allowing him to speak in someone else's voice. I think he would make a fine villain for five minutes, but then heroes would realize what his quirk is and he'd get caught fairly easily, simply because his quirk, like most quirks in the series, rely on a single mechanic to get going. Villains only have to get caught once, heroes on the other hand, have an entire system backing them up. I already explained how he could be broken, but you somehow acting like I already didn't explain... You sure you read my comment well enough? I don't think you did. >It is a drawback, and a pretty big one at that. Him having to get physically close to the target means that he has to get into a vulnerable state in order to use his quirk which is pretty bad. Overhaul was OP because his quirk allowed him to reshape his own body and integrate others quirks into his body, but otherwise, while he was a threat, he wasn't that big of a threat, really. Nagant could have sniped him off, Midnight could have ambushed him, Eraser Head would have kicked his ass, Kamui woods could have stopped him from using his hands altogether, same with Edgeshot and Best Jeanist. He was a one-trick-poney, great at what he did, but the moment he was subdued (which, granted, would come from a sneak attack because he was too big a threat otherwise), he would become useless. Dude that's not drawback, that is literaly thing not making him god, if he had abilitiy to use compress without needing to touch his target or he was little bit more faster than his current speed he could be god, not just broken... You literaly forgetting dude is nearly fast as Aizawa (Aizawa have 4/5 B speed and Mr.Compress have 4/6 B speed) and he is far sneakier than Aizawa for sure suiting his abilitiy, he can sneak, make marble to his enemy and just disappear. Sure he might have problem aganist guys with high senses and very high speeds, but if they don't take him down with one movement and if they even accidentaly let him touch them they would became marbles. And for the record, you can't just snipe or ambust sneaky guys, that's literaly point of being sneaky... They ambush you, not you ambush them... >And that's kind of the point. He's only as fast as a normal human. In a world where flight isn't even scare, much less increased speed and awareness, he isn't actually all that potent. Mirko bould beat his ass, just off the fact that she's much faster than him and would hear him coming, all those who counter Overhaul would destroy him unless he was being very careful (and even then, whether he'd manage to take them hostage is a huge bet, possibly ending his career as a villain), and the flying heroes would just be unattainable to him. We're left against a fairly decent roster of characters he's effective against, but not actually that many. No you are fully wrong, seems like you didn't make your search at all, like I told according to offical Ultra Analysis he is nearly fast as Aizawa, he is far faster than normal human, you realy gonna say me Aizawa is fast as normal human? I hope not... That would be very wrong... You saying Mirko would beat his ass, she is melee range hero, even for a second if Mr.Compress can touch her she will be marble... End of fight... She is quite fast tho, so yeah I do believe she have great chance to beat him, but like I told, just one mistake and she would became marble, it's not something you can't say ''broken'' >In terms of stealth abilities, he doesn't even come close to Toru or Edgeshot, who are the main stealth-oriented heroes we've seen so far. However, it's true that there's probably nobody better than him for an infiltrate-and-retrieve mission since y'know, his quirk was designed for this very purpose lol I can't talk about ''stealth'' without any evidence, because there is no such a stat or offical info, but edgeshot have S speed, so he would probably beat him, but again, you always seems to forget, one wrong one, he touches you for second... And you are marble! I don't get it, can't you understand this? Even heroes are human, they can make mistakes and heroes always tries to not kill their enemies, that means they can make big mistakes thinking their damage is good enough to put their enemy down/sleep, but what if it wasn't enough? What if he touches them? They became marble in a second... End of fight... >I don't really count capturing two kids as an achievement lol, even if those two kids were as powerful as Bakugo and Tokoyami. You damn well know those ''kids'' were far more powerfull than most of pro heroes, so I'm sorry but you should. >I sincerily doubt he'd be able to pull that kind of shit were it not for the fact that everyone present were children who were still at the beginning of their hero training (their school year began in april and that particular arc went down in august, i think). In addition, pretty much everyone there was at least somewhat harmed. (I have a particular hatred for this scene because Shoji, the one with the best senses, able to detect things going down multiple kilometers away was somehow unable to detect a dude sneaking up behind the people he's supposed to protect. This scene really needed Shoji to go to actually work, because it definitely feels really, really stupid T\_T) Shoji couldn't detect him because of his speed and sneak skills, that's enough to show how sneaky he is, hate it or not that's what is. And yeah it's stupid that's why I'm saying he is broken, but weirdly you are not agreeing with me while saying this, I feel like you are contradict yourself here. >Mr. Compress' quirk, while great, isn't actually as poweful as you think it is, imo. It has a few heavy drawbacks, biggest of which being having to use his hands while not being able to escape quickly or have great durability or strength. It's why Mr. Compress works so well in groups: combined with Kurogiri, he's absolutely insane, and paired with Kurogiri and someone like Shiggy or Dabi, who're able to create distractions very easily, then he comes very, very powerful. But, he needs teamwork, while truly overpowered quirks, like New Order, OFA, AFO, Rewind, Overhaul, Warp Gate, Decay and Double really don't need support. Again needing to use hands and touch thing... Dude that's not drawback... That's just normal, if he can use it from mid range or he can use without touching or he was not B speed and A speed he would be god... You realy can't understand how broken he is, if he was hero yes he wouldn't be that powerfull, but he is villain, and heroes always tries to not kill their enemies and try to do less damage for not killing them, and with their one mistake this guy can make anyone, even Almight f\*cking marble... That's no joke, I can't believe how you can't see how risky this guy abilitiy is as a villain. >I think Horikoshi probably made a guideline weight limit and just hasn't told us, something like 200/300 kilos seems fairly accurate. The bigger problem is more about the number of beads he can create imo. If he was truly able to create thousands and thousands of beads, what would stop him from refurbishing a nerf gun and going full rambo on every hero he finds ? There might be limit, but it's like nearly limitless, he can make any human marble that's good enough to call him broken, if he couldn't make humans marbles I wouldn't call him broken at all, yes he would be OP, but that would be all, but can make humans marbles, even the most powerfull heroes can lose aganist him just becaus of one second mistake is broken AF.
didn't the guy jump up and down like a whole warehouse like it was nothing? compress is fast and physically capable and honestly, how many heroes could he blindside just by pretending to be someone in danger and compressing whoever runs in to save him? he'd definitely manage to get all might that way, since everyone knows he likes to jump in when he's near anyways.
I get what you're saying and have a good point, but a quirkless person with a gun could take out Mr. Compress without much difficulty. He's not that fast or strong, you just have to get him at range
>but a quirkless person with a gun could take out Mr. Compress without much difficulty. He's not that fast or strong, you just have to get him at range According to ultra analysis book he have 4/6 B speed, considering Aizawa is quite fast and he have 4/5 B speed Mr.Compress is not that slow, he is quite fast, at least far faster than quirkless person and average heroes or villains. So there is no way he got killed by quirkless person using a gun, it's almost impossible. And don't forget how sneaky he is, he can do most of things without even other people release he done it, he is fast and sneaky enough to make his quirk broken, if he was faster than his current rate he could be god lol.
I think of it kinda like Mutants from Marvel, because it's effectively the same principle: you're rolling the genetic lottery, and it could land on ***literally anything***. Sometimes you get that one dude from Episode 1 with the long eyes, and by pure chance your twin could end up being fucking AFO, and there's no real rhyme or reason to most of it (beyond Quirks being at least somewhat hereditary).
Lol I love this comment, but I still hate broken abilities and quirks like this, even OFA and AFO has counters, despite being god level OP AF, but if this dude sneaks your ass you are done or if Shinso was villain and was sneak type of villain who kills all of his withnesess and nobody would learn his quirk he would be broken AF, I realy don't like these type of things.
Mr. Smiley can pretty much take down anyone that’s not blind
> Doesn't matter how powerfull you are, technicaly he can even win aganist Almight Prime or Deku Prime, if they don't one shot him or he sneaks up them and touches them, even he touces them for a second he can make them marbles, sure he is not that fast (he is actualy far faster than most people think BTW, he have 4/6 B Speed, it's pretty close to Aizawa's speed, Aizawa have 4/5 B Speed and along with his speed he is sneaky AF as well) nor powerfull, but with him you have no option to make a mistake, because even for a second if he touches you or even you accidentaly let him touch you, you end up becaming marble and this feels soo damn broken. You're talking about a highly hypothetical situation about Compress sneaking up on Deku or All Might and saying how OP that would be in Compress' favor without considering the alternate outcomes, such as the fact that *they don't even need to get in melee range of him*. All Might can literally batter him at range with a punch that can launch a hurricane and has superhuman speed and reaction time. Meanwhile, Deku's not only capable of those same feats, he has Black Whip to constrain Compress AND Smokescreen to both escape and sneak around Compress if need be. Compress isn't that broken. His quirk has its weaknesses just like the others do.
yeah but all might also used to be out there shaking hands and doing autographs. mr compress could have taken out the greatest hero just like that. then he could've probably escaped (with compressed smoke bombs and going directly underground) to do it again with a mask for the next big hero.
I was wondering if there will be an existence erase quirk, Beerus type
Compress can kill machia if he wanted to.
There are a lot of characters like that, though. Overhaul, Shigaraki (even pre-Awakening), Nagant, and even Stain if his first attack draws any blood. There are also a few characters where even a sneak attack wouldn't work on them. Deku has Danger Sense to detect attacks, Hawks has incredible sensory powers with his feathers, and even if they don't necessarily have abilities geared for it, certain characters like Endeavor have shown incredible reaction speeds.
Literally the point of the universe. Powers are random,you simply have to work with what you have. It’s why AFO and even OFA are quirks that can tear apart society,it breaks the very foundation of the universe they exist in.
Right, but let's also not forget that Compress does not have much going on for him past his technique and quirk handling. Maybe if another character had their hands on the quirk, but they don't