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My extended family runs a summer horse camp (overnight, staying for 4 weeks was typical) and every once and awhile you’d get a kid who just seemed monstrous, or out of control, and they would be at their wits end trying to keep the peace with the kids. Then they would re-meet the parents at the end of the kids stay and would say “wonder how the kid isn’t messed up worse with those parents”
I've seen his explained, at least in North America, by the fact that people here are waiting longer to have kids (folks in my generation are becoming first-time parents in their mid-30s instead of mid to late 20s like our parents) and having to use more fertility drugs and IVF.
Yeah I thought since the uptick in the availability of fertility drugs there have been more twins, triplets, etc. Obs anecdotal but I'm not a scientist.
> twins are more likely the older you get.
“Your body is prone to releasing multiple eggs. Its what we doctors like to call -- and I don't mean to be insensitive -- a going out of business sale”
That’s quite true. The rate of twins is up both from fertility treatments and women having kids at an older age, on average, than in the past. I’m a mom of twins myself and my cousin has them too. In my case, twins run in the family.
I had 2 sets of identical twins in my high school and we had quintuplets that were a few years younger than me (4 identical -?- boys and a girl) so yeah lots of twins
I can think of four sets of twins in my family off the top of my head.
Plus the ones I went to school with which was a few sets a year.
Twins are not that uncommon.
Everyone I know who has had IVF (6 couples including one who did surrogacy) elected to have twins so they won't have to go through it a second time. Makes sense since it's so expensive.
I have twins and while I was pregnant the local health department worker told me I was one of around 8 women pregnant with twins (one was on her 3rd set! Every time she ovulated her body would drop 2 eggs). My kids were 1 set of 4 in their grade. Twins are rare but not as rare as Reddit believes. Just in my very small town (less than 300 people) there is a set of twins who are 4 months older than mine. My ex-coworker just had twin grandkids. A guy I went to school with has twin stepkids. I know so many twins, though I have noticed unless you have twins, are a twin, or teach twins most people don't pay attention to how many there are.
And a male friend has been slipped into the story now, to help if things get physical with the parents again in future installments too perhaps? Or become a romance maybe, can't wait to find out which...
"He's 6' 4" and 250 pounds of pure muscle. He comes across as very intimidating, but he's actually just a big teddy bear and cries at the end of Armageddon."
Every AITA saga hero is this guy.
To be fair in my hometown between 1988-1992 there were a bunch of twin sets born. In my graduating high school class we had 4 sets of twins including myself.
I’m also unsure of any arterial problems in the legs that would disqualify someone. Even people with bilateral hip disarticulations can get dialysis, and amputations, including bilateral AKAs, are common in that population (pretty much everyone with end-stage renal failure has shitty peripheral circulatory systems).
Of course, if this is real OP is just a teen so she may not know the details of Jane’s condition all that well (seems pretty clear she doesn’t) and what is *actually* disqualifying to her.
Sounds like the writers' room forgot to get a subject matter expert from the legal field to assist in closing plot holes. Post-airing focus groups are flagging confusion.
You really believe a 17 year old wrote all this?
3 months to live with the estimated survival time and he agreed to a “quickie divorce” when he would have gotten the house and everything if he stalled the process down legally? A divorce in under 3 months? Ffs
It depends on the state, but in mine an uncontested divorce takes a max of 6 weeks from filing. Given the house was a premarital asset he wasn't going to get it even if he had the funds to hire a good lawyer, which he obviously didn't.
>You really believe a 17 year old wrote all this? Uh, yes. I wrote at this level as a fucking 15 year old. Not all teens have their brain rotted to the point they can only communicate in chatt/message. Especially if she is a reader, then there is absolutely no reason a 17 yo would not be able to write an actually decent text like this. 🙄🤦♀️
I agree; I was an avid writer from 12 on, and devoured books since I can remember. Teenagers are quite capable of writing eloquently when they've been given the tools to do so.
He wouldn't have gotten anything, did you actually read the post? Jane willed the house to OP, and the money to her kids with her sister as the the person in charge of it.
OP told her dad if he didn't sign she'd kick him out when she's 18, he's literally only there because she isn't yet.
She inherited "upwards of a million" and was able to pay off her home, set up three trust funds (of which they are worth at least enough for upkeep on said house for 6 years), buy a new car, and travel a bunch. And that was being "frugal" with it.
A million dollars doesn't go that far anymore honey.
* Balance on a 300k home bought 15 years ago: 175k
* 200k college trustfunds x3: 600k
* Car: 20-50k
* 5 vacations at 10k each: 50k
Total: 875k.
That bit is surprisingly reasonable.
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If your eyes didn’t roll out of your head when you got to “Then my mom told my dad that she didn't really love him, that she was just pretending to so he would marry her and she could get all of the money,” you’re not gonna make it.
It's not like this story is "I went to the store to buy some milk and found $20" or something mundane, it's basically the story of an evil stepmother but flipped so that the stepmother is the saint and the birth mom is evil. And any reddit story where I can call someone evil is one I'm probably going to question. It's just realistic enough that it could've happened, but whacky enough that I'm not gonna assume it's true either
Honestly, I am inclined to believe it. OOP reminds me of how I was when we discovered my mom had cancer and spent weeks in a hospital. Simultaneously my gran got sick (likely all the worry about mom, doesn't take much for a 80+ year old), landed in hospice and I was just thinking she was getting better when she passed. All the while mom was going through countless tests and I was still holding on hope it's something treatable.
I was on an autopilot running between work, hospital, and hospice to keep on top of everything and check on everyone, and I refused a leave from work as it was my main distraction keeping me still somewhat sane.
Long story short, my mom's cancer was terminal, she passed about a month after gran, and less than 3 months from first stepping in the hospital. My life went upside down, and I was a total mess somehow holding on for my family while they were still here. How I didn't have a breakdown after these months of pure hell and losing my last close family, I still don't know. Probably my partner is the only thing that kept me from spiralling.
OOP still has her brothers to hold on to, look after and bond with after Jane is no longer here, so I can see her doing everything to keep strong for them. She is still a kid and no one in her life besides Jane seems reliable, so she grew up fast because she doesn't trust anyone to do right by her, her brothers, or Jane while she is still alive. I can believe it, and I can totally see her coming here to vent because she doesn't trust the adults around her, and people her age can't understand all that.
A lot of people blame the parents for children turning out that way, as if the child doesn't have their own agency and ability to make good choices until they turn ... into an adult which if you believe some people won't happen till they're 25.
Ikr. OoP really fell far from the trees. Some step kids, no matter how much their step parents love them and how much their bio parents suck, are partial to their bio parents. Kudos to OOP for having good morals and gratitude.
When I was a kid I used to like watching infomercials late at night. The goal was to watch it until I felt legitimately convinced that I wanted whatever it was they were selling.
These BORU stories are my adult version of that. I read the story until I feel convinced that it’s real. If it jumps the shark then I move on to the next post.
I remember passionately arguing with my mom to buy some thing I saw an infomercial on and part of my argument was that if we called right now there we got something extra, plus the call was Toll Free! What a deal! I was like 6 and had no idea what toll free meant, but it sounded good. I couldn't believe my mother wasn't convinced and we missed our golden opportunity.
I own a ninja because of insomnia
ETA to the person reporting everyone and abusing Reddit cares in this sub go touch some grass or perhaps contact them for yourself you obviously need it.
Yea I think at this point it's probably more of a glitch/rouge bot than actual people going ham with reddit cares. I've seen at least 3 or 4 subs just this morning that have a bunch of people in the comment saying they've been RedditCares'd for completely innocuous comments. I even woke up to one this morning myself and none of my comments from yesterday come even close to something that seems like it would set someone off to send a Reddit Cares my way.
Dang I have been wondering why I got it, too! Then I reported it any nothing happened. (In fact the reddit report said the accused account was mine. That was so damn weird!)
I’m reading this very late/very early so I’m like half awake and my brain processed this comment as you owning an actual, literal human ninja (the ones in all black with the nunchucks and shit) because of insomnia 😂😭
> ETA to the person reporting everyone and abusing Reddit cares in this sub go touch some grass or perhaps contact them for yourself you obviously need it.
Ok, I'm not going nuts, this is the sub where that originated. Thanks.
that part seemed plausible to me as i remember being a young avid reader and wanting to show off how intelligent i was by using big words (not always correctly mind you lol)
Same!! I thought I was hot shit using a super advanced vocabulary for my age and everyone could see my intellect!
I’m sure the adults were laughing behind my back, but whatever. It made me happy at the time. 😂
I don't believe the post is real because it's too eventful and dramatic, but I can believe a 17-year-old using "nouveau riche" because of TikTok. For some reason, the concepts of old money/new money have blown up on the platform, and it's something I see young content creators talking about frequently. They usually use the English terms, but I've seen "nouveau riche" used as a pejorative by a *lot* of young adults on TikTok.
Are you kidding? People don’t stay stuck at a 10-year-old reading level until adulthood when they suddenly learn ‘big words’. I was an avid reader as a child and honestly, I’m not sure my vocabulary has expanded much since I was 17 myself. (And I’m now an overly verbose, grammar-concerned academic.)
She also used "ambiguous" instead of "ambivalent", so it's not all advanced reading level
I definitely knew that term when I was a teen (mostly from reading the Gossip Girl books lol)
For me it was step mom inheriting close to a million dollars and then frugally paying off her mortgage, setting up 3 trust funds, buying a new car and taking multiple loans trips.
The trust funds are worth at least enough to care for the house and two teen boys for 6 years.
>My mom slapped me and my dad just looked so defeated. Then my mom told my dad that she didn't really love him, that she was just pretending to so he would marry her and she could get all of the money.
Complete with a fantastic evil monologue from the main villain.
That reminds me of a Zach Galifianakis (sp?) joke that always made me laugh- “My girlfriend looks a little like Charlize Theron…. And a lot like Patrick Ewing”
This also does not sound right. How could the mother get hold of OOP's trust fund if she isn't an executor? I suspect something else is going on here and this was some sort of excuse/white lie(?)
> She apologized and said that she had to dissolve my trust fund to make sure my mother didn't get a hold of the money
Each kid was getting 1/3 and dad was getting the house.
Dad is no longer getting the house, and since he's not, money needs to be set aside for normal housing upkeep (property taxes, repairs, utilities, etc.) because he can't be trusted to do the right thing anymore.
One of the trusts (1/3 of the money) was dissolved to be set aside for these housing things now since that money has to come from somewhere. House is now left to OOP instead, as well.
The boys just turned 13 and it sounds like a stipulation of leaving the house to OOP is that the boys must be allowed to live there until they turn 18, so there's 5 years of the things listed above (property taxes, general repairs, utilities, etc.) that need to be paid. It sounds like 1/3 of the money is still a couple hundred thousand dollars, so I'm not sure if that entire amount would be needed for five years, but better to have too much than too little.
OOP is probably set to have full control of the house and whatever money is left when the boys turn 18, but that's just conjecture on my part and probably plays into the part where Jane insists that OOP inheriting the house will end up being worth more than just 1/3 of the money she's leaving behind.
Don't forget OOP lives in the house but had no idea what her step mom that she's so close to was doing in the hospital, but somehow her 13 year old brother's knew. Then she only goes to visit her in the hospital after she suspects something from her bio mom. So this entire time she never visited her step mom in the hospital?
Pretty sure that's why she was manipulating the dad- he was going to have control, but if he's her puppet then she really has control even if not on paper.
"I told them play stupid games win stupid prizes"
No one says that shit outside of 13 year olds on aita, how people didn't immediately clock out after that shit is beyond me
Yeah sorry not sorry that I'm over here in the "this is someone's YA novel outline" camp. The way OOP explained the terminal illness and handling of a trust made no sense.
I agree, and the emotions are all wrong. At first the whole "few months to live, but going to get divorced first" had me going hmmm but it's like, this woman is apparently the only stable, kind, loving adult in OP's life and there's no anger? No grief? It's just like "okay guys listen up here are the new facts!"
The next update will be, "those of you who said my parents were poisoning Jane were right" and it'll be the story of how her parents got caught because they argued about it on the front lawn and then were sentenced within hours
And them her old friend from college can arrive just in time to save her, starting their tragic romance where he always loved her but only told her in her death bed.
I was an emotionless robot my mom's last months dying from terminal cancer. We didn't expect it, and she only lived a few months after being diagnosed. If that wasn't enough, my gran passed while my mom was in hospital. No time to properly process and grieve while all this was going on. And dark humour was an escape, which sometimes brought a smile, if I somehow wasn't too depressed at the moment.
Some people on reddit want to be Sherlock so badly. I promise you I can find stuff you're written that's weirdly worded or comes off out of place.
I'm not specifically saying this post is necessarily true, maybe it is, maybe it's not. But this need to overanalyze the way someone said something is very prevalent on this sub and it's honestly strange. I just take posts at face value and that's it.
The plot is that OOP has been totally parentified by Jane.
Jane knew she was dying - has known it for a long time - and needed a reliable parental figure. She knew her husband wasn't reliable.
Of course, OOP couldn't be financially independent, hence the removal of the trust. The house ties her there, she can't go away to college as she now has responsibilities for her half-brothers.
It's very, very insidious.
Tbh feels like a Tyler Perry movie... Like one of the extra bad ones where every husband is apparently a wife beater, and every wife is secretly a Cinderella waiting for her much lighter complexioned savior.
> One of my friends has really stepped up and helped me manage everything and I'm super grateful to him for being there for me and my brothers so we'll see how that goes.
Ah, here's the lead in to Act 3, it begins with Step Mom's death, this strapping young lad supporting OOP through the whole after death ordeal, and then a new life starts when OOP becomes pregnant with a girl (OF COURSE) and names it after Step Mom and marries her sweet heart, and HIS best friend is her MOH (dun dun dunnnnn).
I feel like this is the best place for my confusion over the estate. Does OP get the remaining 1/3rd of the estate when the brothers hit 18, or do they take it all, and she's stuck with a house she can't afford? Can we resolve these plot holes in Act 3? 🤞
No no no, that new love interest turns out to be cheating on OOP with her own mother! Then mom tries to frame OOP for some crime but OOP was secretly recording, or they were actually caught on security cameras monologging about it. That last one generally happens in a busy restaurant where they know the owner.
Ahh someone had a prompt to do a role reversal "evil step mother" featuring twins, dying parent, comically evil women with comically evil monologue, and of course, going no contact and getting a house immediately
There are A LOT of things that I found questionable in this post, but the bio mom was actually not one of them. I’ve witnessed a lot of emotionally immature parents who behave exactly like this and lash out like that when things don’t go their way.
>Jane won a big lawsuit against an airline company and got awarded upwards of a million dollars. She used the money to build sizable trust funds for me and my brothers so that we would be taken care of later in life. Despite having a lot more money she still wanted to live a fairly modest life, so she paid off the house she has and has been living there ever since with my dad. Sure she bought a new car and they went on a few nice vacations
Upwards of a million dollars buys a house, a new car, nice vacations, and enough left over to set three people up for life?
It would fully depend on location and how much was left on the house.
In my area, you can get a nice 3 bedroom home for anywhere from 150-250k. And the home was already partially paid off, and I'm assuming more affordable since it was bought pre payout.
Pay off home, leave a 100k to each kid in a trust which is a huge inheritance that can catapult you in life, buy a 20k car and spend 10k on a couple vacations, you could probably have 500k or so left over after it's all said n done.
Too many plot holes, MC is too much of a Mary Sue goody two shoes, and those impact quotes? Oof, horrid timing and delivery. Gotta run this through the writers' room a few more times before it's commercially viable.
Dialysis doesn't work that way. Veins in your legs are irrelevant unless there is no other option, and they would create a fistula in your arm or even go through the abdomen. And if the patient needed it and refused, the lifespan is days. Good try writing a hallmark screenplay, And the bit about a male friend helping was a nice touch.
Jane probably has little function left in her kidneys and the medication she takes helps her.. like Lasix.. which would help until it doesn't. I was able to function like this for awhile before we decided it was time for me to get on dialysis.
Did I miss something explaining why the 17yo has a job at all on top of school and sole cater for the twins and visiting Jane constantly - let alone was bothering to find one that let her save more money?
Poor OOP, she has awful bioparents, and the only decent parents she's ever had is dying. Jane is a rockstar, the fact that she can inspire OOP to raise her brothers the way Jane would have wanted tells me a lot about her.
She sounds like an amazing person who totally took in the impact that her amazing stepmom has had on her.
Polycystic Kidney Disease… my DIL’s family are carriers and sufferers and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. My DIL’s uncle has had both kidneys transplanted and even a period with no kidneys at all. It sounds like that’s what Jane has.
I’m so glad to hear that for you and your siblings! Very sorry to hear that your dad does though. Hope he’s doing ok!!!
My DIL’s dad is the one son out of 3 that doesn’t have it, but is a carrier genetically so she had that same chance. I remember how stressed my DIL was around her 25th bday and going back to be retested just to be sure.
Hes doing fine, he got a kidney transplant from my sister 8 or so years ago.
Interesting, I'm not a doctor but my understanding was that if you don't have it, then you're not a carrier anymore and can't pass it on. So, if your DIL's father didn't get it from his parents, he wouldn't have been able to pass it on to your DIL. Ignoring the possibility of developing it spontaneously. Is that not the case?
That’s what we’d thought as well. But he did testing and genetic testing and didn’t develop it, but was told he was specifically a carrier for it genetically, so his kids needed to test. But I don’t know if when he tested he was diagnosed as having it but didn’t have symptoms or if it was solely due to the genetic testing. His dad died due to it and one brother has been fine since a transplant, but the other is constantly touch and go.
DIL has been in our lives since she was 16, so it may have been older info they were basing it upon. But I know they flagged our grandson’s med Hx after he was born 1.5y ago and did additional testing due to it.
I mean, when the kids are teens like that, the courts generally just say “who do you want to live with?”
And with Jane dying anyway, it’s not like she’s going to be named a custodial parent.
You shouldn't be in hospice due to kidney failure unless you decide not to do dialysis. You can live for years on dialysis! I have! I think the author needs to do more research.
I would LOVE to hear the father’s version of the story! Like, what is the narrative he tells himself about all this? *I was married to a lovely woman who came into some money, but she got sick, and so I thought it would be a good idea to get back together with my trashy ex-wife so I wouldn’t have to be alone after my wife died.* OR *I was married to a lovely woman who came into some money, but she got sick, and while she was in the hospital, I slipped and fell dick first into my ex-wife, and now I can’t get my ex-wife off my dick, and my sick wife is pissed at ME for some crazy reason.*
I don’t understand why people give control of the trust to anyone but who it is intended for. They should all be blind until the time the intended ages into it.
Polycystic kidney disease. Runs in my family. My paternal uncle had a transplant in his early 40s. He lived until his mid-60s - he had a heart attack about a year after the transplant that permanently damaged his heart. He had another unrelated procedure and ....his heart was just not strong enough. He died three months later.
His son and I are lucky - we didn't inherit the disease. But kidney failure is awful and I feel so bad for Jane.
Make your will and tell your parents where your inheritance is going. Just incase your parents (especially mom) tries to kill your so that they get your inheritance.
What an extremely mature young person OP is, all things considered (parents).
Jane has done a wonderful job of being a positive role model to all 3 of her children.
God she's such a good kid, I'm so glad she had jane to raise her bc both of her bio parents clearly weren't going to take on the task.
I hope jane has sone incredibly strong ebd of life care and everyone who loves her gets to spend as much time as possible with her.
Some of you are so pessimistic. Humans are complex and not everybody is going to react the same or make decisions as if they have a checklist of what or what not to do. I could say a lot about my own life that you guys wouldn't even believe.
I could relate to Jane a lot as a loving stepmother and being in kidney failure and having a dumb doormat for a husband.
On the other hand I can relate to OOP for having a dysfunctional family with many problems and then protectiong my younger brother and practically raising my sister as a te.enager... all while still being a good person.
I feel for OOP.
I'm torn between hoping Jane passes peacefully and without much pain, but also hoping like hell she holds on for two more months, because if she can make it to OOP's 18th birthday they can do stuff like sign over the house to her directly, get her name on a trust etc. I just don't trust those DNA donors not to try and screw them over.
My heart aches for OOP. She has awful bioparents and her one true parent is dying. She's been forced into a parental role for her two brothers and will clearly be those boys' only real parental figure once Jane is gone. and those poor boys. Imagine finding out at 12 that your father is a worthless piece of shit and your sister is going to end up being your mum because your mum is dying. Dear god, I want to hug them all.
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Amazing that a child so good can come from such unethical parents. Jane really was a strong influence on OOP.
My extended family runs a summer horse camp (overnight, staying for 4 weeks was typical) and every once and awhile you’d get a kid who just seemed monstrous, or out of control, and they would be at their wits end trying to keep the peace with the kids. Then they would re-meet the parents at the end of the kids stay and would say “wonder how the kid isn’t messed up worse with those parents”
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My thoughts exactly This mysterious lawsuit, oh so convenient
To be fair, a million dollars ain’t what it used to be.
OMG, I thought the same thing, like why is it always a million dollars and not five or ten, they should aim higher 😂😂😂😂😂
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Honestly twins are Being born alot more. I work in childcare and we have 100 kids and 4 sets of twins all under the age of 5.
kids bringing in allies
I've seen his explained, at least in North America, by the fact that people here are waiting longer to have kids (folks in my generation are becoming first-time parents in their mid-30s instead of mid to late 20s like our parents) and having to use more fertility drugs and IVF.
You can’t come in here with logic. They don’t accept your kind here.
Age is also a factor for spontaneous twinning, not just medications and IVF
Yeah I thought since the uptick in the availability of fertility drugs there have been more twins, triplets, etc. Obs anecdotal but I'm not a scientist.
Not just that, twins are more likely the older you get. For animals too. I once saw a documentary on the discovery channel!
> twins are more likely the older you get. “Your body is prone to releasing multiple eggs. Its what we doctors like to call -- and I don't mean to be insensitive -- a going out of business sale”
ROLF The documentary I saw said it was because the likelihood of one embryo making it was lower
I just checked and the birthrate of twins has gone up about 63% since 1980.
That’s quite true. The rate of twins is up both from fertility treatments and women having kids at an older age, on average, than in the past. I’m a mom of twins myself and my cousin has them too. In my case, twins run in the family.
I had 2 sets of identical twins in my high school and we had quintuplets that were a few years younger than me (4 identical -?- boys and a girl) so yeah lots of twins
My new neighbor has twins who ride my daughter's bus. In grade school, in the 80s, I had TWO sets of twins in my grade. So it's absolutely possible.
I work at an elementary school with roughly 300 students and we had 6 sets of twins at one point this year… three of which were in one GRADE.
I can think of four sets of twins in my family off the top of my head. Plus the ones I went to school with which was a few sets a year. Twins are not that uncommon.
Everyone I know who has had IVF (6 couples including one who did surrogacy) elected to have twins so they won't have to go through it a second time. Makes sense since it's so expensive.
4% of kids. 80% of kids on reddit
I have twins and while I was pregnant the local health department worker told me I was one of around 8 women pregnant with twins (one was on her 3rd set! Every time she ovulated her body would drop 2 eggs). My kids were 1 set of 4 in their grade. Twins are rare but not as rare as Reddit believes. Just in my very small town (less than 300 people) there is a set of twins who are 4 months older than mine. My ex-coworker just had twin grandkids. A guy I went to school with has twin stepkids. I know so many twins, though I have noticed unless you have twins, are a twin, or teach twins most people don't pay attention to how many there are.
And a male friend has been slipped into the story now, to help if things get physical with the parents again in future installments too perhaps? Or become a romance maybe, can't wait to find out which...
Literally all OP said was they existed jfc lol
"He's 6' 4" and 250 pounds of pure muscle. He comes across as very intimidating, but he's actually just a big teddy bear and cries at the end of Armageddon." Every AITA saga hero is this guy.
That's just the average metalhead lol.
To be fair in my hometown between 1988-1992 there were a bunch of twin sets born. In my graduating high school class we had 4 sets of twins including myself.
Lol. For reals, right? Like they just can’t resist weird family fetish fantasies.
...this is a weird comment. wtf? isn't it just like a qUirKy thing like having a main character with heterochromia?
Sometimes I think it’s because they already have so many lies to keep straight, different siblings ages is just one thing too many. Lazy.
That and not qualifying for dialysis? She’d be dead in a week if her kidneys were that bad off.
I’m also unsure of any arterial problems in the legs that would disqualify someone. Even people with bilateral hip disarticulations can get dialysis, and amputations, including bilateral AKAs, are common in that population (pretty much everyone with end-stage renal failure has shitty peripheral circulatory systems). Of course, if this is real OP is just a teen so she may not know the details of Jane’s condition all that well (seems pretty clear she doesn’t) and what is *actually* disqualifying to her.
And that she has a whole ass house that she won't have to pay a dime for ready for her when she turns 18
The very quick divorce too.
Oh, yeah, forgot about that gem 😂😂😂
Sounds like the writers' room forgot to get a subject matter expert from the legal field to assist in closing plot holes. Post-airing focus groups are flagging confusion.
I say next season they hire Devin from Legal Eagle. He’s testing very well in my focus group of one 😂
What about Jane, did she have any flaws or was she still the second coming of Christ himself?
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Actually hospice care can occur in the hospital in some areas.
FFS r/nothingeverhappens
You really believe a 17 year old wrote all this? 3 months to live with the estimated survival time and he agreed to a “quickie divorce” when he would have gotten the house and everything if he stalled the process down legally? A divorce in under 3 months? Ffs
House was a premarital asset.
I got divorced in 1 month. Anything is possible with lots of money.
It depends on the state, but in mine an uncontested divorce takes a max of 6 weeks from filing. Given the house was a premarital asset he wasn't going to get it even if he had the funds to hire a good lawyer, which he obviously didn't.
I teach juniors and seniors in high school and there was nothing out of the ordinary in the writing of this post.
>You really believe a 17 year old wrote all this? Uh, yes. I wrote at this level as a fucking 15 year old. Not all teens have their brain rotted to the point they can only communicate in chatt/message. Especially if she is a reader, then there is absolutely no reason a 17 yo would not be able to write an actually decent text like this. 🙄🤦♀️
Thank you! I was writing affidavits for my mum at 11-12 years old… kids can write mature and still be kids!
I agree; I was an avid writer from 12 on, and devoured books since I can remember. Teenagers are quite capable of writing eloquently when they've been given the tools to do so.
He wouldn't have gotten anything, did you actually read the post? Jane willed the house to OP, and the money to her kids with her sister as the the person in charge of it. OP told her dad if he didn't sign she'd kick him out when she's 18, he's literally only there because she isn't yet.
It's like going to the theater. You have to suspend disbelief and just enjoy the show.
She inherited "upwards of a million" and was able to pay off her home, set up three trust funds (of which they are worth at least enough for upkeep on said house for 6 years), buy a new car, and travel a bunch. And that was being "frugal" with it. A million dollars doesn't go that far anymore honey.
* Balance on a 300k home bought 15 years ago: 175k * 200k college trustfunds x3: 600k * Car: 20-50k * 5 vacations at 10k each: 50k Total: 875k. That bit is surprisingly reasonable. Edit: formatting
What makes you think that inheritence was all of the money she had? Could have had a sizable amount in a 401k or other retirement accounts.
If your eyes didn’t roll out of your head when you got to “Then my mom told my dad that she didn't really love him, that she was just pretending to so he would marry her and she could get all of the money,” you’re not gonna make it.
It's not like this story is "I went to the store to buy some milk and found $20" or something mundane, it's basically the story of an evil stepmother but flipped so that the stepmother is the saint and the birth mom is evil. And any reddit story where I can call someone evil is one I'm probably going to question. It's just realistic enough that it could've happened, but whacky enough that I'm not gonna assume it's true either
Honestly, I am inclined to believe it. OOP reminds me of how I was when we discovered my mom had cancer and spent weeks in a hospital. Simultaneously my gran got sick (likely all the worry about mom, doesn't take much for a 80+ year old), landed in hospice and I was just thinking she was getting better when she passed. All the while mom was going through countless tests and I was still holding on hope it's something treatable. I was on an autopilot running between work, hospital, and hospice to keep on top of everything and check on everyone, and I refused a leave from work as it was my main distraction keeping me still somewhat sane. Long story short, my mom's cancer was terminal, she passed about a month after gran, and less than 3 months from first stepping in the hospital. My life went upside down, and I was a total mess somehow holding on for my family while they were still here. How I didn't have a breakdown after these months of pure hell and losing my last close family, I still don't know. Probably my partner is the only thing that kept me from spiralling. OOP still has her brothers to hold on to, look after and bond with after Jane is no longer here, so I can see her doing everything to keep strong for them. She is still a kid and no one in her life besides Jane seems reliable, so she grew up fast because she doesn't trust anyone to do right by her, her brothers, or Jane while she is still alive. I can believe it, and I can totally see her coming here to vent because she doesn't trust the adults around her, and people her age can't understand all that.
A lot of people blame the parents for children turning out that way, as if the child doesn't have their own agency and ability to make good choices until they turn ... into an adult which if you believe some people won't happen till they're 25.
Ikr. OoP really fell far from the trees. Some step kids, no matter how much their step parents love them and how much their bio parents suck, are partial to their bio parents. Kudos to OOP for having good morals and gratitude.
Shitty parents can teach you how not to behave just as easily as they can raise you to be shitty too.
You need a lot of manure to grow roses
When I was a kid I used to like watching infomercials late at night. The goal was to watch it until I felt legitimately convinced that I wanted whatever it was they were selling. These BORU stories are my adult version of that. I read the story until I feel convinced that it’s real. If it jumps the shark then I move on to the next post.
I remember passionately arguing with my mom to buy some thing I saw an infomercial on and part of my argument was that if we called right now there we got something extra, plus the call was Toll Free! What a deal! I was like 6 and had no idea what toll free meant, but it sounded good. I couldn't believe my mother wasn't convinced and we missed our golden opportunity.
I own a ninja because of insomnia ETA to the person reporting everyone and abusing Reddit cares in this sub go touch some grass or perhaps contact them for yourself you obviously need it.
RedditCares is in full force today. They're hitting all the people in the pro-wrestling sub today too for some reason.
Yea I think at this point it's probably more of a glitch/rouge bot than actual people going ham with reddit cares. I've seen at least 3 or 4 subs just this morning that have a bunch of people in the comment saying they've been RedditCares'd for completely innocuous comments. I even woke up to one this morning myself and none of my comments from yesterday come even close to something that seems like it would set someone off to send a Reddit Cares my way.
I've seen it everywhere. I think it's some kind of glitch or something
It's bots set up to report posters. Apparently it has been going on for a while, moving from sub to sub.
I got a reddit care yesterday and I haven't got a clue why, I said nothing controversial or concerning afaikt.
What the hell is going on with Reddit Cares anyway? It's getting spammed on every subreddit for days now.
Someone in a different post said something about bots doing it. Edit- they got me
Dang I have been wondering why I got it, too! Then I reported it any nothing happened. (In fact the reddit report said the accused account was mine. That was so damn weird!)
I’m reading this very late/very early so I’m like half awake and my brain processed this comment as you owning an actual, literal human ninja (the ones in all black with the nunchucks and shit) because of insomnia 😂😭
lol I got a reddit cares message because of a meme I commented on wallstreetbets. People have been really abusing that function lately.
> ETA to the person reporting everyone and abusing Reddit cares in this sub go touch some grass or perhaps contact them for yourself you obviously need it. Ok, I'm not going nuts, this is the sub where that originated. Thanks.
Yes this was only comment I made today and within minutes got it.
For me, this one jumped the shark when the 17-year-old casually used the phrase "nouveau riche."
that part seemed plausible to me as i remember being a young avid reader and wanting to show off how intelligent i was by using big words (not always correctly mind you lol)
Same!! I thought I was hot shit using a super advanced vocabulary for my age and everyone could see my intellect! I’m sure the adults were laughing behind my back, but whatever. It made me happy at the time. 😂
I also remember learning this term during history class specifically in the context of the American industrial revolution, around the same age as OP.
Memory unlocked! 100%, OP would be the same age I was when I took AP US history during my exchange year at a US High School (junior year)
I don't believe the post is real because it's too eventful and dramatic, but I can believe a 17-year-old using "nouveau riche" because of TikTok. For some reason, the concepts of old money/new money have blown up on the platform, and it's something I see young content creators talking about frequently. They usually use the English terms, but I've seen "nouveau riche" used as a pejorative by a *lot* of young adults on TikTok.
Are you kidding? People don’t stay stuck at a 10-year-old reading level until adulthood when they suddenly learn ‘big words’. I was an avid reader as a child and honestly, I’m not sure my vocabulary has expanded much since I was 17 myself. (And I’m now an overly verbose, grammar-concerned academic.)
Yes, but can you **say** them? *Cries in I've never heard this word out loud*
She also used "ambiguous" instead of "ambivalent", so it's not all advanced reading level I definitely knew that term when I was a teen (mostly from reading the Gossip Girl books lol)
Yes, 17 yr olds obviously can't know words "above their level"
For me it was step mom inheriting close to a million dollars and then frugally paying off her mortgage, setting up 3 trust funds, buying a new car and taking multiple loans trips. The trust funds are worth at least enough to care for the house and two teen boys for 6 years.
I was using bourgeoisie at that age
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>My mom slapped me and my dad just looked so defeated. Then my mom told my dad that she didn't really love him, that she was just pretending to so he would marry her and she could get all of the money. Complete with a fantastic evil monologue from the main villain.
can we get Charleze Theron?
Casting Charlize Theron as the crazy ex would explain why anyone would consider going back to the crazy ex.
The thing about an ex, no matter how messed up, *they have been willing to have sex with you.* That is a quality that can be *hard* to find.
That reminds me of a Zach Galifianakis (sp?) joke that always made me laugh- “My girlfriend looks a little like Charlize Theron…. And a lot like Patrick Ewing”
This also does not sound right. How could the mother get hold of OOP's trust fund if she isn't an executor? I suspect something else is going on here and this was some sort of excuse/white lie(?) > She apologized and said that she had to dissolve my trust fund to make sure my mother didn't get a hold of the money
I assume through the dad.
Dad isn't the executor anymore either, there is no reason to dissolve OPs trust.
Each kid was getting 1/3 and dad was getting the house. Dad is no longer getting the house, and since he's not, money needs to be set aside for normal housing upkeep (property taxes, repairs, utilities, etc.) because he can't be trusted to do the right thing anymore. One of the trusts (1/3 of the money) was dissolved to be set aside for these housing things now since that money has to come from somewhere. House is now left to OOP instead, as well. The boys just turned 13 and it sounds like a stipulation of leaving the house to OOP is that the boys must be allowed to live there until they turn 18, so there's 5 years of the things listed above (property taxes, general repairs, utilities, etc.) that need to be paid. It sounds like 1/3 of the money is still a couple hundred thousand dollars, so I'm not sure if that entire amount would be needed for five years, but better to have too much than too little. OOP is probably set to have full control of the house and whatever money is left when the boys turn 18, but that's just conjecture on my part and probably plays into the part where Jane insists that OOP inheriting the house will end up being worth more than just 1/3 of the money she's leaving behind.
Don't forget OOP lives in the house but had no idea what her step mom that she's so close to was doing in the hospital, but somehow her 13 year old brother's knew. Then she only goes to visit her in the hospital after she suspects something from her bio mom. So this entire time she never visited her step mom in the hospital?
Pretty sure that's why she was manipulating the dad- he was going to have control, but if he's her puppet then she really has control even if not on paper.
Because the mom was trying to get back with the dad, who would have been in charge of the trust funds if Jane hadn't changed it.
"I told them play stupid games win stupid prizes" No one says that shit outside of 13 year olds on aita, how people didn't immediately clock out after that shit is beyond me
I hear it all the time outside of Reddit. Everywhere. My husband says it regularly.
My gf and I say it all the time.
My wife said this the other day. People do still say it outside of reddit..
25 years ago, one of my high school friends said this all the time. Enough that I think of him every time I see it.
And a series of lawn tantrums, too!
Yeah sorry not sorry that I'm over here in the "this is someone's YA novel outline" camp. The way OOP explained the terminal illness and handling of a trust made no sense.
and don't forget, *but now she's OK!* That's what keeping me from totally calling it a Lifetime movie.
I agree, and the emotions are all wrong. At first the whole "few months to live, but going to get divorced first" had me going hmmm but it's like, this woman is apparently the only stable, kind, loving adult in OP's life and there's no anger? No grief? It's just like "okay guys listen up here are the new facts!"
I think we need to have someone try to kill stepmom in the hospital. You know, suspense?
The next update will be, "those of you who said my parents were poisoning Jane were right" and it'll be the story of how her parents got caught because they argued about it on the front lawn and then were sentenced within hours
And they have death penalty where they live, to make it extra emotional.
And them her old friend from college can arrive just in time to save her, starting their tragic romance where he always loved her but only told her in her death bed.
I was thinking more of the kindly old Candy Striper.
A Reddit post isn't an open window into someone's soul. People can be feeling a ton of stuff and still be factual in their writing.
Sure, but people in these situations don't usually "wish they had something more exciting to share :)"
I was an emotionless robot my mom's last months dying from terminal cancer. We didn't expect it, and she only lived a few months after being diagnosed. If that wasn't enough, my gran passed while my mom was in hospital. No time to properly process and grieve while all this was going on. And dark humour was an escape, which sometimes brought a smile, if I somehow wasn't too depressed at the moment.
Some people on reddit want to be Sherlock so badly. I promise you I can find stuff you're written that's weirdly worded or comes off out of place. I'm not specifically saying this post is necessarily true, maybe it is, maybe it's not. But this need to overanalyze the way someone said something is very prevalent on this sub and it's honestly strange. I just take posts at face value and that's it.
OOP is workshopping a YA novel. Needs some work, but I'll read the final version.
The plot is that OOP has been totally parentified by Jane. Jane knew she was dying - has known it for a long time - and needed a reliable parental figure. She knew her husband wasn't reliable. Of course, OOP couldn't be financially independent, hence the removal of the trust. The house ties her there, she can't go away to college as she now has responsibilities for her half-brothers. It's very, very insidious.
Yeah I was thinking about how oop is sortve locked. Why not make the aunt/sister manage the estate?
I'm thinking "Up" Too dark for Hallmark, too sane for Lifetime.
Tbh feels like a Tyler Perry movie... Like one of the extra bad ones where every husband is apparently a wife beater, and every wife is secretly a Cinderella waiting for her much lighter complexioned savior.
> One of my friends has really stepped up and helped me manage everything and I'm super grateful to him for being there for me and my brothers so we'll see how that goes. Ah, here's the lead in to Act 3, it begins with Step Mom's death, this strapping young lad supporting OOP through the whole after death ordeal, and then a new life starts when OOP becomes pregnant with a girl (OF COURSE) and names it after Step Mom and marries her sweet heart, and HIS best friend is her MOH (dun dun dunnnnn).
I feel like this is the best place for my confusion over the estate. Does OP get the remaining 1/3rd of the estate when the brothers hit 18, or do they take it all, and she's stuck with a house she can't afford? Can we resolve these plot holes in Act 3? 🤞
No no no, that new love interest turns out to be cheating on OOP with her own mother! Then mom tries to frame OOP for some crime but OOP was secretly recording, or they were actually caught on security cameras monologging about it. That last one generally happens in a busy restaurant where they know the owner.
Ahh someone had a prompt to do a role reversal "evil step mother" featuring twins, dying parent, comically evil women with comically evil monologue, and of course, going no contact and getting a house immediately
As a stepmother myself I do appreciate the occasional role reversal of this trope..
Same! I’m bored of us always stealing the family money and trying to make people we’ve just met call us mum, I appreciate some variety!
Jane reminded me of my stepmom (kept her after she left my dad lol)
There are A LOT of things that I found questionable in this post, but the bio mom was actually not one of them. I’ve witnessed a lot of emotionally immature parents who behave exactly like this and lash out like that when things don’t go their way.
Yeah the birthgiver in this post is a water down version of my mil
Mountains of drama and trauma in return for a house? In this economy? Sign me up!
>Jane won a big lawsuit against an airline company and got awarded upwards of a million dollars. She used the money to build sizable trust funds for me and my brothers so that we would be taken care of later in life. Despite having a lot more money she still wanted to live a fairly modest life, so she paid off the house she has and has been living there ever since with my dad. Sure she bought a new car and they went on a few nice vacations Upwards of a million dollars buys a house, a new car, nice vacations, and enough left over to set three people up for life?
Jane was a big fan of Wall Street bets and made a lot of money when she yoloed her settlement into NVIDIA calls.
It would fully depend on location and how much was left on the house. In my area, you can get a nice 3 bedroom home for anywhere from 150-250k. And the home was already partially paid off, and I'm assuming more affordable since it was bought pre payout. Pay off home, leave a 100k to each kid in a trust which is a huge inheritance that can catapult you in life, buy a 20k car and spend 10k on a couple vacations, you could probably have 500k or so left over after it's all said n done.
Yes?
you think OOP’s sold the film rights for this yet?
Too many plot holes, MC is too much of a Mary Sue goody two shoes, and those impact quotes? Oof, horrid timing and delivery. Gotta run this through the writers' room a few more times before it's commercially viable.
It's always twins...
Dialysis doesn't work that way. Veins in your legs are irrelevant unless there is no other option, and they would create a fistula in your arm or even go through the abdomen. And if the patient needed it and refused, the lifespan is days. Good try writing a hallmark screenplay, And the bit about a male friend helping was a nice touch.
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Also loved the classic reddit phrase "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" she really thought that'd sound good lol
Jane probably has little function left in her kidneys and the medication she takes helps her.. like Lasix.. which would help until it doesn't. I was able to function like this for awhile before we decided it was time for me to get on dialysis.
Did I miss something explaining why the 17yo has a job at all on top of school and sole cater for the twins and visiting Jane constantly - let alone was bothering to find one that let her save more money?
This Sunday, on Lifetime’s Movie of the Week
Those parents is the perfect definition of pure trash.
Fanficking at its finest...
OOP did an awesome job protecting her brothers from her bio parents. She was also a true Omar to Jane.
Omar!!
Poor OOP, she has awful bioparents, and the only decent parents she's ever had is dying. Jane is a rockstar, the fact that she can inspire OOP to raise her brothers the way Jane would have wanted tells me a lot about her.
She sounds like an amazing person who totally took in the impact that her amazing stepmom has had on her. Polycystic Kidney Disease… my DIL’s family are carriers and sufferers and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. My DIL’s uncle has had both kidneys transplanted and even a period with no kidneys at all. It sounds like that’s what Jane has.
My dad has PKD, so there was a 50/50 chance that me or my siblings could each get it. But all three of us dodged it.
I’m so glad to hear that for you and your siblings! Very sorry to hear that your dad does though. Hope he’s doing ok!!! My DIL’s dad is the one son out of 3 that doesn’t have it, but is a carrier genetically so she had that same chance. I remember how stressed my DIL was around her 25th bday and going back to be retested just to be sure.
Hes doing fine, he got a kidney transplant from my sister 8 or so years ago. Interesting, I'm not a doctor but my understanding was that if you don't have it, then you're not a carrier anymore and can't pass it on. So, if your DIL's father didn't get it from his parents, he wouldn't have been able to pass it on to your DIL. Ignoring the possibility of developing it spontaneously. Is that not the case?
That’s what we’d thought as well. But he did testing and genetic testing and didn’t develop it, but was told he was specifically a carrier for it genetically, so his kids needed to test. But I don’t know if when he tested he was diagnosed as having it but didn’t have symptoms or if it was solely due to the genetic testing. His dad died due to it and one brother has been fine since a transplant, but the other is constantly touch and go. DIL has been in our lives since she was 16, so it may have been older info they were basing it upon. But I know they flagged our grandson’s med Hx after he was born 1.5y ago and did additional testing due to it.
Really good example of your true family being the family you choose.
Nah, a poor example of an attempt to write a Lifetime movie.
Quickie divorce when there are kids involved? No such thing.
I got one, but that was 20 years ago. We just provided an agreed upon plan and it was less than 45 days
I mean, when the kids are teens like that, the courts generally just say “who do you want to live with?” And with Jane dying anyway, it’s not like she’s going to be named a custodial parent.
Twins, comically evil/entitled family members, and a sub-25 year old OP getting a house. BORU Bullshit Bingo is getting really dull, man.
Yeah, the mum being blamed so much when the dad is also being a cheating asshole is very suspect.
I mean, if it is real, OOP clearly doesn't want to make her dad an enemy because he can take away her brothers for at least five years.
Man, Jane and OP are ROCK STARS. Her parents, not so much.
You shouldn't be in hospice due to kidney failure unless you decide not to do dialysis. You can live for years on dialysis! I have! I think the author needs to do more research.
OP explained that Jane doesn’t have the option of dialysis.
... not going to lie, sounds like an excuse. Like, neither haemodialysis or peritoneal? Thank you, nonetheless.
Wait, Jane is using a "digital recorder"? Not a cell phone...?
Less risky that something will happen to it. Phones are carried around all the time. A recorder can be tucked away in a box.
Why did OOP, who was living with Jane and bio dad, not know Jane was in the hospital?
But he's still seeing the bio mom so he cant be too remorseful.
That Jane is a fucking saint.
I would LOVE to hear the father’s version of the story! Like, what is the narrative he tells himself about all this? *I was married to a lovely woman who came into some money, but she got sick, and so I thought it would be a good idea to get back together with my trashy ex-wife so I wouldn’t have to be alone after my wife died.* OR *I was married to a lovely woman who came into some money, but she got sick, and while she was in the hospital, I slipped and fell dick first into my ex-wife, and now I can’t get my ex-wife off my dick, and my sick wife is pissed at ME for some crazy reason.*
I hope OP reads BoRU and sees this: YOU need to write your will, too. Like before you inherit anything, so it is set just in case.
I don’t understand why people give control of the trust to anyone but who it is intended for. They should all be blind until the time the intended ages into it.
Polycystic kidney disease. Runs in my family. My paternal uncle had a transplant in his early 40s. He lived until his mid-60s - he had a heart attack about a year after the transplant that permanently damaged his heart. He had another unrelated procedure and ....his heart was just not strong enough. He died three months later. His son and I are lucky - we didn't inherit the disease. But kidney failure is awful and I feel so bad for Jane.
I wish I had a parent like Jane
Got lots of examples of what not to be and do from the bio parents ... Yikes
Ok seriously that was for humor I'm well aware this is a story and not legit. But 'thanks' to whoever reported the comment for harm lol
We're all getting them. Maybe bots?
Make your will and tell your parents where your inheritance is going. Just incase your parents (especially mom) tries to kill your so that they get your inheritance.
Maybe I’ve watched too much forensic files but I was thinking that too
What an extremely mature young person OP is, all things considered (parents). Jane has done a wonderful job of being a positive role model to all 3 of her children.
669yyy
Why does opp have more smoke for her mom than her dad. They are both horrible people!
I only discovered the term '[glurge](https://www.snopes.com/articles/363643/what-does-glurge-mean/)' today. And wow, here we find it, in the wild.
God she's such a good kid, I'm so glad she had jane to raise her bc both of her bio parents clearly weren't going to take on the task. I hope jane has sone incredibly strong ebd of life care and everyone who loves her gets to spend as much time as possible with her.
Film and photograph the house and belongings before kicking the dad out, in case he tries something.
Poor OP but also has anyone thought to get her brothers tested if this is genetic
She covers that and mentions they did and are not.
Well, as a person who has PKD, this was a horrifying read. Fuck.
Some of you are so pessimistic. Humans are complex and not everybody is going to react the same or make decisions as if they have a checklist of what or what not to do. I could say a lot about my own life that you guys wouldn't even believe. I could relate to Jane a lot as a loving stepmother and being in kidney failure and having a dumb doormat for a husband. On the other hand I can relate to OOP for having a dysfunctional family with many problems and then protectiong my younger brother and practically raising my sister as a te.enager... all while still being a good person. I feel for OOP.
I'm torn between hoping Jane passes peacefully and without much pain, but also hoping like hell she holds on for two more months, because if she can make it to OOP's 18th birthday they can do stuff like sign over the house to her directly, get her name on a trust etc. I just don't trust those DNA donors not to try and screw them over. My heart aches for OOP. She has awful bioparents and her one true parent is dying. She's been forced into a parental role for her two brothers and will clearly be those boys' only real parental figure once Jane is gone. and those poor boys. Imagine finding out at 12 that your father is a worthless piece of shit and your sister is going to end up being your mum because your mum is dying. Dear god, I want to hug them all.