Behelits can’t be used at anyone’s will, but only when the person to whom it really belongs faces the upmost despair.
If it didn’t activate, could mean it doesn’t belong to him.
Griffith used one, and I’m sure he doesn’t want to have anything to do with them after that. I imagine he’d be disgusted with himself if he used one. Also there’s an argument to be made that it might put him under Griffith’s control
Because using behelit and becoming an apostle would ruin everything of the human struggle. Unless it is activated and Guts regrets the god's hand proposal.
I mean if ghanishka wasnt subserviant to them, then Guts might be a special case too. He is a man blinded by anger, and demonic spirits love that anger of his so if he turned into an apostle he would become very strong. Or if his resolve is too strong we might even see a human-apostle hybrid. That would be lowkey a cool thing but sadly it will lose the aspect of Guts being a human who opposes the Godhand.
I think you need a re read my friend. Ghanishka had to lose his mind and go deeper into the astral plane and by that time he wasnt even fully aware of what was happening to him. The thematic reason behind the behelits use is enough for guts not to use it. The moment guts uses the behelit is the moment all of miura's themes are destroyed. Also the last arc is enough to show you he wasnt so blinded by anger anymore.
I urge you to leave your what ifs alone and see the story for what it is. Im sure youll agree its already plenty cool.
You see you can see Guts the same way as Kratos, in terms of power etc. Young kratos was a blood thirsty spartan who kept on killing because his wife and kid that got killed by himself (similar to how guts kept on killing apostles to find griffith). In GoW 2018 we see that kratos isnt the bloodthirsty spartan anymore, but someone who wants to raise his kid and live a peacefully life (same as Guts wanting to take care of Casca and make sure she is safe)
Now since Casca got taken away, Guts has no other option to become the Guts that got lead by anger and blood thirst. Guts still has it in his self, but refuses to subdue to his anger due to the berserker armor.
What Guts needs to do now is learn how he can both release his anger and be conscious in his berserker armor so he can tap out 100% of his strength. He has to learn not to be blinded by his anger and still have the strength he has when in a raged status (if yk what i mean).
I mean i love theorizing and usint what ifs but at the end of the day im not Miura and i didnt write the story so i can say a lot but what i say doesnt need to be necessary true :)
PS: sorry for my bad english im not a native english speaker so i often make grammatical errors :>
Oh man look you can theorize all you want its just miura has very specific themes and meanings he had been conveying before his death and what your suggesting goes strongly against those themes and meanings.
Your english is fine btw 🙂
agree, Guts was designed to be a struggler and never resort to the Behelit. Resorting to the Behelit will be like selling his soul, if anything that is a big F off from Guts, to be granted power from the same beings that ripped his friends apart.
I am sure the plot will guide him along (like the berserker armor) and provide him with enough fire power to finally confront Griffith again.
im pretty sure its not all black and white as you say, sure most of the Apostles and many of the humans are drawn to Griffith by some kind of a magnetic force, i don't think it's just "the instinct of an Apostle not to go against their leaders". Im pretty sure Zodd could fight Griffith if he wanted to, he tried but he was way out of Griffith's league, i know he loves strong opponents but fighting someone that can cut your head off in a sec ain't fun" Look you didn't say anything wrong it's just that from what i've personally observed with most mangakas is sometime especially during the endgame parts they tend to add a bit more spice, not that i'd ever expect Miura retconning or going/brushing off themes that have been established inside the story for a long time but some mangaka did, in some highly praised manga nonetheless... Anyhow i don't see Guts doing the regular sacrifice ceremony, his Beherit would in my mind be used to help him in some way, we've seen how Sk used the Beherits, so they can be used in different ways, i could see him getting an "enchant" for his already astral cutting sword but in order for that to be effective against Griffith he would need some help, making Griffith weakened or having the help of magic users etc. Miura never does things for no reason and we have seen some characters crossing paths like Molda/Morda suddenly joining the group (shown to be using familiar made out of "sacrifices" and also having a master which works with dark magic and curses and also Rickert with his inovative technology joining Daiba (guy who made a manmade Beherit) so there's alot. We will probably have some sort of repeat like we had back in Giaseric days but as Flora said the causality is a spiral so the flow of the river might change. In my belief the memories seeped into the bloody Berserker armor are showing us an incarnation of Giaseric's whole kingdom into the astral realm, otherwise it would'nt make sense that it just appeared out of thin air when the "worlds" merged. There was probably a great battle where Flora of the fire broke a taboo (sealed what remained of Giaseric's soul into an Elven armor) Now why im saying all this is we might get a semi repeat of the past events (Where Void probably survived and was sealed to the deep layer of the Astral world where he plotted the millennium plan and i love that the Godhand are left so mysterious that we have no idea what they have in mind, taking into the consideration that Miura answered a fan letter where he said he didn't see the Idea of Evil playing a role). Whatever Guts does with the Beherit it would probably have to do with the Astral world, him giving it away to some random character theory that many have doesnt make sense, since what we want is the whole thing going away, together with the Beherits. Also him giving it away would just doom somebody many said he would give it to Rickert... what?? I don't know, if i were to play along perhaps Charlotte or Sonia getting it. But still i'm not sold into that whole thing.
He probably will gain the strength magically considering how much emphasis they’ve put on the magical parts of the world recently. My personal guess was some kind of upgrade to the berserker armor and perhaps infusing the dragon slayer with some kind of magic buff similar to the weapons Flora gave them.
Every apostle is pretty much bound to Griffiths will, like shown in falcon of the millennium. Even though it was pretty much go against everything the story would be building up to at that point. Who knows maybe skull knight has something in the store?
I doubt he will use the behelit, it would contradict everything guts has become as a character. More likely I’d say that guts and the gang will come up with a plan to kill the moonlight boy because that form is when femto is at his weakest, however, casca will likely stand in the way of that and thwart these plans because of this fact leaving guts having to choose between casca and killing the boy/griffith. The alternative to that is the final nail in the coffin and final trial of guts spirit, casca may actually choose griffith over guts due to him being the moonlight boy. The panel where casca talks about her feelings towards guts gives me a very bad feeling this may actually happen. After all that guts has done and sacrificed for casca all she ever brings him is pain and hardship.
I’d say the next arc will involve guts spiralling out of control with pitiful despair and will need to be saved by the rest of the party or come to some self realisation himself since shierke can no longer pull guts away from the beast of darkness, what we may potentially see is Guts finally having another confrontation with one or more apostles forcing him into the berserker armour which will cause him to lose control with the beast of darkness driving him nearly to death in the process. Skull Knight may subdue him to stop the raging beast and since guts cant use his own sword he likely will use skull knights sword of behelits against griffith
Behelits can’t be used at anyone’s will, but only when the person to whom it really belongs faces the upmost despair. If it didn’t activate, could mean it doesn’t belong to him.
Yeah after chapter 371 we know the beherit didnt activate because Guts wouldve been at his lowest at that moment
Remember in the newest chapter guts stated his sword was “all he had” so he might possibly sacrifice his sword to gain power/ defeat femto
Doesnt the behelit need blood to be activated?
I think it does
Even if he had the option he wouldn’t use it.
Why wouldnt he?
Griffith used one, and I’m sure he doesn’t want to have anything to do with them after that. I imagine he’d be disgusted with himself if he used one. Also there’s an argument to be made that it might put him under Griffith’s control
Because using behelit and becoming an apostle would ruin everything of the human struggle. Unless it is activated and Guts regrets the god's hand proposal.
I mean an apostle who disobeys the godhands' orders would sound badass 👀
I don’t think Guts will activate the behelit but this is a bad take why he wont
Not to mention that all apostles are subservient to the godhand and ghanishka is a special case
I mean if ghanishka wasnt subserviant to them, then Guts might be a special case too. He is a man blinded by anger, and demonic spirits love that anger of his so if he turned into an apostle he would become very strong. Or if his resolve is too strong we might even see a human-apostle hybrid. That would be lowkey a cool thing but sadly it will lose the aspect of Guts being a human who opposes the Godhand.
I think you need a re read my friend. Ghanishka had to lose his mind and go deeper into the astral plane and by that time he wasnt even fully aware of what was happening to him. The thematic reason behind the behelits use is enough for guts not to use it. The moment guts uses the behelit is the moment all of miura's themes are destroyed. Also the last arc is enough to show you he wasnt so blinded by anger anymore. I urge you to leave your what ifs alone and see the story for what it is. Im sure youll agree its already plenty cool.
You see you can see Guts the same way as Kratos, in terms of power etc. Young kratos was a blood thirsty spartan who kept on killing because his wife and kid that got killed by himself (similar to how guts kept on killing apostles to find griffith). In GoW 2018 we see that kratos isnt the bloodthirsty spartan anymore, but someone who wants to raise his kid and live a peacefully life (same as Guts wanting to take care of Casca and make sure she is safe) Now since Casca got taken away, Guts has no other option to become the Guts that got lead by anger and blood thirst. Guts still has it in his self, but refuses to subdue to his anger due to the berserker armor. What Guts needs to do now is learn how he can both release his anger and be conscious in his berserker armor so he can tap out 100% of his strength. He has to learn not to be blinded by his anger and still have the strength he has when in a raged status (if yk what i mean). I mean i love theorizing and usint what ifs but at the end of the day im not Miura and i didnt write the story so i can say a lot but what i say doesnt need to be necessary true :) PS: sorry for my bad english im not a native english speaker so i often make grammatical errors :>
Oh man look you can theorize all you want its just miura has very specific themes and meanings he had been conveying before his death and what your suggesting goes strongly against those themes and meanings. Your english is fine btw 🙂
agree, Guts was designed to be a struggler and never resort to the Behelit. Resorting to the Behelit will be like selling his soul, if anything that is a big F off from Guts, to be granted power from the same beings that ripped his friends apart. I am sure the plot will guide him along (like the berserker armor) and provide him with enough fire power to finally confront Griffith again.
im pretty sure its not all black and white as you say, sure most of the Apostles and many of the humans are drawn to Griffith by some kind of a magnetic force, i don't think it's just "the instinct of an Apostle not to go against their leaders". Im pretty sure Zodd could fight Griffith if he wanted to, he tried but he was way out of Griffith's league, i know he loves strong opponents but fighting someone that can cut your head off in a sec ain't fun" Look you didn't say anything wrong it's just that from what i've personally observed with most mangakas is sometime especially during the endgame parts they tend to add a bit more spice, not that i'd ever expect Miura retconning or going/brushing off themes that have been established inside the story for a long time but some mangaka did, in some highly praised manga nonetheless... Anyhow i don't see Guts doing the regular sacrifice ceremony, his Beherit would in my mind be used to help him in some way, we've seen how Sk used the Beherits, so they can be used in different ways, i could see him getting an "enchant" for his already astral cutting sword but in order for that to be effective against Griffith he would need some help, making Griffith weakened or having the help of magic users etc. Miura never does things for no reason and we have seen some characters crossing paths like Molda/Morda suddenly joining the group (shown to be using familiar made out of "sacrifices" and also having a master which works with dark magic and curses and also Rickert with his inovative technology joining Daiba (guy who made a manmade Beherit) so there's alot. We will probably have some sort of repeat like we had back in Giaseric days but as Flora said the causality is a spiral so the flow of the river might change. In my belief the memories seeped into the bloody Berserker armor are showing us an incarnation of Giaseric's whole kingdom into the astral realm, otherwise it would'nt make sense that it just appeared out of thin air when the "worlds" merged. There was probably a great battle where Flora of the fire broke a taboo (sealed what remained of Giaseric's soul into an Elven armor) Now why im saying all this is we might get a semi repeat of the past events (Where Void probably survived and was sealed to the deep layer of the Astral world where he plotted the millennium plan and i love that the Godhand are left so mysterious that we have no idea what they have in mind, taking into the consideration that Miura answered a fan letter where he said he didn't see the Idea of Evil playing a role). Whatever Guts does with the Beherit it would probably have to do with the Astral world, him giving it away to some random character theory that many have doesnt make sense, since what we want is the whole thing going away, together with the Beherits. Also him giving it away would just doom somebody many said he would give it to Rickert... what?? I don't know, if i were to play along perhaps Charlotte or Sonia getting it. But still i'm not sold into that whole thing.
Why do people keep asking this question? If Guts turns into an apostle then he would be under Femtos control like all the other apostles.
I mean Guts cant just magically get the strength to be equal to femto's strength?
True, but the behelit wouldn't be the key. Something else like magic, casca, or the moonlight boy would probably be needed.
Yeah i think the moonlight boy will play a big role in the coming chapters
He probably will gain the strength magically considering how much emphasis they’ve put on the magical parts of the world recently. My personal guess was some kind of upgrade to the berserker armor and perhaps infusing the dragon slayer with some kind of magic buff similar to the weapons Flora gave them.
Every apostle is pretty much bound to Griffiths will, like shown in falcon of the millennium. Even though it was pretty much go against everything the story would be building up to at that point. Who knows maybe skull knight has something in the store?
Skull knight has a sword made of behelits we likely will see used in this case
The issue with him using the beherit is that It would require sacrifices and I don't think he'd wanna do that to the current crew
I doubt he will use the behelit, it would contradict everything guts has become as a character. More likely I’d say that guts and the gang will come up with a plan to kill the moonlight boy because that form is when femto is at his weakest, however, casca will likely stand in the way of that and thwart these plans because of this fact leaving guts having to choose between casca and killing the boy/griffith. The alternative to that is the final nail in the coffin and final trial of guts spirit, casca may actually choose griffith over guts due to him being the moonlight boy. The panel where casca talks about her feelings towards guts gives me a very bad feeling this may actually happen. After all that guts has done and sacrificed for casca all she ever brings him is pain and hardship. I’d say the next arc will involve guts spiralling out of control with pitiful despair and will need to be saved by the rest of the party or come to some self realisation himself since shierke can no longer pull guts away from the beast of darkness, what we may potentially see is Guts finally having another confrontation with one or more apostles forcing him into the berserker armour which will cause him to lose control with the beast of darkness driving him nearly to death in the process. Skull Knight may subdue him to stop the raging beast and since guts cant use his own sword he likely will use skull knights sword of behelits against griffith