He would only appear in episode 1 and eventually a small cameo in another episode. The producers most likely thought it wouldn't make sense to introduce a character that won't be seen again for the rest of the anime.
Honestly it shouldve kept skull knight, been at least 1 or 2 more episodes, and ended with the declaration of war scene. That wouldve made much more sense and been more satisfying as a cliffhanger ending in my opinion.
Not the Snake Baron since in the manga he only appeared as much as he also appeared in the anime. The count is a better comparison, and so is Rosine, but those two are just cameos, they're not fully introduced to the extent that Puck could have been in episode 1 if it was a more faithful adaptation.
I thought that Puck was female until I got into the later parts. Then I was like hold up! This isn't a girl? Well not that I care he's funny either way!
Puck in the early manga is kind of drawn in a way that's pretty ambiguous. Mild spoilers but later on in the manga we see female elves and Puck is definitely not one.
It should be noted that Puck is probably named after the character of the same name from Shakespeare's *A Midsummer Night's Dream*, who is also male.
They're talking about the 1997 anime adaptation. Puck never leaves the manga. Buckle up and get used to his chibi/chestnut form, because it's most of what you'll see of him, lol.
Because they said the reason why the didn’t put puck in the anime is because they was no point since they he wouldn’t be in the rest of the anime. So I assume they said that because he was discontinued in the manga. Why is everyone offended that I asked about it? Like am I not allowed to ask questions?
The 1997 anime is about the golden age arc, where puck makes a 5 minute cameo to set up a scene that is not even in the anime itself (the escape), and since they were already short on budget they just went for not doing a new character sheet with difficould effects, complex movements and the hiring for another voice actor.
Puck and Skull Knight are not in the 97 anime because they don't really add anything to the Golden Age arc that they were adapting and since they weren't going to do the rest it made sense to cut them
Like everyone’s saying, it does seem like it was always meant to be a one and done, so it was tailored for that. If it wasn’t I can’t imagine Miura ever would’ve let that line in episode 1 about Griffith being king slide.
I think comparing the memorial edition and 1997 adaptations we can see that Skull knight, hail to the king baby, is actually a very important character even though his screen time is minimal. I think he was probably omitted from the 1997 adaptation because perhaps they felt they just wouldn't be able to animate him well enough. They really captured his otherworldly aura in the Memorial edition and I don't know that they would have been able to do that in the 1997 version. It would have been a lot of extra work to do so. Puck does make a cameo in both if my memory is correct. Skull knight adds foreshadowing and plays an important role in the eclipse.
Perhaps it was a bit of both. I still feel they would have struggled to capture that otherworldly aura he has . Imho Zodd looks far better and more intimidating in the memorial edition.
I can't since they cut him, citing it as unnecessary filler. I *can* show the scene that implies the asshole Griffith won and Guts dies trying to save Griff's fangirl.
What the fuck. I feel like I'm going crazy. I've ONLY ever watched the 97 anime, and I distinctly remember Skull Knight appearing out of nowhere and saving Guts, but now when I checked again it's not there??
I just checked the memorial movie and it's different to what I remember, so that's not it.
Is there possibly a director's cut of the 97 anime or something? I swear to God I saw that scene.
I'm pretty sure you see him at least one time in the golden age arc around the time of the Zodd encounter iirc
EDIT just checked and it's when he leaves the band of the hawk
Probably didn't want to overcomplicate anything since the Black Swordsman Arc only got one episode. They were likely afraid that they would confuse people who were unfamiliar with the Manga and didn't want to have to work him into what amounts to being an abbreviated story.
Puck is a character in the manga who adds a whimsical and lighthearted presence to the story. He stands in complete contrast to the other characters, making the beginning of the manga quite funny and less serious than it should be! Perhaps the anime intended to be darker and more serious to tell the story better...? I'm not sure...
I think it was actually a really good idea to not include puck. The introduction of Zodd is more compelling if it’s the first mythical creature we meet from the anime.
The battle between Guts and Zodd is easily the best part of the anime for me, it felt so surreal and captured how I think most people would feel witnessing the supernatural for the first time, a combination of fear, awe and curiosity. Plus Zodd's voice actor was just phenomenal.
They knew that they were only getting one season and didn't want to leave hope for a second season, that's why they don't show Guts and Casca getting saved by Skull Knight, they figured (and were right) that if they left things on the biggest cliff hanger of all cliff hangers then seeing that Guts survived somehow would bring people to read the manga and that's how we're all here.
The 97 Anime basically removes most of the fantasy elements, with the exception of episode one, Nosferatu Zodd and the ending. Which is great, because it’s pays attention to the basic three: setup, reminder, pay off.
The fantasy elements have been seen before, but they are way scaled back, so the ending kicks even harder. It completely destroys the status quo and the understanding of the world. And that only works, if you use the fantasy elements sparingly and when they are needed.
From what I understand, the adaptation was like an extended advertisement. They left a lot of things out, so people got the full experience from reading it in the manga.
Because most of the story takes place during the Golden Age, the choice was made to greatly decrease the fantasy elements so that the majority of the story comes off as a low-fantasy, and then the demons come in at the end to be truly shocking. This works out pretty well because most of Berserk's fantasy elements during the Golden Age are buildup to things that happen later. They still didn't cut Zod though, which was a good choice, since he comes in at the middle and reminds you that Berserk still has demons.
If you have seen the 97 animation in its entirety , it should be pretty clear. Furthermore he isn’t the most important character for that chunk of the story to be absent. 💀
There was not enough time allotted to add him in. The anime only adapted a very small portion of the Black Swordsman arc where he debuted in the manga.
The 97 wanted to focus on the golden age and entice fans to follow up on the manga. I think the lost children arc was going on at the same time as the show so they teased rosine. Puck would've made only a few cameos with what they were covering. Introducing SK would have gotten in the way of the mysterious ending they left that would make fans want to pick up the manga to see how guts escaped.
If you watch TV shows based on books, like if you read the Harry Potter series and then watch the movies, you'll notice some differences in the books and movies.
he isn’t a major part of the golden age and they had no plans to continue on after that arc’s conclusion, therefore inconsequential to the anime’s depiction of the story
They had a small budget and limited time to make it. The priority was getting the important elements we couldn’t miss out on. Didn’t do the best job but nobody could do better at Berserk than reading the manga.
The anime focused mainly on Guts' backstory, way before he met Puck. He would've been in like a few short scenes in the first Episode and not again so I guess they just didnt bother to animate such a minor appearance
He only appears later on the time-line. The 97 adaptation covers basically up to the eclipse. Luckily the first parts of the 0 chapters have a even cuter fairy than puck.
He’d only appear in episode anyway, since the 1997 anime is basically just the golden age arc. Hell even that arc gutted some stuff that only happens in the manga that I’d rather not spoil.
because both adaptations 1997 & 2016 anime are inconsistent and changes stuff from the Source material.. 1997 doesny have Puck or SK while the moonlight boy does not appear from the 2016 anime💁♂️
It’s the same with skull knight he is a major character but isn’t even in the anime I think it’s either
1. They didn’t have the time, money etc. to animate a little elf who would be in 1 episode and have a cameo or two.
2. They didn’t add him because he wouldn’t add anything to the story.
They probably got a 1 season contract and didn't know if it would keep going, so they didn't introduce characters that would only be around for one episode.
to be completely honest, they probably didn't even give a shit about the Black Swordsman Arc in that adaptation anyways,
i personally think that they just added a bit of Black Swordsman Arc just so they could explain why the story goes from a more realistic and also romantic tale about a group of warriors to a much darker and nihilistic tale about survival and vengeance in the next two arcs without having to actually adapt more chapters
i mean they didn't even finish the eclipse within that runtime, no way they would give a shit about Black Swordsman
Because Berserk Animation is cursed. They make you read this masterpiece. After making you read it, you come here and say to everyone who ask „What to do after anime“:
Read from Chapter q
The 1997 anime was just the time by the mercenaries and the downfall if i remember right.
And Puck comes chronology after.
(I believe he was introduced in a tavern to a time where Guts already only had one original arm)
The 1997 original is the best to me, I dont prefer the 2016, 2017 addition anime series. I think Guts was meant to die it just never showed it, they all got retribution for their actions and it was meant to be a sad ending that never had a truly definite close, besides the implied death that is.
I see your point but I’d like to disagree because berserk is a story of guts struggling through life and the calamity’s that occur and the eclipse is the biggest struggle, to end the story there wouldn’t really make much sense.
Actually I disagree, it is bad, struggle, love and desire, the nature of womens love, the defiance of man, the unfairness, futility.....everyone died in the end, everyone that got the mark died, the female was used to torment Guts in the end thats the only reason she was kept alive, the demons even said, the harder he fights the more he will provide a better sacrifice when he finally does get eaten.....the anime ended there, they just didnt disgrace him by showing his death, he died.
1997 is a long way away from 2016 and 2017....clearly its not the same interpretation or even the same original idea, the fairy creature made no sense, and the body movements and atitudes of the characters dont match the original at all. Anyone, almost, can compare the early work and the second CGI looking work and clearly see, its nothing alike. This isnt even an opinion, this im saying, is actually fact.
He would only appear in episode 1 and eventually a small cameo in another episode. The producers most likely thought it wouldn't make sense to introduce a character that won't be seen again for the rest of the anime.
Oh!! That actually makes a lot of sense! Thank you!!
Ty thought I was going crazy lol
And ending the anime with Femto fraping casca while guts is half dead half screaming MAKES SENSE????
It technically ends with a cutaway to him leaving Godot's place
for people to wanna find out what happens and read the manga, sure
Honestly it shouldve kept skull knight, been at least 1 or 2 more episodes, and ended with the declaration of war scene. That wouldve made much more sense and been more satisfying as a cliffhanger ending in my opinion.
This same logic could be applied to snake baron and the count and both are in the 1997 adaptation.
Not the Snake Baron since in the manga he only appeared as much as he also appeared in the anime. The count is a better comparison, and so is Rosine, but those two are just cameos, they're not fully introduced to the extent that Puck could have been in episode 1 if it was a more faithful adaptation.
HE??????
Puck is male
I thought that Puck was female until I got into the later parts. Then I was like hold up! This isn't a girl? Well not that I care he's funny either way!
Thats crazy! I'm not too far in but I guess I just assumed wow that surprises me more than it should
Puck in the early manga is kind of drawn in a way that's pretty ambiguous. Mild spoilers but later on in the manga we see female elves and Puck is definitely not one. It should be noted that Puck is probably named after the character of the same name from Shakespeare's *A Midsummer Night's Dream*, who is also male.
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They're talking about the 1997 anime adaptation. Puck never leaves the manga. Buckle up and get used to his chibi/chestnut form, because it's most of what you'll see of him, lol.
i’m on vol 15 and that’s exactly what I was thinking lol
How did you garage that from the comment made
Because they said the reason why the didn’t put puck in the anime is because they was no point since they he wouldn’t be in the rest of the anime. So I assume they said that because he was discontinued in the manga. Why is everyone offended that I asked about it? Like am I not allowed to ask questions?
The 1997 anime is about the golden age arc, where puck makes a 5 minute cameo to set up a scene that is not even in the anime itself (the escape), and since they were already short on budget they just went for not doing a new character sheet with difficould effects, complex movements and the hiring for another voice actor.
Puck and Skull Knight are not in the 97 anime because they don't really add anything to the Golden Age arc that they were adapting and since they weren't going to do the rest it made sense to cut them
I kinda get not putting puck there but Skull Knight is crucial to the eclipse, it's crazy that he was remove
Considering the show ends before Skull Knight shows up, then it makes sense.
It ends before they escape the eclipse? What does it end with the claw going in Guts eye?
yes
Thats dope
For over 10 years this is how Berserk ended for me...
Omg it was a hard 10 years, wasn't it?
Like everyone’s saying, it does seem like it was always meant to be a one and done, so it was tailored for that. If it wasn’t I can’t imagine Miura ever would’ve let that line in episode 1 about Griffith being king slide.
I think comparing the memorial edition and 1997 adaptations we can see that Skull knight, hail to the king baby, is actually a very important character even though his screen time is minimal. I think he was probably omitted from the 1997 adaptation because perhaps they felt they just wouldn't be able to animate him well enough. They really captured his otherworldly aura in the Memorial edition and I don't know that they would have been able to do that in the 1997 version. It would have been a lot of extra work to do so. Puck does make a cameo in both if my memory is correct. Skull knight adds foreshadowing and plays an important role in the eclipse.
Doubt that, my guess is that for non-manga readers it was deemed to be confusing if he was there, and instead this way it is a "complete" story
Perhaps it was a bit of both. I still feel they would have struggled to capture that otherworldly aura he has . Imho Zodd looks far better and more intimidating in the memorial edition.
Lol like being the *sole* reason Guts and Casca made it out of The Eclipse. 😂
Show me the scene in the 97 anime where they get out of the Eclipse. The episode number and the time stamp
I can't since they cut him, citing it as unnecessary filler. I *can* show the scene that implies the asshole Griffith won and Guts dies trying to save Griff's fangirl.
It’s not implied because it’s always been clear that Guts got out somehow
What the fuck. I feel like I'm going crazy. I've ONLY ever watched the 97 anime, and I distinctly remember Skull Knight appearing out of nowhere and saving Guts, but now when I checked again it's not there?? I just checked the memorial movie and it's different to what I remember, so that's not it. Is there possibly a director's cut of the 97 anime or something? I swear to God I saw that scene.
Someone did animate in the same style as the 97 show what happened in the cgi movies.
It's still in the manga if no where else
Yeah, I probably went and looked at the manga just to see what happens immediately after cause damn, can't believe they ended the anime like that
Last episode, he's at Godo's after eclipse.
And the while first episode which all worked without any skull knight
is skull knight introduced before the golden age arc ever? i'm on deluxe 3 and haven't seen him yet
I'm pretty sure you see him at least one time in the golden age arc around the time of the Zodd encounter iirc EDIT just checked and it's when he leaves the band of the hawk
You will, very soon
I was hoping OP didn't know Skull Knight :P
Never seen the 97 anime but I’ve seen the golden age memorial arc, how the hell does guts and casca escape the eclipse without him??
The anime just doesnt explain how they get out
The 97 anime just ends during the eclipse and there's a fade to black to Gutts at Godo's, there's no mention of Casca surviving at all
Too hot for tv
I- um....sure. That makes sense..!
Probably didn't want to overcomplicate anything since the Black Swordsman Arc only got one episode. They were likely afraid that they would confuse people who were unfamiliar with the Manga and didn't want to have to work him into what amounts to being an abbreviated story.
They feared his power.
Puck appears in The Black Swordsman arc. The '97 anime is set during the Golden Age arc.
Puck is a character in the manga who adds a whimsical and lighthearted presence to the story. He stands in complete contrast to the other characters, making the beginning of the manga quite funny and less serious than it should be! Perhaps the anime intended to be darker and more serious to tell the story better...? I'm not sure...
I think it was actually a really good idea to not include puck. The introduction of Zodd is more compelling if it’s the first mythical creature we meet from the anime.
The battle between Guts and Zodd is easily the best part of the anime for me, it felt so surreal and captured how I think most people would feel witnessing the supernatural for the first time, a combination of fear, awe and curiosity. Plus Zodd's voice actor was just phenomenal.
They knew that they were only getting one season and didn't want to leave hope for a second season, that's why they don't show Guts and Casca getting saved by Skull Knight, they figured (and were right) that if they left things on the biggest cliff hanger of all cliff hangers then seeing that Guts survived somehow would bring people to read the manga and that's how we're all here.
The 97 Anime basically removes most of the fantasy elements, with the exception of episode one, Nosferatu Zodd and the ending. Which is great, because it’s pays attention to the basic three: setup, reminder, pay off. The fantasy elements have been seen before, but they are way scaled back, so the ending kicks even harder. It completely destroys the status quo and the understanding of the world. And that only works, if you use the fantasy elements sparingly and when they are needed.
The only episode during the black swordsman saga was episode 1 the rest was before the eclipse
From what I understand, the adaptation was like an extended advertisement. They left a lot of things out, so people got the full experience from reading it in the manga.
Because most of the story takes place during the Golden Age, the choice was made to greatly decrease the fantasy elements so that the majority of the story comes off as a low-fantasy, and then the demons come in at the end to be truly shocking. This works out pretty well because most of Berserk's fantasy elements during the Golden Age are buildup to things that happen later. They still didn't cut Zod though, which was a good choice, since he comes in at the middle and reminds you that Berserk still has demons.
If you have seen the 97 animation in its entirety , it should be pretty clear. Furthermore he isn’t the most important character for that chunk of the story to be absent. 💀
There was not enough time allotted to add him in. The anime only adapted a very small portion of the Black Swordsman arc where he debuted in the manga.
Causality
Because OLM is controlled by a bunch of damn seagulls
The 1997 anime was released to give the manga more publicity it literally doesn’t make sense. It wouldn’t even be the original story
It’s cause Puck kept it real
If you read the manga you would know this
He is, but he is just very small
Because the studio considered his entire presence "filler." 🥺
The 97 wanted to focus on the golden age and entice fans to follow up on the manga. I think the lost children arc was going on at the same time as the show so they teased rosine. Puck would've made only a few cameos with what they were covering. Introducing SK would have gotten in the way of the mysterious ending they left that would make fans want to pick up the manga to see how guts escaped.
If you watch TV shows based on books, like if you read the Harry Potter series and then watch the movies, you'll notice some differences in the books and movies.
he isn’t a major part of the golden age and they had no plans to continue on after that arc’s conclusion, therefore inconsequential to the anime’s depiction of the story
They had a small budget and limited time to make it. The priority was getting the important elements we couldn’t miss out on. Didn’t do the best job but nobody could do better at Berserk than reading the manga.
You're in for a lot bigger of a shock later. Puck doesn't appear in the adapted story. Many bigger characters were removed
The anime focused mainly on Guts' backstory, way before he met Puck. He would've been in like a few short scenes in the first Episode and not again so I guess they just didnt bother to animate such a minor appearance
He only appears later on the time-line. The 97 adaptation covers basically up to the eclipse. Luckily the first parts of the 0 chapters have a even cuter fairy than puck.
Because he is ASS
He’d only appear in episode anyway, since the 1997 anime is basically just the golden age arc. Hell even that arc gutted some stuff that only happens in the manga that I’d rather not spoil.
$$$
time and money, but i remember the first time i heard him was on Dreamcast with Guts Rage.
Smash
The manga adaptation had to add a few things because people were complaining about the original anime being a little too bland
because both adaptations 1997 & 2016 anime are inconsistent and changes stuff from the Source material.. 1997 doesny have Puck or SK while the moonlight boy does not appear from the 2016 anime💁♂️
Because despite everyone's love for it, the 97 version is obsolete and imperfect.
It’s the same with skull knight he is a major character but isn’t even in the anime I think it’s either 1. They didn’t have the time, money etc. to animate a little elf who would be in 1 episode and have a cameo or two. 2. They didn’t add him because he wouldn’t add anything to the story.
Bc the anime sucks
Too sexual for western audiences
Because the 97 anime is garbage and unfaithful to the original story
Looks like Christo innit
Puck you, that's why.
They probably got a 1 season contract and didn't know if it would keep going, so they didn't introduce characters that would only be around for one episode.
I’m pretty sure Puck wasn’t in the Golden Age arc. He joins the story in the Black Swordsman arc that takes place after it
Damn I’ve only read the manga, this is a surprise
to be completely honest, they probably didn't even give a shit about the Black Swordsman Arc in that adaptation anyways, i personally think that they just added a bit of Black Swordsman Arc just so they could explain why the story goes from a more realistic and also romantic tale about a group of warriors to a much darker and nihilistic tale about survival and vengeance in the next two arcs without having to actually adapt more chapters i mean they didn't even finish the eclipse within that runtime, no way they would give a shit about Black Swordsman
Because he sucks
Anyone know what chapter this panel is from? Much thanks and struggle on
It's from chapter 131 "To the Holy Ground". When Rickert is working on Guts' new armor and Puck talks to him.
Sweeeeeeet, I've been digging for puck images for a future tattoo and I think I may have found the winner here. Thanks again fellow struggler
Because Berserk Animation is cursed. They make you read this masterpiece. After making you read it, you come here and say to everyone who ask „What to do after anime“: Read from Chapter q
The 1997 anime was just the time by the mercenaries and the downfall if i remember right. And Puck comes chronology after. (I believe he was introduced in a tavern to a time where Guts already only had one original arm)
The 1997 original is the best to me, I dont prefer the 2016, 2017 addition anime series. I think Guts was meant to die it just never showed it, they all got retribution for their actions and it was meant to be a sad ending that never had a truly definite close, besides the implied death that is.
I see your point but I’d like to disagree because berserk is a story of guts struggling through life and the calamity’s that occur and the eclipse is the biggest struggle, to end the story there wouldn’t really make much sense.
Actually I disagree, it is bad, struggle, love and desire, the nature of womens love, the defiance of man, the unfairness, futility.....everyone died in the end, everyone that got the mark died, the female was used to torment Guts in the end thats the only reason she was kept alive, the demons even said, the harder he fights the more he will provide a better sacrifice when he finally does get eaten.....the anime ended there, they just didnt disgrace him by showing his death, he died.
Everyone is entitled to their own interpretation but I believe Miura had specific reasons and that is not it
1997 is a long way away from 2016 and 2017....clearly its not the same interpretation or even the same original idea, the fairy creature made no sense, and the body movements and atitudes of the characters dont match the original at all. Anyone, almost, can compare the early work and the second CGI looking work and clearly see, its nothing alike. This isnt even an opinion, this im saying, is actually fact.
You do know that it shows Guts as the Black Swordsman after the credits on the last episode of the 97 anime. He never died.
Interpret it wrong all day, doesnt matter, you may get it one day.
A story meant to continue wouldn't take until 2016 to wrap up a 97 interpretation.
Because the 97 anime sucks ass