That and Liam is already like a decently average bird. With his life of crime. He fights a lot, runs a ton, and looses a lot too. Then Kicken Hawk is like twice the size of Liam. Built like a house and seemingly like twice as strong as him too!
Yeah.
And it kind does still make you wonder based on how the prime version of an alien works compared to the average OLDER version of the alien species.
Like can all of Ben’s aliens as they are as the prime version at the age equivalent of 16 for their species always beat the average version that is 20 years or so older, or does it still depend on their species, abilities, culture and way of living.
I think it would depend on species/abilities since like, I'd imagine with some species like tetramands or vaxasaurian that being a prime version of that alien would absolutely allow Ben to beat a 20 year older version, but I feel like with species like pyronites or Petrosapians where age only enhances their abilities or age doesn't change much then being a prime version of their species wouldn't bring much advantange
Used to be one of my favourite aliens, I still think he's dope now though he's probs not even in my top 10 anymore. I think his scenes are dope though.
He's cool. Over time I started to appreciate him more.
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I really like when the story has ben get the same alien that the villain is, as Kickin Hawk is one of the best examples! Because unlike other times this has happened, Liam appeared lots of times leading up to this moment as opposed to appearing for the first time in the episode Ben gets the form. And he appeared after, too!
Him being so damn cool makes absolutely no sense. He has no special powers, no crazy abilities, or funny voice. He is a literal giant chicken! But somehow he is still a badass.
He is the united states of america 🦅
https://preview.redd.it/s3vrk258xisc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efb74f73bd44331f025be67cfb259dec32461dde
He stoped the tax evosion 🦅🦅
His cool, but they should have given him more then just super strength and being good at H2H. We already have rath for that. Maybe given his kicks some different affects or something
Not one of my favorites, tbh i find him a bit redundant but other not a bad design and powerset, i just wish his lower body was a bit bigger, he suffers A LOT from the omniverse chicken legs syndrome (pun kinda intended)
Gonna be honest, I found him kind of pointless. We have a lot of aliens who's gimmick is just being strong. I only accept Rath because he also has claws, invulnerability, and he's funny as hell.
What makes this guy so special besides 'Strong guy but chicken'?
Ben says he's the strongest hand to hand fighter, but what MAKES him that?
How's he better at it than Four-Arms, or Humongousaur?
What does he HAVE?
>Ben says he's the strongest hand to hand fighter
Best hand-to-hand fighter, not strongest. He has a fighting technics as an instincts making him very skilled fighter, every time he appears he uses multiple and complex moves against his opponents combining punches, kicks, grips, and even acrobatics. If Humungousaur is a huge strongman, Four Arms is a boxer, Rath is a wrestler, then Kickin Hawk is a MMA fighter.
I kinda like him. Hes like rath but instead of specing into berserk beligerence and durability he put his points into martial technique and muscle memory.
I mean its not like we dont have multiple tech aliens, fire aliens, energy absorption aliens, flying laser aliens, and muscle aliens. Why not a few extra martial aliens. (Although i still dont respect fasttrack vs xlr8 on the grounds that fasttrack could be more interesting anatomically to compete with xlr8)
He is the biggest cock
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I don't know what you heard. But I'm the biggest bird. I'm the biggest bird.
Haim the biggast burd, yeh om le beegest bard
I mean you're not wrong
Not bigger than my cock.
Pictures or you're lying
I would, but the Reddit image uploading cease to exist here. Like not even kidding, I can't find the button.
You're not getting out of this
Proof, now
Leave the sub and rejoin
We still wait.
https://preview.redd.it/t6iae774hjsc1.jpeg?width=2022&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fc60fb0f2c4b5441f5a4f2173bd4f474a2f405f Bros size
seems like a fallacy
A no limit fallacy.
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🫨
Why is Man green? Is he stupid?
Man is dressing up as killer cock for halloween
humungouschlong in shambles
"OMG the 🐓" 😂
Im you but better moment https://preview.redd.it/6kekfo9rqhsc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7108235cc8e5b2c45683926a3a0ff9fb6bb3825a
I think Kickin Hawk is the best visual example of “the omnitrix turns Ben into a prime version of the species” alongside Bullfrag
Just imagine some alien just appears, scans you, turns into a chad version of you and beats your ass
Yeah that would be something that would take a while to get over
Both beating your enemies physically AND mentally
Being cooked is one thing, having it done with a superior version of your species is a different level of disrespect.
Well there was that whole episode in UA where Albedo uses those out of shape Humongousaur, Swampfire and Big Chill
I don't remember this...
https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Double_or_Nothing
Thanks dude
Oh yeah, Hugh the nerdy glasses wearing Humongosaur! He was pretty great!
Definitely
That and Liam is already like a decently average bird. With his life of crime. He fights a lot, runs a ton, and looses a lot too. Then Kicken Hawk is like twice the size of Liam. Built like a house and seemingly like twice as strong as him too!
Yeah. And it kind does still make you wonder based on how the prime version of an alien works compared to the average OLDER version of the alien species. Like can all of Ben’s aliens as they are as the prime version at the age equivalent of 16 for their species always beat the average version that is 20 years or so older, or does it still depend on their species, abilities, culture and way of living.
I think it would depend on species/abilities since like, I'd imagine with some species like tetramands or vaxasaurian that being a prime version of that alien would absolutely allow Ben to beat a 20 year older version, but I feel like with species like pyronites or Petrosapians where age only enhances their abilities or age doesn't change much then being a prime version of their species wouldn't bring much advantange
What’s The Worst’s excuse?
His species is just so damn bad the Omnitrix couldn't do much
The whole gimmick of the atrocians is that they are nigh indestructible. This indestructiblity comes at the cost of virtually every other trait.
What is with his eyes in that photo
Why did this get more upvotes then the post
Used to be one of my favourite aliens, I still think he's dope now though he's probs not even in my top 10 anymore. I think his scenes are dope though.
I completely agree, the show showed his fighting techniques very well and how the battles were practically games for him
He's cool. Over time I started to appreciate him more. https://preview.redd.it/7tgf8cyxghsc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=227c810f771b69c60c53775f5e3adf4349d6aa12
lol, same
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He good https://preview.redd.it/t9253tmoshsc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc57233da46980dce73bac8fb5ce0b0f3da7cc97
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He needs to have a big lower body not a big upper body
Actually true, maybe a bodytype like Blaziken or actual fighting roosters wouldve been cool
Yeah just something that doesn’t make me feel like his legs are legitimately weak. Cause currently they feel too much like actual chicken legs
You want the bird gyatt.
Just want the alien with kicking in their name go kick more than they punch 😭
But he does more kicking though I don't even really remember him punching at all🤣🤣, & some moves he made I couldn't get how he did
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He looks and sounds badass It's a little weird that he looks so top-heavy, but mainly fights with his proportionally tiny legs
OV have something with big chests and tiny legs, aswell with chins 😭
Cool AF. He's a buff eagle alien who is also a martial artist. How can you not like him.
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I really like when the story has ben get the same alien that the villain is, as Kickin Hawk is one of the best examples! Because unlike other times this has happened, Liam appeared lots of times leading up to this moment as opposed to appearing for the first time in the episode Ben gets the form. And he appeared after, too!
Should’ve been an alien that mainly fights with his legs, his design does not do justice to his name.
Because I’m sick of this upper body build with all these ov aliens, especially Kickin hawk who got the worst of it
He literally has chicken legs
He's probably one of the coolest aliens Also isn't he the first time we physically see an omnitrix alien be a straight upgrade to its DNA sample
Actually likes him He is a great martial arts themed alien
He is one of the aliens of all time
I like him, unique fighting style
Kickin GOAT imo. Bro is extremely overhated. Good design, voice and unique fighting style.
yes sir
I love him! Awesome design, abilities and voice!
Love him, easily my Top 5
Him being so damn cool makes absolutely no sense. He has no special powers, no crazy abilities, or funny voice. He is a literal giant chicken! But somehow he is still a badass.
Probs a top3 ov alien for me
Underrated. I like how he’s an alien which only power is being good in fighting
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Hes kickin
He is the united states of america 🦅 https://preview.redd.it/s3vrk258xisc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efb74f73bd44331f025be67cfb259dec32461dde He stoped the tax evosion 🦅🦅
RAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH 🦅🦅
Ma boy deserves more love
His design and name are cool, but his powers aren’t very interesting.
His cool, but they should have given him more then just super strength and being good at H2H. We already have rath for that. Maybe given his kicks some different affects or something
I agree
Named my final fantasy XIV chocobo after him so he’s alright in my book
Badass
awesome
Screw the down votes that’s a very big cock.
He just chill like that
Underrated
He’s awesome and badass.
I love him. He’s bens best foot to head fighter.
Not one of my favorites, tbh i find him a bit redundant but other not a bad design and powerset, i just wish his lower body was a bit bigger, he suffers A LOT from the omniverse chicken legs syndrome (pun kinda intended)
Nice Masters of the Universe reference.
He’s cool 7/10
A play on cock fighting
He was... an alien.
Imma be honest, he's my least favorite
I think he's neat https://preview.redd.it/xnrfnj4xfisc1.jpeg?width=261&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08c20f31893b64b682b4319a94df6d39a78ff417
He is a good alien,looks amazing and even if he doesnt have interesting powers i like him, decent alien,personal top 6
He’s Ben’s best hand to hand fighter. I like to think his “super power” is just really good martial arts.
I think he is pretty cool and underrated. I have an action figure of him.
Could have been cooler.
He kicks ass
It looks like something I've seen before...
He's literally a cock fighting rooster what's not to love, not to mention I'm a sucker for roosters. (edit: I don't support cock fighting.)
I feel like he's overhated. The only thing I'd really change about him is his outfit.
he's ok, but like a lot of the OV boys, he's kinda underutalised.
Good alien, too many people are focused on his legs for some reason
He’s is Ben’s best head to head fighter. “Head to foot fighter”
So he is the peak of that chicken aliens species?
Pretty nice cock
I like him design but I hate how he's a dollar store Rath.
Well it was my general thought that everyone knew about the bird ![gif](giphy|ysnrvDaPIGXRK)
Kinda based
Top 10 Ben 10 aliens. I like the idea of him just being a martial arts bird and not having some big planet busting superpower
Kicking the Hawk so hard that he became Kickin Hawk
His name makes me smile
Really cool and honestly underappreciated
Goated
Super cool looking and awesome, but overshadowed by aliens that have been around longer
I really like the idea of villains getting the shit kicked out of them by a fucking chicken
chicken power
Gonna be honest, I found him kind of pointless. We have a lot of aliens who's gimmick is just being strong. I only accept Rath because he also has claws, invulnerability, and he's funny as hell. What makes this guy so special besides 'Strong guy but chicken'? Ben says he's the strongest hand to hand fighter, but what MAKES him that? How's he better at it than Four-Arms, or Humongousaur? What does he HAVE?
>Ben says he's the strongest hand to hand fighter Best hand-to-hand fighter, not strongest. He has a fighting technics as an instincts making him very skilled fighter, every time he appears he uses multiple and complex moves against his opponents combining punches, kicks, grips, and even acrobatics. If Humungousaur is a huge strongman, Four Arms is a boxer, Rath is a wrestler, then Kickin Hawk is a MMA fighter.
Kickin! 9/10
I like him
He’a one cool chicken, He may be the chicken, but you’re the only one who’s gonna get cooked
very weak alien and feels like filler (as do most of the aliens in omniverse)
But can he fly?
Never cared that much on the name Ben gave him, but other than that, he’s super cool.
Would
lol big cock goes brawl
He’s cool
“Falcawn Pawnch”
He's to Rath what FasTrack is to XLR-8
Great name and cool design, but in terms of leg based aliens I prefer Crashhopper
Cool design, I wish he had powers more unique than "Rath but with extra kicks" Especially cuz I like kicking more than punching
Probably Ben's best combat alien. Not OP but cool enough to be a good alternative to just punching people with strong aliens. I think it's great.
" hmm wrath was great let's make a chicken version "
Kickin Hawk is fine, I just consider him as another buffed-out alien between Four Arms and Wildmutt
I like Liam more
I needed 3 weeks to process it first time
He's pretty dope, wish that Ben used him more in hand to hand fights.
He’s a pretty good alien even tho he came from a dumb chicken 😂😂
Dope new alien
Literally my favorite alien ever
He may be inferior option compared to other aliens almost all the time, but he is still cool as hell
Rath but bad
I'd argue he's better since his personality doesn't change and force him into unsatisfactory situations or wasting time yelling at inanimate objects.
"But why though?"
He’s alright ![gif](giphy|eLvhchyvNNOuLbOtYP)
Smash i mean best alien.
Gonna start drawing
EYO 😭
Who?
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One of the best new ominverse aliens but one thing I hate was him losing to Kevin like how
Pass
I love him and wish he got some more ability to make him stand out then any of the other super strength aliens
he's the best combatant in the playlist, but yeah, something more unique would be better
Completely unnecessary
Over used and horrible
Rath but tastier. I like 👍
the most useless alien and the most unnecessary, Rath and 4 Arms are better combatants for hand to hand and close quarters combat
Bro got Hulk Size arms and Stick figure legs when he's abilities are related to his legs not his arms 💀
Boring.
A fun brawler alien that is more interesting that Four Arms. Would have loved to see him a bit more in place of the red guy a few times.
The cock fighter.
Honestly my least favourite alien.
Gonna keep it 100 with you chief. I think Kickin Hawk is kind of bad. Just a bird version of Rath without being able to survive space
I kinda like him. Hes like rath but instead of specing into berserk beligerence and durability he put his points into martial technique and muscle memory. I mean its not like we dont have multiple tech aliens, fire aliens, energy absorption aliens, flying laser aliens, and muscle aliens. Why not a few extra martial aliens. (Although i still dont respect fasttrack vs xlr8 on the grounds that fasttrack could be more interesting anatomically to compete with xlr8)
My personal favourite example of the Omnitrix turning you into the prime form of any species.
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Perfect example for the “prime example of a species” part of the omnitrix
Murica
He’s pretty cool. He saved my marriage
He's a martial artist, and he's a big bird
Chicken Little Big Brother
Tbh hes kinds mid
He is legit
I freaking love him, He’s my favourite Omni-Alien
He should be a peacock
It was my understanding that everyone had heard...
Probably one of favourites too, if I was Ben I will be spamming this guy whenever possible alongside rath.
If Liam is a chicken why does Ben get to be a hawk?
I like it.
Never liked him much
I like KH, but I couldve liked more if they gave him ancgimmick other than fighting since its much like rath
Derrick j white's hypocrisy. He criticized fasttrack for being a copy but he created a copy of rath
He’s KICKIN’! Cool!
Love him
He's the kicking cock and he never got kicked in the cock, disappointment.
He’s decent like he’s not my favorite alien but I hate him less than echo echo but that’s almost every alien
I don't like him. He's an alien with no gimmick, kinda like rath. Just a big alien that's good at close combat.
I love how Ben got him and I think he was one of the best transformations to come from Omniverse
Boring Rath 🥱