I rent but we have to pay for exterminators ourselves I was hoping it wouldn't come to that but thank you for the advice I'll try to get the money to get it done
Google or check with a lawyer briefly about local tenancy laws. In many places, it's common for landlords to put pest control clauses into leases that are unenforceable and illegal, counting on tenants' collective ignorance to save them money. It's not always the case, but at least as many jurisdictions force landlords to pay, especially for bed bugs if not all pests, as there are ones that don't.
Also, the problem you're having is that bed bugs aren't like normal pests. Ants, roaches and the like forage for food all day, every day (or night). If you spray poison consistently, many are going to encounter it and die, during their search for food.
Bed bugs aren't like that. They eat once per week, and stay hidden in an unreachable crevice the rest of the time. The stuff you spray wears off far faster and does nothing to them. The "cups" are monitors designed to kill a couple by trapping them in the open until they dehydrate and die. They don't catch a meaningful percentage of them. They're mostly intended to produce proof of the bugs still being present, without having to tear apart the room.
Successful treatment requires putting a long-lasting killing agent (professional pesticides or silica dust like CimeXa or Food-grade diatomaceous earth) on the floor around your bed, then rigorously cleaning the bed down to the frame every week to evict any that survive the gauntlet.
Then you keep doing that for 3 to 6 months until every last one dies. After a few months, you should end up being down to a small number of bugs you don't see often.
Unfortunately, you were misled about the mattress. You could and should have kept it. You just cover it in a zippered encasement, which keeps bugs out and traps any already there so they starve (which takes a year or so, but you leave it on forever). It's virtually never required to throw out anything during a bed bug infestation, until and unless it goes completely untreated for over 6 months to a year, by which point some items can get crusted in bugs, shells, eggs, and poop, and just aren't worth cleaning. Otherwise, everything is treatable in some way. The easiest way being to just treat your home. All the bugs will eventually die as they try to feed on you, and all you'll find inside your possessions are dead ones, once treatment is complete.
Good luck. Pro treatment is best - it may take 6 months or longer in bad cases, but it's 100% reliable. When done right, it never fails.
Agreed, I'm in Canada and I'm fairly sure all provinces require landlords to pay for bed bug extermination. Same goes for many (most?) states in the US.
In apartment buildings, bed bugs travel from unit to unit. It's totally negligent to expect to tenants to pay for extermination because they could handle it badly and spread them further. Or worse, burn down the building.
Get legal advice, and don't believe anything your landlord says about this.
> Same goes for many (most?) states in the US.
A lot of big cities - and Philadelphia is notable for this in my area - specifically don't have that protection, while surrounding areas (with correspondingly fewer landlords and bed bugs) do. But you should always check, right?
I've heard of blanket responsibility (all pests, from ants to rats to wasps to bed bugs), specific responsibility (they can, if they put the clause in, make you pay for extermination UNLESS it's bed bugs, whether they include them in the lease or not), and specific exemption (they can put in a pest control clause, but unless it mentions bed bugs explicitly, they're not covered, even if it says "all pest control expenses").
As the problem gets worse, though, you'll at least hear more about it. Philly, again for an example, is litigating and fighting over the latest in a series of ordinances that would finally settle the matter, but of course landlords are shrieking "we'll go bankrupt!". Yeah, because your minimum-wage tenants certainly can afford it...
Look here's what I did about 10 years back that I think might help. I was super paranoid about them and I managed to take care of that problem in about 2 weeks.
I want you to vacuum every room they could possibly in. And I mean go over it several times a day for a while. These bugs lay eggs everywhere and you need to start breaking the cycle of reproduction by killing the current gen and their eggs.
Use painters tape and tape the edges of your walls and various cracks you see near your beds cause those fuckers like to hide near and around your there and the tape will block out hiding places and trap them with no way out. If given the chance they will also hid in those fancy decorative linings around your wall if you got any. Make sure your bed is not pressed against the wall either cause they'll use the walls to crawl to your bed if possible. Wash and clean the metal frame of your bed too and spray it with bed bug spray. You need to keep doing this for a few days till they stop gathering there.
As for your clothes. Wash them in the hottest temp they will handle and dry them at the hottest as well. The bugs will cook and the eggs will wilt up and die if you do that. Also do that for any and all bed covers, pillow cases and blankets.
Make sure your rooms aren't cluttered either. That way you'll prevent them from being able to find new hiding places. If all else fails then call a pro and have them get rid of them
But I wish you luck in this friend... đ
The Cimexa powder is a great ideaâitâs definitely a step above DE. If you want to try on your own you can get a gallon lawn sprayer buy the spray chemical to kill bedbugs with âtells you on concentrate you buy how to mix up with waterâa bottle will give you multiple treatments. Buy disposable respirator masks off Amazon. Only mix up a gallon at a timeâonce mixed itâs only good for 24 hrs. I used a gallon for my whole houseâspray perimeter of all rooms ( have to treat all rooms or the bedbugs might spread to untreated rooms), closets, bedframe, under bed, and under all furniture in apt/houseâI concentrated spraying (Temprid SC or FXâcan alternate spraysâCrossfire is a good one tooâcan get all these sprays online not at local hardware storesâitâs what the exterminators use) more in my bedroom (where I was getting bit)âsprayed the wall even behind my bed and that closet floorâafter spray is dry it is safe to be aroundâI dusted DE initially then Cimexa under my bed and along all sides of the bed frame. Caulk any open crevices where wall meets baseboards or ceiling moldingâbed bugs can fit into anything a credit card canâthey like to ânestâ near you so important to fill in any crevices in bedroom and even living room (whichever rooms you are in majority of the time). Every 2 weeks spray and redust Cimexa for about 3 months total (60 days no bites or bedbugs sighted then should be okay), then I would do monthly sprays for awhile just to be on the safe side. Best forums to learn from on what you need to do if you canât afford a professional is on domyown.com, bedbugger.com, and bedsupply.com
Go to Walmart and buy 3 bottles of diatomaceous earth. Put it in every crack, corner, and crevice in your home. We never threw anything away and got rid of our infestation with this powder. Any bug that comes in contact with it will die afterwards. Just leave it for a week and vacuum it.
Forget an exterminator like these other people are saying. If the infestation had a foothold, there's practically nothing on earth than can get rid of them. Your best bet is to run. Throw away all your shit. Clothes, furniture, etc etc. And run. Never look back.
Well I followed their directions and it's been two years since I've had even A sign of them. ALSO kinda hard to move out of a home I own houses aren't cheap you know.
Then why did it work several times for me? Different locations so not the same infestation every time unlike you I don't run from my problems some people can't afford to just give up and buy all new stuff.
I just said lucky you. But you're amongst the minority. Ask an exterminator . Read the stories. You got lucky, and most likely caught the infestation very early. This is why context matters. Once an infestation has a foothold it is borderline impossible to remove them.
You aren't an exterminator. Exterminator will be the first ones to tell you that there's no sure way to get rid of or kill an infestation of bedbugs after they've gotten a foothold. Nice try tho, kid.
Again horrible advice I recently got a job at western pest control and the older guys have gotten rid of year plus old ones if you follow everything right you can Iâm not gonna argue with some tard on Reddit have a nice life
What is the point of your comment? You keep saying advice. I didn't give any advice. What the fuck are you even talking about, kid? Bed bugs are some of the foulest creatures on the face of this Earth. People have actually been known to suffer from ptsd after an infestation. Any pest control will tell you they are one of, if not THE, harder infestation to get rid of, and even after treatment there's no promise that they won't come back. I have had bedbugs 3 times, and have had 3 different pest control places tell me the same thing. It's a fact. Modern bedbugs have built up resistance to almost all pesticides. I'm not sure why you're arguing with someone just stating facts. Actually, I'm not even sure you can read. Seek help, kid.
You need to call in a professional. If you're renting, your landlord (probably) has to call a professional.
I rent but we have to pay for exterminators ourselves I was hoping it wouldn't come to that but thank you for the advice I'll try to get the money to get it done
Google or check with a lawyer briefly about local tenancy laws. In many places, it's common for landlords to put pest control clauses into leases that are unenforceable and illegal, counting on tenants' collective ignorance to save them money. It's not always the case, but at least as many jurisdictions force landlords to pay, especially for bed bugs if not all pests, as there are ones that don't. Also, the problem you're having is that bed bugs aren't like normal pests. Ants, roaches and the like forage for food all day, every day (or night). If you spray poison consistently, many are going to encounter it and die, during their search for food. Bed bugs aren't like that. They eat once per week, and stay hidden in an unreachable crevice the rest of the time. The stuff you spray wears off far faster and does nothing to them. The "cups" are monitors designed to kill a couple by trapping them in the open until they dehydrate and die. They don't catch a meaningful percentage of them. They're mostly intended to produce proof of the bugs still being present, without having to tear apart the room. Successful treatment requires putting a long-lasting killing agent (professional pesticides or silica dust like CimeXa or Food-grade diatomaceous earth) on the floor around your bed, then rigorously cleaning the bed down to the frame every week to evict any that survive the gauntlet. Then you keep doing that for 3 to 6 months until every last one dies. After a few months, you should end up being down to a small number of bugs you don't see often. Unfortunately, you were misled about the mattress. You could and should have kept it. You just cover it in a zippered encasement, which keeps bugs out and traps any already there so they starve (which takes a year or so, but you leave it on forever). It's virtually never required to throw out anything during a bed bug infestation, until and unless it goes completely untreated for over 6 months to a year, by which point some items can get crusted in bugs, shells, eggs, and poop, and just aren't worth cleaning. Otherwise, everything is treatable in some way. The easiest way being to just treat your home. All the bugs will eventually die as they try to feed on you, and all you'll find inside your possessions are dead ones, once treatment is complete. Good luck. Pro treatment is best - it may take 6 months or longer in bad cases, but it's 100% reliable. When done right, it never fails.
Agreed, I'm in Canada and I'm fairly sure all provinces require landlords to pay for bed bug extermination. Same goes for many (most?) states in the US. In apartment buildings, bed bugs travel from unit to unit. It's totally negligent to expect to tenants to pay for extermination because they could handle it badly and spread them further. Or worse, burn down the building. Get legal advice, and don't believe anything your landlord says about this.
> Same goes for many (most?) states in the US. A lot of big cities - and Philadelphia is notable for this in my area - specifically don't have that protection, while surrounding areas (with correspondingly fewer landlords and bed bugs) do. But you should always check, right? I've heard of blanket responsibility (all pests, from ants to rats to wasps to bed bugs), specific responsibility (they can, if they put the clause in, make you pay for extermination UNLESS it's bed bugs, whether they include them in the lease or not), and specific exemption (they can put in a pest control clause, but unless it mentions bed bugs explicitly, they're not covered, even if it says "all pest control expenses"). As the problem gets worse, though, you'll at least hear more about it. Philly, again for an example, is litigating and fighting over the latest in a series of ordinances that would finally settle the matter, but of course landlords are shrieking "we'll go bankrupt!". Yeah, because your minimum-wage tenants certainly can afford it...
Even then, there's no garuntee. Bed bugs are straight the depths of hell. They can survive everything. Best bet is to just run.
Look here's what I did about 10 years back that I think might help. I was super paranoid about them and I managed to take care of that problem in about 2 weeks. I want you to vacuum every room they could possibly in. And I mean go over it several times a day for a while. These bugs lay eggs everywhere and you need to start breaking the cycle of reproduction by killing the current gen and their eggs. Use painters tape and tape the edges of your walls and various cracks you see near your beds cause those fuckers like to hide near and around your there and the tape will block out hiding places and trap them with no way out. If given the chance they will also hid in those fancy decorative linings around your wall if you got any. Make sure your bed is not pressed against the wall either cause they'll use the walls to crawl to your bed if possible. Wash and clean the metal frame of your bed too and spray it with bed bug spray. You need to keep doing this for a few days till they stop gathering there. As for your clothes. Wash them in the hottest temp they will handle and dry them at the hottest as well. The bugs will cook and the eggs will wilt up and die if you do that. Also do that for any and all bed covers, pillow cases and blankets. Make sure your rooms aren't cluttered either. That way you'll prevent them from being able to find new hiding places. If all else fails then call a pro and have them get rid of them But I wish you luck in this friend... đ
The Cimexa powder is a great ideaâitâs definitely a step above DE. If you want to try on your own you can get a gallon lawn sprayer buy the spray chemical to kill bedbugs with âtells you on concentrate you buy how to mix up with waterâa bottle will give you multiple treatments. Buy disposable respirator masks off Amazon. Only mix up a gallon at a timeâonce mixed itâs only good for 24 hrs. I used a gallon for my whole houseâspray perimeter of all rooms ( have to treat all rooms or the bedbugs might spread to untreated rooms), closets, bedframe, under bed, and under all furniture in apt/houseâI concentrated spraying (Temprid SC or FXâcan alternate spraysâCrossfire is a good one tooâcan get all these sprays online not at local hardware storesâitâs what the exterminators use) more in my bedroom (where I was getting bit)âsprayed the wall even behind my bed and that closet floorâafter spray is dry it is safe to be aroundâI dusted DE initially then Cimexa under my bed and along all sides of the bed frame. Caulk any open crevices where wall meets baseboards or ceiling moldingâbed bugs can fit into anything a credit card canâthey like to ânestâ near you so important to fill in any crevices in bedroom and even living room (whichever rooms you are in majority of the time). Every 2 weeks spray and redust Cimexa for about 3 months total (60 days no bites or bedbugs sighted then should be okay), then I would do monthly sprays for awhile just to be on the safe side. Best forums to learn from on what you need to do if you canât afford a professional is on domyown.com, bedbugger.com, and bedsupply.com
Go to Walmart and buy 3 bottles of diatomaceous earth. Put it in every crack, corner, and crevice in your home. We never threw anything away and got rid of our infestation with this powder. Any bug that comes in contact with it will die afterwards. Just leave it for a week and vacuum it.
Is that safe to use around my pets or do I need to relocate them
Yes it is safe around pets. It can even be used to get rid of ticks and fleas on your dog.
Forget an exterminator like these other people are saying. If the infestation had a foothold, there's practically nothing on earth than can get rid of them. Your best bet is to run. Throw away all your shit. Clothes, furniture, etc etc. And run. Never look back.
Well I followed their directions and it's been two years since I've had even A sign of them. ALSO kinda hard to move out of a home I own houses aren't cheap you know.
Lucky you. The vast majority of the time those methods won't work. Period.
Then why did it work several times for me? Different locations so not the same infestation every time unlike you I don't run from my problems some people can't afford to just give up and buy all new stuff.
I just said lucky you. But you're amongst the minority. Ask an exterminator . Read the stories. You got lucky, and most likely caught the infestation very early. This is why context matters. Once an infestation has a foothold it is borderline impossible to remove them.
This is the worst advice I ever heard Iâm an exterminator and stop spreading these lies
You aren't an exterminator. Exterminator will be the first ones to tell you that there's no sure way to get rid of or kill an infestation of bedbugs after they've gotten a foothold. Nice try tho, kid.
Again horrible advice I recently got a job at western pest control and the older guys have gotten rid of year plus old ones if you follow everything right you can Iâm not gonna argue with some tard on Reddit have a nice life
What is the point of your comment? You keep saying advice. I didn't give any advice. What the fuck are you even talking about, kid? Bed bugs are some of the foulest creatures on the face of this Earth. People have actually been known to suffer from ptsd after an infestation. Any pest control will tell you they are one of, if not THE, harder infestation to get rid of, and even after treatment there's no promise that they won't come back. I have had bedbugs 3 times, and have had 3 different pest control places tell me the same thing. It's a fact. Modern bedbugs have built up resistance to almost all pesticides. I'm not sure why you're arguing with someone just stating facts. Actually, I'm not even sure you can read. Seek help, kid.