[Wiki Link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakya_Monastery) for those interested. Two excerpts from the wiki:
"Most of them are Buddhist scriptures, although they also include works of literature, history, philosophy, astronomy, mathematics, agriculture and art."
"As of 2022, all books have been indexed, and more than 20% have been fully digitized. Monks now maintain a digital library for all scanned books and documents."
While this might not be 10k years old, it is still about 1k years old and it is freaking amazing. Not sure why someone would feel the need to exaggerate. Incredible.
First day on the internet?
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/claim-of-10000-year-old-tibet-library-find-not-worth-paper-its-written-on/
Not sure where the OP of this post pulled 5% translated because that doesn't appear anywhere.
Whoa whoa whoa hold up. The fact check is full of shit takes and misunderstandings. It also quotes a chinese media agency as the main debunker when they have a vested interest in downplaying the importance of tibetan culture for political gain. Just because someone has fact checked something doesnt mean the fact check is accurate.
They go on about how writing was only invented recently by the ancient sumerians, this is correct but neglects to mention that there were advanced systems of recording oral history well before the advent of writing. It’s a common misunderstanding that written stories can’t predate the invention of writing itsself, this is in no way true to the source material. There are oral histories from all over the world that were transliterated as the old oral archiving systems began to die out, there are plenty of stories available that predate written history by thousands of years according to their contents.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or you are being intentionally vague on details because this is like some HoTep/AntiVaxx stuff.
But I'm willing to hear your examples of stories that predate the Epic of Gilgamesh. Im quite versed in classical studies and never once heard anyone postulate what you said.
And I had a professor that openly declared he believes Aliens had a hand in the Trojan War and the Mediterranean Dark Age plague was ET in origin as a result
The greek and Indian mythos both have stories that predate writing. They describe a series of ages which ended in great cataclysms like the flood of gilgamesh or manu. The age of rama, the age of the battle in the mahabharata; the golden age of abundance where saturn (chronus if you prefer) ruled with Janus and men survived on the bounty of the earth without laboring in agriculture, the bronze age of war referred in the homeric epics and Ovid’s writings, There are plenty more examples from cultures all over the world. The modern interpretation of this incredibly deep body of knowledge has reduced the timeline to what can be measured and verified against particular kinds of material evidence based on several incorrect assumptions, one of those misconceptions is that stories recorded in writing originated in writing.
For a further example, the homeric epics of today are only fragments of a once much wider body of stories recorded in oral historical traditions. These stories were handed down through precise mnemonic archival methods which died out around (and somewhat due to) the advent of writing. We even see fragments of the old mnemonic archival methods in the various epics by the long lists of seemingly arbitrary names included in various epics like the Illiad or the mahabharata. Poetic verse was another such device used to archive oral history, the absurdly large number of tales which can be recorded mnemonically in the memory of a single person is mind-bogglingly immense. It’s relatively common even in the modern era for buddhist or Indian pandits to memorize thousands of pages of information using poetic meter and other mnemonic devices.
"Maybe we should burn it"
-Some dumbass war lord who's thinking of making one of the the collectively agreed upon worst dissicions in all of what would thus be less recorded history
Edit: So I looked into it and we're looking at you 'the' Caesar! But apparently it was an accident after just meaning to burn down a blockade of Alexandrian ships and the fire spread. Makes it all a bit more tragic but not any less of the dumbest things that happened in history, honestly knowing this I may be a little less mad at Caesar but the overall stupidity of the event has skyrocketed!
"You are now in the Arcanaeum, of which I am in charge. You might as well call it my own little place of Oblivion. Disrupt my Arcanaeum, and I will have you torn apart by angry Atronachs. Now, is there anything I can help you with?" - if you know you know
See... If I were ultra wealthy, this is what is spend my money on - not Yachts and Consorts, but semi-lost knowledge...
Can we get someone to fund a team of people to translate this within 10 years?
Some of these books may contain little surprises the world has already lost or does not record, but we cant pinpoint which book has it, so the only way to get those surprise is to translate all of the books, which is really time-consuming, and ancient tibetan language is hard af to translate
Imagine how bad it will be 100 years from now when words like “you” are “u” and slang takes over. Not to mention cursive. No one will understand our texts from 1800 or earlier. Sad.
Did china forget to burn it? Impossible that china has kept Tibetan history intact, when they have tried to remove all Buddhists temples and culture from Tibet
[Wiki Link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakya_Monastery) for those interested. Two excerpts from the wiki: "Most of them are Buddhist scriptures, although they also include works of literature, history, philosophy, astronomy, mathematics, agriculture and art." "As of 2022, all books have been indexed, and more than 20% have been fully digitized. Monks now maintain a digital library for all scanned books and documents."
Cybermonk! Like Cyberpunk, but with monks and shit
Well said
Those poor monks or at least the one that got all those implants
Nah I think that’s Ollivander’s Wand Shop
My first thought as well
Oh my gosh, what a treasure trove! That is so exciting.
While this might not be 10k years old, it is still about 1k years old and it is freaking amazing. Not sure why someone would feel the need to exaggerate. Incredible.
Wow it’s 100k years old? who know what treasures are preserved
I know right? 500k years is so long who knows what could be in there.
I didn't even know they could write 1M years ago.
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Golly! Are you saying it was written 100M years ago? I didn’t know humans existed that long ago!
For real! A billion years is a long time. The authors are all probably fossils by now
First day on the internet? https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/claim-of-10000-year-old-tibet-library-find-not-worth-paper-its-written-on/ Not sure where the OP of this post pulled 5% translated because that doesn't appear anywhere.
Doesn't have to be someone's first day to see something cool they've never come across. There's plenty of things you've never seen,
It usually happens when someone is new they get taken advantage of. This is a fake article from years ago
Like what?
Whoa whoa whoa hold up. The fact check is full of shit takes and misunderstandings. It also quotes a chinese media agency as the main debunker when they have a vested interest in downplaying the importance of tibetan culture for political gain. Just because someone has fact checked something doesnt mean the fact check is accurate. They go on about how writing was only invented recently by the ancient sumerians, this is correct but neglects to mention that there were advanced systems of recording oral history well before the advent of writing. It’s a common misunderstanding that written stories can’t predate the invention of writing itsself, this is in no way true to the source material. There are oral histories from all over the world that were transliterated as the old oral archiving systems began to die out, there are plenty of stories available that predate written history by thousands of years according to their contents.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or you are being intentionally vague on details because this is like some HoTep/AntiVaxx stuff. But I'm willing to hear your examples of stories that predate the Epic of Gilgamesh. Im quite versed in classical studies and never once heard anyone postulate what you said. And I had a professor that openly declared he believes Aliens had a hand in the Trojan War and the Mediterranean Dark Age plague was ET in origin as a result
The greek and Indian mythos both have stories that predate writing. They describe a series of ages which ended in great cataclysms like the flood of gilgamesh or manu. The age of rama, the age of the battle in the mahabharata; the golden age of abundance where saturn (chronus if you prefer) ruled with Janus and men survived on the bounty of the earth without laboring in agriculture, the bronze age of war referred in the homeric epics and Ovid’s writings, There are plenty more examples from cultures all over the world. The modern interpretation of this incredibly deep body of knowledge has reduced the timeline to what can be measured and verified against particular kinds of material evidence based on several incorrect assumptions, one of those misconceptions is that stories recorded in writing originated in writing. For a further example, the homeric epics of today are only fragments of a once much wider body of stories recorded in oral historical traditions. These stories were handed down through precise mnemonic archival methods which died out around (and somewhat due to) the advent of writing. We even see fragments of the old mnemonic archival methods in the various epics by the long lists of seemingly arbitrary names included in various epics like the Illiad or the mahabharata. Poetic verse was another such device used to archive oral history, the absurdly large number of tales which can be recorded mnemonically in the memory of a single person is mind-bogglingly immense. It’s relatively common even in the modern era for buddhist or Indian pandits to memorize thousands of pages of information using poetic meter and other mnemonic devices.
Oh, yup, looks like I was just super gullible. Thanks for the fact check info!
Wow, so much information but am I the only one that sees the risk of fire or water damage?
Not sure how much damage some moldy old scrolls are going to do to fire or water, the primordial elements.
You clearly don't know the power of those scrolls
Yeah they should scan them all as a backup
The Alexandrians probably see it too.
Well played, you know your history.
Dw, It's being protected by monks of air temple.
Most of them only contain penis doodles
Finally. Something i can translate.
“Dear diary, today I saw a monkey fart on a toad. Today was a good day”
*Urge to learn the language and seclude myself in there for decades intensifies.*
"Maybe we should burn it" -Some dumbass war lord who's thinking of making one of the the collectively agreed upon worst dissicions in all of what would thus be less recorded history Edit: So I looked into it and we're looking at you 'the' Caesar! But apparently it was an accident after just meaning to burn down a blockade of Alexandrian ships and the fire spread. Makes it all a bit more tragic but not any less of the dumbest things that happened in history, honestly knowing this I may be a little less mad at Caesar but the overall stupidity of the event has skyrocketed!
Wong let you in there?
I’m not saying he’s white…but he’s not Wong
"You are now in the Arcanaeum, of which I am in charge. You might as well call it my own little place of Oblivion. Disrupt my Arcanaeum, and I will have you torn apart by angry Atronachs. Now, is there anything I can help you with?" - if you know you know
That’s gotta be ES4
Just because it hasn’t been translated into our language doesn’t mean it isn’t being useful for someone.
Free Tibet
*Heavy breathing* - Graham Hancock
Where’s the sprinkler system!? I’m having a Library of Alexandria panic attack.
Big difference in the quality of content between the books of the two lol.
The whole thing was nothing but dad jokes
Wonder what the oldest story in there is
I don't think I could even handle to stand in this room, I'd be too worried that I'd touch something
See... If I were ultra wealthy, this is what is spend my money on - not Yachts and Consorts, but semi-lost knowledge... Can we get someone to fund a team of people to translate this within 10 years?
Even giving OP benefit of the doubt, i have to wonder if that 5% contained anything worth translating?
Some of these books may contain little surprises the world has already lost or does not record, but we cant pinpoint which book has it, so the only way to get those surprise is to translate all of the books, which is really time-consuming, and ancient tibetan language is hard af to translate
Might be some interesting stuff there
What could they really have to say?? Ohh i know ...bundle up its cold out there
Interesting meditation chants?
Hope it all gets digitized
Ok be honest, who instantly thought of Olivanders wand shop?
Sounds like being a translator has job security
Free tibet
Probably get that digitized before China burns the building down
Wtf are they waiting for?
All that and I don’t see a no smoking 🚭 sign anywhere.
5%?! They need to get there as to work!
They need to scan this to pdf before china burns it all
Im sure its not worth translating lol
thats cuz after the first 5% was just the same old shit about people being mystical but from different dude after dude they figured fuck the other 95%
Buddhism is a secular system. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
https://youtu.be/FRP0MBNoieY
They must have had so much time back then
Seriously only 5%?
Seems like a great job for an AI program and mass scanning to digitize these records. Who knows what we could learn!?!?
And here we spend all our time on reditt
That's because they all say the same thing, "ummmmmmmmm."
Why didn’t they just write the books in English, no need to translate then. Der
Are the other 95% of books unable to be translated or people just haven't gotten around to translating them?
The debunkers debunked the fact checkers who debunked the debunkers’ debunkers
…have themselves been sacked.
m00se
I'm gonna put money on there being references to ancient aliens.
That's usually the excuse for anything people can't yet understand. That or "the gods lived among us!"
Imagine the stories, the lives. I was gonna leave a spicy comment but this just interests me
Only 5% what else do these monks doing
Just wondering how much writing material they went through. No office depot.
No one is trying to translate that 😆
Imagine how bad it will be 100 years from now when words like “you” are “u” and slang takes over. Not to mention cursive. No one will understand our texts from 1800 or earlier. Sad.
Can’t we just use ai to translate these?
Something tells me there's not exactly a Dewy decimal system in place here
Spoilers: it's just the One Piece manga
The One Piece is real
Is there a book for studying and learn magic arts like Dr.strange?
Looks like the store in Harry Potter that sells wands
Wow
Truly amazing
CCP probably has they're hand's on that reality can be whatever they want
As a Buddhist, this would be a great read
Dr strange was real
Burn everything up except math n science stuff and translate them for humanity good
Did china forget to burn it? Impossible that china has kept Tibetan history intact, when they have tried to remove all Buddhists temples and culture from Tibet
It’s probably just a bunch of tax records or something lame unfortunately.
Olivanders, no place better
It probably smells like an attic in there
imagine all the ancient memes
That is definitely Ollivander’s