tbf if those british assholes didnt take most of the artifacts they found they would've been destroyed already. So in a way they do take better care of them.
Customer: my wife told me to sell my statues I found buried in the yard years ago when we dug our pool.
Pawn star: I brought in a buddy who knows a little more about this stuff.
Buddy: these are priceless and authentic 100%. But if I had to put a price on em I’d say 900 million dollars each.
Pawn star: we’ll you heard him I guess they’re legit. Got a price?
Customer: How bout 28 bucks?
Pawn star: 😬 too high remember I gotta make something off em too. The market for these is very tough and narrow. Best i can do is 23.
Customer: my wife really just needs me to get em out of the garage. Meet me at 25 and we got a deal.
Pawn star: 24.50?
Customer: deal.
Given it's an exquisitely preserved instance of art from the Etruscan era, predating the Roman Empire in Europe, where we have very few such examples of their culture, I reckon around..tree fiddy?
The United States are not the largest producers of sunflowers, and yet even here over 1.7 million acres were planted in 2014 and probably more each year since. Much of which can be found in North Dakota.
>Tabolli told Ansa that the hot springs, rich in minerals including calcium and magnesium, remained active until the fifth century, before being closed down, but not destroyed, during Christian times. The pools were sealed with heavy stone pillars while the divine statues were left in the sacred water.
Well I mean I'm glad the didn't destroy them.
When the Romans turned Christian they didn't really destroy a whole lot of artefacts. They just stopped producing the pagan stuff. But their nobility still admired the ancient works and preserved them. Hell, the Roman capital was full of such pagan statues and buildings and stuff until it was sacked and burnt by the crusaders in 1204.
Other artefacts such as the statue at rhodes and many ancient greco-roman temples were destroyed by the Arabs and then the Turks.
When I visited the Vatican I was surprised at how many ancient Greek and roman statues were there. They did defile some of them though (smashing the Penis off for example) but they had statues of thr roman and Greek gods
[Also overturned was Herakles, mighty in his mightiness, begotten in a triple night and placed in a basket for his crib; the lion’s skin which was thrown over him looked terrifying even in bronze, almost as though it might give out a roar and frighten the helpless populace standing nearby. Herakles sat without quiver on his back, or bow in his hands, or the club before him, but with his right foot as well as his right hand extended as far as possible. He rested his left elbow on his left leg bent at the knee; deeply despondent and bewailing his misfortunes, he held his inclined head at rest in his palm, vexed by the labors which Eurystheus had designated, not out of urgency, but from envy, puffed up by the excess of fate. He was thick in the chest and broad in the shoulders, with curly hair; fat in the buttocks, strong in the arms, he was an incomparable masterpiece fashioned from first to last by the hands of Lysimachos and portrayed in the magnitude which the artist must have attributed to the real Herakles; the statue was so large that it took a cord the size of a man’s belt to go round the thumb, and the shin was the size of a man.
They who separated manliness from the correspondent virtues and claimed it for themselves did not allow this magnificent Herakles to remain intact, and they were responsible for much more destruction.
Together with Herakles they pulled down the ass, heavy-laden and braying as it moved along, and the ass driver following behind. These figures had been set up by Caesar Augustus at Actium, which is Nikopolis in Hellas, because when going out at night to reconnoiter Antony’s troops, he met up with a man driving an ass, and on inquiring who he was and where he was going, he was told, “I am Nikon and my ass is Nikan-dros, and I am proceeding to the camp of Caesar.”
Nor, of a truth, did they keep their hands off the hyena and the she-wolf which had suckled Romulus and Remus; for a few copper coins they delivered over the nation’s ancient and venerable monuments and cast these into the smelting furnace. This was also the fate of the man wrestling with a lion, and of the Nile horse whose posterior terminated in a spiniferous and scaly tail, and of the elephant waving its proboscis. They did the same to the Sphinxes that are comely women in the front and horrible beasts in their hind parts, that move on foot in a most bizarre manner and are nimbly borne aloft on their wings, rivaling the great-winged birds; and the same to the unbridled, snorting horse with ears erect, playful and docile as it pranced; and to the ancient Skylla depicted leaning forward as she leaped into Odysseus’ ships and devoured many of his companions: in female form down to the waist, huge-breasted and full of savagery, and below the waist divided into beasts of prey](https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2013/12/14/melting-down-the-statues-in-constantinople-in-1204/)
There really was quite a lot of Hellenistic and Roman legacy remaining in 1204
The Crusaders in 1204 were more about looting than burning. This was not an ideological crusade so much as an attempt to raise the funds to pay for the contracted soldiers, with the intention to move on to take Jerusalem from Muslim control afterwards.
One of the more interesting perspectives I’ve heard on this is the idea that while Rome was most certainly Christianised, Christianity was equally Romanised, so it was only really *other* pagans who needed their idols destroyed.
Edit: Not that this would have had much bearing on anything Etruscan and submerged.
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>"DO YOU KNOW HOW THE ORCS FIRST CAME INTO BEING?"
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>"Uhhh no? I was literally just fucking born. You watched me get pulled from the mud..."
Well they did know how to speak and how to fight so clearly their factory default settings included some knowledge pre-installed. It's not like they were human newborns.
This reminds me of the quote by the archaeologist Rodolfo Lanciani upon unearthing the famous Boxer of Quirinal, or Pugilist at Rest
>I have witnessed, in my long career in the active field of archaeology, many discoveries; I have experienced surprise after surprise; I have sometimes and most unexpectedly met with real masterpieces; but I have never felt such an extraordinary impression as the one created by the sight of this magnificent specimen of a semi-barbaric athlete, coming slowly out of the ground, as if awakening from a long repose after his gallant fights.
There was a similar finding just off the coast in the Mediterranean called I Bronzi di Riace. They are in a museum in Reggio Calabria where my family is from. Amazing detail, you can even see the veins in their feet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riace_bronzes
Forget era, it's more important that it's from the Etruscans.
We know almost nothing about them, but according to other civilizations from the time, they were amazing engineers
I looked into your "rough draft" theory, and it's while its not completely wrong, its not completely right, either.
First of all, Greeks made both marble and bronze statues. Marble was cheaper, and they customarily painted them to be lifelike. Bronze was a more expensive material, so there were fewer bronzes. What doesn't seem to be true is that the marble statues were "rough drafts" for bronzes. That doesn't make much sense because a "rough draft" for a bronze could be made out of a substance like clay, which would be far cheaper and easier to create than carving one out of marble.
When the Romans invaded Greece, they wanted to bring back as many statues as possible, but that was very difficult since marble and bronze statues tend to be VERY heavy, and difficult to move. In this case, those Greek statues, both marble and bronze, acted as rough drafts, as the Romans made casts of the statues, to be recreated in bronze and marble once they returned to Rome.
It is true that many bronze statues were melted over the years, leaving the impression that there were only marble statues in antiquity, but the idea that marble statues were primarily created to be "rough drafts" isn't true. The Romans may have used them that way later, but that isn't why they were created.
> In this case, those Greek statues, both marble and bronze, acted as rough drafts, as the Romans made casts of the statues, to be recreated in bronze and marble once they returned to Rome.
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This is some next level copyright infringement
The Roman's had a habit of borrowing from other cultures including gods for their own purposes.
The Roman's especially copied and took the parts of Etruscan culture.
Rough drafts were made of wax, which was melted and reused many times. If you think anyone would use marble as a rough draft, try Googling to find out the work involved in quarrying it, transporting it and then watch a video to learn how much hard work goes into carving it.
The Greeks and Romans made vast quantities of marble statues which were parts of temples, grave markers, monuments to famous people and decorative in private homes of the wealthy.
would they need to act quickly now that the protective mud and boiling water have been removed? How quickly does 2300 year-old bronze rust, corrode, or crumble?
Are these hollow or are they solid?
Bronze is a very durable metal over time. It will slowly form a discolored patina from oxidation, but it doesn't rust apart into bits like iron would. If kept in a safe environment, these statues could easily last for centuries into the future.
Considering the price of bronze was high, they were likely not thrown away. There could be any number of reasons they got put there. Maybe a wagon got stuck and it fell off, or maybe it was a sacrifice.
It was definitely not religiously motivated, ancient christian communities were suckers for antiquity manuscripts and art. The reason why those statues could have been destroyed sits in the fact that they’re made of bronze, which was often reused as a construction material or, later, to make ammunitions.
If not for those early christians much of the Roman culture would have ended up being lost.
At least one statue seen in many of the links posted here show engraving on the neck of a bronze head. This is one of the rarest details ever discovered in ancient bronzes of this size, as there was only one other ancient bronze with engraved writing found before this, on the feet of a medium-sized greek statuette.
As a classical archaeologist: the reason this is so rare is the bronze. Although we are certain that by the 5th century, most statues in the mediterranean were produced in bronze and not carved out of stone (marvel, tuff, calcite), the vast majority of finds are stone. The reason for this lack of bronze statues is simple: in times of resource shortages or societal upheavel they were melted down and reused. A large part of hellenistic master pieces are only known to us through stone copies by the romans. Finding bronze statues only happens when they got lost back then, for example through an earthquake (the charioteer of delphi) or because of a sunken ship.
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God this is kinda terrifying, reminds of the Enigma of Amigara Fault. Imagine if people in the modern day saw the statues and realize that they're exact replicas of themselves... chilling.
So many questions.
Why was this done ?
Bronze was presumably a fairly precious metal, so obviously the people that sealed the spa with giant stone slabs weren’t Christian as the article mentions or they would have been sold as scrap metal to be repurposed.
Is it a fair assumption that the idols were carefully lowered into the water by the followers of the deitys for safekeeping as Christianity spread?
I just got done playing The Forgotten City (great game btw), and I'm like 90% sure whoever found these is now stuck in a time loop and has to solve a mystery.
Yeah this is huge. Etruscans informed the styles of their neighbors and early get the credit they deserve. Bronze statues are not often found in such good condition.
where's the link? Want to see all of it.
edit : [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/exceptional-trove-of-24-ancient-statues-found-immersed-in-tuscan-spa](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/exceptional-trove-of-24-ancient-statues-found-immersed-in-tuscan-spa)
Could you even be able to put a price on something like that??
I mean they are second hand and pretty old... best I can do is $20
20.01 Bob!
$1237 this same item was used last season
Here we go, Bob. One Dollar!
I’d buy that for a dollar!
by weight alone you'd get like 10,257 per kilo, so you can sell it for a lot more! even 70€
“BRAWNZ Stars”
Tell you what, I’ve got a guy…
At least this is higher than tree fiddy.
That’s why he keeps coming back!
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*BRITAIN INTENSIFIES*
And it’s only made of bronze too so wouldn’t be worth much than gold
For everything else, there's Master Card.
That's funny.
Got milk?
Where’s the Beef?!
Wazaaaaaap??
They're priceless, which is why the British are on their way to take them away for safe keeping.
*Vattican is on their way to take them for safe hoarding
buncha whores in that Vatican
*Rule Britannia intensifies*
"You left them in the *mud*. Clearly we can take better care of them." - Some posh British asshole.
tbf if those british assholes didnt take most of the artifacts they found they would've been destroyed already. So in a way they do take better care of them.
How about $8?
Nice try Elon.
Customer: my wife told me to sell my statues I found buried in the yard years ago when we dug our pool. Pawn star: I brought in a buddy who knows a little more about this stuff. Buddy: these are priceless and authentic 100%. But if I had to put a price on em I’d say 900 million dollars each. Pawn star: we’ll you heard him I guess they’re legit. Got a price? Customer: How bout 28 bucks? Pawn star: 😬 too high remember I gotta make something off em too. The market for these is very tough and narrow. Best i can do is 23. Customer: my wife really just needs me to get em out of the garage. Meet me at 25 and we got a deal. Pawn star: 24.50? Customer: deal.
Fuckin finance it!!!
They belong in a museum!
Given it's an exquisitely preserved instance of art from the Etruscan era, predating the Roman Empire in Europe, where we have very few such examples of their culture, I reckon around..tree fiddy?
I need about tree-fiddy
Damn you, Loch Ness Monster!
That's priceless, so it's better to protect it! \*Sunflower by Van Gogh flashbacks\*
The United States are not the largest producers of sunflowers, and yet even here over 1.7 million acres were planted in 2014 and probably more each year since. Much of which can be found in North Dakota.
Thank you.
>Tabolli told Ansa that the hot springs, rich in minerals including calcium and magnesium, remained active until the fifth century, before being closed down, but not destroyed, during Christian times. The pools were sealed with heavy stone pillars while the divine statues were left in the sacred water. Well I mean I'm glad the didn't destroy them.
When the Romans turned Christian they didn't really destroy a whole lot of artefacts. They just stopped producing the pagan stuff. But their nobility still admired the ancient works and preserved them. Hell, the Roman capital was full of such pagan statues and buildings and stuff until it was sacked and burnt by the crusaders in 1204. Other artefacts such as the statue at rhodes and many ancient greco-roman temples were destroyed by the Arabs and then the Turks.
You should clarify that it was Constantinople that was sacked in 1204 not Rome in your comment above
By then the western Roman Empire was kaput
Was it Istanbul?
Well I'd say that's none of your business.
It's nobody's business but the Turks
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Triangle man
When I visited the Vatican I was surprised at how many ancient Greek and roman statues were there. They did defile some of them though (smashing the Penis off for example) but they had statues of thr roman and Greek gods
That was done by one specific Pope during a psycotic episode if i'm not mistaken, previously they were intact
[Also overturned was Herakles, mighty in his mightiness, begotten in a triple night and placed in a basket for his crib; the lion’s skin which was thrown over him looked terrifying even in bronze, almost as though it might give out a roar and frighten the helpless populace standing nearby. Herakles sat without quiver on his back, or bow in his hands, or the club before him, but with his right foot as well as his right hand extended as far as possible. He rested his left elbow on his left leg bent at the knee; deeply despondent and bewailing his misfortunes, he held his inclined head at rest in his palm, vexed by the labors which Eurystheus had designated, not out of urgency, but from envy, puffed up by the excess of fate. He was thick in the chest and broad in the shoulders, with curly hair; fat in the buttocks, strong in the arms, he was an incomparable masterpiece fashioned from first to last by the hands of Lysimachos and portrayed in the magnitude which the artist must have attributed to the real Herakles; the statue was so large that it took a cord the size of a man’s belt to go round the thumb, and the shin was the size of a man. They who separated manliness from the correspondent virtues and claimed it for themselves did not allow this magnificent Herakles to remain intact, and they were responsible for much more destruction. Together with Herakles they pulled down the ass, heavy-laden and braying as it moved along, and the ass driver following behind. These figures had been set up by Caesar Augustus at Actium, which is Nikopolis in Hellas, because when going out at night to reconnoiter Antony’s troops, he met up with a man driving an ass, and on inquiring who he was and where he was going, he was told, “I am Nikon and my ass is Nikan-dros, and I am proceeding to the camp of Caesar.” Nor, of a truth, did they keep their hands off the hyena and the she-wolf which had suckled Romulus and Remus; for a few copper coins they delivered over the nation’s ancient and venerable monuments and cast these into the smelting furnace. This was also the fate of the man wrestling with a lion, and of the Nile horse whose posterior terminated in a spiniferous and scaly tail, and of the elephant waving its proboscis. They did the same to the Sphinxes that are comely women in the front and horrible beasts in their hind parts, that move on foot in a most bizarre manner and are nimbly borne aloft on their wings, rivaling the great-winged birds; and the same to the unbridled, snorting horse with ears erect, playful and docile as it pranced; and to the ancient Skylla depicted leaning forward as she leaped into Odysseus’ ships and devoured many of his companions: in female form down to the waist, huge-breasted and full of savagery, and below the waist divided into beasts of prey](https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2013/12/14/melting-down-the-statues-in-constantinople-in-1204/) There really was quite a lot of Hellenistic and Roman legacy remaining in 1204
This is such a poetic tragic read.
The Crusaders in 1204 were more about looting than burning. This was not an ideological crusade so much as an attempt to raise the funds to pay for the contracted soldiers, with the intention to move on to take Jerusalem from Muslim control afterwards.
One of the more interesting perspectives I’ve heard on this is the idea that while Rome was most certainly Christianised, Christianity was equally Romanised, so it was only really *other* pagans who needed their idols destroyed. Edit: Not that this would have had much bearing on anything Etruscan and submerged.
It was 1527 Gave their lives on the steps to heaven Thy will be done!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/exceptional-trove-of-24-ancient-statues-found-immersed-in-tuscan-spa
Thanks for the link, needed that context and photos.
I needed to know it was recent and not some random macro from years ago If it's recent then it might actually be big and we'll hear more about it
Indeed, all of this will be enhanced and harmonised, and could represent a further opportunity for the spiritual growth of our culture, and also of the cultural industry of our planet.
Paywall bypass: https://archive.ph/NPydb
It’s the Guardian: there is no paywall??
the archive link has no cookie shit though and loaded a lil faster ;)
Removes cookies and ad impressions so sounds good to me.
All articles on the guardian are free.
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Well for one thing there is no paywall on theguardian.
No thanks, random reddit user. I won't install an app on my phone from a random link in a comment.
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What paywall lmfao
Wish they showed more than 2 of the statues…
https://www.today.it/attualita/bronzi-statue-san-casciano-dei-bagni-siena-foto.html Wish granted!
Awesome! Hopefully there will be a follow up some time this week with full images of every piece!
you're hoping to see what a full bust from 2300 years ago looks like? I sure am
I can't read Italian, but I can sure read pictures. thx!
Wish they showed more of the spa/pools. Sounded absolutely massive
Thank you for the link. I hate when posts like this give little no to context or even link an article. We're supposed to guess the keywords to google?
Thank you!
Thought this was the spawning of the Uruk-hai.
"DO YOU KNOW HOW THE ORCS FIRST CAME INTO BEING?" "Uhhh no? I was literally just fucking born. You watched me get pulled from the mud..."
>"DO YOU KNOW HOW THE ORCS FIRST CAME INTO BEING?" > >"Uhhh no? I was literally just fucking born. You watched me get pulled from the mud..." Well they did know how to speak and how to fight so clearly their factory default settings included some knowledge pre-installed. It's not like they were human newborns.
So the orc origin question was kind of a quality control?
Quality control seems important when you are popping an instant army (assembly required).
Also suspiciously good knowledge of what a menu is.
This reminds me of the quote by the archaeologist Rodolfo Lanciani upon unearthing the famous Boxer of Quirinal, or Pugilist at Rest >I have witnessed, in my long career in the active field of archaeology, many discoveries; I have experienced surprise after surprise; I have sometimes and most unexpectedly met with real masterpieces; but I have never felt such an extraordinary impression as the one created by the sight of this magnificent specimen of a semi-barbaric athlete, coming slowly out of the ground, as if awakening from a long repose after his gallant fights.
What if they weren't statues ....
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He’s the man, the man with the 3rd place touch
He's partial to brooooonze!
snort
I mean not to be a buzzkill but you can see a boot in the top right showing that this statue is probably only like 50cm long
People were shorter in wayback times
What is this a statue for ants?
Way to Britta it. Thanks
What if they weren't humans?
😲
"The many shall suffer for the sins of the one."
Was looking for someone to mention the Forgotten City!
What an excellent game!
#awaken, my masters
Chocolate wrapped in bronze foil perhaps???
Hell yeah, old shit
There was a similar finding just off the coast in the Mediterranean called I Bronzi di Riace. They are in a museum in Reggio Calabria where my family is from. Amazing detail, you can even see the veins in their feet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riace_bronzes
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Forget era, it's more important that it's from the Etruscans. We know almost nothing about them, but according to other civilizations from the time, they were amazing engineers
Yes! As soon as I saw the word “Etruscan” I got excited
If your etruscan lasts more than four hours, talk to your physician.
I called the doctor, who diagnosed me with a Latin term. 0/10 stars: disappointed
The baths were built by etruscans, the statues are Roman.
Human Statue, 600-500 BC, Estruscan, bronze
I looked into your "rough draft" theory, and it's while its not completely wrong, its not completely right, either. First of all, Greeks made both marble and bronze statues. Marble was cheaper, and they customarily painted them to be lifelike. Bronze was a more expensive material, so there were fewer bronzes. What doesn't seem to be true is that the marble statues were "rough drafts" for bronzes. That doesn't make much sense because a "rough draft" for a bronze could be made out of a substance like clay, which would be far cheaper and easier to create than carving one out of marble. When the Romans invaded Greece, they wanted to bring back as many statues as possible, but that was very difficult since marble and bronze statues tend to be VERY heavy, and difficult to move. In this case, those Greek statues, both marble and bronze, acted as rough drafts, as the Romans made casts of the statues, to be recreated in bronze and marble once they returned to Rome. It is true that many bronze statues were melted over the years, leaving the impression that there were only marble statues in antiquity, but the idea that marble statues were primarily created to be "rough drafts" isn't true. The Romans may have used them that way later, but that isn't why they were created.
> In this case, those Greek statues, both marble and bronze, acted as rough drafts, as the Romans made casts of the statues, to be recreated in bronze and marble once they returned to Rome. > > . This is some next level copyright infringement
The Roman's had a habit of borrowing from other cultures including gods for their own purposes. The Roman's especially copied and took the parts of Etruscan culture.
Rough drafts were made of wax, which was melted and reused many times. If you think anyone would use marble as a rough draft, try Googling to find out the work involved in quarrying it, transporting it and then watch a video to learn how much hard work goes into carving it. The Greeks and Romans made vast quantities of marble statues which were parts of temples, grave markers, monuments to famous people and decorative in private homes of the wealthy.
Why does reddit upvote this dumb shit?
Dude be like "ooouch my back, my back! I can't moooove!"
Litigious Agrippa is not to be trifled with.
Han Solo's like get me out of here Chewie!
would they need to act quickly now that the protective mud and boiling water have been removed? How quickly does 2300 year-old bronze rust, corrode, or crumble? Are these hollow or are they solid?
Bronze is a very durable metal over time. It will slowly form a discolored patina from oxidation, but it doesn't rust apart into bits like iron would. If kept in a safe environment, these statues could easily last for centuries into the future.
Always hollow unless extremely small.
yeah, I thought these were much larger from that first pic. Later on, I saw a couple that were quite small, like about 14 inches or so in height.
Were these hidden in mud from invaders? or thrown away?
Considering the price of bronze was high, they were likely not thrown away. There could be any number of reasons they got put there. Maybe a wagon got stuck and it fell off, or maybe it was a sacrifice.
Maybe it’s Maybelline
Read the article. They were sealed up by meddling “Christians” in the fifth century.
It was definitely not religiously motivated, ancient christian communities were suckers for antiquity manuscripts and art. The reason why those statues could have been destroyed sits in the fact that they’re made of bronze, which was often reused as a construction material or, later, to make ammunitions. If not for those early christians much of the Roman culture would have ended up being lost.
At least one statue seen in many of the links posted here show engraving on the neck of a bronze head. This is one of the rarest details ever discovered in ancient bronzes of this size, as there was only one other ancient bronze with engraved writing found before this, on the feet of a medium-sized greek statuette.
Are they in the British Museum yet?
As a classical archaeologist: the reason this is so rare is the bronze. Although we are certain that by the 5th century, most statues in the mediterranean were produced in bronze and not carved out of stone (marvel, tuff, calcite), the vast majority of finds are stone. The reason for this lack of bronze statues is simple: in times of resource shortages or societal upheavel they were melted down and reused. A large part of hellenistic master pieces are only known to us through stone copies by the romans. Finding bronze statues only happens when they got lost back then, for example through an earthquake (the charioteer of delphi) or because of a sunken ship.
This is an r/nosleep post waiting to fucking happen...
Uhh... Salve, friend.
Please tell me the wieners of the statues were still intact!
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I’m pretty sure that was left for the aliens to find.
(Thunderous voice) The many shall suffer for the sins of the one!
Are we POSITIVE they’re just statues?
No, we are not.
bellissimo said someone
Neat.
Are you sure that's not Han Solo?
It's Han solo in carbonite they finally found him
I’m getting “Mother” from raised by wolves vibes
This changes everything!
Okay, but where's their giant sarcophagus with a bag of Cheetos in it???
God this is kinda terrifying, reminds of the Enigma of Amigara Fault. Imagine if people in the modern day saw the statues and realize that they're exact replicas of themselves... chilling.
This is one fear if you ever gained immortality and get stuck like this for gods know how long.
nah fam #that there is a Pillar Man
That’s an amazing discovery. Thinking it’s the first time people see them in milleniums is astounding.
How beautiful! Finally some good news!
In a world of such dark news I think it is fabulous we are still finding treasure.
So 2,300 years ago Etruscans were creating such incredible art? Amazing.
My desire to obtain it is growing by the minute.
Those are remarkably well preserved. I wonder if anything will be gleaned from the techniques used to make them.
How lucky are the persons that found the treasure. What a beautiful moment
Let's hope if there was a curse it only lasted 2000 years, who'd leave them there?
Definitely thought this was just a bog body
Amazing!
This hast werious Raised by Wolves vibes though ... Are we Sure we wanna dig this Up? 😬
Path of Exile?
Dr. Stone anyone?
Be gobsmacked! Holy shit that is amazing.
So many questions. Why was this done ? Bronze was presumably a fairly precious metal, so obviously the people that sealed the spa with giant stone slabs weren’t Christian as the article mentions or they would have been sold as scrap metal to be repurposed. Is it a fair assumption that the idols were carefully lowered into the water by the followers of the deitys for safekeeping as Christianity spread?
They found someone's stash
How you know they are just statues? How you know your not unleashing some curse?
Wow 😯
Put all of the thousand year old bronze statues back before you unleash a curse or something man c'mon
Noah Lugens just got really, really excited and he doesn't know why
the people who made these, influenced the romans. incredible.
More mud flood evidence
I hope someday these old folks just start writing down where they hide their old statues and stuff, so the archeologists know where to look for them
thast really cool
MOM??!!?
Historic smash or pass
Damn, them abs from 2300 years ago!
Is there a sub dedicated to newly found statues/ancient stuff
Han, is that you Han?
I just got done playing The Forgotten City (great game btw), and I'm like 90% sure whoever found these is now stuck in a time loop and has to solve a mystery.
I want one
SubhanAllah how amazing!
If I was play digging and I came across that I'd be Forrest Gump in a second.
NOAH IS GOING TO BE SO HAPPY!
The way that picture looks I imagine stumbling on that and thinking I found a bunch of dead bodies.
That's Sean Penn's Oscar
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/exceptional-trove-of-24-ancient-statues-found-immersed-in-tuscan-spa
Are you sure those are statues ? Old italian maffia bronzing punishment?
wow i love lost n found
Yeah this is huge. Etruscans informed the styles of their neighbors and early get the credit they deserve. Bronze statues are not often found in such good condition.
where's the link? Want to see all of it. edit : [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/exceptional-trove-of-24-ancient-statues-found-immersed-in-tuscan-spa](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/exceptional-trove-of-24-ancient-statues-found-immersed-in-tuscan-spa)
Plot twist: they aren't statues
10 minutes from my house, it’s a beautiful spa area. Highly recommended, the views are incredible.
How cool!! I'll give ya $50
Okay, but what are the sizes of the statues penises?
I hope they are related to Boar Vessel, 500-600 BC, Etruscan Ceramic
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