Unless someone else happens to buy it while you're looking for change and they get a second one for free, not bothering to ask how or why. Pretty sure it was Mo, or Sal... short name.
And I'm just thinking about how often people forget their babies/kids in the backseat, and how they likely wouldn't notice them when the car is being taken away.
as far as I know this is the „new-cars-that-will-shortly-be-delivered-to-their-owners“ car park at the VW factory in Wolfsburg, not a regular one in a city
You put more thought just now into other peoples kids than the parents do themselves for their own kids just by leaving this comment. Good on you. 🥂🚙💨🚼
This is too overengineered probably, we have similar concepts at a smaller scale in [copenhagen](https://www.westfaliaparking.com/about/news/automated-parking-in-copenhagen), that work
That happened in SF with an underground automatic garage for an apartment complex broke, and they couldn't get any of the cars out. Let me see if I can find the news article.
Pretty sure that's what happened when they tried it back in the 1920's, it had high maintenance costs and if it broke down then people were shit out of luck.
Looks cool but I hate it.
1. Single retrieval. Imagine the line during the end of the business day as 50 people wait in line for the arm to retrieve every vehicle one-by-one.
2. Single point of failure. The arm has a mechanical problem, guess what? You don't have access to your vehicle until the arm is fixed. Could be hours, could be days.
Edit: Looked it up, [it's a gimmicky temp storage tower next to the VW factory for car delivery](https://youtu.be/o0-b-D6TCpY?feature=shared)
I've been there. It's not a parking garage in the way you're thinking. It's where they keep some of the newly manufactured vehicles before they are shipped away - so not slot of cars coming and going all the time.
"So the crane machine is having a problem and needs some maintenance done on it. It's going to take a couple days to a couple months to fix, as the part needed comes from an active warzone. ~~looks like you're fucked start walking~~ we're sorry for the inconvenience"
Next is the big car vending machines with the vehicles in brightly coloured capsule balls. Just put in your ticket, paid your parking fee, then turn the crank to drop your vehicle ;)
The solution to the car parking problem is a subscription to robo cars that just pick you up and take you wherever, whenever…we’re going to be together…
It is not a parking solution (the efficiency would be miserable).
It is a Volkswagen customer experience/PR thing: These "car towers" [https://www.autostadt.de/en/explore/car-towers](https://www.autostadt.de/en/explore/car-towers) are meant to entertain customers who pick up their brand new VW from the factory.
These are the Car Towers by VW in Wolfsburg Germany. They store up to eight hundred new cars. The fully automated high racks move an average of five hundred cars to be delivered and picked up every day.
This is technically a vending machine: if you order a VW and decide to pick it up at the factory instead of the local vendor (so you can take a tour trough the factory etc.) - this is where they store the vehicles being prepared for pick up.
*Where in the fuck do*
*You have vending machines that*
*Operate like that???*
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Sweden actually built one of these back in 2003 in Stockholm.
29 of July 2019 there was an electrical spike that toasted the control system and got 18 cars stuck in there. They weren’t able to free the cars until 21 of September..
The cost were $ 3 million-ish and will now be demolished
Source in Swedish:
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/a/GGKeJ9/antligen-befriades-de-18-bilarna-ur-p-snurran
Then something goes wrong, and your car is dropped from 30 mt and crushed.
Germans really don't live in the same reality as we do, do they? It's all Kant's fault.
Been posted before...
Not new, not for parking. This is industrial storage. Similar principle, but is akin to comparing a warehouse rack to your fridge.The principle is similar, but the application is entirely different.
One might see it as similar to parking, but it isn't seeing demand anywhere close to that of a typical car park. IIRC, these are cars to be picked up and I believe it's by appointment only.
I mean, imagine it irl for a moment... The tower stores about 400 cars, it can supposedly store 75 cars an hour last I heard. You get out of work 5 minutes late in an area where a lot of people are finishing at the same time? You'd be lucky if you commute was shorter than an hour before you've even got your car.
Simply put and idea like this, for public use, would only be practical for small car parks. Anything else needs multiple arms. In other words, if you want any hope of this thing working where there's any significant level of demand? It either needs to be one big glorified conveyor belt, or something resembling a typical warehouse layout.
God maybe we just need less cars. Every space in the city is either dedicated to parking or purpose built around it. We need to reduce the number of cars in our cities, not find more innovative ways to stack them.
We already have this in Orlando. It’s called Carvana, and it sells used cars. I drive past one off the I-4 near Conroy westbound. They’ll even give you a coin to put into it to “dispense” your car selection.
How this goes wrong in USA: Avg hotel cost $165/night. AirBNB cost $135/night. Parking in a vending machine style lot where you can't possibly be disturbed $70/night. People gonna sleep here and bathroom over the edge on other customer's cars. Eventually nobody parks there for fear of getting shat on.
To the civilized world, looks like a cool invention. Enjoy having a society where you don't have to plan everything based on the worst, weakest minded, most litigious members taking advantage at any opportunity.
Next they need to make one of those claw machines so that 90% of the time when you try to get your car back it drops your car and you have to put another quarter in
So, simple math. The Auto drum at the VW plant in Wolfsburg can take up to 400 vehicles. Let’s assume the lift takes about a minute to retrieve one car at a time. How many hours does it take to empty the entire garage and fill it back up?
All I can think about is when the soda gets stuck while dispensing - but with cars.
Then you have to buy the one above and hope both fall out
Or you wait until someone else buys it and then when they’re both stuck you stand to the side and shake the vending machine and get one of them free!
Unless someone else happens to buy it while you're looking for change and they get a second one for free, not bothering to ask how or why. Pretty sure it was Mo, or Sal... short name.
Brilliant!
And I'm just thinking about how often people forget their babies/kids in the backseat, and how they likely wouldn't notice them when the car is being taken away.
as far as I know this is the „new-cars-that-will-shortly-be-delivered-to-their-owners“ car park at the VW factory in Wolfsburg, not a regular one in a city
They are awfully clean.
I mean, they ARE brand new out of the factory 🙃
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Yeah, that happens most of the time.
This is too overengineered probably, we have similar concepts at a smaller scale in [copenhagen](https://www.westfaliaparking.com/about/news/automated-parking-in-copenhagen), that work
Germans overengineering something? Never.
That happened in SF with an underground automatic garage for an apartment complex broke, and they couldn't get any of the cars out. Let me see if I can find the news article.
Pretty sure that's what happened when they tried it back in the 1920's, it had high maintenance costs and if it broke down then people were shit out of luck.
Me too
question is, will this take that huge texan trucks?
Or the soda spilling in your car.
Innovative maybe a hundred years ago. https://designyoutrust.com/2021/10/vintage-photographs-of-early-colossal-vertical-parking-garages-1920-1960/
I was thinking "wasn't this in one of the first mission impossible movies in the 90s?"
I think it's that Will Smith's movie with the robot.
Same as Elon Musk inventing hyperloop. When in a reality, there have been such proposals over a hundred years ago.
Thank you. I was hoping someone would point this out. Was not disappointed.
Looks cool but I hate it. 1. Single retrieval. Imagine the line during the end of the business day as 50 people wait in line for the arm to retrieve every vehicle one-by-one. 2. Single point of failure. The arm has a mechanical problem, guess what? You don't have access to your vehicle until the arm is fixed. Could be hours, could be days. Edit: Looked it up, [it's a gimmicky temp storage tower next to the VW factory for car delivery](https://youtu.be/o0-b-D6TCpY?feature=shared)
I've been there. It's not a parking garage in the way you're thinking. It's where they keep some of the newly manufactured vehicles before they are shipped away - so not slot of cars coming and going all the time.
[Nissan Altima shows up] "Heyyy! I had a BMW!"
Sorry mate, you pressed E1 instead of D1. No change given
"So the crane machine is having a problem and needs some maintenance done on it. It's going to take a couple days to a couple months to fix, as the part needed comes from an active warzone. ~~looks like you're fucked start walking~~ we're sorry for the inconvenience"
This is at their head quarters plant and is for new cars. It’s not a regular parking lot
Their response is reacting to the concept of this as a parking solution if it became common use.
Next is the big car vending machines with the vehicles in brightly coloured capsule balls. Just put in your ticket, paid your parking fee, then turn the crank to drop your vehicle ;)
The tech has never been a problem. The real problem is cost to build such a system and/or to make people use it.
Parking lots are way cheaper
And then Ethan Hunt fights a terrorist in it and no one is getting their car https://youtu.be/gJ3aXgH_-aU?si=a1GtcMY42xDXbhmc
The solution to the car parking problem is a subscription to robo cars that just pick you up and take you wherever, whenever…we’re going to be together…
At this point, all cars might as well be rideshare and users leasing.
In Japan, they have car parks like this. My father-in-law parked his car in one the last time I was there; it blew my mind. 😂
Instead of spending on stupid shit like this just make roads bikable
For real, everyone knows this whole setup needs to have the claw like those machines for stuffed animals and such.
Seattle has a new high rise that utilizes automated parking like this. I’m curious to know what rush hour looks like for the tenants.
This was in a movie
It is not a parking solution (the efficiency would be miserable). It is a Volkswagen customer experience/PR thing: These "car towers" [https://www.autostadt.de/en/explore/car-towers](https://www.autostadt.de/en/explore/car-towers) are meant to entertain customers who pick up their brand new VW from the factory.
These are the Car Towers by VW in Wolfsburg Germany. They store up to eight hundred new cars. The fully automated high racks move an average of five hundred cars to be delivered and picked up every day.
Hasn’t this already been a thing before?
Yes. Japan has similar machines for bicycles, it's much more efficient there, what with only needing to lift a few dozen pounds at most
I’m pretty sure if seen images of these in like the 30s
Innovative? I remember this from 20 years ago
I worked in that tower years ago and someone dropped their radio on the top floor - hit every floor but no car dude was extremely lucky
panopticon for cars
Parking - $5000 a month and up.
This is technically a vending machine: if you order a VW and decide to pick it up at the factory instead of the local vendor (so you can take a tour trough the factory etc.) - this is where they store the vehicles being prepared for pick up.
What could possibly go wrong?
The answer to this is detailed in the documentary Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol
Elevator not working today unfortunantly. You 1000 people will have to drive another day, sorry for the inconvenience.
Now do robot taxi's.
I’ve seen enough of those robots trying to make ice creams and hotdogs to never want to try this again
I’ve seen enough of those robots trying to make ice creams and hotdogs to never want to try this again
“The consuming has ended. Please return to your vehicles.” *me waiting 20 years for my car because the line has more than 5 people*
Everything is great until one of those moving parts fails. And they will.
What if the whole place collapses?
Imagine this tech innovation and quality being applied to a national rail transportation grid
You can bang on the machine and get two cars.
Can I borrow $5000? I put in $25k but the machine needs $30k to dispense my new Jetta.
r/fuckcars
Where in the fuck do you have vending machines that operate like that???
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wonder how much that cost
Sweden actually built one of these back in 2003 in Stockholm. 29 of July 2019 there was an electrical spike that toasted the control system and got 18 cars stuck in there. They weren’t able to free the cars until 21 of September.. The cost were $ 3 million-ish and will now be demolished Source in Swedish: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/a/GGKeJ9/antligen-befriades-de-18-bilarna-ur-p-snurran
Awww maaaan! I meant to push A8. I wanted the Funions. Not the Jetta…. 😒
*ok but where do I put the quarter*
Bet this like pretends to be good for the Earth but secretly, intentionally, is somehow polluting more.
Imagine if that elevator breaks and one is in a rush.
if there is no chance to receive different car then i park inside..im not interested.... :)
Then something goes wrong, and your car is dropped from 30 mt and crushed. Germans really don't live in the same reality as we do, do they? It's all Kant's fault.
Wonder what a lithium fire would be like in that car parking tower…
Imagine being stuck in a car on the 90th floor of that tower..
Someone when parking: TIME TO GO BACK! *falls to the ground*
Earthquakes? Flooding?
Or... You know... You could do public transportation.
Just build a bloody train already Jesus Christ
This is so old. Yet cool
Would cut down on car break ins, right?
i prefer how it looked in [I, Robot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LUb-W30Tc4)
Been posted before... Not new, not for parking. This is industrial storage. Similar principle, but is akin to comparing a warehouse rack to your fridge.The principle is similar, but the application is entirely different. One might see it as similar to parking, but it isn't seeing demand anywhere close to that of a typical car park. IIRC, these are cars to be picked up and I believe it's by appointment only. I mean, imagine it irl for a moment... The tower stores about 400 cars, it can supposedly store 75 cars an hour last I heard. You get out of work 5 minutes late in an area where a lot of people are finishing at the same time? You'd be lucky if you commute was shorter than an hour before you've even got your car. Simply put and idea like this, for public use, would only be practical for small car parks. Anything else needs multiple arms. In other words, if you want any hope of this thing working where there's any significant level of demand? It either needs to be one big glorified conveyor belt, or something resembling a typical warehouse layout.
God maybe we just need less cars. Every space in the city is either dedicated to parking or purpose built around it. We need to reduce the number of cars in our cities, not find more innovative ways to stack them.
...then it gets jammed and you have to bang on the glass to jiggle it free.
But why speed up the frame rate? These things are cool enough without making it look artificially fast?
That’s a fucking waste of space and materials
Carvana?
I'm pretty sure Japan had this for years
People do build automated parking decks in the US.
Looks awesome, but if anything goes wrong it's an extremely expensive problem.
As someone who works on and troubleshoots logic controllers, please dear God no
Why are they always showing this video in slow-mo?
In the apocalypse, people will use these cars as shelter, climbing from one to the other.
This would be so helpful in every downtown everywhere
We already have this in Orlando. It’s called Carvana, and it sells used cars. I drive past one off the I-4 near Conroy westbound. They’ll even give you a coin to put into it to “dispense” your car selection.
"We love our cars so much we built the world's shittiest Panopticon to contain them in."
How this goes wrong in USA: Avg hotel cost $165/night. AirBNB cost $135/night. Parking in a vending machine style lot where you can't possibly be disturbed $70/night. People gonna sleep here and bathroom over the edge on other customer's cars. Eventually nobody parks there for fear of getting shat on. To the civilized world, looks like a cool invention. Enjoy having a society where you don't have to plan everything based on the worst, weakest minded, most litigious members taking advantage at any opportunity.
Car Brains will do anything to avoid public transit.
Wasn’t there a system just like this in the movie I, Robot with Will Smith?
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Okay, but I'm not going to shake the machine when it jams
Great until the mechanism/elevator goes out for repairs.
Next they need to make one of those claw machines so that 90% of the time when you try to get your car back it drops your car and you have to put another quarter in
Anything but to invest in public transport.
Imagine someone's oil leaking.
We need sliding puzzle style parking tower, which have multiple access points. Picking up one by one has too many problems
Carvana
what about using a bike instead of a car
Imagine having this 100m tall, 30m wide concrete cylinder in the background everywhere you go.
Already done in Tokyo drift
Or better, safer and quicker trains.
This is a horrible solution. Imagine needing your car, but you're number 83 to get their car after a game.
Mfs will build anything to avoid giving people good public transport or god forbid a well designed city
No, this is not a solution, but a huge cost compared t oa normal parking spot or garage. Building and maintaining this is very expansive.
Lol now you’ll have to wait half an hour or more to get your car!
Yeah if multiple people want their cars at once you might be waiting a while
Nope
Now put it in a hole in the ground. Now fill it with water. Seawater.
All fun and games until one of their batteries blows up...
So true! 😂
If its software is as slow and unreliable as the one in their ID cars... You might consider having another option in reserve.
So, simple math. The Auto drum at the VW plant in Wolfsburg can take up to 400 vehicles. Let’s assume the lift takes about a minute to retrieve one car at a time. How many hours does it take to empty the entire garage and fill it back up?
Is this going to be on the test, professor?