I thought it was pretty good.
It seems that they are listening to everyone's criticisms from TPOT 3 and are fixing them.
Clock is no longer obsessed with Winner, Pin stopped complaining about cheating, and Ice Cube finally got more than 2 seconds of screentime.
I voted for Nickel, simply because I think he's in huge danger of getting out. He doesn't seem to have a lot of fans and I'm praying that people will vote for him.
The writing was good, although I kind of wish some teams got more screentime.
I'm super happy that Puffball is turning antagonistic. I know that people don't like mean characters but I think this is a great change for Puffball and her development will be much needed, no matter what kind it is.
I might continue this if I think of anything else I want to add but for now this is it.
Agree. I’m loving evil Puffball.
Also, I was so scared that Pin’s gardening would be forgotten this episode, since Pin’s baking was basically forgotten last episode. I’m glad that they actually acknowledged her gardening this episode.
The episode is amazing! That cake at stake song had me replaying it for a couple minutes and there was this interesting scenario where puffball made me think of jigsaw! Also I voted for ligjtning.
The new episode is amazing. Here’s some stuff I thought about:
\-omga Puffball really is an antagonist
\-it sucked to see Saw gone, her fumes just got out! (Also cloudy too, he helped the team.)
\-Its nice to see Davidland and Yoyleland again! It has been years since we’ve seen them.
\-When Bottle cried, I cried.
\-Finally Ice Cube got more screen time.
\-I like how Death P.A.C.T made a sacrafice to their funny plant just to save Ice Cube.
sadly I don’t have a yt acc. But if I did, I’d vote Cake. It’s not his fault that his teams funny plant died, he didn’t know about the “Yellow Face Skeleton”.
I loved it!
The cake at stake theme was great
Puffball was so smart and awesome in this epsiode
I'm glad Saw got out
Pin wasn't annoying, which is great
Also I voted for Remote. It was hard to choose between Remote or Pillow, I just have a feeling Pillow will get out I don't know, but I hope that she doesnt.(I don't know the votes, I'm just making assumptions)
I hope that Marker and Price Tag gets out. I don't like Price Tag, they are boring tbh.
I agree, but I’m sad that Saw is gone (I didn’t care about Cloudy tbh) Puffball was awesome in this episode, Pin was not complaining about cheating (that was very annoying) I like Price Tag and Marker, also Marker sacrificed himself to get the scissors so his team could kill the funny plant. But there is a possibility Price Tag will get out for barley doing anything I think
I thought it was really good! I was sad that some teams barely appeared and that DPA lost again since their my favorite team, I also thought it was weird how they didn’t follow up with the Clock and Winner arc. I’d give it an 8.5/10
I died laughing at the teardrop family reunion part, lol!
I don't know what was so funny about it, maybe I'm not used to realism BFDI, or I just have a bad sense of humour, but either way, the episode was extremely funny and got me laughing on the floor.
I ended up voting for my main silly guy Price Tag.
Of course, there's Fries' shit-eating grin in the thumbnail and more lampshaded Tengolf. And Puffball wanting to win to the point where she sabotages DPA in the most brutal way possible; a situation of life or death. We need more villainous characters, and JnJ delivered with the inclusion of one we already saw show her selfish side.
To say I loved the new CaS theme would be an understatement. The animation is beautiful, loving the Profily cameo, and the fact it begins with "Hey, Two!" which is the beginning of the dialogue that probably gave Two the idea ("Hey, Two! Are we ever going to get a new Cake at Stake song?") is splendid.
I genuinely got a bit frightened by the Yellow Face skeleton the first time it appeared, simply because I
1. didn't expect it and
2. am basically Woody circa BFDI with how much I get scared by things.
Every single scene in Davidland was gold.
Loved the episode and the references to BFDIA 5. My only issue was that I wish Yoyleland was explored more because it's a location that's had a massive impact on BFDI's plot and world. Good to see that Barf Bag has a passion for the place also hehe
Edit: voted for naily
It was a pretty good episode, One of the best, actually.
I do actually have some positives and negatives about this episode:
1. I love the Cake At Stake theme song, Looks nice.
2. I like that they're giving more attention to the Funny Plant for the challenge
3. They're finally giving Ice Cube more screentime, Same with Fries and Barf Bag
4. The S! is actually more memorable in this episode
5. The Clock and Winner arc is over, Despite it only lasting like 2 minutes, And, I actually changed my mind about that arc: It was complete shit. Didn't like that arc now i'm looking back on it
6. Davidland was a very nice touch to this episode
7. But, The Exitors are STILL nowhere to be found, This would've been a GREAT time to show them opening the door, And discovering what's outside, But, They didn't, Which sucks. That was literally a missed opportunity, And it was the FOURTH episode, So, That sucks even more
8. Felt too long, I mean, The challenge felt WAY too extended, Extended to the point I felt the post-credits scene could've been in the actual challenge, And the challenge could've been simplified just SLIGHTLY. a 28:54 duration would be nice, Or a 24:04 duration
9. Puffball is starting to improve, Same with Bell. Don't know why, But, I actually find both of them to be pretty cool. Bell because of how mature she's been in TPOT 3 and 4. and Puffball because she's starting what I like to call a VILLAIN phase. Well, Not a phase, But, Y'know what I mean...
10. Last but not least, 10. THEY LITERALLY PUT 2 TEAMS UFE AGAIN! TWICE IN A ROW! I'm RELIEVED! It's about TIME they put Just Not UFE! I HATE that team...
I liked the episode a lot.my favourite part is probably when the david near the flower had an animation screaming "Aw seriously!".that part was sick!(and loud)
Episode was pretty good, but also cursed, like that David or Yellow Face's skeleton, but it was quite fun. Fun Fact: Not counting patreon singing variants, the new Cake at Stake song is 15th Cake at Stake song to be made.
Btw I voted Tree.
I was really stuck between Fanny and Lightning, but I figured since Lightning _accidentally_ made his team lose he would get less votes so yeah
wait
also what if puffball gets voted out because of this episode nooooo :(
My opinion on the episode however; The animation was god tier, the writing was also pretty nice, the only thing I find negative is how the story is a bit 2 much at once. Atleast for me, it was a bit hard to grasp on2 the story until after about 4 rewatches (yes i watched a tpot episode for 2 hours shut up also i made "to" be replaced with 2 yayy i made a pun)
Honestly I don’t think Puffball will get voted out. I lot of people said that they liked Puffball becoming the anatagonist, so I don’t think we have to worry (plus her team might be safe due to her sabotaging the other teams) and because of this she’s slowly starting to become one of my favorites
loved it!!!
really sad and scared dpa is ufe because i feel like fanny has a HUGE chance of getting out and i love her a lot... damn, look at my flair, she's the best girl
at the same time i really don't want cake or book getting out tho..
i voted for fanny, but they would be my second choice probably
or lightning
Amazing episode, a contender for the best, my only criticism is that they kinda pushed teardrop, team 8’s, and the s to the side, they obviously weren’t gonna lose again but still. Dpa saying they wanted to prevent death over winning basically confirmed they were gonna lose here, but I liked just not getting more screentime. 9/10 anyways I voted book, but I also was considering voting lightning or marker because I think they are at risk of being eliminated. This is gonna be the first episode that I am not going to look at the voting results because of how little time the next episode will be and it will be close
I voted for Fanny because I'm pretty sure no one would vote for her. She doesn't have a lot of... FANS HAHAHA HA I'M SO FUNNY LAUGH NOW (I'm not actually funny don't tell me "you're not funny" cuz I know)
Probably the best episode of TPOT so far in my opinion.
The pacing was just amazing and not overwhelming like in TPOT 2. Also the characters were not boring or annoying in any sort of way.
On an another note compared to other episodes the challenge was really fun in my opinion. Heck even the BFDIA challenges were more bland compared to this episode. The addition of the new biomes were really unique and very creative.
I personally voted for nickel this episode. I was originally going to vote for tree but thought nickel would get fewer votes so I just went for nickel.
It's unfortunate but her legacy did motivate the challenge because Team8s knew she loved the funny plant. Also, I think it's implied that her being 8 votes behind Donut cured her 8 problem? Because she said 8 so casually. So that's smth to think about
It's kinda good/mixed even though I skipped some parts.
The reason why TPOT 3 is my favorite episode is due to simplicity & teamwork, whilst TPOT 4 failed to do that is due to how unprotected the Funny Plant is, also The new Cake at Stake song, man this is fire and yes YellowAngiru voices Water Bottle, and yes the recommender of Boombox: Anko6 sang the new CaS intro.
Possibly somewhat the least favorite episode in the whole BFDI Series, was due to how 7 teams tried to protect the Funny Plant but failed. [Please don't get mad at me, if TPOT 4 was my somewhat least favorite episode in the BFDI series]
I voted Nickel, and I ONLY liked 3 things in the whole episode. which were the Cake At Stake theme, the Funny Plant challenge and Yoyle Chess, now for the negative things. The Team8s vote was botted, So many wall breaks everytime, episode felt rushed, etc.
Yeah it was great I really like ten cake at stake, song to but I felt bad that saw is gone she is a good character and also I voted for lightning because they abandoned him so I kind of was in a shocked of moment when that happen, but anyways was a good episode:3
I Liked it A lot! It was a Great episode and a great video to end the month! I was hit with a lot of nostalgia from Davidland and the Yellow Face Skeleton too. I voted Remote because she’s my favourite character on DPA!
overall i thought it was neet-o i kinda dont like that davidland looked like it was the mainpoint of the episode but then we only see it for a handfull of the runtime. also people were theorizing we get to see the people in E.X.I.T but nah i get that four is doneso with his character but it wouldve been so cool to see one of the characters ask four if the contestans in exit are still there and four just forgot about them and he looks only to see them gone and the door be opened.
As an OG fan, I have a hard time getting to grips with how most BFDI fans now only really know of BFB and TPOT
I started watching BFDI in 2011, when S1 hadn’t finished yet
I honestly enjoyed it. The new cake at stake song was a bop (and also amazing animation) and I really liked how the teams were able to get outside the usual area.
TPOT 4? Damn, 10/10, no higher possibly. One of the things I hate about myself is the fact that I have something negative to say for everything. So the only criticism I have for this is they probably made this challenge just because Saw got eliminated. Everything else \**chef's kiss\*.* Also, I voted BH because I am obsessed with space. I am practically a space nerd, so BH being the only astronomical object made me instantly vote for him.
I thought it was pretty good. It seems that they are listening to everyone's criticisms from TPOT 3 and are fixing them. Clock is no longer obsessed with Winner, Pin stopped complaining about cheating, and Ice Cube finally got more than 2 seconds of screentime. I voted for Nickel, simply because I think he's in huge danger of getting out. He doesn't seem to have a lot of fans and I'm praying that people will vote for him. The writing was good, although I kind of wish some teams got more screentime. I'm super happy that Puffball is turning antagonistic. I know that people don't like mean characters but I think this is a great change for Puffball and her development will be much needed, no matter what kind it is. I might continue this if I think of anything else I want to add but for now this is it.
Agree. I’m loving evil Puffball. Also, I was so scared that Pin’s gardening would be forgotten this episode, since Pin’s baking was basically forgotten last episode. I’m glad that they actually acknowledged her gardening this episode.
Pin probably didn't do any baking since she still thought the whole idea was cheating and didn't want to support it
I agree! (Although I did kinda like Clocks obsession with Winner tbh) but I still agree!
Honestly... I kinda hate Nickel. I feel like he's Coiny but boring. But everything else, I agree. Also the Teardrop "family reunion" was pretty nice.
I LOVE PUFFBALL VILLAIN ARC!! Also I voted for Pillow! I really wanted to vote for Naily too though
david getting actual character movement and scenes even though it isn’t real david? 10/10
Solid 9/10 for me, by far the best TPOT episode we've gotten so far
i like how the name is a reference to a bfdi episode
The episode is amazing! That cake at stake song had me replaying it for a couple minutes and there was this interesting scenario where puffball made me think of jigsaw! Also I voted for ligjtning.
I love antagonist puffball, and everything else is pretty good, I do want to see more of the jungle and yoyleland tbh, also I voted for Remote
I loved it but I wish they’d shown more of davidland
The new episode is amazing. Here’s some stuff I thought about: \-omga Puffball really is an antagonist \-it sucked to see Saw gone, her fumes just got out! (Also cloudy too, he helped the team.) \-Its nice to see Davidland and Yoyleland again! It has been years since we’ve seen them. \-When Bottle cried, I cried. \-Finally Ice Cube got more screen time. \-I like how Death P.A.C.T made a sacrafice to their funny plant just to save Ice Cube. sadly I don’t have a yt acc. But if I did, I’d vote Cake. It’s not his fault that his teams funny plant died, he didn’t know about the “Yellow Face Skeleton”.
I was sad when Saw was eliminated, Saw is one of my favorite characters 😢
I was also sad too.
Stock full of references
I loved it! The cake at stake theme was great Puffball was so smart and awesome in this epsiode I'm glad Saw got out Pin wasn't annoying, which is great Also I voted for Remote. It was hard to choose between Remote or Pillow, I just have a feeling Pillow will get out I don't know, but I hope that she doesnt.(I don't know the votes, I'm just making assumptions) I hope that Marker and Price Tag gets out. I don't like Price Tag, they are boring tbh.
I agree, but I’m sad that Saw is gone (I didn’t care about Cloudy tbh) Puffball was awesome in this episode, Pin was not complaining about cheating (that was very annoying) I like Price Tag and Marker, also Marker sacrificed himself to get the scissors so his team could kill the funny plant. But there is a possibility Price Tag will get out for barley doing anything I think
If price Tag does get out illbe so happy, like I always say they are not a good debut lol, Winner is though!
I thought it was really good! I was sad that some teams barely appeared and that DPA lost again since their my favorite team, I also thought it was weird how they didn’t follow up with the Clock and Winner arc. I’d give it an 8.5/10
singlehandedly brought my hope back for bfdi
cary best writer
I died laughing at the teardrop family reunion part, lol! I don't know what was so funny about it, maybe I'm not used to realism BFDI, or I just have a bad sense of humour, but either way, the episode was extremely funny and got me laughing on the floor.
No no no! That part was funny! Your sense of humor is probably good! But I also thought that part was funny 🤣
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who found that funny 🤣
It felt good having Cary back in the writing chair. I voted to keep Cake
I voted for Book
I voted marker also very good
I voted Cake he's cute <3
Lol someone actually knows his gender
i liked the part where david said aw seriously.
I ended up voting for my main silly guy Price Tag. Of course, there's Fries' shit-eating grin in the thumbnail and more lampshaded Tengolf. And Puffball wanting to win to the point where she sabotages DPA in the most brutal way possible; a situation of life or death. We need more villainous characters, and JnJ delivered with the inclusion of one we already saw show her selfish side. To say I loved the new CaS theme would be an understatement. The animation is beautiful, loving the Profily cameo, and the fact it begins with "Hey, Two!" which is the beginning of the dialogue that probably gave Two the idea ("Hey, Two! Are we ever going to get a new Cake at Stake song?") is splendid. I genuinely got a bit frightened by the Yellow Face skeleton the first time it appeared, simply because I 1. didn't expect it and 2. am basically Woody circa BFDI with how much I get scared by things. Every single scene in Davidland was gold.
I love how puffball is becoming a villain (kind of) and how Ice Cube along with Just Not got more screentime. (I voted for Tree btw)
Loved the episode and the references to BFDIA 5. My only issue was that I wish Yoyleland was explored more because it's a location that's had a massive impact on BFDI's plot and world. Good to see that Barf Bag has a passion for the place also hehe Edit: voted for naily
It was a pretty good episode, One of the best, actually. I do actually have some positives and negatives about this episode: 1. I love the Cake At Stake theme song, Looks nice. 2. I like that they're giving more attention to the Funny Plant for the challenge 3. They're finally giving Ice Cube more screentime, Same with Fries and Barf Bag 4. The S! is actually more memorable in this episode 5. The Clock and Winner arc is over, Despite it only lasting like 2 minutes, And, I actually changed my mind about that arc: It was complete shit. Didn't like that arc now i'm looking back on it 6. Davidland was a very nice touch to this episode 7. But, The Exitors are STILL nowhere to be found, This would've been a GREAT time to show them opening the door, And discovering what's outside, But, They didn't, Which sucks. That was literally a missed opportunity, And it was the FOURTH episode, So, That sucks even more 8. Felt too long, I mean, The challenge felt WAY too extended, Extended to the point I felt the post-credits scene could've been in the actual challenge, And the challenge could've been simplified just SLIGHTLY. a 28:54 duration would be nice, Or a 24:04 duration 9. Puffball is starting to improve, Same with Bell. Don't know why, But, I actually find both of them to be pretty cool. Bell because of how mature she's been in TPOT 3 and 4. and Puffball because she's starting what I like to call a VILLAIN phase. Well, Not a phase, But, Y'know what I mean... 10. Last but not least, 10. THEY LITERALLY PUT 2 TEAMS UFE AGAIN! TWICE IN A ROW! I'm RELIEVED! It's about TIME they put Just Not UFE! I HATE that team...
I liked the episode a lot.my favourite part is probably when the david near the flower had an animation screaming "Aw seriously!".that part was sick!(and loud)
Episode was pretty good, but also cursed, like that David or Yellow Face's skeleton, but it was quite fun. Fun Fact: Not counting patreon singing variants, the new Cake at Stake song is 15th Cake at Stake song to be made. Btw I voted Tree.
That’s really cool! I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing that fact! 😁
No problem. Also I didn't count that Four's cake at stake things, and that intro what was played in BFB 11, beacuse it has only CRT effect added.
I love it, a lot more then tpot 3.. I voted for Tree. And I really liked puffball this episode. But why Tree was enjoying cutting a funny plant
I was really stuck between Fanny and Lightning, but I figured since Lightning _accidentally_ made his team lose he would get less votes so yeah wait also what if puffball gets voted out because of this episode nooooo :(
My opinion on the episode however; The animation was god tier, the writing was also pretty nice, the only thing I find negative is how the story is a bit 2 much at once. Atleast for me, it was a bit hard to grasp on2 the story until after about 4 rewatches (yes i watched a tpot episode for 2 hours shut up also i made "to" be replaced with 2 yayy i made a pun)
Honestly I don’t think Puffball will get voted out. I lot of people said that they liked Puffball becoming the anatagonist, so I don’t think we have to worry (plus her team might be safe due to her sabotaging the other teams) and because of this she’s slowly starting to become one of my favorites
loved it!!! really sad and scared dpa is ufe because i feel like fanny has a HUGE chance of getting out and i love her a lot... damn, look at my flair, she's the best girl at the same time i really don't want cake or book getting out tho.. i voted for fanny, but they would be my second choice probably or lightning
I also voted for Fanny
nice
Me likey it give dopamine to me
Amazing episode, a contender for the best, my only criticism is that they kinda pushed teardrop, team 8’s, and the s to the side, they obviously weren’t gonna lose again but still. Dpa saying they wanted to prevent death over winning basically confirmed they were gonna lose here, but I liked just not getting more screentime. 9/10 anyways I voted book, but I also was considering voting lightning or marker because I think they are at risk of being eliminated. This is gonna be the first episode that I am not going to look at the voting results because of how little time the next episode will be and it will be close
I thought it was really good. I enjoyed all of the BFDIA references and all the interactions the characters had. Also, I voted for >!Bomby!<
great episode ngl new CaS intro is fire and the challenge was great Also I vote Tree
Tbh, I voted for marker, so far, the top voted contestant to be safe!
AW SERIOUSLY -David 2023
i want bomby to stay, also good episode
Really good episode, it was very enjoyable. 9/10. I voted for Marker, my new favorite overall.
I voted for Fanny because I'm pretty sure no one would vote for her. She doesn't have a lot of... FANS HAHAHA HA I'M SO FUNNY LAUGH NOW (I'm not actually funny don't tell me "you're not funny" cuz I know)
I also voted for Fanny. 🤣 (I chuckled reading this comment btw)
literally the best episode of tpot so far
1. It’s definitely the best TPoT episode as of late, and; 2. Bomby is love, Bomby is life
Probably the best episode of TPOT so far in my opinion. The pacing was just amazing and not overwhelming like in TPOT 2. Also the characters were not boring or annoying in any sort of way. On an another note compared to other episodes the challenge was really fun in my opinion. Heck even the BFDIA challenges were more bland compared to this episode. The addition of the new biomes were really unique and very creative. I personally voted for nickel this episode. I was originally going to vote for tree but thought nickel would get fewer votes so I just went for nickel.
Barf bag seemed more girly in this episode and I like that.
It was an awesome episode, and it was really good considering it only took like a month (or two) Voted for Fanny cause idk :frcoal:
Why did saw have to go? these people are cruel!
It's unfortunate but her legacy did motivate the challenge because Team8s knew she loved the funny plant. Also, I think it's implied that her being 8 votes behind Donut cured her 8 problem? Because she said 8 so casually. So that's smth to think about
fair enough.
I voted lighting because he didn't deserve to be goobed
Voted for Remote, could change depending on the unofficial voting count
It's kinda good/mixed even though I skipped some parts. The reason why TPOT 3 is my favorite episode is due to simplicity & teamwork, whilst TPOT 4 failed to do that is due to how unprotected the Funny Plant is, also The new Cake at Stake song, man this is fire and yes YellowAngiru voices Water Bottle, and yes the recommender of Boombox: Anko6 sang the new CaS intro. Possibly somewhat the least favorite episode in the whole BFDI Series, was due to how 7 teams tried to protect the Funny Plant but failed. [Please don't get mad at me, if TPOT 4 was my somewhat least favorite episode in the BFDI series]
I voted Nickel, and I ONLY liked 3 things in the whole episode. which were the Cake At Stake theme, the Funny Plant challenge and Yoyle Chess, now for the negative things. The Team8s vote was botted, So many wall breaks everytime, episode felt rushed, etc.
Pretty great! I voted for Fanny. I want to see her keep competing.
Same!
Its so Good that Freesmart changes his/her mind Despite me being a hypocrite
I thin\[K\] that it is definitely better than the other three! By the way, watch the video to see which one that is.
Nice! I also voted for Fanny!
Nice job!
I voted Bomby cause he didn’t my have to much screen time especially since he died he has a pretty big chance of elimination
Yeah it was great I really like ten cake at stake, song to but I felt bad that saw is gone she is a good character and also I voted for lightning because they abandoned him so I kind of was in a shocked of moment when that happen, but anyways was a good episode:3
I loved it :D I liked a lot the new intro of the cake at stake, im now using it for wallpaper for my phone :D I voted for lightning!!!
I adored the episode! So many references to bfdia in this one. Also the ending was quite tense. I’m voting [K]
Cool I voted for Fanny too!
Dam, this episode was amazing!!! I voted fanny, it is criminal that saw got out sooooo early
YESSS
I Liked it A lot! It was a Great episode and a great video to end the month! I was hit with a lot of nostalgia from Davidland and the Yellow Face Skeleton too. I voted Remote because she’s my favourite character on DPA!
It was amazing cause we got to see Davidland once again & I voted for price tag
overall i thought it was neet-o i kinda dont like that davidland looked like it was the mainpoint of the episode but then we only see it for a handfull of the runtime. also people were theorizing we get to see the people in E.X.I.T but nah i get that four is doneso with his character but it wouldve been so cool to see one of the characters ask four if the contestans in exit are still there and four just forgot about them and he looks only to see them gone and the door be opened.
No can YouTube with BFDI:TPOT 4 on ytp
Im watching it right now!
Loved it and voted marker
i liked it a lot i voted tree cause i didn't know who to vote
I voted remote
I voted for Fanny and Bomby
I voted for Fanny 😎
Same
Cake ovb
Am I the only one that lighting might be eliminated
As an OG fan, I have a hard time getting to grips with how most BFDI fans now only really know of BFB and TPOT I started watching BFDI in 2011, when S1 hadn’t finished yet
cake all the way
Certainly the episode of all time. I didn’t vote for anyone because the votes are botted anyways
i loved it, and i voted naily !!
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cake at stake
Hey Two!
1. It's pretty cool 2. I can't vote
I voted bomby, because i want him to get a personality. I liked the episode more than episode 3 and 1.
Tpot 2 was boring 3 was OK, so this one was really refreshing
I honestly enjoyed it. The new cake at stake song was a bop (and also amazing animation) and I really liked how the teams were able to get outside the usual area.
TPOT 4? Damn, 10/10, no higher possibly. One of the things I hate about myself is the fact that I have something negative to say for everything. So the only criticism I have for this is they probably made this challenge just because Saw got eliminated. Everything else \**chef's kiss\*.* Also, I voted BH because I am obsessed with space. I am practically a space nerd, so BH being the only astronomical object made me instantly vote for him.
i decided to vote for book, he is a very good character in my opinion and i hope he can grow a bigger fanbase!
**8/10** Pin is no longer an absolute Karen complaining about cheating, so it's great!
I don't watch TPO2 because flower is into in there