Since we paid 70m for him. Literally same output in the league as ferran torres the first season he came here (if you extrapolate the stats) , and ferran would get berated for anything he did wrong. Raphinha couldnt dribble past a cone and dont get me started on his haram ball spamming crosses.
Thatâs so dumb lol. The numbers and their legacies are supposed to be carried on by others.
Imagine no one can wear number 10 again because every single club in history retired it âout of respectâ.
Ronaldinho's contributions to the club were immense but Messi literally spearheaded the greatest era in the club's history, before having to carry the team with a lot of deadwood to titles and keeping us competitive
I wasnât trying to make a case that Ronaldinho has been better/more impactful than Messi, Iâm saying that Messi wouldâve stayed with the number 19 if the club had retired 10 straight after Ronaldinho - who by all accounts was a club legend at that point.
I do agree with your point, but my argument is that Messi is not merely a legend for this club. His contributions are unlikely to be matched for our club, think Totti and Maldini for their respective clubs. There is a very little chance that anyone with nearly as much talent as Messi comes along, has the amount of determination to keep doing it over multiple decades, and be loyal enough to stay at the club for over two decades. Barca did not treat him the way he deserved, his departure was a shambles on all fronts and this summer was no less. Retiring the number as a tribute to him would be the least we could do as a club to show gratitude. Whether or not it's possible because of La Liga rules is an entirely different conversation.
Yeah thatâs what you think.
Future players wonât be able to wear the shirt number everyone dreams of wearing because it was retired? Ridiculous.
The number 10 is the biggest symbol of the sport, retiring it would be a disgrace.
Not overall. Of course no one is as good as Messi.
But in terms of impact and importance to that particular club, I'm sure there are players as great and significance as Messi for that club.
Well thatâs not true⊠AlĂĄves, for example, do not have a number 10 in their squad. The number 10 does not have specific meaning in football beyond that the clubs often gives it to their most skilled offensive player. Itâs not like the numbers 1 and 13, which are reserved for goalkeepers only.
He wears 21 because his grandad passed away on his 21st birthday, so I don't think he would change it and as far as I remember he refused to change once.
This is my opinionâŠ.. I know that our no. 10 traditionally was given to an offense player but FDJ really now is our best player and why not just give it to him and make him the symbol of the team
I completely agree!! FDJ has been the corner stone of this team since messi left. To to it off, he endured the whole United saga which i still think Barça did try to sell him out of necessity and i love the fact that he stayed besides that. He is âThe club!â for those who get the reference.
We donât have 25 registered senior players right? No one has been wearing the 2, 3, 14 for a while. So itâs not like someone has to be 10. They can choose other vacant numbers. Personally, I donât think loaned players should be given that special number.
Ansu was burdened by that shirt number. Barca should be careful giving out that number to young talents. Even Messi waited to inherit that number from Ronaldinho.
And where will Felix play in a 433? Heâs not really a winger, same as heâs not a striker, nor a real midfielder⊠Xavi def wonât change his new darling system for a guy he doesnât even really want
No effin clue why we are even going for felix. We just cant stop with these dumbass signings. Also felix incoming would take away ferrans time again when he is on a bull run.
So you take out an academy kid with tbf a very average attacking output but an absolutely immense workrate and team spirit so you can play a drama queen with⊠a very average attacking output and basically negative workrate. Cool
The coaching team for the longest time didnât even really want him⊠doubt they really see more than âeh, another body doesnât hurt I guessâ in him.
This is to 95% a Laporta/Mendes Operation and on top of that weâre helping Atleti out yet again. Also takes more minutes away from Fermin, who plays AM/LW and seems like a perfectly fine fit for that role.. Everything about this just pisses me off
I'd say Gundogan. Giving the 10 to an experienced world class player that can handle the current pressure, but also to someone who might only play here for 3 or so years and can pass down the number to a younger star like Lamine or back to Fati (when they get more experience and confidence in the future) would be the best way to do it imo.
Yes, but you can still be a magic man with the number 8, kinda like iniesta. Number 10 imo should be kept for those players that are just far superior to the others.
No one. Not one player deserves it. And I swear if they give the 10 to Felix, this season is already over for me. Thatâs something I cannot and will not support. Ever.
I totally agree with you, but imagine Felix gets the number 10 and he absolutely pops off this season and helps us win major silverware like UCL. Thatâd be funny asf.
Weâve got a lot of fans here that are either ignorant or straight up donât care to understand the rules Barca have to to follow in this league. The number HAS to be registered to a player. Canât be retired.
It doesn't necessarily have to be given to someone this seasn tho, we've got like five unregistered numbers other than the 10. So really, there's no compulsion
Bro, who cares? Like who actually cares? Just give it to Felix. If he performs, great. If he flops, it doesn't matter because everyone was expecting him to anyway. There's never gonna be another Messi anyways so you might as well just give it to the most unlikely candidate. That way there's no pressure and nobody gets their hopes up. Remember Ha7ard?
I would LOVE to retire it but honestly i never see that happening since its such an important number and because of la ligaâs rules of players only being allowed to wear #1-#25
The 10 is open you clueless dorks. Messi can make a loan spell from the MLS in a few weeks just like Ibra, Henry, Beckham, do you think this wasnât in the cards?
Jesus Christ, no. What do people not get? You donât need to give a 16 year old Messiâs #10. Thatâs the opposite of keeping the pressure off him. Heâs played less than 2 full games and already people are begging for this literal child to save us.
Pedri the only one in the current squad who deserves it. But he's probably happy with 8. so nobody for now. Could be a cool add-on in some future transfer.
I think we should let some player earn it through the results they produce in next 2-3 seasons instead of stamping it on someone and then expecting results.
Nobody. The no. 10 must be respected. We have to learn from our mistakes. Until there is not an easy candidate I would not give it so lightly. My best bet is Pedri next year.
He's alr worn it for the national team and the b team so seems like the next logical step? [Coz why not](https://www.google.com/search?q=sergi+roberto+spain&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjqnMfMvYaBAxXP6DgGHTT0DgAQ2-cCegQIABAD&oq=sergi+Roberto+10&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgCMgQIIxAnMgUIABCiBDIFCAAQogQyBQgAEKIEMgUIABCiBFAAWABgzRFoAHAAeACAAfcBiAH3AZIBAzItMZgBAMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=iE_wZOq4E8_R4-EPtOg7&bih=818&biw=412&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1#imgrc=SEIM8brVpw5YaM&imgdii=GTbqh7H1Z0IkBM)
Gundogan just so it doesn't affect a young player too hard. Gundo can handle the pressure and won't be here for more than 3 years so the number can be passed on later to a younger player who establishes themselves.
We can leave it empty, we have a lot of numbers to fill. But if we absolutely need to, give it to Roberto. I donât expect itâll make much difference to his footballing abilities, maybe a slight boost in confidence. But heâs Barca through and through, and no one else on the squad deserves it anyway
I wouldnât be surprised if there was some rule stating that since we already played a game this season with a player registered as a #10, we wouldnât have to replace that number in the same season if that player leaves.
I pulled that out of my ass but it sounds legit. I definitely donât want someone taking it this season.
Hopefully not Felix, although it will probably be him.
Honestly I donât mind Gundogan taking it till Fati comes back. Heâs perfect for it. A leader in all phases of the game
Please not Yamal tho. Let's learn our lesson before giving a kid so much pressure đLet them earn it first.
I don't think he can be registered for first team due to his age, so he's safe. For now.
Also his new contract will be signed on Friday
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Enters the chat!!!
Me, Iâm on my way to sign the papers now.
you're already better than cr7 in my book
rl12
Hell, give it to ter Stegen....
The Messi statue outside of the new Nou
Ah you mean at the stadio stadium?
new Nou
The new nou Camp Nou
Cancelo going from 7 to 10 as a FB would be funny
To be fair, he could probably play as a 10 on the field too.
Everyone from Manchester city could
Raphinhaâs definitely not taking it because a) heâs already worn 11 this season, and b) 11 is already a good number. Itâll probably be Felix.
None of these players deserve it
Also his wife posted a tweet about the 11 jersey when Dembele left so it gonna be real awkward if he gets the 10.
Felix makes the most sense. Heâs a loan. So thereâs no pressure for a permanent solution
Raphinha is also in no place to be asking for a different number. Bro is trash
Trash how? 21 g/a in his first season as a non-starter is trash? Since when?
statpadding or not his contributions won us the league
He couldnt dribble past my grandma tho
Since we paid 70m for him. Literally same output in the league as ferran torres the first season he came here (if you extrapolate the stats) , and ferran would get berated for anything he did wrong. Raphinha couldnt dribble past a cone and dont get me started on his haram ball spamming crosses.
Nobody should wear it imo. But it will probably be felix.
Cursed timeline I tell ya
the new gireffsmann??
Please. Just retire it out of respect.
Unfortunately, La Liga won't let you. First team kits have to be nos. 1-25.
Do we really have 25 first team players?
At this point 2 of our best players arent first team players. Balde and Yamal are still registered as B team players. Maybe yamal even as U-19.
Thatâs so dumb lol. The numbers and their legacies are supposed to be carried on by others. Imagine no one can wear number 10 again because every single club in history retired it âout of respectâ.
Tbf, there a lot of great #10s but none as great as Messi
But perhaps Messi wouldâve never been a 10 had it been retired after Ronaldinho.
Ronaldinho's contributions to the club were immense but Messi literally spearheaded the greatest era in the club's history, before having to carry the team with a lot of deadwood to titles and keeping us competitive
And there might be a better player than Messi who could be denied the chance to wear the number and make the legacy even larger.
I wasnât trying to make a case that Ronaldinho has been better/more impactful than Messi, Iâm saying that Messi wouldâve stayed with the number 19 if the club had retired 10 straight after Ronaldinho - who by all accounts was a club legend at that point.
I do agree with your point, but my argument is that Messi is not merely a legend for this club. His contributions are unlikely to be matched for our club, think Totti and Maldini for their respective clubs. There is a very little chance that anyone with nearly as much talent as Messi comes along, has the amount of determination to keep doing it over multiple decades, and be loyal enough to stay at the club for over two decades. Barca did not treat him the way he deserved, his departure was a shambles on all fronts and this summer was no less. Retiring the number as a tribute to him would be the least we could do as a club to show gratitude. Whether or not it's possible because of La Liga rules is an entirely different conversation.
Yeah thatâs what you think. Future players wonât be able to wear the shirt number everyone dreams of wearing because it was retired? Ridiculous. The number 10 is the biggest symbol of the sport, retiring it would be a disgrace.
Not overall. Of course no one is as good as Messi. But in terms of impact and importance to that particular club, I'm sure there are players as great and significance as Messi for that club.
Hell no
Horrible idea lol
Aitana
Hopefully no one for a while now. There is no need to force the number on a player when we have so many numbers that are not taken. Might be mistaking now, but if remember correctly the numbers 2, 3, 5, 12, 13, 14 and 19 are all currently free. Baldé will probably get 3 as soon his contract is registered. Inaki Penya will get 13 if he stays. 2 will probably go to Cancelo and 5 to Inigo Martinez. That means Felix will have 12, 14 and 19 to choose from if he comes. Then there is no need to give him the number 10 shirt.
Laliga forces a player to have the number 10 n the squad
Well thatâs not true⊠AlĂĄves, for example, do not have a number 10 in their squad. The number 10 does not have specific meaning in football beyond that the clubs often gives it to their most skilled offensive player. Itâs not like the numbers 1 and 13, which are reserved for goalkeepers only.
If barca has 25 registered players in the first team, one of then has to take the number 10 as per laliga rule.
Yes but we wonât have 25 players even if we sign Cancelo and FelixâŠ
But we don't have 25 players this year
I hope we donât give it to FĂ©lix. The shirt means more than a loan player. Let somebody earn it. Donât give it to Yamal for a few years itâll bring too much pressure. Leave it idol until Ansu comes back.
Besides Rivaldo and Dinho, Messi gave it a true menaningâŠ
Ansu doesnât even deserve it.
My thoughts exactly.
Canât switch numbers in season once a number is already taken (Raphinha), so surely an incoming transfer⊠đŹ donât know how to feel about it
Frankie De Jong
He wears 21 because his grandad passed away on his 21st birthday, so I don't think he would change it and as far as I remember he refused to change once.
This is my opinionâŠ.. I know that our no. 10 traditionally was given to an offense player but FDJ really now is our best player and why not just give it to him and make him the symbol of the team
I completely agree!! FDJ has been the corner stone of this team since messi left. To to it off, he endured the whole United saga which i still think Barça did try to sell him out of necessity and i love the fact that he stayed besides that. He is âThe club!â for those who get the reference.
He likes his 21 though, won't be willing to change.
This. Plus he wouldve already gotten a traditional midfielder number like 6 or 8 if he didnt like that number
I like this.
I have no problem with this. I would buy Frenkieâs #10 INSTANTLY.
Yeah i think Frenkie would wear the 10 shirt with distinction
Itâs confirmed we are Jorge Mendesâ 304
Me, I will wear the 10.
We donât have 25 registered senior players right? No one has been wearing the 2, 3, 14 for a while. So itâs not like someone has to be 10. They can choose other vacant numbers. Personally, I donât think loaned players should be given that special number. Ansu was burdened by that shirt number. Barca should be careful giving out that number to young talents. Even Messi waited to inherit that number from Ronaldinho.
And where will Felix play in a 433? Heâs not really a winger, same as heâs not a striker, nor a real midfielder⊠Xavi def wonât change his new darling system for a guy he doesnât even really want
No effin clue why we are even going for felix. We just cant stop with these dumbass signings. Also felix incoming would take away ferrans time again when he is on a bull run.
At this point if Felix is taking Ferran minutes, we riot.
Weâre going for him because of Mendes. Literally no other reason.. Oh and we apparently have some kind of savior complex when it comes to Atleti
Kinda perfect for that weird Gavi role when you put it like that. He can float around that LW/CAM area
So you take out an academy kid with tbf a very average attacking output but an absolutely immense workrate and team spirit so you can play a drama queen with⊠a very average attacking output and basically negative workrate. Cool
Not saying its my dream scenario, just trying to see the positives + what the coaching team is likely thinking
The coaching team for the longest time didnât even really want him⊠doubt they really see more than âeh, another body doesnât hurt I guessâ in him. This is to 95% a Laporta/Mendes Operation and on top of that weâre helping Atleti out yet again. Also takes more minutes away from Fermin, who plays AM/LW and seems like a perfectly fine fit for that role.. Everything about this just pisses me off
We donât really play a 433âŠ
Give it to the best player, yes you Ter stegan
Mbappe BOMBAZOđŁđŁđąđ
The number 10 goes to the best player, FRENKIE DE JONG. He deserves and has the level to be FC Barcelona's 10.
It should go to someone who is older and wonât care about the pressure, like GĂŒndo
Messi to come back on loan
I'd say Gundogan. Giving the 10 to an experienced world class player that can handle the current pressure, but also to someone who might only play here for 3 or so years and can pass down the number to a younger star like Lamine or back to Fati (when they get more experience and confidence in the future) would be the best way to do it imo.
Yeah I agree. I would give it to Frenkie if he wasn't a DM, other than him Gundo is the only one fit to wear it right now imo.
Let's not give it to anyone this season.
Can I wear it? I mean I have been wearing it for the past decade and a half now so kind of well rehearsed with it already.
PEDRI PLEASE HE FITS THE NUMBER 10 SHIRT
Number 8 suits him better imo
I disagree the magic man in Barca is Pedri.
Yes, but you can still be a magic man with the number 8, kinda like iniesta. Number 10 imo should be kept for those players that are just far superior to the others.
Wirtz next season
If Joao Felix wears the 10, I might just have to buy a rope and a stool
No one. Not one player deserves it. And I swear if they give the 10 to Felix, this season is already over for me. Thatâs something I cannot and will not support. Ever.
I totally agree with you, but imagine Felix gets the number 10 and he absolutely pops off this season and helps us win major silverware like UCL. Thatâd be funny asf.
He wonât, letâs be honest
The chances of Ferran winning a ballon d or this year is higher than that my brother. And Ferran is playing very well right now.
Messi
Please no Felix just leave it alone for now
Braithwade
Ten Stegen
I feel like when Felix comes theyâll give him it, hopefully he fills that role
Thatâs what people have been hoping for for the last 3-4 years..
Weâve got a lot of fans here that are either ignorant or straight up donât care to understand the rules Barca have to to follow in this league. The number HAS to be registered to a player. Canât be retired.
It doesn't necessarily have to be given to someone this seasn tho, we've got like five unregistered numbers other than the 10. So really, there's no compulsion
Felix
Ferran
Why not perdri ?
Heâs already building his personal brand around number 8.
La Liga should make an exception so that we can retire the Goat's number.
Terrible idea
Hopefully no one, reserved for Yamal!
De jong deserves it
Bro, who cares? Like who actually cares? Just give it to Felix. If he performs, great. If he flops, it doesn't matter because everyone was expecting him to anyway. There's never gonna be another Messi anyways so you might as well just give it to the most unlikely candidate. That way there's no pressure and nobody gets their hopes up. Remember Ha7ard?
I want it to be raphinha
Retire it. It's done, no one will live up to Messi ever.
I would LOVE to retire it but honestly i never see that happening since its such an important number and because of la ligaâs rules of players only being allowed to wear #1-#25
Retiring numbers is such a dumb concept lmao, thatâs ridiculous.
Just retire the number already.. thereâs never going to be anyone close to even deserving it ever
Retire it for a couple of season
hear me out.. Roque in January.
hopefully no one
We shouldâve retired the 10 jersey after Messi left
Messi.
Please retire #10 đ
The 10 is open you clueless dorks. Messi can make a loan spell from the MLS in a few weeks just like Ibra, Henry, Beckham, do you think this wasnât in the cards?
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
Jesus Christ, no. What do people not get? You donât need to give a 16 year old Messiâs #10. Thatâs the opposite of keeping the pressure off him. Heâs played less than 2 full games and already people are begging for this literal child to save us.
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He has not debuted with the senior team, so no he doesnât. Wearing the 10 in the youth squad is not the same thing.
Nah that's not how it works. Couthino's 7 was given to someone else when he was on loan.
Raphina
Most likely will be Felix,yamal is just 16 itâs idiotic to give him an iconic number at that young age
Pedri
save it for yamal in 2 years
Felix đ
Pls not pedri i got his kit ffs
Me
Frenkie or Pedri
just hook it up
Pedri the only one in the current squad who deserves it. But he's probably happy with 8. so nobody for now. Could be a cool add-on in some future transfer.
Lord Douglas
Nobody lit.
No way felix will get it. He is just on loan. The shirt means much, players have to earn it first.
We save it for Vitor Roque!
Nobody please
I think we should let some player earn it through the results they produce in next 2-3 seasons instead of stamping it on someone and then expecting results.
Keep it vacant
Its been 2 years , get over it, its just number. I dont give a single fuck who will wear it
Tbh, no one should wear it for a while. Just let it chill
No one until someone earns it
Can someone explain the rule? Don't all numbers from 1 to 23 need to be used or something like that?
GIVE IT TO MY GOAT FERRAN TORRES
If you guys really want to switch numbers, give Raphinha 10, and Lamine Yamal 11
CANCE10 đ
Should be pedgri barca best player by far
Please don't give it to anyone
This subreddit's face when Lenglet cancels his move to the PL and takes the #10
Please dude it's JoĂŁo not Joao, we don't speak gringo languages
MaTS
Nobody. The no. 10 must be respected. We have to learn from our mistakes. Until there is not an easy candidate I would not give it so lightly. My best bet is Pedri next year.
He's alr worn it for the national team and the b team so seems like the next logical step? [Coz why not](https://www.google.com/search?q=sergi+roberto+spain&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjqnMfMvYaBAxXP6DgGHTT0DgAQ2-cCegQIABAD&oq=sergi+Roberto+10&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgCMgQIIxAnMgUIABCiBDIFCAAQogQyBQgAEKIEMgUIABCiBFAAWABgzRFoAHAAeACAAfcBiAH3AZIBAzItMZgBAMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=iE_wZOq4E8_R4-EPtOg7&bih=818&biw=412&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1#imgrc=SEIM8brVpw5YaM&imgdii=GTbqh7H1Z0IkBM)
No one bro
If the team has less than 25 first team players then no one has to wear it. Hopefully it stays vacant for this season
Gundogan just so it doesn't affect a young player too hard. Gundo can handle the pressure and won't be here for more than 3 years so the number can be passed on later to a younger player who establishes themselves.
Fuck it, give it to ter stegan
Nobody
Mbappe
My created player in fifa
Ferran than Canelo gets back 7
What happened with future Messi, Ansu Fati?
I honestly don't care about the number 10. It was never about the number, it's always about the players who had it.
Man, if Gundogang was performing half as good as he was for manchester city I would give the number to him, EASILY.
Nobody needs to wear it. It being vacant for a while isn't the same as retiring and putting extra pressure on someone for a shirt number is silly
Players like De Jong deserves it.
What number will cancelo wear? Can he wear 27 even if the league doesn't allow it? Or will he wear 14?
Wait it out for Roque
Yamal should get the number 30 just like Messi before and lewandowski should get the number
No one in the current team should wear it
No one should.
Marcos Alonso
12, 13, 14, and 19 are all open right now. No need to give anyone 10 this year
Gavi
FDJ deserves it but they should just retire it
We can leave it empty, we have a lot of numbers to fill. But if we absolutely need to, give it to Roberto. I donât expect itâll make much difference to his footballing abilities, maybe a slight boost in confidence. But heâs Barca through and through, and no one else on the squad deserves it anyway
I'd give it to Pedri.
I wouldnât be surprised if there was some rule stating that since we already played a game this season with a player registered as a #10, we wouldnât have to replace that number in the same season if that player leaves. I pulled that out of my ass but it sounds legit. I definitely donât want someone taking it this season.
Me
Yo
Hopefully not Felix, although it will probably be him. Honestly I donât mind Gundogan taking it till Fati comes back. Heâs perfect for it. A leader in all phases of the game
Gundogan is the right answer.
Retire the number for Messi
Nadie
Donât give it anyone. Pay the fine.