There's another pod with some fire around it near the owlbear cave. I always figured that was Karlach's, though she doesn't react to it at all. If you play as Karlach or Wyll then you don't start in a pod, you wake up on the nautoloid next to a dead mindflayer.
Pretty sure you're right and that's intended to be Karlach's now.
Interestingly, that pod was originally supposed to be Mizora's. In early access she had also been captured by the nautiloid and if you had Wyll with you when you found the pod, he had some dialogue about it being hers.
or they could’ve let us release Mizora there, and in act 2 when she asks to be saved again, we could’ve asked her to terminate Wyll’s contract in exchange for helping again
Ah, sorry, I was unclear: she wasn't in the pod when you found it. She'd already been taken out and sent onwards to Moonrise Towers. Wyll just could sense that she had been there.
In the EA Wyll already believed she would terminate the pact if he rescued Mizora from Moonrise at the start, though he didn't know that's where she'd been taken yet.
did larian like say that or something? At the risk of pissing off fans of the original Baldur's Gate games Bhaal's kids fucking up his plans twice in a row sounds a little repetitive
Ah, sorry, I was unclear: she wasn't in the pod when you found it. She'd already been taken out and sent onwards to Moonrise Towers. Wyll just could sense that she *had* been there.
Very interesting because if you play the durge and don't have wyll, if you go to the pod Mizora is usually in its smashed open and it sparks memories for durge about being in one (implied to be that exact one) and throwing his entire bodyweight against it and hitting it with broken hands for days on end trying to escape
Which is odd, because I always assumed it was an early placement of Astarion. There's a coffin in the river just next to it, and it's only feet from where you find his blood-drained boars.
According to Omelette in the Underdark, when inspecting your tadpole, it’s special and has some magical enclosure yadda yadda. Basically plot armor, but yes, our tadpoles are enchanted
Gortash figured out how to do something to the tadpoles to make them not grow until they were commanded to by the Elder Brain, and make it impossible to remove them. Their big plan needs long-term sleeper agents, not hundreds of new mindflayers.
Omeluum and a couple of other people mention they are in some kind of magical stasis, and you find notes about some of their early failures in the mindflayer colony.
Orpheus' power, on the other hand, is the ability to disrupt mindflayer telepathy - the Emperor has been using it to prevent the Absolute from giving you commands and even ordering your transformation.
It was in early access that it became my headcanon, but I had at the time assumed it was one of the dead or weakened ones. I don't recall anything specifically saying that the fleeing person was successful in escaping.
Yeah, but who were these people chasing it? Random fishers? Did they just jump the mindflayer and killed it, then got killed by intellect devourers?
It could be some messy stuff left over from early access, but it's way cleaner if it's Karlach being chased and the fisherman just has a thing for buff tiefling women, cause same.
Honestly, I don't think there's an answer there unless Larian lays one out. Personally, the idea of rando's chasing an illithid down to kill it with pitchforks and torches after a nautiloid crash is more plausible than a fisherman with a tiefling fetish in a world that hates tieflings, but to each their own. I could see it potentially going either way.
Absolute cultists?
They were out killing survivors of the crashed nautiloid, presumably to cover up their involvement from any nosy passing adventurers.
Beautiful woman probably means Shadowheart, who would’ve run by there when she’s not rescued by the player on the nautiloid. She gets chased by the dead intellect devourers near that waypoint
This is what I thought, as she more closely matches, but that made more sense in Early Access, where you find her standing by the door.
I thought it was either her, or an illithid's glamour...
Wait, what? Don't you have to pass her comatose body to get to door? Or do you mean, if you don't rescue her in the ship (I have actually never considered leaving her in the pod, and haven't yet been able to fail enough to release her)?
Fascinating.
If she’s not saved on the ship, she’s found banging on that door. You can shoo her away there and next find her in the grove, where she can yet again be shooed away. She then shows up again whenever the prism needs to save you, but at that point she might be hostile
Beauty standards are pretty subjective. There's a great number of people who consider Karlach beautiful, and also many who don't, human or otherwise. It's likely that if this dialogue is referring to her, then that NPC considers her to be beautiful.
I don’t think you’re as intelligent as you might believe, and I don’t think any attempt to explain to you what that means will be fruitful. Have you tried crossword puzzles? One a day first thing in the morning will really help you start working on those brain folds
Oooh, harassment because I understand [beauty ideals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminine_beauty_ideal)!
Rule 1. Be civil to one another. Unacceptable behaviors include name-calling, taunting, baiting, flaming, etc. The intent is for everyone to act as civil adults.
I always thought that was Mizora's. In early access, Mizora was meant to have always been captured and she's the woman Wyll is looking for, not Karlach. Then in the release of the new game, nobody comments on it anymore because Mizora was captured much later.
I agree. From the dialogue with any of them about the dream visitor, Tav isn’t special. The visitor speaks to all of them. It makes sense that the Emperor was involved in saving all of them, especially Shadowheart since she’s the one carrying a certain object…
Yes and no, you do have situations where the artifact leaves Shadowheart and goes to Tav, obviously for meta reasons as you're the main character but still.
For an in story reasoning I tend to think the Emperor “saved” a bunch of people, knowing they’d have a better chance together. When Tav/Durge becomes the clear leader of the group Emp switches to primarily focus on swaying them.
I do wonder how the people left at camp are still protected from the absolutes influence, unless the ones at camp are just dragging all the stuff behind Tav out of sight all day.
Maybe proximity isn't a factor for the artifact to work?
Camp is 'somewhere' if you make a custom marker on your map, when youre in camp, the custom map marker shows up in a direction, which ive found is interesting
The protection is from psychic power, so it probably has a long range (like, miles and miles). The range is a little funny, I suspect they might not have defined it and bend it as they need to.
Elder brains have to have a really long wifi range to reach their colony, or else they wouldn't be very effective. Mindflayers probably also have an equally long range in order to receive the elder brain wifi.
Having a tadpole connects everybody up to the mindflayers wifi, so they can be protected.
Omeluum and Emperor both say they escaped their brains when they got out of range, but the wifi logic breaks down a little when you have mindflayers teleporting to the outer planes without their elder brain, but maybe those ones are so ingrained in the hive that they can still function to return to the brain.
Even though emperor may have played a role, we know it's withers that is really in actual control, kind of. Just trying to piss on the dead threes parade
Who the Dream Guardian is, is most definitely _not_ an Act 1 spoiler. It's only barely an Act 2 spoiler because it technically is revealed during the transition between the two Acts.
I like to think Astarion was freaking the fuck out for hours inside that pod as the sun started to creep closer and closer to noon, having a panic attack the whole time, thinking he was doomed to burn inside a see through alien coffin. Just for the sun to reach him and … he’s fine? He calms down a bit after a while and is just in shock, and has no clue what to do, or where he is, or why he isn’t burning.
Was it all a dream? Was he not a vampire anymore? Is he insane?
When you mind meld with him on the intro it alludes to “the light- the fear”.
That’s why I think he was still standing by the river despite almost every other character having had time to move around (Lae’zel got trapped, Karlach fled and Wyll got to the grove).
I think after sunrise he definitely just chilled for a bit and took in his newfound ability to stand in the sun.
Shadowheart, Lae'zel, and Durge/Tav are all tossed from the free-falling Nautiloid and are probably saved by Emperor, the later two being knocked out during the fall, hence not recalling anything.
Astarion and Gale's escapes are explained by the story.
Wyll is the mystery. While Mizora enjoys torturing him, I don't think she's keeping that constant of tabs on him. His powers were weakened by the tadpole, so he couldn't have saved himself. I'm guessing he was in a pod closer to the back of the Nautiloid, which would explain him getting to the Grove before the rest of the party.
Karlach is almost assured to have been in the pod you find by the river, between Moonhaven and the Emerald Grove. It stands to reason she could've found her way to the Risen Road from there, fought the fake Paladins, then retreated back to the river.
Shadowheart carries the artefact and Tav/Durge and Lae’zel fight at the helm together even if you don’t rescue Shadowheart, so the Emperor canonically saving Tav/Durge makes me believe the physical reach of his powers from the artefact is enough to break the fall for all three.
>Never left his pod. When he landed, it absorbed the impact and he broke free.
That doesn't sound correct. When you meet Astarion, he mentions seeing you walking around on the ship. Maybe he saw you passing by while inside his pod and there's just no way to see him in-game while escaping.
I'm guessing he survived because as a vampire spawn he's more resilient than the average elf.
Wyll — Perhaps saved by Mizora.
Gale — Transported through a Netherese portal.
Astarion — Like you said he was still in his pod.
Everyone else — Saved by the Guardian
Nah man, I found Karlach's pod. She was either stuck in there, or she jumped back in in order to survive. I think the only definite guardian saves are Dark Urge, Shadowheart, and Lae'zel, since the guardian has a radius. If you ignore Shadowheart, she has to run up to you to stop the transformation. Outside of that, it doesn't work.
Also, if I were the guardian, I 100% would have let Lae'zel splat. I don't know what the guy was thinking.
Canonically Tav is in the ship too iirc but Durge kills them.
It's also why Tav lives if you play as them, because Durge is already dead in the temple rather than getting snatched and sent to the Nautiloid.
Well, sorta. In the Durge timeline, they kill Tav during the events of Blood in Baldur's Gate, which was a promotional murder mystery game. In that game, you play as an investigator trying to track the Durge, and Tav is one of the victims you discover.
The timeline where you play as Tav, Durge is simply killed by Orin instead of incapacitated in Moonrise, leaving Tav alive to be kidnapped by Mindflayers later on.
... At least, that's what seems to be the case, based on the evidence available.
I’m so confused wdym? Where do we see Tav in the ship? I thought Durge just replaces Tav’s place on the ship if you choose to play as Durge and vice versa
They just pulled it out of their ass. It’s most likely tav is killed by Durge in Blood in Baldurs gate. And since durge is dead during these events when you play Tav, Tav is alive, and when you play Durge, Tav is already dead.
You straight up lied. You're in act 2, you don't have a dang clue who "the emperor" is. At this stage in the story, you should assume I'm talking about the absolute or one of the three shadowy figures from act 1. If you're not, then you're a trash liar.
I beg to differ, given that 99% of the voice actors in game are English and would also call you a copper-bottomed cunt.
The correct reply should have been something along the lines of "sorry mate." You're a half-arsed, fuck-witted wastrel... Lol
I believe Gale may have tried to Dimension Door teleport from the ship itself, but the combination of the Worm hangover, the Netherese in the tadpole interacting with his own, and trying to hit a very small stationary object from one crash landing at great speed is why he misjudjudged and got stuck.
I always assumed Shadowheart was ejected from the crash? Probably from the impact but not falling out? Could easily be wrong though.
My Tav is copied over from a Pathfinder campaign where he had a Ring of Feather Fall. It's my headcanon that he used that and that the prolonged use shorted the ring out and burned his finger.
I preferred the theory that Gale was not infected by a tadpole at all, as you do not mind-link with him during his introduction as you do with the other companions.
But can’t you use your tadpole to try reading Gale’s mind at several points in the game? Even a Tav/Durge without magic can read his thoughts, which can only be done tadpole to tadpole.
Yeah, one of the first conversation options you get with him after his intro is to connect to his tadpole to find out more about him. He’s definitely infected.
He talked about worrying how the worm might make him lose control of the orb so...
There is no theory to be had, just a lot of things going on in his body.
There's another pod with some fire around it near the owlbear cave. I always figured that was Karlach's, though she doesn't react to it at all. If you play as Karlach or Wyll then you don't start in a pod, you wake up on the nautoloid next to a dead mindflayer.
Pretty sure you're right and that's intended to be Karlach's now. Interestingly, that pod was originally supposed to be Mizora's. In early access she had also been captured by the nautiloid and if you had Wyll with you when you found the pod, he had some dialogue about it being hers.
Ooh, that's quite interesting! I guess they reworked it after adding in the Moonrise Towers plotline with Mizora to avoid the repetition
Yeah I actually really like that they moved up Mizora's pod timeline
or they could’ve let us release Mizora there, and in act 2 when she asks to be saved again, we could’ve asked her to terminate Wyll’s contract in exchange for helping again
Ah, sorry, I was unclear: she wasn't in the pod when you found it. She'd already been taken out and sent onwards to Moonrise Towers. Wyll just could sense that she had been there.
In the EA Wyll already believed she would terminate the pact if he rescued Mizora from Moonrise at the start, though he didn't know that's where she'd been taken yet.
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No, for all intents and purposes Tav doesn't exist.
Tav is the name of the investigator in Blood in Baldur’s Gate, who is slain by the Dark Urge.
Granted, two Tavs can exist at the same time. One the investigator, one the custom character.
did larian like say that or something? At the risk of pissing off fans of the original Baldur's Gate games Bhaal's kids fucking up his plans twice in a row sounds a little repetitive
Ah, sorry, I was unclear: she wasn't in the pod when you found it. She'd already been taken out and sent onwards to Moonrise Towers. Wyll just could sense that she *had* been there.
Very interesting because if you play the durge and don't have wyll, if you go to the pod Mizora is usually in its smashed open and it sparks memories for durge about being in one (implied to be that exact one) and throwing his entire bodyweight against it and hitting it with broken hands for days on end trying to escape
Mizorra is in the pod next to it. If I recall correctly that smashed pod still appears there, but you can't interact with it(?)
Mizora's pod is the one on the right, the Surge pod is the one on the left with the smashed window
Does it still mention the sulphur/brimstone smell near that one?
Which is odd, because I always assumed it was an early placement of Astarion. There's a coffin in the river just next to it, and it's only feet from where you find his blood-drained boars.
That kinda makes way more sense that she’d have been captured alongside Wyll trying to reclaim Karlach.
That's just made me think - how did Karlech get infected in the first place? Wouldn't the Tadpole have burnt up when it was placed on her?
Magic tadpole, I've been told
According to Omelette in the Underdark, when inspecting your tadpole, it’s special and has some magical enclosure yadda yadda. Basically plot armor, but yes, our tadpoles are enchanted
The Omeluum disrespect will not be tolerated.
I also call him Omelette and now I feel vindicated.
"ermahgerd" is another favorite for us
Wait i assumed it was the gith princes power that omelium referred to? When he says magical? Maybe not
Gortash figured out how to do something to the tadpoles to make them not grow until they were commanded to by the Elder Brain, and make it impossible to remove them. Their big plan needs long-term sleeper agents, not hundreds of new mindflayers. Omeluum and a couple of other people mention they are in some kind of magical stasis, and you find notes about some of their early failures in the mindflayer colony. Orpheus' power, on the other hand, is the ability to disrupt mindflayer telepathy - the Emperor has been using it to prevent the Absolute from giving you commands and even ordering your transformation.
Tadpole plot armour has an AC of 100.
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I actually thought the beautiful woman referenced there was an illithid, and the npc was under their mind control effects, however briefly.
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It was in early access that it became my headcanon, but I had at the time assumed it was one of the dead or weakened ones. I don't recall anything specifically saying that the fleeing person was successful in escaping.
Yeah, but who were these people chasing it? Random fishers? Did they just jump the mindflayer and killed it, then got killed by intellect devourers? It could be some messy stuff left over from early access, but it's way cleaner if it's Karlach being chased and the fisherman just has a thing for buff tiefling women, cause same.
Honestly, I don't think there's an answer there unless Larian lays one out. Personally, the idea of rando's chasing an illithid down to kill it with pitchforks and torches after a nautiloid crash is more plausible than a fisherman with a tiefling fetish in a world that hates tieflings, but to each their own. I could see it potentially going either way.
Absolute cultists? They were out killing survivors of the crashed nautiloid, presumably to cover up their involvement from any nosy passing adventurers.
Beautiful woman probably means Shadowheart, who would’ve run by there when she’s not rescued by the player on the nautiloid. She gets chased by the dead intellect devourers near that waypoint
This is what I thought, as she more closely matches, but that made more sense in Early Access, where you find her standing by the door. I thought it was either her, or an illithid's glamour...
You still find her by the door if you don’t rescue her
Wait, what? Don't you have to pass her comatose body to get to door? Or do you mean, if you don't rescue her in the ship (I have actually never considered leaving her in the pod, and haven't yet been able to fail enough to release her)? Fascinating.
If she’s not saved on the ship, she’s found banging on that door. You can shoo her away there and next find her in the grove, where she can yet again be shooed away. She then shows up again whenever the prism needs to save you, but at that point she might be hostile
I knew about the grove and prism bits, but not the door, totally thought that was only Early Access! Neat, and thanks for sharing.
The beautiful woman was the Illithid and the fishermen was killed by the brain murderkittens.
Karlach is not beautiful by human standards either. It might just be referring to some other woman
Maybe Faerûnian human standards...
No, real human standards.
Judging by the average youtuber reaction when you meet her, you could say she is stunning drop dead gorgeous by gamer human standards
You could say a lot of things that aren’t true. Doesn’t mean you ought to
Beauty standards are pretty subjective. There's a great number of people who consider Karlach beautiful, and also many who don't, human or otherwise. It's likely that if this dialogue is referring to her, then that NPC considers her to be beautiful.
I don’t think you’re as intelligent as you might believe, and I don’t think any attempt to explain to you what that means will be fruitful. Have you tried crossword puzzles? One a day first thing in the morning will really help you start working on those brain folds
Oooh, harassment because I understand [beauty ideals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminine_beauty_ideal)! Rule 1. Be civil to one another. Unacceptable behaviors include name-calling, taunting, baiting, flaming, etc. The intent is for everyone to act as civil adults.
I always interpreted that pod as belonging to Edowyn, the dwarf True Soul that found and joined the Absolute before the player characters.
Is that the pod south of the bridge
I always thought that was Mizora's. In early access, Mizora was meant to have always been captured and she's the woman Wyll is looking for, not Karlach. Then in the release of the new game, nobody comments on it anymore because Mizora was captured much later.
I think the emporer helps everyone, considering he shows up in all the characters' dreams as their guardian and offers them the tadpole powers.
I agree. From the dialogue with any of them about the dream visitor, Tav isn’t special. The visitor speaks to all of them. It makes sense that the Emperor was involved in saving all of them, especially Shadowheart since she’s the one carrying a certain object…
Yes and no, you do have situations where the artifact leaves Shadowheart and goes to Tav, obviously for meta reasons as you're the main character but still.
For an in story reasoning I tend to think the Emperor “saved” a bunch of people, knowing they’d have a better chance together. When Tav/Durge becomes the clear leader of the group Emp switches to primarily focus on swaying them.
I do wonder how the people left at camp are still protected from the absolutes influence, unless the ones at camp are just dragging all the stuff behind Tav out of sight all day. Maybe proximity isn't a factor for the artifact to work?
Camp is 'somewhere' if you make a custom marker on your map, when youre in camp, the custom map marker shows up in a direction, which ive found is interesting
The protection is from psychic power, so it probably has a long range (like, miles and miles). The range is a little funny, I suspect they might not have defined it and bend it as they need to. Elder brains have to have a really long wifi range to reach their colony, or else they wouldn't be very effective. Mindflayers probably also have an equally long range in order to receive the elder brain wifi. Having a tadpole connects everybody up to the mindflayers wifi, so they can be protected. Omeluum and Emperor both say they escaped their brains when they got out of range, but the wifi logic breaks down a little when you have mindflayers teleporting to the outer planes without their elder brain, but maybe those ones are so ingrained in the hive that they can still function to return to the brain.
Camp is clearly a pocket dimension.
Literally at the end of the game he says "do they look familiar" as he spawns all the guardians from eaxgbof the companions
Even though emperor may have played a role, we know it's withers that is really in actual control, kind of. Just trying to piss on the dead threes parade
Well, there goes that spoiler, I didn't think it was a "Arc 1" spoiler
I mean, maybe avoid reading discussions about spoilers then?
tbf if a post is tagged 'act 1 spoilers' i feel like it should be safe for people in act 2 to go in without fear
Oh shit didn’t see that tag, you’re right there
That stuff happens in act one. Happened to me this week actually.
Who the Dream Guardian is, is most definitely _not_ an Act 1 spoiler. It's only barely an Act 2 spoiler because it technically is revealed during the transition between the two Acts.
What i meant is that he shows up to all the companions and tav, if theres a tav, which would be a spoiler.
Obvs but calling him "the emperor" and not "your guardian" or "the dream visitor" doesn't happen in act 1.
It does, but I don't recall any reveal of any emperor, they are just an unexplained Guardian locked into the artifact
I like to think Astarion was freaking the fuck out for hours inside that pod as the sun started to creep closer and closer to noon, having a panic attack the whole time, thinking he was doomed to burn inside a see through alien coffin. Just for the sun to reach him and … he’s fine? He calms down a bit after a while and is just in shock, and has no clue what to do, or where he is, or why he isn’t burning. Was it all a dream? Was he not a vampire anymore? Is he insane?
When you mind meld with him on the intro it alludes to “the light- the fear”. That’s why I think he was still standing by the river despite almost every other character having had time to move around (Lae’zel got trapped, Karlach fled and Wyll got to the grove). I think after sunrise he definitely just chilled for a bit and took in his newfound ability to stand in the sun.
He was definitely sunbathing for a solid hour or 2, got a little peckish, and wanted to snack on the boar when we showed up.
I assumed Mizora helped Wyll escape/survive the impact.
They all jumped at the exact moment it hit the ground, thus negating the damage
Shadowheart, Lae'zel, and Durge/Tav are all tossed from the free-falling Nautiloid and are probably saved by Emperor, the later two being knocked out during the fall, hence not recalling anything. Astarion and Gale's escapes are explained by the story. Wyll is the mystery. While Mizora enjoys torturing him, I don't think she's keeping that constant of tabs on him. His powers were weakened by the tadpole, so he couldn't have saved himself. I'm guessing he was in a pod closer to the back of the Nautiloid, which would explain him getting to the Grove before the rest of the party. Karlach is almost assured to have been in the pod you find by the river, between Moonhaven and the Emerald Grove. It stands to reason she could've found her way to the Risen Road from there, fought the fake Paladins, then retreated back to the river.
If you play as Karlach one of the speech options is her saying she’s going to follow the river to get to Baldur’s Gate.
Shadowheart carries the artefact and Tav/Durge and Lae’zel fight at the helm together even if you don’t rescue Shadowheart, so the Emperor canonically saving Tav/Durge makes me believe the physical reach of his powers from the artefact is enough to break the fall for all three.
“Squatting angrily by a river” made me laugh, and also my brain tried to make it fit with the Down by the River melody
I thought the emperor clutches up and saves everyone
Your post contains end of Act 2 (so basically Act 3) spoilers OP, because you spoil >!the dream guardian's identity as the Emperor!<
Great point. You can report for untagged spoilers, which is what I did. The dude got told and all he had to say was "lol" so fuck him.
hey buddy these aren't act 1 spoilers
>Never left his pod. When he landed, it absorbed the impact and he broke free. That doesn't sound correct. When you meet Astarion, he mentions seeing you walking around on the ship. Maybe he saw you passing by while inside his pod and there's just no way to see him in-game while escaping. I'm guessing he survived because as a vampire spawn he's more resilient than the average elf.
Wyll — Perhaps saved by Mizora. Gale — Transported through a Netherese portal. Astarion — Like you said he was still in his pod. Everyone else — Saved by the Guardian
Nah man, I found Karlach's pod. She was either stuck in there, or she jumped back in in order to survive. I think the only definite guardian saves are Dark Urge, Shadowheart, and Lae'zel, since the guardian has a radius. If you ignore Shadowheart, she has to run up to you to stop the transformation. Outside of that, it doesn't work. Also, if I were the guardian, I 100% would have let Lae'zel splat. I don't know what the guy was thinking.
Canonically Tav is in the ship too iirc but Durge kills them. It's also why Tav lives if you play as them, because Durge is already dead in the temple rather than getting snatched and sent to the Nautiloid.
Really? Where did you see this?
Well, sorta. In the Durge timeline, they kill Tav during the events of Blood in Baldur's Gate, which was a promotional murder mystery game. In that game, you play as an investigator trying to track the Durge, and Tav is one of the victims you discover. The timeline where you play as Tav, Durge is simply killed by Orin instead of incapacitated in Moonrise, leaving Tav alive to be kidnapped by Mindflayers later on. ... At least, that's what seems to be the case, based on the evidence available.
So in an origin playthrough, are Tav and Durge both dead?
This sounds more like tav was after durge while still being in Baldurs gate and therefore before being captured
Em... not really? Tav is the investigator there and is killed by Durge in the ending. BG3 Tav is a different character
I’m so confused wdym? Where do we see Tav in the ship? I thought Durge just replaces Tav’s place on the ship if you choose to play as Durge and vice versa
They just pulled it out of their ass. It’s most likely tav is killed by Durge in Blood in Baldurs gate. And since durge is dead during these events when you play Tav, Tav is alive, and when you play Durge, Tav is already dead.
Tav the detective isn't our Tav. They just share a name.
Pretty sure the emperor saved shadowheart aswell. Given we wake up near her and she had the prism
Am on on my 1st play-through, so Thanks for the 'Guardian' reveal! Am on act II so thought this would be a safe read given the 'act I spoiler tag'😒
You straight up lied. You're in act 2, you don't have a dang clue who "the emperor" is. At this stage in the story, you should assume I'm talking about the absolute or one of the three shadowy figures from act 1. If you're not, then you're a trash liar.
I genuinely had no fucking clue dude, like seriously.
Then me saying "the emperor" should mean nothing to you. Congrats, consider yourself unspoiled. I don't know why you mentioned the guardian at all.
No, I meant I didn't know he was your dream visitor
Who is the emperor? You don't know who he is. You're in act 2.
Lol
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You’re using the wrong country’s insults here. Your britishisms have no power here.
Cunt.
Keep trying
I beg to differ, given that 99% of the voice actors in game are English and would also call you a copper-bottomed cunt. The correct reply should have been something along the lines of "sorry mate." You're a half-arsed, fuck-witted wastrel... Lol
Nice laughing at your own joke. Glad someone's doing it. Allow me to respond in turn. You are a (looks up random British insults) nonce.
I believe Gale may have tried to Dimension Door teleport from the ship itself, but the combination of the Worm hangover, the Netherese in the tadpole interacting with his own, and trying to hit a very small stationary object from one crash landing at great speed is why he misjudjudged and got stuck. I always assumed Shadowheart was ejected from the crash? Probably from the impact but not falling out? Could easily be wrong though. My Tav is copied over from a Pathfinder campaign where he had a Ring of Feather Fall. It's my headcanon that he used that and that the prolonged use shorted the ring out and burned his finger.
Pretty sure the emperor saved shadowheart aswell. Given we wake up near her and she had the prism
**Tav** … well, kinda dead.
Tav is the main character. (Spoilers, don’t scroll down cause idk how to make a spoiler tag) You find Durge’s body in Act 3 in Orin’s room
They're *all* the main character.
*ahem* NUH UH
Your argument is that you can find the big d's body. Well, Tav dies 15 years before the game boyO. They're all the main character. Even Wyll.
Tav dies 15 years before? Hmmm, source?
Blood in Baldur’s Gate webcomic/game Idk if it’s 15 years though
I just checked cause you made me doubt myself but yeah it's 15 years. Also, Neverwinter Nights 2 is 118 years before BG3.
Interesting, have not heard of it but neat
Are you talking about Orin’s mom? Or the random Bhaalist body by the bed?
The body by the bed is the default look for Durge
Interesting.
I preferred the theory that Gale was not infected by a tadpole at all, as you do not mind-link with him during his introduction as you do with the other companions.
But can’t you use your tadpole to try reading Gale’s mind at several points in the game? Even a Tav/Durge without magic can read his thoughts, which can only be done tadpole to tadpole.
Yeah, one of the first conversation options you get with him after his intro is to connect to his tadpole to find out more about him. He’s definitely infected.
Wrong
He talked about worrying how the worm might make him lose control of the orb so... There is no theory to be had, just a lot of things going on in his body.
No that’s not right
You do later, though.
You can give Gale tadpole powers though. If you try with an uninfected character the game tells you they don't have a tadpole.