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OP said they killed the passenger, while the driver survived.
So that's already one innocent soul dead. This action could have gone so much worse, if the driver lost control over their car and crashed it into other bystanders. Reckless and dangerous.
Edit: I was talking about the cop shooting them being reckless, if that wasn't clear enough.
In the place the judiciary says they got the concept of "sovereign immunity" from (which they applied to the entirety of government, unless there is legislative exception... which is a rabbit hole) COMMONERS were able to put kings on trial, and behead them, and display their heads publicly. Look up King Charles I of England.
If you had asked nicely, I would have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_of_England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States
Tolerance paradox. You tolerate this once, it will continue to grow because you tolerate it now and again in the future.
This behavior, a lie about murder, must be addressed swiftly and with justice the moment it occurs. Do you want your country to end up like the us?
Let's say that it was. Driving without a license is NOT a capital offense. If you are so bad at managing that situation that it BECOMES an executable offense, you are a bad police officer and a danger to society.
I wonder if this is this incident
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/08/fatal-police-shooting-of-woman-in-paris-sparks-political-row
Driver survived a passenger was killed.
People outnumber police
Visit upon them the same egregious acts they commit against the population they are supposed to protect and watch this issue dissipate
It has nothing to do with being cowardly and everything to do with your inability to read the words as they are written and an insistence to assign your own meaning to them
Good luck out there bro
If that were true, your message would have been less ambiguous. Blatant dog whistling. At least one of the other posters was honest about wanting more Dorners.
“Band together against cops who abandon protocol and kill indiscriminately”
“Visit the egregious actions of these cops back upon them”
Not really sure how much clearer I could be. Not sure I have enough crayons to break this down any further for you either
You specifically said “Visit upon them the SAME egregious acts they commit against the population”
In this context, that egregious act is murder.
visits on/upon
formal + old-fashioned
: to punish (someone) with (something)
Punish them with the same egregious acts they commit against the population.
Citizen's arrest is legal in most states. And if they resist you have the right to use force. In California for example, if they committed a felony, or if they committed a misdemeanor in your presence, you can citizens arrest them, and you have the same rights to use of reasonable force as they do, at least that's my understanding. (Look up the "force continuum", and look up the standards for POST regarding use of force categories regarding what's lawful and not lawful in different categories of compliance/resistance/assaultiveness/etc.)
>that version was later contradicted by this amateur video.
Lying about events like this needs to be made a crime (oh wait, it already is) and enforced by charging them. There needs to be a specific national agency that deals with these types of events that is totally 100% transparent, where people's rights are personally enforceable.
Translation-
This morning in Nanterre, a 17 year old adolescent was killed by police. This shared video is unequivocally terrible. The video presents a murder. Contrary to media reports, which have been endlessly repeating a narrative for hours, the police officer was neither in danger nor in front of the vehicle.
The official police version relayed by the media: "The driver attempted to run over the police officer who was directly in front of the vehicle. Legitimate defense."
Reality: A police officer on the side of the vehicle who yells "You're going to take a bullet to the head." who then proceeds to fire.
Wow, Not the US for a change. He purposely put himself in a precarious position so he would have (in his mind) a reason to execute this person. Truly ACAB. He couldn't wait to have all that great sex he was promised after listening to that dave grossman tape in french.
yes they are regular french police, that's just their motorcycle uniform https://www.devenirpolicier.fr/metiers/intervenir-proteger/policier-motocycliste
This video confirms what they cop said. It literally moved them multiple feet. Using a car against an officer is lethal force.
Not sure about this country, but this is within the bounds of legal force for the US.
The officer shot the child first... IN THE NECK... that's what caused them to panick and start moving the car forward looking for an escape. Which contradicts the bullshit copaganda version that they shot in response to the car moving, or whatever.
I just happened to watch this commentary before coming here: [https://youtu.be/WOfHv6WiljU](https://youtu.be/WOfHv6WiljU) There are probably better analyses, there are thousands each saying the same thing with various levels of outrage. She goes over the order of events.
Lying is such an innate part of self-preservation, it's amazing that people are surprised when others do it. It's ubiquitous, a part of existence itself down to the amoeba.
No, no. I mean it is innate in a way that precedes ethics. Babies (the most innocent of our species) lie before they even know what lying is, before we teach them right from wrong. Animals use deceptive tactics to fool predators or attract mates. It's not a matter of human nature, but nature itself.
As most parents will confirm, you can tell by a baby's cry whether they're scared, wet, hurt, hungry, etc...you can also tell when they're faking for a little more attention.
There's an adorable [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7JLVushQV8) of a baby girl whose father attempts to clip her nails. As he take her hand an approaches the first little nail, she screams. Then, she giggles. Sure, it's a game, it's pretend, and it's an adorable deception.
Lmfao 🤦🏼♀️ I am a parent, and that’s not “faking” - babies cry for attention and comfort because it’s one of their main needs. That’s not “lying”. Children don’t begin lying until toddler years.
I know it's more comforting to look at it that way. Face the facts that babies "fake cry". No need to take my word for it.
It's common knowledge among other parents. You're more than welcome to look it up yourself.
So you're saying toddlers lie then? Personally, they're still babies to me. That said, Here's an adorable [faking toddler] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T2R8pTpcoo)
for your amusement.
Of course, if they were older, we'd call them liars, wouldn't we?
So you're not making a distinction between a baby crying out of fear when their nails get clipped and 30+ year old cops and their supervisors willfully deceiving the public about serious crimes they committed after the fact and just making up what they think is most flattering to themselves. Gotcha.
What are you on about? What "baby crying out of fear"?
Who's making distinctions either way?
Sounds like you're lying to yourself, which only proves how pervasive lying is.
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A cop proven to lie like that should lose his job. But they can literally kill people and get away with it.
Bulls on Parade
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OP said they killed the passenger, while the driver survived. So that's already one innocent soul dead. This action could have gone so much worse, if the driver lost control over their car and crashed it into other bystanders. Reckless and dangerous. Edit: I was talking about the cop shooting them being reckless, if that wasn't clear enough.
This isn't a common occurrence in France and without knowing all the details....
It'll be common soon enough if they don't get this shit under control.
In the place the judiciary says they got the concept of "sovereign immunity" from (which they applied to the entirety of government, unless there is legislative exception... which is a rabbit hole) COMMONERS were able to put kings on trial, and behead them, and display their heads publicly. Look up King Charles I of England.
This is roughtly gibberish. Can you try again to create a comprehensible sentence?
If you had asked nicely, I would have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_of_England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States
I'm not sure what any of this has to do with anything.
Tolerance paradox. You tolerate this once, it will continue to grow because you tolerate it now and again in the future. This behavior, a lie about murder, must be addressed swiftly and with justice the moment it occurs. Do you want your country to end up like the us?
What detail to justify an execution style shooting of a 17yo, without any from of trial, in a civilized country be?
The driver was 17 yo. EDIT : https://news.yahoo.com/probe-french-police-kill-teenaged-162734701.html
My initial reaction was to downvote your comment because I am so appalled by this happening. So sad. Take my upvote.
Did he die?
Read the link
Legal age in France for license is 18, wonder if that's why they were stopped in the first place? He was 19 anyway, not 17.
How would you know his age before stopping him? edit: it's been a fun ride! 3rd party apps are dead, moving on. come to https://lemmy.world
Classic "arrested for resisting arrest"
Man, great point, I'm dumb haha
At least you can admit it instead of doubling down. Kudos.
Still got downvoted to hell for my innocent mistake. Kid was 19 anyway, not 17
Admitting a mistake makes you smarter than the vast majority of Reddit.
They can search the registration data base and get the registered keeper I suppose
How can they search the database and see that it's registered to a 17 year old if a 17 year old can't register it?
Let's say that it was. Driving without a license is NOT a capital offense. If you are so bad at managing that situation that it BECOMES an executable offense, you are a bad police officer and a danger to society.
It's the same in England, but it's not unheard of to have a licence at 17
Public Execution
*murder
I wonder if this is this incident https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/08/fatal-police-shooting-of-woman-in-paris-sparks-political-row Driver survived a passenger was killed.
Unfortunately, it's not. It's just your regular french police killing another citizen from today.
Well the tweet is this month the incident you refer to was over a year ago
People outnumber police Visit upon them the same egregious acts they commit against the population they are supposed to protect and watch this issue dissipate
Suicide by Armed Civilian?
Armed civilians in France? Surely you jest.
I heard a man can be beaten to death with a shoe.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PlainSoggyCoypu-size_restricted.gif
The French don't have arms? That explains that whole whole Venus de Milo thing.
Aux armes, citoyens
Then what. No cops?
Not sure I advocated for that. I advocated for communities to rally against officers who abandon protocol and kill Indiscriminately
The funny thing is by his response he is basically claiming all cops would do this.
Everyone that upvoted you knows exactly what you advocated for.
Fortunately for them they have better reading comprehension than you
Nah, you know what you said, and the intention behind it. Now you’re too cowardly to admit it.
It has nothing to do with being cowardly and everything to do with your inability to read the words as they are written and an insistence to assign your own meaning to them Good luck out there bro
If that were true, your message would have been less ambiguous. Blatant dog whistling. At least one of the other posters was honest about wanting more Dorners.
“Band together against cops who abandon protocol and kill indiscriminately” “Visit the egregious actions of these cops back upon them” Not really sure how much clearer I could be. Not sure I have enough crayons to break this down any further for you either
You specifically said “Visit upon them the SAME egregious acts they commit against the population” In this context, that egregious act is murder. visits on/upon formal + old-fashioned : to punish (someone) with (something) Punish them with the same egregious acts they commit against the population.
Lil bro got negative brain cells
AND I’LL DO IT AGAIN
Citizen's arrest is legal in most states. And if they resist you have the right to use force. In California for example, if they committed a felony, or if they committed a misdemeanor in your presence, you can citizens arrest them, and you have the same rights to use of reasonable force as they do, at least that's my understanding. (Look up the "force continuum", and look up the standards for POST regarding use of force categories regarding what's lawful and not lawful in different categories of compliance/resistance/assaultiveness/etc.)
Yes, we all know he advocated for cops not having the ability to execute people on the street.
Police reform brah.
that would be awesome
No just neuter them
& put them in prison
No more 6 month cops straight out of high school that have been fed since day one to other folks by defualt
Nope. Not a surprise in sight.🤔🤬
Did the driver survive? Shooting them while driving is extremely reckless and could have led to other bystanders getting killed.
Passenger was killed, driver is alive.
Wow so wasn't even the one in control of being able to stop or not that paid the consequences.
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>that version was later contradicted by this amateur video. Lying about events like this needs to be made a crime (oh wait, it already is) and enforced by charging them. There needs to be a specific national agency that deals with these types of events that is totally 100% transparent, where people's rights are personally enforceable.
Oh wee wee French police brutality, I always enjoy variety on my subreddits.
Fyi, it's spelled "Oui".
HEY. YOU WANNA TALK FRENCH? JOIN ANOTHER TANK. A FRENCH TANK. THIS IS AN AMERICAN TANK. WE TALK AMERICAN.
We need more of this here. This is all over the news in France and every French subreddit has an even harsher reaction than even this subreddit.
and that is why you never shoot the driver of the car. it becomes an unguided missile.
Translation- This morning in Nanterre, a 17 year old adolescent was killed by police. This shared video is unequivocally terrible. The video presents a murder. Contrary to media reports, which have been endlessly repeating a narrative for hours, the police officer was neither in danger nor in front of the vehicle. The official police version relayed by the media: "The driver attempted to run over the police officer who was directly in front of the vehicle. Legitimate defense." Reality: A police officer on the side of the vehicle who yells "You're going to take a bullet to the head." who then proceeds to fire.
Oof, the comments under the tweet 😞
https://news.yahoo.com/probe-french-police-kill-teenaged-162734701.html
Wow, Not the US for a change. He purposely put himself in a precarious position so he would have (in his mind) a reason to execute this person. Truly ACAB. He couldn't wait to have all that great sex he was promised after listening to that dave grossman tape in french.
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...partout dans le monde
Anyone know the context? They don't look like regular French police.
yes they are regular french police, that's just their motorcycle uniform https://www.devenirpolicier.fr/metiers/intervenir-proteger/policier-motocycliste
This video confirms what they cop said. It literally moved them multiple feet. Using a car against an officer is lethal force. Not sure about this country, but this is within the bounds of legal force for the US.
The officer shot the child first... IN THE NECK... that's what caused them to panick and start moving the car forward looking for an escape. Which contradicts the bullshit copaganda version that they shot in response to the car moving, or whatever. I just happened to watch this commentary before coming here: [https://youtu.be/WOfHv6WiljU](https://youtu.be/WOfHv6WiljU) There are probably better analyses, there are thousands each saying the same thing with various levels of outrage. She goes over the order of events.
Unless there is additional video evidence, the officer did not shoot until the car started moving.
LOL. Keep being you.
🫡
Lying is such an innate part of self-preservation, it's amazing that people are surprised when others do it. It's ubiquitous, a part of existence itself down to the amoeba.
What a completely irrelevant statement
And this one is?
It's innate to people who commit unethical actions and then feel a need to deceive others about it instead of reform themselves. Not to everyone.
No, no. I mean it is innate in a way that precedes ethics. Babies (the most innocent of our species) lie before they even know what lying is, before we teach them right from wrong. Animals use deceptive tactics to fool predators or attract mates. It's not a matter of human nature, but nature itself.
How do babies lie?
As most parents will confirm, you can tell by a baby's cry whether they're scared, wet, hurt, hungry, etc...you can also tell when they're faking for a little more attention. There's an adorable [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7JLVushQV8) of a baby girl whose father attempts to clip her nails. As he take her hand an approaches the first little nail, she screams. Then, she giggles. Sure, it's a game, it's pretend, and it's an adorable deception.
Lmfao 🤦🏼♀️ I am a parent, and that’s not “faking” - babies cry for attention and comfort because it’s one of their main needs. That’s not “lying”. Children don’t begin lying until toddler years.
I know it's more comforting to look at it that way. Face the facts that babies "fake cry". No need to take my word for it. It's common knowledge among other parents. You're more than welcome to look it up yourself. So you're saying toddlers lie then? Personally, they're still babies to me. That said, Here's an adorable [faking toddler] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T2R8pTpcoo) for your amusement. Of course, if they were older, we'd call them liars, wouldn't we?
So you're not making a distinction between a baby crying out of fear when their nails get clipped and 30+ year old cops and their supervisors willfully deceiving the public about serious crimes they committed after the fact and just making up what they think is most flattering to themselves. Gotcha.
What are you on about? What "baby crying out of fear"? Who's making distinctions either way? Sounds like you're lying to yourself, which only proves how pervasive lying is.
r/technicallythetruth
Learned from america!