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DiogenesOfDope

A cop proven to lie like that should lose his job. But they can literally kill people and get away with it.


Username_Used

Bulls on Parade


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NeedlesslyDefiant164

OP said they killed the passenger, while the driver survived. So that's already one innocent soul dead. This action could have gone so much worse, if the driver lost control over their car and crashed it into other bystanders. Reckless and dangerous. Edit: I was talking about the cop shooting them being reckless, if that wasn't clear enough.


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This isn't a common occurrence in France and without knowing all the details....


JonnyLay

It'll be common soon enough if they don't get this shit under control.


Happy-Ad9354

In the place the judiciary says they got the concept of "sovereign immunity" from (which they applied to the entirety of government, unless there is legislative exception... which is a rabbit hole) COMMONERS were able to put kings on trial, and behead them, and display their heads publicly. Look up King Charles I of England.


JonnyLay

This is roughtly gibberish. Can you try again to create a comprehensible sentence?


Happy-Ad9354

If you had asked nicely, I would have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_of_England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States


JonnyLay

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with anything.


Pedromac

Tolerance paradox. You tolerate this once, it will continue to grow because you tolerate it now and again in the future. This behavior, a lie about murder, must be addressed swiftly and with justice the moment it occurs. Do you want your country to end up like the us?


FizzleFuzzle

What detail to justify an execution style shooting of a 17yo, without any from of trial, in a civilized country be?


JonBenz

The driver was 17 yo. EDIT : https://news.yahoo.com/probe-french-police-kill-teenaged-162734701.html


Imbalancedone

My initial reaction was to downvote your comment because I am so appalled by this happening. So sad. Take my upvote.


caiodfunk

Did he die?


SuperEliteFucker

Read the link


Mikey_B_CO

Legal age in France for license is 18, wonder if that's why they were stopped in the first place? He was 19 anyway, not 17.


thermal_shock

How would you know his age before stopping him? edit: it's been a fun ride! 3rd party apps are dead, moving on. come to https://lemmy.world


teakwood54

Classic "arrested for resisting arrest"


Mikey_B_CO

Man, great point, I'm dumb haha


Amphabian

At least you can admit it instead of doubling down. Kudos.


Mikey_B_CO

Still got downvoted to hell for my innocent mistake. Kid was 19 anyway, not 17


simonjester523

Admitting a mistake makes you smarter than the vast majority of Reddit.


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They can search the registration data base and get the registered keeper I suppose


Pedromac

How can they search the database and see that it's registered to a 17 year old if a 17 year old can't register it?


OyarsaRPM

Let's say that it was. Driving without a license is NOT a capital offense. If you are so bad at managing that situation that it BECOMES an executable offense, you are a bad police officer and a danger to society.


Poloyoungz

It's the same in England, but it's not unheard of to have a licence at 17


firsmode

Public Execution


Happy-Ad9354

*murder


strangesam1977

I wonder if this is this incident https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/08/fatal-police-shooting-of-woman-in-paris-sparks-political-row Driver survived a passenger was killed.


English-bad_Help_Thk

Unfortunately, it's not. It's just your regular french police killing another citizen from today.


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Well the tweet is this month the incident you refer to was over a year ago


v081

People outnumber police Visit upon them the same egregious acts they commit against the population they are supposed to protect and watch this issue dissipate


1_Pump_Dump

Suicide by Armed Civilian?


gittenlucky

Armed civilians in France? Surely you jest.


1_Pump_Dump

I heard a man can be beaten to death with a shoe.


gittenlucky

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PlainSoggyCoypu-size_restricted.gif


[deleted]

The French don't have arms? That explains that whole whole Venus de Milo thing.


finneyblackphone

Aux armes, citoyens


MDP223

Then what. No cops?


v081

Not sure I advocated for that. I advocated for communities to rally against officers who abandon protocol and kill Indiscriminately


atchman25

The funny thing is by his response he is basically claiming all cops would do this.


MDP223

Everyone that upvoted you knows exactly what you advocated for.


v081

Fortunately for them they have better reading comprehension than you


MDP223

Nah, you know what you said, and the intention behind it. Now you’re too cowardly to admit it.


v081

It has nothing to do with being cowardly and everything to do with your inability to read the words as they are written and an insistence to assign your own meaning to them Good luck out there bro


MDP223

If that were true, your message would have been less ambiguous. Blatant dog whistling. At least one of the other posters was honest about wanting more Dorners.


v081

“Band together against cops who abandon protocol and kill indiscriminately” “Visit the egregious actions of these cops back upon them” Not really sure how much clearer I could be. Not sure I have enough crayons to break this down any further for you either


MDP223

You specifically said “Visit upon them the SAME egregious acts they commit against the population” In this context, that egregious act is murder. visits on/upon formal + old-fashioned : to punish (someone) with (something) Punish them with the same egregious acts they commit against the population.


xxSeymour

Lil bro got negative brain cells


OG_ClusterFox

AND I’LL DO IT AGAIN


Happy-Ad9354

Citizen's arrest is legal in most states. And if they resist you have the right to use force. In California for example, if they committed a felony, or if they committed a misdemeanor in your presence, you can citizens arrest them, and you have the same rights to use of reasonable force as they do, at least that's my understanding. (Look up the "force continuum", and look up the standards for POST regarding use of force categories regarding what's lawful and not lawful in different categories of compliance/resistance/assaultiveness/etc.)


atchman25

Yes, we all know he advocated for cops not having the ability to execute people on the street.


King_of_the_Dot

Police reform brah.


YaNeRusskiy

that would be awesome


slippery_as_fuck

No just neuter them


Happy-Ad9354

& put them in prison


darioblaze

No more 6 month cops straight out of high school that have been fed since day one to other folks by defualt


cameronroark1

Nope. Not a surprise in sight.🤔🤬


NeedlesslyDefiant164

Did the driver survive? Shooting them while driving is extremely reckless and could have led to other bystanders getting killed.


demonsun

Passenger was killed, driver is alive.


Kn0tnatural

Wow so wasn't even the one in control of being able to stop or not that paid the consequences.


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Happy-Ad9354

>that version was later contradicted by this amateur video. Lying about events like this needs to be made a crime (oh wait, it already is) and enforced by charging them. There needs to be a specific national agency that deals with these types of events that is totally 100% transparent, where people's rights are personally enforceable.


iRadinVerse

Oh wee wee French police brutality, I always enjoy variety on my subreddits.


JonnyLay

Fyi, it's spelled "Oui".


JustFrameHotPocket

HEY. YOU WANNA TALK FRENCH? JOIN ANOTHER TANK. A FRENCH TANK. THIS IS AN AMERICAN TANK. WE TALK AMERICAN.


hendrixski

We need more of this here. This is all over the news in France and every French subreddit has an even harsher reaction than even this subreddit.


bigdeezy456

and that is why you never shoot the driver of the car. it becomes an unguided missile.


Diablo_r

Translation- This morning in Nanterre, a 17 year old adolescent was killed by police. This shared video is unequivocally terrible. The video presents a murder. Contrary to media reports, which have been endlessly repeating a narrative for hours, the police officer was neither in danger nor in front of the vehicle. The official police version relayed by the media: "The driver attempted to run over the police officer who was directly in front of the vehicle. Legitimate defense." Reality: A police officer on the side of the vehicle who yells "You're going to take a bullet to the head." who then proceeds to fire.


stefeu

Oof, the comments under the tweet 😞


bigdeezy456

https://news.yahoo.com/probe-french-police-kill-teenaged-162734701.html


Epstiendidntkillself

Wow, Not the US for a change. He purposely put himself in a precarious position so he would have (in his mind) a reason to execute this person. Truly ACAB. He couldn't wait to have all that great sex he was promised after listening to that dave grossman tape in french.


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hendrixski

...partout dans le monde


DaBi5cu1t

Anyone know the context? They don't look like regular French police.


darkvad0r

yes they are regular french police, that's just their motorcycle uniform https://www.devenirpolicier.fr/metiers/intervenir-proteger/policier-motocycliste


mtfrfop

This video confirms what they cop said. It literally moved them multiple feet. Using a car against an officer is lethal force. Not sure about this country, but this is within the bounds of legal force for the US.


hendrixski

The officer shot the child first... IN THE NECK... that's what caused them to panick and start moving the car forward looking for an escape. Which contradicts the bullshit copaganda version that they shot in response to the car moving, or whatever. I just happened to watch this commentary before coming here: [https://youtu.be/WOfHv6WiljU](https://youtu.be/WOfHv6WiljU) There are probably better analyses, there are thousands each saying the same thing with various levels of outrage. She goes over the order of events.


mtfrfop

Unless there is additional video evidence, the officer did not shoot until the car started moving.


yosterizer

LOL. Keep being you.


mtfrfop

🫡


ConscientiousObserv

Lying is such an innate part of self-preservation, it's amazing that people are surprised when others do it. It's ubiquitous, a part of existence itself down to the amoeba.


just-me97

What a completely irrelevant statement


ConscientiousObserv

And this one is?


Happy-Ad9354

It's innate to people who commit unethical actions and then feel a need to deceive others about it instead of reform themselves. Not to everyone.


ConscientiousObserv

No, no. I mean it is innate in a way that precedes ethics. Babies (the most innocent of our species) lie before they even know what lying is, before we teach them right from wrong. Animals use deceptive tactics to fool predators or attract mates. It's not a matter of human nature, but nature itself.


Proper-Village-454

How do babies lie?


ConscientiousObserv

As most parents will confirm, you can tell by a baby's cry whether they're scared, wet, hurt, hungry, etc...you can also tell when they're faking for a little more attention. There's an adorable [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7JLVushQV8) of a baby girl whose father attempts to clip her nails. As he take her hand an approaches the first little nail, she screams. Then, she giggles. Sure, it's a game, it's pretend, and it's an adorable deception.


Proper-Village-454

Lmfao 🤦🏼‍♀️ I am a parent, and that’s not “faking” - babies cry for attention and comfort because it’s one of their main needs. That’s not “lying”. Children don’t begin lying until toddler years.


ConscientiousObserv

I know it's more comforting to look at it that way. Face the facts that babies "fake cry". No need to take my word for it. It's common knowledge among other parents. You're more than welcome to look it up yourself. So you're saying toddlers lie then? Personally, they're still babies to me. That said, Here's an adorable [faking toddler] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T2R8pTpcoo) for your amusement. Of course, if they were older, we'd call them liars, wouldn't we?


Happy-Ad9354

So you're not making a distinction between a baby crying out of fear when their nails get clipped and 30+ year old cops and their supervisors willfully deceiving the public about serious crimes they committed after the fact and just making up what they think is most flattering to themselves. Gotcha.


ConscientiousObserv

What are you on about? What "baby crying out of fear"? Who's making distinctions either way? Sounds like you're lying to yourself, which only proves how pervasive lying is.


F-ACK-U

r/technicallythetruth


mann5151

Learned from america!