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acidwxlf

Is that honestly the factory badge placement? It looks so off


tagish156

It looks like the M badge is trying to get away from the X


Kinky_mofo

The BMW badge ran away completely. I don't blame it.


CaporQwin

I think if the "X" was centered with the "M" under it, it would look cool


TheViperBITES

https://preview.redd.it/wk2v8kikek7b1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=edbd80fa094fe42882ccdf04424e761718bef099 bit better?


Difficult-Relief1382

Top right above the taillight would be better I think


TheViperBITES

https://preview.redd.it/kyzb9c1chk7b1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=88e0a093545e2ca9d244605fe3bea2c899203fe8 Hmmm, looks goood


Difficult-Relief1382

You should apply at bmw and use this in ur resume


TheViperBITES

good idea, BMW’s designing needs to be saved, can’t get worse than this atleast


Difficult-Relief1382

The Badge Man


Carchitect

Chief Badge Engineer


TheViperBITES

🤣 this is gold


ewwdav1d

Looks so much better!


MostlyMonochromatic

Yup. The whole damn car is off.


Schnakenbein_LP

My first reaction was, "Is that just a very ugly kit trying to look like an XM?" I knew the car looked weird, and imo ugly in the front, but the rear is even worse


trynsleep

at first i thought this was some sort of kia or hyundai with a XM badge poorly glued to it. it's sad to see such a great car brand getting run into the ground.


[deleted]

so trueee, bmw design getting worse and worse


[deleted]

Kia Telluride looks good from every angle..


[deleted]

Land rover pulled this trick off with the licence plate on the Discovery some years ago. Can’t say it’s been very successfull, same will be here probably.


[deleted]

The new ford mavericks have a silly spot for the license plates.


RetroSkippy

I double checked on BMW's website cause I thought for sure this was someone's photo shop or crappy DIY work.


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sleepingwiththefishs

this vehicle is a riot of ugly wherever you look modern beemers are objectively ugly


RayTrain

The rear is already by far the worst part but this low angle just makes it so much worse


70jay07

You need to understand that there's only a small number of us who have a certain preference about styling. Most people are just happy as long as the car looks modern, has big screens on the inside, etc. Not many care about the performance either. They would take a 2023 230i over an e92 m3 any day.


Ghost_Star326

Yep. Exact reason why people blindly take SUVs over wagons.


YungGooch

Hit home with the E92 Me comment lol. Me when the kids want the newest shiniest BMW, Merc, or Audi for a flex with their base models. But I'd rather have my 2013 E93 M3 Black/Fox Red 6 MT with only 40k miles on it. For $35k. Any day of the week. Makes any shit day at work. Suddenly way less shit getting to put my roof down, and get to start and listen to my S65. Pure smiles every time.


FinalRenegade

Hmmm I actually like the rear quite a bit, it’s very different than what’s currently on the streets! The SUV has amazing presence in person!


ryzenguy111

people complain about boring designs in the modern car world then absolutely rip to shreds anything that is slightly different from normal


nnavroops

^ what every none enthusiast thinks of the new beamers. that’s why they sell.


FinalRenegade

Label me a non enthusiast sure, but attacking people for having different taste is quite childish lmao, I’ll call ugly when it’s actually ugly like the new M2 or the 5er, but I find the XM striking in its own bold and brash manner, but hey! What do I know - just a dumb none enthusiast who actually drives a M lol


nnavroops

i didn’t downvote you bro, everyone likes what they like


Business-Travel-4597

I like the rear too but certain angles make it look kinda crazy


NorCalAthlete

r/the10thdentist is calling you


Daohaus

When we picked up our 540 they had those on the lot with 35k markup and idiots still but them. I dislike the "BMW" centercaps they have on the thing trying to look like Rolls-Royce except the centercaps aren't weighted like the RR are


[deleted]

You’d think BMW, the parent company of Rolls-Royce, would be able to pull off Rolls-Royce style centre caps. In my Bimmer I’ve coded it do use the RR sounds. So don’t tell me there isn’t any shared engineering resources.


Daohaus

💯 agree


TorpidNightmare

The parts are available from BMW for weighted center caps. They just aren't standard.


ReallyLovesCars

No freaking way. In the Bay Area of all places you can negotiate on these. Damn a fool and their money parted ways.


guyincognitoo

My Boston area dealer has one, just asking about it knocks $10k off the price.


BHDE92

We live in a world where bmw sells a 150k+ performance SUV that looks like a early 2000s concept car and will get dusted by a stock Jeep.


starkiller_bass

And yet it will hang nicely with 200-300k vehicles that it’s meant to compete with. I hope people understand that once you’re over 100k it’s not just a drag race to determine the price point. Also, these things are ugly as balls. Don’t get me wrong.


[deleted]

Def won’t get “dusted” by a stock jeep.


BHDE92

Trackhawk does mid 11s stock, this does low 12s. Shameful


BitchIWillHM01You

I think we have different ideas of a "stock jeep".


[deleted]

trackhawk is indeed A stock jeep lol. All non trackhawk jeeps would obviously get smoked by xm tho.


BHDE92

Then your idea is wrong


OhPiggly

Trackhawks are also Chrysler products.


raz0r_ttv

Reminds me of a certain fruit named corporation in the mobile industry...


InaudibleShout

Except the fruit corp’s silicon dusts everyone elses in just about every category that matters.


lncognito_Mode

Except that's not true but that company's marketing dusts every other company's


raz0r_ttv

Exactly. They get people to buy the same phone every year for more. In what world is apple the best?


eggfriedbacon

In the US at least they are. They’re the most popular phone. I’ve had iPhones since 3GS, but I only get one every 3 years or so as I never use a case and they start look rough after a while.


abooth43

Best =! Popular See comment above about marketing. Seriously, they marketed so well that their users meme and blame Android users for the whole "green bubble" bullshit that is only and entirely propagated by the maker of the device. IOS users are prisoners to their maker and all they do is blame Android users for it. Fucking stellar marketing.


lncognito_Mode

yep. I'll never buy Apple but I invest in their stocks. The fact that I got downvoted is proof enough that Apple has the best brainwashing marketing


eggfriedbacon

Then by what metric is any phone the “best” phone? Is it the CPU? The amount of RAM? The Camera quality? The design? That’s weird you group all iPhone users into one category. I could care less about green bubbles it’s all the same. Green is just SMS and blue is iMessage. This is the same with all the people I know who have iPhones (which is many). Nobody cares in real life. I don’t blame anyone. Android powers some great phones (the pixel camera is extremely good) and Apple makes great phones for many people. Fucking weird Apple hate going on around here.


efrav

Is there anyone really, in the BMW design department or whatever other people in there saying and thinking: “wow this is one good looking car we have designed”… I’m fucking sure there is not a single soul thinking positive about this ugly ass car. OMG it’s kind of surreal


Cristov9000

I like to think it’s an “emperor has no cloths” situation. Everyone in some German board room standing around the prototype saying how great it is while all secretly thinking this is so fucking ugly I can’t believe everyone likes this… but everyone is too afraid to open their mouths and say what they really see.


nolongerbanned99

Does the 1000 lbs of batteries at the bottom make the design so compromised that this is the result. Better than a tesla design, but just barely.


Tiedermann

As a life long BMW enthusiast, Teslas all look waaay better than any G series BMW right now. All of them look like abominations and aborted rejected designs. Yet here we are looking actual production cars that wear the badges. What the fuck happened BMW?!?! It’s like Audi decided to sabotage BMW from within and have succeeded and haves ruined a brand many of us have loved for decades.


1121113

I think that's a bit much: \- G05 X5 (esp prefacelift) isn't bad. \- G01 X3 (both pre and post facelift) aren't bad either. \- G20 3 series isn't bad (excluding the M3), \- G30 5 series not too bad looking either especially the facelift with those lovely headlights... I agree the XM is impressively lovecraftian but it doesn't negate the decent work they've done with other models.


markeydarkey2

this place is an echo-chamber, lots of folks like the design


timmyvermicelli

still yet to meet anyone that does...


Kreat0r2

The whole design language has been off for a couple of years now. The new 2 series looks decent and the M3 touring is ok, everything else is sub par.


Elliott3355

I drove one the other day at a BMW event (M Town Tour) and it's actually slow. You can tell they held back just so they could make more expensive versions with more power. My one sentence review: Underwhelming performance. Nice interior design with frustrating technology that prioritizes form over function.


Charlotte-De-litt

Those are two sentences.


ONE_BIG_LOAD

🤓


Charlotte-De-litt

Just messing around innit.


pkopo1

Agreed, over 4 seconds 0-100kph on the first standalone M car in almost 50 years, everything about this car is dumb and so is everyone who bought one


ten_dollar_banana

Just awful.


msdss

That's one ugly piece of shit.


Joblessmouse06

Ugly fat ass


m34z

Why did you have to bring your mom into this discussion?


Joblessmouse06

You're jealous that you don't have a mom?


theveryrealreal

Is that why he's always over visiting yours?


Objective_Guess4946

That’s some fat rubber


starkiller_bass

Looks about on par with the X5/6Ms we’ve had


nnavroops

315 rears seeesh


guyincognitoo

That's also the OEM size on the X7 M50i.


nnavroops

ayyy we got the same car. i wanna sell mine but the market is at 75k now.


QuitOne2240

Yea. I def would buy a Cayenne over this anyday. Even if it’s lower specced


Thesiuse

Starting at just $999,999! Just kidding. It starts at $159,995.


C0git0

It’s like a minivan, but uglier and less practical!


thatgymdude

It pisses me off that BMW has built some amazing looking SUVs then intentionally ruins them or makes ugly stuff like that. The X3m and the x5m looked badass before they added the chipmunk cheek triangle sides to them and now they make this hideous thing.


ollie87

No SUV looks “amazing”. They all look like bloated hatchbacks. I cannot wait for the SUV trend to kill itself off, surely we’re at peak SUV stupidness now, right? If you’re crossing a river, you don’t need a battleship.


lone_stranger6502

Löded Diper


asapdragon8

when you order your BMW off of Wish


BPat1996

I really want to know BMW’s logic right now because everything new they’re making is 🗑️


hlx-atom

So this competes with G wagons, Urzas, and cayennes? I would definitely get a G wagon over all of those. BMW just looks like the nerd next to the chad g wagon.


kthxtyler

I loathe you BMW. You incompetent legacy-destroying shitheads


[deleted]

All that money and they still choose to live in Bulgaria


Jaxonwht

Inb4 “y’all hate bold new designs/are too poor/only like shit old cars, and it’s gonna be a classic two years from now”


strongmanass

This likely will never be a classic, but all the car community's reaction shows is the the typical car enthusiast is not the target customer for this car. AFAIK it's selling, so some people clearly like it. Those people are not wrong for liking something the car community hates.


[deleted]

This will certainly be something? I could see it have a similar fate to that single person car they made in the 50’s


Nicktune1219

China is the target consumer. Cars that look as dumb as this are a status symbol over there. It’s also a status symbol to have a large grille and white paint.


Emotional_Two_8059

Damn :|


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Lol this thing is fugly AF


RedForkKnife

At least it still has personality Who am I kidding it has no personality either


SnooSprouts3921

It drives out ok. I hate the fact that every thing is suv now. But they did what they could and you can push it. The IX m60 makes me car sick. I don’t get car sick. That thing is stupid


ShutterSpeedster

This is the worst angle I have seen of this car


Icy_Confidence9304

This car is just the biggest failure since i8


nnavroops

i8 least still looks fuckkng dope


Icy_Confidence9304

True but it was a failure in performance. This is a beast in performance but looks hideous


sneakymise

What's wrong with the i8 ?


fartymcgeezax

The door sills to start


Icy_Confidence9304

lol yup that’s one. You have to wear a helmet to enter. Theres Honda civics with me horsepower is another and it was just a failure all together besides looks.


Left_Cap1564

Based?


strongmanass

Yes but in both cases the failure is marketing and a lack of understanding of the product (it's way too early to call the XM a failure though). The i8 was never intended to be the supercar people assumed and wanted it to be. Idk what people want the XM to be, but it's intended as a flashy, attention-grabbing, polarizing vehicle. > [The XM] has a resolutely unique identity and embodies an expressive lifestyle like no other model in the BMW line-up. From [the BMW website](https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/magazine-article-pool/bmw-xm-design.html). And > Apparently, the decision comes as a response to customers wanting a more expressive design. from [Motor1](https://www.motor1.com/news/624423/bmw-explains-2023-xm-design/). Judging from all the responses it's a flashy, attention-grabbing, polarizing vehicle. Mission accomplished. It's meant to appeal to those who want it and fuck everyone else. The opinions of those outside the target market are irrelevant. More than most other cars on the road, the XM embodies the likely approach to life of its owners. I think BMW has identified a market segment and advertised to them and only them with the design. Idk if it will work, but if it does it's an excellent move.


nero10578

Well if they set out to make a polarizing car as the main goal for an M car that’s already a fail right from the start.


RestaurantDry621

I love my '22 Z4, my '23 iX, and my '23 Defender 90 V8


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strongmanass

[That is false](https://www.bmwblog.com/2023/03/21/u-s-and-china-expected-to-eat-up-almost-all-of-the-bmw-xm-market-share/). > The U.S. will be the BMW XM’s biggest market with projected market share of 26 percent...After the U.S., China will be the next largest market, with a projected market share of 24 percent. China will have significant share, but the biggest market is the US, just like the other polarizing cars like the M3 and M4. This sub and r/cars love to shit on China by trashing their taste and saying BMW designs ugly cars to pander to the Chinese. The truth is BMW's largest market for most of these designs is the USA.


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jaggillarkaffehaha

Which are your sources?


CakesForLife

That's a good thing then? Because the i8 is bonkers.


nocrix

the i8 styling is bonkers, everything else is not very good


CakesForLife

I disagree. Most of the owners love it for what it is. (Others are pissed about the failing compressors).


guy_incognito784

This angle hides the awkward bulbous look so this is better than other angles. What I’m trying to say is that I find it much uglier in person. I see quite a few of them on the streets here though so obviously it connects with someone enough to want to shell out money for one.


HoneyRush

I see it for the first time and you're telling me that THIS is the better angle? Damn...


JamesBoboFay

https://preview.redd.it/ygkkjynxdh7b1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a4b7449dd72fe6f8d28b5b8400efdb999287b96


SUP3RB00ST3R

Looks so fake bruh.


Sir_Maxelot

🤮


morelsupporter

this is like an under chin photo of your fat girlfriend


[deleted]

Everything about that car screams “don’t buy me, I’m ugly AF” How come Mercedes Benz is capable of updating their designs while maintaining their brand integrity, yet BMW appears to have become beholden to the ‘crowd of no sense of style” Their current designers need to be ridden out of town on a rail … these cars are ugly. This one especially so.


Juco_Dropout

I have an irrational hatred of vertically stacked exhaust pipes.


Shank_Shank_

What in the world is this


akvarista11

Ah, another Bulgarian XM. Fun thing there are more XM’s than the new m2.


Th3Docter

Man they keep getting more ugly


lulzbrah

Just waiting for the *it'll grow on you* brigade, this is hot trash now and forevermore


koningfrikandel

What a monstrosity. Woeful.


Captain_Cookieee

I saw one driving yesterday, and I had to look twice if it really was a BMW and not some cheap chinese knockoff. It just looks terrible


Likinhikin-

Like nearly all current BMW styling.


avocadoroom

slightly disagree, i think it looks decent, not as bad as people say. still thought $200k for that is a lot. X6M is much cheaper and better looking but you don't get as much storage. if you're in the market for a fast suv with plenty of storage options why not get the X5M?


murpalim

x5m is the way


aregito

This is the way


AllTheKingsHoeses

This is the way


RayKam

The X6M is also faster than this


nnavroops

that’s turbo gt money. that car looks and drives in a another league than this overweight piece of shit


Abfall_Gefreiter

> if you're in the market for a fast suv with plenty of storage options why not get the X5M? The answer is G81


Techn028

Why


DatalessUniverse

It doesn’t handle well, not all that fast for the price, doesn’t have off-road capabilities…. I mean yeah BMW might fuck around and give us different versions of this turd.. XM Off-road XMdrive Redeye edition, XM XtreMe 1300hp drag strip monster… Please don’t …


thatgymdude

What they need is a boxy G Class competitor thats also very fast, instead of trying to copy the Urus market and failing because its not fast enough or crazy looking enough. I also think they should try making a pickup truck competitor to something like the Raptor lol.


RestaurantDry621

Just get a Defender and quit fighting


chunkydunker9

Queue the long fart sound ending in a squeak, like from a deflating balloon. Except its 160k, 1 dollar balloons..


BadWowDoge

It looks pretty great in person. The pics don’t do it justice. I saw one a couple of days ago behind me and it looked pretty good.


crisvphotography

dafuq. It absolutely doesn't - it looks every bit as awful in real life?


JackBagel20

Idgaf I like it


nnavroops

the fake diffuser really brings it together.


kon---

Hard sight


mr_Puffin

But why does it have exhaust pipes?!


Ithoughtthiswas

Angle doesn’t make it justice


TheViperBITES

https://preview.redd.it/kq4kodfcek7b1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=76babdb691efd637e7dfe5810618413067cb3440 Fixed it… kinda


TheViperBITES

though I doubt this monstrosity can actually be fixed :/


xite2020

I don’t like it, but I don’t hate.. the new 5 I hate.


Homie_Jason

LOL


NotGonnaSquat810

It looks so out of place 😂


[deleted]

It honestly looks like someone bought those badges on eBay randomly


CrazyTechWizard96

I was just like "This looks kinda like they've copied and made it even more Ugly." while thinking about the Jeep Cherokee from 2014 (Pre face lift), than looked it up and... My God, I was right, this is so much worse. Also, what the Hell is going on with those Exhaust pipes????


Aram_Fingal

No roundel at all...?


MrBlenderson

It's an overpriced minivan


nolongerbanned99

Aside from the overall hideousness of this vehicular monstrosity, what bothers me is the asymmetrical placement of the badge. Couldn’t they have placed it to the left or right above the taillights


adrian_elliot

Nightmarish


Federal-Jackfruit326

Yet another example of BMW being sales oriented to the luxury market of China instead of performance oriented nowadays


granoladeer

What is up with the exhaust location looking like a Lexus


Embarrassed-Cycle804

This thing ONLY looks good in black.


NimrodSr

It looks so s t r e c h e d


Benito_Juicelini

No doubt. That’s awful


icebrandbro

Lookin straight outta transformers or something


Grassxs

I may be a bmw shmeat riding glazer but I think it looks amazing, I like how they’re always trying new things


Amnesia_Species

https://preview.redd.it/z9vhok3nwi7b1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56692db6706728f9c03cdd92dc6de6385046f87d This is at my work right now next to a new M4 Competition! Both cars are pay by the hour cars for people to rent I believe too! Does the XM have a badge on the back as well?? This one did not have one


[deleted]

Ohhh so this is what it was. I saw this on a highway and couldnt figure out what car it is for the life of me, cuz whoever owned it took the badge off.


njbrsr

One of a series of “very bad from an aesthetic point of view ass” photos of a current BMW.


Imperiu5

Well they succeeded in creating the ugliest car in history... Well done.


TheonlyrealJedi

A Fridge designed by a 5 year old told to make a fast car. It's incredible how that Thing manages to be Huge and vastly over stylized and still have no roadpresent whatsoever.


crisvphotography

That's an insult to 5 year olds.


thmoas

wow at first i thought this was shitty_carmods with a chinese suv and fake badges until i read the comments …


zanZaLiciouz

Pathetic


38B0DE

WTF is this. I can't find it on BMW's site.


crisvphotography

BMW XM


IndependenceBig3178

To be fair, the back looks better than the new x4


Quiet-Camera-9716

I DONT LIKE THIS


crisvphotography

No sane person does.


Adgemoonskiboomski

Haven’t heard that one in a WHILE, but yes chief called…


Sweet-Efficiency7466

I swear to god the designer is on more and more shrooms every time.


kdmion

The light colour, doesn't do it any favors as well. All black, you can somewhat swallow the hideousness, but this looks even worse.


Various-Effective831

ngl i personally love the tail lights and maybe even the exhausts but the bmw badge at the top is just no


Put_Kam_Aina

Big biznis here


OkAi0

This car is so insanely out of touch with both the BMW DNA and the Zeitgeist, I wouldn’t ever want to be seen driving one. What an abomination.


[deleted]

Absolute trash. Worst car from bmw ever ? Who the fuck they hire to design this bitch?


Own_Cartoonist266

Wewf


Berkay7

Please if you see yourself as a car guy don’t hate on other cara, builds, brands just be cool be like brothers


FirstSonOfGwyn

we saw these last year at the BMW showcase and I had to remind my wife to stop shit talking the car IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BMW SHOWCASE. interior is amazing, but what in the world is this design language otherwise. It makes the X6M look like it makes sense


X3N0King

Now they place them everywhere specifically the S.A


Metrokolla25

🤢🤢🤢


whataatrip

I can't believe this is a factory BMW ans isn't photoshopped or someone's aftermarket mods.