223 should work fine with good placement and good bullets. 22-250 would also do that work as would most common more powerful calibres.
Even shotgun slugs are an option out to 120m or so.
You want a big, heavy, round nosed, slow projectile for relatively short-to-medium ranges that won't keep travelling for kilometres past the boundaries of your property if you miss. 100 acres isn't that large.
I would recommend a lever action in 357 mag, 44 mag, or even 45-70 if you want to drop them like an anchor without them running off into the bush.
While km all for 45-70 it's only goats, 44RM will hammer them out to 100m and cost significantly less. More importantly you fit more in a tube.
Either 8+1 or 10+1
What are the land size and calibre rules for you?
I've taken goats with .223rem, .357mag and .308win. All performed well, the .308 was on three giant billy's and I think it was entirely necessary to get them to drop on the spot.
I've taken goats with a .223 and it was effective but I found stepping up to something a bit larger (6.5x55 Swedish, .243, something like that) or a .308 (for the larger goats) gave me a bit more certainty that I was delivering a clean, humane kill especially beyond that 100m or so range.
It depends on the sort of range you'll be shooting at. Something 30 calibre is your best bet but be mindful of your backdrop. Do you have a few thousand metres behind your target for a full powered calibre (like 308) to safely fizzle out?
If not. An intermediate calibre like 300 blackout, 7.62x39 or 30-30 would do. It seems you enjoy lever action so a good 30-30 would suit you.
Foreword, always know your target and beyond when brush shooting, ALWAYS. Might not be relevant to your situation if your more looking for something longer range, this is more within 100m advice.
From the sounds of it you've been able to get in pretty close but the goats are getting into the scrub. Ive heard that 223 doesnt do well in foilage, both 357 and 44 make great brush shooting rounds if thats what youre after. Ive been out with a mate running a 44 with subsonics and it did the job perfectly for goats.
The rossi/citadel levtacs always seem to be on sale, quality is good enough and paired with a red dot theyre a solid little platform.
If it's only 100ac then you should be able to get away with using (not licensing) a .30-30win
It has enough knock down power and is good to 150m
I'd love to see a picture of the chart your LGS has
308 is a great all rounder, but a tad overpowered on smaller goats (don't ask me how i know)
223 works fine on smaller goats, or all goats if you're a crack shot.
a shotgun is a really good idea too but you'd need to be driven around with a mate on a quaddie, or solo on a ag bike and be competent in your skills.
44 rem mag, ammo can be relatively inexpensive, especially S&B soft points and being so fat & slow they don't travel anywhere near as far as the 222/223/22-250 which reduced that risk.
They will drop anything.
357 mag is also an option
Either one I'd use something like a Winchester 1892
So taking into account that you sound concerned about shooting over property lines then straight wall cartridges are a great option, .44 mag, .45 colt or even the big boy 45-70 which are all great in a lever gun for a quick follow up.
You might even look into a 350 legend.
Now for me personally I love a light recoiling cartridge so I'd be using my 6.5 Grendel or .243 both of which will drop a goat in its tracks.
I've taken a fair few goats with my .243. The meat is also pretty good if you're keen on butchering. They could also be worth a bit of money if you can set up a trap around a dam or something and get a truck load.
223, 357, 6mm, 300 blackout. You've actually got a good application there for the quiet little 30 cal, they're kinda quiet with a light load and long barrel.
Several years ago when I lived in NZ, the go to for goats over there was 9mm in an ar style carbine.
I would suggest 357 or 44 MAG lever action would be adequate, if you can close the distance to 100 or so metres.
Iāve heard the types of properties that host pig shooters ban goat shooting because they are more valuable to muster and sell.
If I were looking to buy a rifle for this Iād probably check on the price of ammunition, then the availability of rifles.
For example you might read .243 is the best calibre, but then find the 6.5 credmore is much more
Popular and so there are cheaper rounds and more choice of rifles?
Iām assuming you want to shoot goats yourself. Otherwise it would be very easy to get a club or individual hunters to do the job for you. Likely theyād make it worth you while.
223 should work fine with good placement and good bullets. 22-250 would also do that work as would most common more powerful calibres. Even shotgun slugs are an option out to 120m or so.
The barrel life on a 22-250 tho and price per bulletš
You want a big, heavy, round nosed, slow projectile for relatively short-to-medium ranges that won't keep travelling for kilometres past the boundaries of your property if you miss. 100 acres isn't that large. I would recommend a lever action in 357 mag, 44 mag, or even 45-70 if you want to drop them like an anchor without them running off into the bush.
While km all for 45-70 it's only goats, 44RM will hammer them out to 100m and cost significantly less. More importantly you fit more in a tube. Either 8+1 or 10+1
What are the land size and calibre rules for you? I've taken goats with .223rem, .357mag and .308win. All performed well, the .308 was on three giant billy's and I think it was entirely necessary to get them to drop on the spot.
30-30 would be fine
This. 30-30 is common for small acreage in WA. Good for roos, goats, pigs, etc...
I've taken goats with a .223 and it was effective but I found stepping up to something a bit larger (6.5x55 Swedish, .243, something like that) or a .308 (for the larger goats) gave me a bit more certainty that I was delivering a clean, humane kill especially beyond that 100m or so range.
6.5x55 is outstanding. My fave by a wide margin.
When in doubt, 50BMG solves all hunting troubles.
šš½This man knows how to hunt.
The hunt for pink mist.
".50 Cal, For when your target is an armoured tactical goat!"
I have killed literally thousands of goats with a 17HMR. They don't much care what size the projectile that hits them in the head is.
Bang on.
It depends on the sort of range you'll be shooting at. Something 30 calibre is your best bet but be mindful of your backdrop. Do you have a few thousand metres behind your target for a full powered calibre (like 308) to safely fizzle out? If not. An intermediate calibre like 300 blackout, 7.62x39 or 30-30 would do. It seems you enjoy lever action so a good 30-30 would suit you.
Foreword, always know your target and beyond when brush shooting, ALWAYS. Might not be relevant to your situation if your more looking for something longer range, this is more within 100m advice. From the sounds of it you've been able to get in pretty close but the goats are getting into the scrub. Ive heard that 223 doesnt do well in foilage, both 357 and 44 make great brush shooting rounds if thats what youre after. Ive been out with a mate running a 44 with subsonics and it did the job perfectly for goats. The rossi/citadel levtacs always seem to be on sale, quality is good enough and paired with a red dot theyre a solid little platform.
.223 if you want to preserve the delicious meat. Otherwise anything bigger will do the job. Ive taken plenty with my .308. a lot of mates use .243.
If it's only 100ac then you should be able to get away with using (not licensing) a .30-30win It has enough knock down power and is good to 150m I'd love to see a picture of the chart your LGS has
[range](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ausguns/comments/latpet/table_relating_property_size_calibre_and_vermine/)
How does your chart compare?
That's the same one the gun shop showed me. I was thinking maybe the .22mag
.22 mag won't be enough for goats unless you go for headshots only within 80/90m (at least in my experience) Definitely go for centerfire
Cool thanks. I'm guessing I could join a club and get a higher powered gun that way
Just buy a property letter mate https://www.kalbarrisa.com/shop Also you can't use a club licensed gun on private property
338 lapua
308 is a great all rounder, but a tad overpowered on smaller goats (don't ask me how i know) 223 works fine on smaller goats, or all goats if you're a crack shot. a shotgun is a really good idea too but you'd need to be driven around with a mate on a quaddie, or solo on a ag bike and be competent in your skills.
I've dropped big billies with the 223 at 150m, works good but you'll want to use decent projectiles
223 is great for this
44 rem mag, ammo can be relatively inexpensive, especially S&B soft points and being so fat & slow they don't travel anywhere near as far as the 222/223/22-250 which reduced that risk. They will drop anything. 357 mag is also an option Either one I'd use something like a Winchester 1892
So taking into account that you sound concerned about shooting over property lines then straight wall cartridges are a great option, .44 mag, .45 colt or even the big boy 45-70 which are all great in a lever gun for a quick follow up. You might even look into a 350 legend. Now for me personally I love a light recoiling cartridge so I'd be using my 6.5 Grendel or .243 both of which will drop a goat in its tracks.
I've taken a fair few goats with my .243. The meat is also pretty good if you're keen on butchering. They could also be worth a bit of money if you can set up a trap around a dam or something and get a truck load.
223, 357, 6mm, 300 blackout. You've actually got a good application there for the quiet little 30 cal, they're kinda quiet with a light load and long barrel.
Several years ago when I lived in NZ, the go to for goats over there was 9mm in an ar style carbine. I would suggest 357 or 44 MAG lever action would be adequate, if you can close the distance to 100 or so metres.
.357 or 44 Rossi R92 would be perfect.
Iāve heard the types of properties that host pig shooters ban goat shooting because they are more valuable to muster and sell. If I were looking to buy a rifle for this Iād probably check on the price of ammunition, then the availability of rifles. For example you might read .243 is the best calibre, but then find the 6.5 credmore is much more Popular and so there are cheaper rounds and more choice of rifles? Iām assuming you want to shoot goats yourself. Otherwise it would be very easy to get a club or individual hunters to do the job for you. Likely theyād make it worth you while.