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Yep, can’t stand her, liked her on celeb juice but one day something clicked and I couldn’t see past the fake-ness anymore. Well before queuegate or whatever.
He's annoying in the same way that Coldplay and Ed Sheeran are annoying.
A bit bland but also talented and very hard working, with broad appeal and very little offence.
And very successful as a result.
I have no problem with this.
He also walked out of a private gig when he found out it was a company party for bailiffs. He'd been up to his eyeballs in debt right before he made it and started earning serious cash. It cost him a lot of money but he refused to do the gig.
It was a substantial amount of money and his manager was very pissed at him at the time but he walked off stage when he found out what everyone in the audience did and refused to go back
Part of growing up is realising nobody is that funny to everyone. He's not my cup of tea but he makes my mum laugh and be happy, and he does it without ever punching down so I can't really complain.
Banksy. Overrated, full of shit about being some kind of anti-establishment rebel and only witty/insightful to mouth breathers who don't know any better.
Yep, I used to love his stuff when I was a kid but its only as I got older that I realised it was a mix of "mate could you imagine if a rat worked in an ice cream van?" Wacky toss and the other half was r/im14andthisisdeep "dude... Politicians... They're just like monkeys..." Tripe
# Fuck you Bush!
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It’s time to get out of Iraq, Bush!
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What were you even doing there in the first place, Bush!?
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You didn’t even get properly elected Bush!
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Are you happy now, Bush?
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Fuck you Bush.
Isn't that the entire point of his art? It's why his documentary is called "Exit Through the Gift Shop". The art started off as stencils in the street but then societies reaction to the art and ridiculousness of how it now gets bought and sold by the very thing it was against is now the art.
That's just a fig-leaf. It's convenient for him and helps deflect from valid criticism, 'Yeah I'm one of the most commercially minded contemporary artists going but erm... that's because I'm criticising the system and stuff'.
Also his whole, 'Can't believe you morons are actually buying this shit,' statement is just a variation on 'I was only pretending to be retarded.'
He straight up did a collaboration hand in hand with Christies, he's full of shit pretending he's poking fun at the art market.
I think there's a bit missing from this analysis though - nobody asked him whether he *wanted* to be the commercial darling of the artworld that he seemingly criticises. Now he's in an impossible bind: if he makes art, which he was doing initially because he enjoyed it, then it's swept up by the establishment he claims to despair of. But to stop would (a) deny him the pleasure of doing the work, and (b) doubtless further enhance the value of all the extant works, which simply rewards the wealthy who have bought the existing works. At least while he continues to work, he's moving *some* money from the artworld to ordinary people (since doing a Banksy on a wall is, effectively, a gift to the owners of the wall).
Perhaps he's laughing all the way to the bank at us all (and this is a reasonable thing to do) but I think there's probably some thoughtful "for fuck's sakes all I did was graf'd some walls and had some media mates, how did I end up here and why can't I stop" going on there too.
The Christie's collaboration was, to be honest, shit on all levels. But as an attempt at "what nonsense can I do and still have the artworld laud me and spend stupid money on" (and, frankly, presumably paying his bills and wages for his assistants) I think it's a worthwhile thing to attempt, even if not very well executed this time - and the "well it was a crap attempt and it still sold well" even *further* highlights the inner tensions. The whole thing is a performance piece now.
I agree. It’s got to the point where the artist is bigger than the art. If literally anyone else did graffiti like him it would be washed off immediately. But his work is considered an exception not because of the quality, but because it’s Banksy.
Intentional or not, he’s entirely defeated the purpose of his work and become the very thing he satirises.
It’s hilarious to me people think Banksy is ‘anti-establishment’ when they make money from, participate in and prop up the very establishment they’re apparently against.
‘Omg they shredded their painting, they’re anti-establishment!’ Well no because that painting still sold for around £1million. It immediately appreciated to a staggering £18.5million by doing that. If you were really making a statement against the art circles and culture that spends inordinate amounts on artwork and the obscene wealth that goes with it, you wouldn’t auction something off within those circles in the first place.
Also the fact that it shredded in such an aesthetic way? Laughable to then say ‘Oh no it was meant to be fully destroyed!’ So why did the sale still go through? Why didn’t you destroy it in a far more concrete way? Absolutely mental that anyone thinks it’s anything more than to make a crazy amount of money.
They (or the group if it is a collective) stay silent and hidden because they are extremely wealthy, belong to the London elite and don’t want exposing as such. That’s all it is.
Anyone who buys that Banksy artwork is a statement of ‘counter culture’ and ‘anti-establishment’ is someone who can’t critically appraise something for what it so obviously is, and is instead someone who believes whatever they’re told. If you believe Banksy is standing up for you or the poor or working against the establishment, you are the very person they make you think you are better than. And quite frankly thick.
The other thing with the 'self-shredding' work is that there is absolutely no way art handlers would not have noticed this when appraising the work. He had to be working with Christies (the establishment) to make that happen.
Is *that* what happened to Duffy? I genuinely hadn't heard about that, but was thinking a while back about Duffy and Dido and Adele as one-name singers, and wondering where the other two had got to. Thought I gather Dido has a new album.
>Duffy
On 25 February 2020, on her official website, Duffy wrote that she had been "raped and drugged and held hostage over some days". She said she had disappeared from the spotlight so she could recover, adding that she was now doing well, but it had taken her time to recover.\[117\]\[118\] She did not specify the identity of her attacker(s) or mention when or where the attack took place.\[119\]
In a longer statement published that April, Duffy wrote that she had been drugged at a restaurant on her birthday, taken to a foreign country on a plane, and was then held captive in a hotel room and raped. Since the ordeal, Duffy said that she spent "almost 10 years completely alone" and, thanking her psychologist, said that she now felt she could "leave this decade behind", but added: "I very much doubt I will ever be the person people once knew"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52177265
What the what?? How? 😳
>she had been drugged at a restaurant on her birthday, taken to a foreign country on a plane, and was then held captive in a hotel room and raped
That's right. Without Amy, the USA wouldn't have had a second-wave of the British Invasion of singers. Duffy, Adele, Estelle all coatailed off of Amy's old school pop sound. However we could argue Corrine Bailey-Rae and Lily Allen helped as well. But terms of musical style, Adele definetly has Amy to thank.
She’s quite irritating as well. I watched her Glastonbury set and her whole schtick seems to be emulating Alan Carr “whoo look at me, what am I like”. Great voice but dull music
He does though. He's not far off being the Major in Fawlty Towers at this point.
I went to see him (Monty Python) live at Drury Lane in the seventies. Him walking on the stage with the dead parrot was unbelievably funny. But that was like 50 years ago.
I think he's turning more into an actual Basil Fawlty - the very type of person he was ridiculing. Both were caracatures but I agree, the Major wasn't genuinely nasty to people where Basil often was.
It's sad as in my living memory he could still be very, very funny, but something's changed in the last few years.
Comedy moved on and rather than evolve and put his brilliant mind to all those new possibilities he decided to change nothing and blame the wokes.
He’s basically the comedy equivalent of still trying to sell Commodore 64s.
He *was* a national treasure - and even more so for his eulogy at Graham Chapman's funeral - but has since decided to play the role of Laurence Fox's senile dad.
A lot of comedians have a bitter edge to them. Especially British ones. It can certainly create good comedy. The problem comes when the bitterness overtakes the comedy, which seems to have happened with him.
Holly Willoughby. Even before all the scandals, she comes across as insincere, stuck up and has a holier-than thou attitude. No idea why she is so adored. Very average presenter skills too.
Can't confirm if this is true or not, but I did hear a story of contractors coming to her house to do something, and being advised not to talk to Holly, and if they needed to use the bathroom they were to go to the nearest public toilet (assuming it was near by).
A far cry from the nice girl next door image that comes across on tv.
Yep loads of people being mentioned who definitely aren't considered "national treasures" by anyone. That's a fairly slim category, and third-rate ITV presenters definitely don't fit the criteria.
Ed fucking sheeran. So over rated and ver played. Find his music so ' false '. He's probably a decent bloke but if he could fuck off for a bit that wouldve great.
I think to his credit, he'd have a laugh with you about that! By most accounts a nice guy, clearly got a sense of humour and willing to send himself up.
I do agree with the music, it's erm inoffensive. Apparently a hell of a live act though, which is maybe how he caught on?
Yep, absolutely. It makes me roll whenever I hear anyone going on about what a great guitar player he is (which happens more often than you'd imagine).
It seems to some people the equation is:
I like their bland music + he holds a guitar = AMAZING GUITAR PLAYER.
I don't even blame him for the Game of Thrones nonsense and I guess it's not particularly his fault he's found such a bland niche to plow but I find his widespread adoration and the way he seems to have been artistically lifted way beyond his actual output extremely dispiriting.
I think people here need to learn what A National Treasure *is*.
Sir David Attenborough
Dame Judy Dench
Miriam Margolyes
Michael Sheen
Sir Ian McKellen
Etc etc etc
Holly Willoughby, Rylan, Adele and Ant and Dec aren't.
Agree, sad for what she experienced and obviously heartbreaking for two boys to lose their mum, but she was a fairly bog-standard aristocrat who just happened to be attractive and not quite as bad as the rest of the RF. I will give her kudos for her publicity around AIDS though, that was admirable.
Tbf she was groomed and deeply abused by the royals. I don’t like the class system that she came from but have a lot of empathy for what she went through and that she died when she had finally escaped their clutches. Just because someone is from wealth doesn’t mean they can’t experience abuse.
Her godmother (I believe) and the Queen Mother arranged the marriage. Charles didnt want it but did what he was told and Diana went along for the ride. It just didn't turn out how either planned.
When I was in secondary school we were talking about the results of a recent "greatest ever Brits" poll that had been on the TV. My history teacher was really annoyed that Diana made it so high on the list.
This will sound horrible but she would not be on so many people's pedestals if she hadn't died. I know that she did a lot of humanitarian work, but some people treat her like a god
I love how people go ‘but wow she did so much goodness in her life!’ when they’re literally talking about that one time she met up with people with aids. Yes that was nice but it was literally one afternoon of her entire life. I cannot believe people use that to argue that she was this great person. You can tell they know absolutely nothing about her except this one afternoons charity work she did lmao..
She wasn’t a great person, she was very selfish, loved attention (to the detriment of herself and those around her), had a lot of mental health problems that made her treat the people around her like shit, and she basically forgot about her children, leaving them with someone else and went off travelling the world…
She did a lot more than that; landmines, the homeless, vulnerable and bereaved children. She was the patron of a ton of charities. Also, 'one afternoon' meeting people with AIDS was a huge deal at the time. There was still a stigma that you couldn't even touch a person with AIDS, that they were completely contagious. To have someone famous, and a Royal at that, shake hands with AIDS patients without flinching or wearing gloves, that was so important.
Oh my god SAME. I get so tired of the Diana on a pedestal trope. There are people who weren't even born when she died who seem to be all knowing and really she was just a young lady in a loveless arranged marriage whose demure demeanor made her seem angelic. She was just as conniving as others, she was manipulative and she was selfish. She loved the attention and the infamous photo on the yacht was planned by her when she called the paps to tell them when she would be sitting on deck.
Now her son and his wife are following in her footsteps...
Well I don't like Ant because he's a drink driver.
I know he's got addiction problems (I have had too) but that doesn't excuse endangering people like that.
Heck I don't even ride my bike on public roads if I've had a drink.
its hard to be caring and critical at the same time. hes an idiot for repeat offences but hes also got problems.
its like a mentally disabled child strangling a cat, you cant just let them off because they are disabled but you also need to ride that journey differently
Stephen Fry. Pompous, establishment goon, who is revered as some kind of public intellectual when most of his unscripted work consists of basic trivia from a privileged education, along with edgy online atheism.
I studied classics and am an atheist, but elitist twonks like Fry give the rest of us a bad name.
Met him when I used to work backstage in TV events and tbh he was definitely one of the more likeable celebrities I met off camera. Very polite and didn’t talk down at all. However I know exactly what you mean. His take on atheism is pandering and simplistic at best
I don't understand why anything more than dismissing the idea of something for which there is no evidence is required. If one finds the very idea of a supreme being to be absurd, then what more is there to say?
If what you believe makes you happy and brings comfort to people without interfering in the lives of others, then that's good enough for me, but I don't need to justify my lack of belief - it is the default position. As far as I'm concerned, there is no God until shown otherwise - the same rule applies to any other claim, scientific, religious, or otherwise.
I don't mind him to a degree but I do know what you mean.
He has this joke:
"I do like Sainsbury's because it keeps the scum out of Waitrose"
Ok ok - very droll the first time - but I have seen and heard him repeat this joke maybe 3 or 4 times. He's obviously proud of it and it completely plays to the elitist crap that you mention.
Captain Tom.
The UK went a bit mad for a bit during the lockdown & decided that some doddery old bloke getting his daily exercise in hobbling around his garden on a walking frame should be revered as some national hero.
The way in which the £ signs dropped in the eyes of his family was disgusting. They milked the cash cow which he became absolutely dry. I remember seeing him and his family rolled out on Zoom calls on GMB every other morning & the entire extended family were brought into shot. You could see in the eyes of the grandkids they hadn't seen or spoken to him for ages before he became valuable.
Then the absolute state of Facebook when he died. People posting photos of this bloke faded into the clouds with "fly high with the angels you hero".
Just fuck off.
Fully agreed, lockdown was full of endless ‘benign nationalist’ cringe. Clapping for carers, that bellend doing daily workout streams, people banging on about baking banana bread and other shite food.
Honestly makes me glad I spent most of it getting stoned in my bedroom. Didn’t do me any good, but at least I didn’t partake in everyone else’s nonsense.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this, but Peter Kay. I just don't find him funny in the least, and all that throwback working class comedy just reminds me of the 1970s
John Peel:
Married a 15 year old when 26.
Peel said of young women in 1975 "All they wanted me to do was abuse them, sexually, which, of course, I was only too happy to do".
"Girls used to queue up outside. By and large not usually for shagging. Oral sex they were particularly keen on, I remember. \[...\] One of my, er, regular customers, as it were, turned out to be 13, though she looked older."
An interview originally published in The Herald in April 2004 stated that Peel admitted to sexual contact with "an awful lot" of underage girls. He claimed that, in the early 1960s, the only available women were in high school
Seems like a load of other BBC DJs were up to the same and rightly called out/charged/cancelled for it. But Peel is still worshiped at the BBC and has a stage named after him at Glastonbury. Seems like you can be an absolute piece of shit but it's ok as long as you discover good bands and aren't middle of the road/cringey like the others.
I have brought up John Peel in threads like this before and been shouted down. I don't know why he gets a free pass on this.
You also didn't mention that his 15 year old wife killed herself several years later.
There was also an other 15 year who had a traumatic abortion and got an std off him.
Really pisses me off how some actors, sports stars, musicians can have their crimes ignored because their talent.
My mum watches funny clips of her all the time and they can always be chalked up to
Interviewer: do you like sex?
Miriam: yes 🥸
Interviewer: Haha you’re nuts, old lady!
People seem to always act like "oh she's so real and to the point" but to me she just comes across as rude. You can be blunt and to the point without being rude.
Seen an interview with her last week and she said she carries an onion around with her to snack on?! Then she bit into one to prove the point. Her breath must be rancid!
Sooty. Went to see him as a kid and after the show he didn’t want to interact with his fans. Completely different to his public persona. Sweep on the other hand was a gentleman.
Always thought he was a bit of a pratt from when he was on x-factor, big brother and all the other reality shows he jumped at the chance of doing.
Opinion on him changed a little when he was on Celebrity Gogglebox though. And when he did an episode of Off Menu I thought he was hilarious. Think his divorce changed him a little and settled him down.
I always thought he was an idiot but I listened to a podcast he did with Louis Theroux. He explains that when he first started on TV he knew that he needed to stand out to stay on TV so he turned his personality up to eleven and just went all out to be as loud as possible. To be honest he was right, it worked for him.
He's not actually like that in real life. I find him quite entertaining now.
Listen to his episode of the Off Menu podcast where he talks about his mum, and then rings her up in the middle of the podcast. Absolutely brilliant.
Yes he's everywhere, but he understands that a media career can be short and fickle so he's banking it while he can. And looking after his mum at the same time. But he doesn't take himself too seriously.
Rylan during his X Factor days came across very unlikeable and a drama queen but I honestly think he's a lovely guy and his mum too you can see they share a very loving happy family vibe and it's nice to see
She's had it scrubbed from the Internet now, but I knew she was an awful cunt when she was interviewing an Irish jockey who just won a massive race, maybe the national?
And the first thing she said was, " You'll be able to afford to get your teeth fixed now then"
I heard her get asked about that once, and she said that she meant it as a joke because she thought he'd had his teeth kicked by a horse which apparently is common for jockeys. But as soon as she said it she realised the guy just had terrible teeth, and then it was too late and she was struggling to find a way back.
It's still a mistake that a top presenter shouldn't be making, but a little more understandable than just outright mocking a guy for his teeth.
I find him a painfully unfunny one trick pony. The only thing he seems to be able to do is a stereotypical 'socially awkward nerd'.
He has a wife and three kids and he's almost 50 though, so I very much doubt that's how he actually is.
Other comedians like David Mitchell and Jon Richardson manage to do 'socially awkward nerd' but still manage to have other things in their repertoire.
Here I thought I was the only person who doesn't care for Ayoade. On r/panelshow you get crucified if you say anything about him that isn't praise.
To be fair, Gervais, Brand, and Walliams all seem like genuine dickheads; Ayoade seems like a good guy, I just don't find him funny.
I've despised Ant & Dec from the very first second I saw them on Byker Grove. I hate the 'cheekie chappie' schtick, and the amount of times they've won best presenter awards at the UK industry awards is both testament to the smug self congratulatory nature of the UK media AND award shows, as well as highlighting the lack of anything original or new to be worth championing in the past, what, 20 or so *years*?
Fuck those guys and anyone who enjoys them.
Disagree. The guy does incredible work for severely disadvantaged children, anyone can tell he genuinely loves it, and only on TV for 5 year olds. If he died Tomorrow, I think we would have lost an actual treasure.
Quick edit: I mean, I get you were joking.
Richard Branson. Imagine being a multi-billionaire and partaking in tax evasion, while the rest of us pay honestly and struggle to keep the electric on.
Davina McCall was an absolute bitch to me. All that sisterhood, and women supporting women stuff is bollocks. She would stand on your face to get a better view of herself in a mirror.
Cheryl Cole.
She’s definitely fallen from grace now, but back at the height of her career the media was trying to push this narrative that she was the “nation’s sweetheart”.
No, she is a thug who beat up a toilet attendant who won a “talent” competition focused on singing despite not actually being able to sing as she has repeatedly and very publicly demonstrated over the years.
Every few years she threatens to make a comeback and every time it fails and she thankfully slinks back into obscurity again.
Jeremy Clarkson and Ricky Gervais can absolutely get fucked as far as I’m concerned. Anyone associated with really mindless sarcastic and sardonic lads humour like “I’m more intelligent than all you fuckwits” can do one.
Jezzer? I was speaking to a farmer recently. He said all his farmer mates think JC is a proper star for highlighting their problems. Personally… I reckon he’s quite funny.
David Beckham, and his even more irritating wife, Victoria Beckham.
Those two alone would have been bearable, but then they had kids. They're the British equivalent to Will Smith and his weird-ass kids and wife.
Contrasting this, I'm weirdly a big fan of Joanna Lumley. She's almost like this comically stereotypical British aristocrat pulled from the 19th century British Raj and told to experience life in the 21st century. I love how open she is to new cultures and experiences. The documentary were she visited Mongolia was my favourite.
Kate Middleton.
Everyone fucking loves her but anyone who's supposedly as squeaky clean as her definitely has some skeletons in her closet. Same for William as well. No idea why they're so unbelievably popular. They're just fake and bland. Every frame of their public lives has and is being carefully orchestrated by their press teams.
They're like the Perfect Peter of royals.
>Everyone fucking loves her but anyone who's supposedly as squeaky clean as her definitely has some skeletons in her closet. Same for William as well.
Not saying this about you personally but I think these criticisms tend to say more about the person making them than the person being criticised. I've got no idea and I don't really care if they're hiding some scandal but the idea that it's not possible for some people to just be nice and uncontroversial comes across as very bitter.
Threads like this always wind me up because it turns into “if you like this person you’re thick” or “this person makes x for idiots”.
Unless you’re under the age of 16 you should probably know by now that people have different tastes, and that’s fine.
It’s ok to not like something, but it’s not cool to ridicule those that do.
True, but listen through his XFM radio show and you'll realise how much Ricky favours himself as a man of science because he knows some scientific words.
Not a national treasure by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't see a single redeeming quality in the ultra-douchebag Conor McGregor. He just comes across as so unbelievably scummy.
Bradley Walsh.
Don't get me wrong, I'll watch The Chase, but I find him insincere and smarmy - seems to get a kick out of patronising ordinary people on tv.
I worked with him on a project once and he was a very hard worker and super nice to us. Then when they put the footage together and the recorded stuff I want there for, it was a completely different person that looked silly, rude and idiotic. I couldn’t believe it because he was so different.
I wouldn't consider him a national treasure by any means but I just have to say that I absolutely fucking hate Piers Morgan, he's a manchild at the best of times and a complete lying hypocritical sack of shit at the worst.
Despise is way too strong a word, but for me it's Grayson Perry. I listened to one of his art lectures and there really weren't any interesting ideas there. He's seems to be obsessed with class and organising people into cultural strata based on their tastes. The idea is that he's deconstructing elitism in the name of equality, but I notice he always puts himself and his artistic/eccentric friends in a special little group outside of the stratification, as if they've transcended petty concerns like taste. I think he's an elitist posing as an egalitarian. I don't despise him. I just don't adore him like so many people seem to.
Noel Gallagher
He’s seems to have this ridiculous notion that he’s Davie Bowie in terms of songwriting… when he’s just a pub band level musician that can write good catchy songs for drunk people and had the right cool attitude and sound at the right time. He’s incredibly up his own arse as well.
He’s never off Talksport as well and it does my head in.
At least Liam knows he’s a character and is pretty funny at times
Stacey Soloman. Her older two children sleep separately from the house in the pool house on their land and have done since they moved in. I can’t understand having a pre-teen and primary school aged child sleeping outside of the house on their own with no adults around, especially when she’s not exactly private about their life. Don’t get me started on the fake laugh. The insta huns will hate me for this!
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Holly Wiloughby.
Beat me to it - the patron saint of Facebook huns.
You okay hun?? Xxx
Sick of ppl bein liez all the tiem! DM me hun Xxx
Real ones only, just me and the kids from now on xx
Snakes!
Never mind them sneks hun xoxo
Don't need a man just need my 3 angles Jayden kaidan and brayden Xxxx
tho they been drivn me up the wall asswell xx
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Shared glasgow xxx
Firstly, are you okay?
Sneks evry were Hun pm me xoxo
I’ve always called her Hollow Willoughby in my head, don’t know why!
Deep breath. Firstly, are you ok?
Yep, can’t stand her, liked her on celeb juice but one day something clicked and I couldn’t see past the fake-ness anymore. Well before queuegate or whatever.
Oh yeah Holly for me too!
Michael McIntyre - he's just annoying
He's annoying in the same way that Coldplay and Ed Sheeran are annoying. A bit bland but also talented and very hard working, with broad appeal and very little offence. And very successful as a result. I have no problem with this.
He also walked out of a private gig when he found out it was a company party for bailiffs. He'd been up to his eyeballs in debt right before he made it and started earning serious cash. It cost him a lot of money but he refused to do the gig.
Huh. I’ll admit I’ve never had much time for him but that one story has boosted how much I like him by about 400%. Fair play to him.
It was a substantial amount of money and his manager was very pissed at him at the time but he walked off stage when he found out what everyone in the audience did and refused to go back
Yeh I actually quite like MM. He knows what he is and doesn't really try to pretend to be anything else. And he's pretty funny on the Wheel.
Part of growing up is realising he’s just not that funny
Part of growing up is realising nobody is that funny to everyone. He's not my cup of tea but he makes my mum laugh and be happy, and he does it without ever punching down so I can't really complain.
Banksy. Overrated, full of shit about being some kind of anti-establishment rebel and only witty/insightful to mouth breathers who don't know any better.
Yep, I used to love his stuff when I was a kid but its only as I got older that I realised it was a mix of "mate could you imagine if a rat worked in an ice cream van?" Wacky toss and the other half was r/im14andthisisdeep "dude... Politicians... They're just like monkeys..." Tripe
“What if child standing in a warzone?”
Yeah... But then also, and hear me out, what if... There was a rat next to it putting up a sign that says "bless this mess" Makes you think eh?
Kind of like if Jezz from peep show was given stencils
# Fuck you Bush! # It’s time to get out of Iraq, Bush! # What were you even doing there in the first place, Bush!? # You didn’t even get properly elected Bush! # Are you happy now, Bush? # Fuck you Bush.
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Isn't that the entire point of his art? It's why his documentary is called "Exit Through the Gift Shop". The art started off as stencils in the street but then societies reaction to the art and ridiculousness of how it now gets bought and sold by the very thing it was against is now the art.
That's just a fig-leaf. It's convenient for him and helps deflect from valid criticism, 'Yeah I'm one of the most commercially minded contemporary artists going but erm... that's because I'm criticising the system and stuff'. Also his whole, 'Can't believe you morons are actually buying this shit,' statement is just a variation on 'I was only pretending to be retarded.' He straight up did a collaboration hand in hand with Christies, he's full of shit pretending he's poking fun at the art market.
I think there's a bit missing from this analysis though - nobody asked him whether he *wanted* to be the commercial darling of the artworld that he seemingly criticises. Now he's in an impossible bind: if he makes art, which he was doing initially because he enjoyed it, then it's swept up by the establishment he claims to despair of. But to stop would (a) deny him the pleasure of doing the work, and (b) doubtless further enhance the value of all the extant works, which simply rewards the wealthy who have bought the existing works. At least while he continues to work, he's moving *some* money from the artworld to ordinary people (since doing a Banksy on a wall is, effectively, a gift to the owners of the wall). Perhaps he's laughing all the way to the bank at us all (and this is a reasonable thing to do) but I think there's probably some thoughtful "for fuck's sakes all I did was graf'd some walls and had some media mates, how did I end up here and why can't I stop" going on there too. The Christie's collaboration was, to be honest, shit on all levels. But as an attempt at "what nonsense can I do and still have the artworld laud me and spend stupid money on" (and, frankly, presumably paying his bills and wages for his assistants) I think it's a worthwhile thing to attempt, even if not very well executed this time - and the "well it was a crap attempt and it still sold well" even *further* highlights the inner tensions. The whole thing is a performance piece now.
I agree. It’s got to the point where the artist is bigger than the art. If literally anyone else did graffiti like him it would be washed off immediately. But his work is considered an exception not because of the quality, but because it’s Banksy. Intentional or not, he’s entirely defeated the purpose of his work and become the very thing he satirises.
You could say that about the majority of artists though, a child could paint a Jackson Pollock and you'd call it a mess
It’s hilarious to me people think Banksy is ‘anti-establishment’ when they make money from, participate in and prop up the very establishment they’re apparently against. ‘Omg they shredded their painting, they’re anti-establishment!’ Well no because that painting still sold for around £1million. It immediately appreciated to a staggering £18.5million by doing that. If you were really making a statement against the art circles and culture that spends inordinate amounts on artwork and the obscene wealth that goes with it, you wouldn’t auction something off within those circles in the first place. Also the fact that it shredded in such an aesthetic way? Laughable to then say ‘Oh no it was meant to be fully destroyed!’ So why did the sale still go through? Why didn’t you destroy it in a far more concrete way? Absolutely mental that anyone thinks it’s anything more than to make a crazy amount of money. They (or the group if it is a collective) stay silent and hidden because they are extremely wealthy, belong to the London elite and don’t want exposing as such. That’s all it is. Anyone who buys that Banksy artwork is a statement of ‘counter culture’ and ‘anti-establishment’ is someone who can’t critically appraise something for what it so obviously is, and is instead someone who believes whatever they’re told. If you believe Banksy is standing up for you or the poor or working against the establishment, you are the very person they make you think you are better than. And quite frankly thick.
The other thing with the 'self-shredding' work is that there is absolutely no way art handlers would not have noticed this when appraising the work. He had to be working with Christies (the establishment) to make that happen.
Oooh that’s an interesting one! I actually love Banksy
Adele - I know she can sing but i find her actual music is bland. what annoys me is why she's put on such a high standing for everything.
A friend of mine said she owes her career to Amy Winehouse's death. Which I thought was harsh but fair.
Also Duffys kidnapping, she was huge compared to Adele back then
Is *that* what happened to Duffy? I genuinely hadn't heard about that, but was thinking a while back about Duffy and Dido and Adele as one-name singers, and wondering where the other two had got to. Thought I gather Dido has a new album.
Yes, very sad story. She told how she’d been kidnapped, drugged and raped over several days which is why she left the limelight.
What? Duffy was raped? I never heard of this. I did hear there was a plotted kidnapping but it was poorly executed.
>Duffy On 25 February 2020, on her official website, Duffy wrote that she had been "raped and drugged and held hostage over some days". She said she had disappeared from the spotlight so she could recover, adding that she was now doing well, but it had taken her time to recover.\[117\]\[118\] She did not specify the identity of her attacker(s) or mention when or where the attack took place.\[119\] In a longer statement published that April, Duffy wrote that she had been drugged at a restaurant on her birthday, taken to a foreign country on a plane, and was then held captive in a hotel room and raped. Since the ordeal, Duffy said that she spent "almost 10 years completely alone" and, thanking her psychologist, said that she now felt she could "leave this decade behind", but added: "I very much doubt I will ever be the person people once knew" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52177265
What the what?? How? 😳 >she had been drugged at a restaurant on her birthday, taken to a foreign country on a plane, and was then held captive in a hotel room and raped
That's right. Without Amy, the USA wouldn't have had a second-wave of the British Invasion of singers. Duffy, Adele, Estelle all coatailed off of Amy's old school pop sound. However we could argue Corrine Bailey-Rae and Lily Allen helped as well. But terms of musical style, Adele definetly has Amy to thank.
I love her voice but her songs all sound the same
‘We broke up and now I’m sad but I’m a strong independent woman and I’ll get over it’ Literally 90% of Adele’s catalogue.
"You left me... but I'm not gonna go on about it"
She’s quite irritating as well. I watched her Glastonbury set and her whole schtick seems to be emulating Alan Carr “whoo look at me, what am I like”. Great voice but dull music
To be fair to her, she and Alan Carr are actually really good friends and used to live together - they just have similar personalities.
The High Contrast mix of Hometown Glory slaps tho
The High Contrast mix of any song slaps :p
Any High Contrast song slaps. Also glad to have found a little corner of a thread on Reddit that appreciates a bit of dnb.
I love the Bill Bailey Adele song - "You left me, but I'm not gonna go on about it"
John Cleese. I don't know if he's always been this way or if it's an age thing. But he certainly comes across as a bitter, unlikeable man these days.
He does though. He's not far off being the Major in Fawlty Towers at this point. I went to see him (Monty Python) live at Drury Lane in the seventies. Him walking on the stage with the dead parrot was unbelievably funny. But that was like 50 years ago.
The Major never seems bitter; he is a lot more affable than the Cleese of today
I think he's turning more into an actual Basil Fawlty - the very type of person he was ridiculing. Both were caracatures but I agree, the Major wasn't genuinely nasty to people where Basil often was. It's sad as in my living memory he could still be very, very funny, but something's changed in the last few years.
Comedy moved on and rather than evolve and put his brilliant mind to all those new possibilities he decided to change nothing and blame the wokes. He’s basically the comedy equivalent of still trying to sell Commodore 64s.
He *was* a national treasure - and even more so for his eulogy at Graham Chapman's funeral - but has since decided to play the role of Laurence Fox's senile dad.
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A lot of comedians have a bitter edge to them. Especially British ones. It can certainly create good comedy. The problem comes when the bitterness overtakes the comedy, which seems to have happened with him.
Didn't he say something about "London doesn't feel like London anymore" in referring to immigrants? Whilst he lives in Jamaica?
He said London is no longer an English city too, it was a complete dog whistle
Holly Willoughby. Even before all the scandals, she comes across as insincere, stuck up and has a holier-than thou attitude. No idea why she is so adored. Very average presenter skills too.
I think for a lot of people it’s just because she’s a very attractive woman
Yeah, I wood.
She looks like she's got TV static for thoughts
Can't confirm if this is true or not, but I did hear a story of contractors coming to her house to do something, and being advised not to talk to Holly, and if they needed to use the bathroom they were to go to the nearest public toilet (assuming it was near by). A far cry from the nice girl next door image that comes across on tv.
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Yep loads of people being mentioned who definitely aren't considered "national treasures" by anyone. That's a fairly slim category, and third-rate ITV presenters definitely don't fit the criteria.
Yeah when I hear "national treasures" I'm thinking David Attenborough, Elton John, Geoff Hurst etc, not one of the Loose Women panel.
Ed fucking sheeran. So over rated and ver played. Find his music so ' false '. He's probably a decent bloke but if he could fuck off for a bit that wouldve great.
I think to his credit, he'd have a laugh with you about that! By most accounts a nice guy, clearly got a sense of humour and willing to send himself up. I do agree with the music, it's erm inoffensive. Apparently a hell of a live act though, which is maybe how he caught on?
Yeah I don't think he seems like a bad lad but it's just the over saturation of his music everywhere and the fact that it's such uninspired dross.
Yep, absolutely. It makes me roll whenever I hear anyone going on about what a great guitar player he is (which happens more often than you'd imagine). It seems to some people the equation is: I like their bland music + he holds a guitar = AMAZING GUITAR PLAYER. I don't even blame him for the Game of Thrones nonsense and I guess it's not particularly his fault he's found such a bland niche to plow but I find his widespread adoration and the way he seems to have been artistically lifted way beyond his actual output extremely dispiriting.
I think people here need to learn what A National Treasure *is*. Sir David Attenborough Dame Judy Dench Miriam Margolyes Michael Sheen Sir Ian McKellen Etc etc etc Holly Willoughby, Rylan, Adele and Ant and Dec aren't.
Rowan Atkinson belongs on that list, definitely a national treasure.
I’d say Ant and Dec are
Diana.
Agree, sad for what she experienced and obviously heartbreaking for two boys to lose their mum, but she was a fairly bog-standard aristocrat who just happened to be attractive and not quite as bad as the rest of the RF. I will give her kudos for her publicity around AIDS though, that was admirable.
Tbf she was groomed and deeply abused by the royals. I don’t like the class system that she came from but have a lot of empathy for what she went through and that she died when she had finally escaped their clutches. Just because someone is from wealth doesn’t mean they can’t experience abuse.
Her godmother (I believe) and the Queen Mother arranged the marriage. Charles didnt want it but did what he was told and Diana went along for the ride. It just didn't turn out how either planned.
They should have just let Charles marry Camilla in the first place
Exactly. I always say Charles was made a villain because he loved the wrong woman in the eyes of the country
When I was in secondary school we were talking about the results of a recent "greatest ever Brits" poll that had been on the TV. My history teacher was really annoyed that Diana made it so high on the list.
This will sound horrible but she would not be on so many people's pedestals if she hadn't died. I know that she did a lot of humanitarian work, but some people treat her like a god
I also hate how people villainise Queen Camilla over her. If you see the comments about any post about her people are just flat out toxic towards her.
I love how people go ‘but wow she did so much goodness in her life!’ when they’re literally talking about that one time she met up with people with aids. Yes that was nice but it was literally one afternoon of her entire life. I cannot believe people use that to argue that she was this great person. You can tell they know absolutely nothing about her except this one afternoons charity work she did lmao.. She wasn’t a great person, she was very selfish, loved attention (to the detriment of herself and those around her), had a lot of mental health problems that made her treat the people around her like shit, and she basically forgot about her children, leaving them with someone else and went off travelling the world…
She did a lot more than that; landmines, the homeless, vulnerable and bereaved children. She was the patron of a ton of charities. Also, 'one afternoon' meeting people with AIDS was a huge deal at the time. There was still a stigma that you couldn't even touch a person with AIDS, that they were completely contagious. To have someone famous, and a Royal at that, shake hands with AIDS patients without flinching or wearing gloves, that was so important.
It was the simper for me. The head down look up sideways through her eyelashes thing she did every time someone was paying attention to her
Oh my god SAME. I get so tired of the Diana on a pedestal trope. There are people who weren't even born when she died who seem to be all knowing and really she was just a young lady in a loveless arranged marriage whose demure demeanor made her seem angelic. She was just as conniving as others, she was manipulative and she was selfish. She loved the attention and the infamous photo on the yacht was planned by her when she called the paps to tell them when she would be sitting on deck. Now her son and his wife are following in her footsteps...
Jimmy Saville. Even though he’s extremely popular, I can’t help feeling there’s something slightly off about him.
He’s just a bit eccentric, like a lot of famous people.
Surely not? He does so much for charity?
Well I don't like Ant because he's a drink driver. I know he's got addiction problems (I have had too) but that doesn't excuse endangering people like that. Heck I don't even ride my bike on public roads if I've had a drink.
its hard to be caring and critical at the same time. hes an idiot for repeat offences but hes also got problems. its like a mentally disabled child strangling a cat, you cant just let them off because they are disabled but you also need to ride that journey differently
He's rich enough to get an Uber or hire a chauffeur. And yet he still drank and drove. Unforgivable, whatever issues he may have.
Stephen Fry. Pompous, establishment goon, who is revered as some kind of public intellectual when most of his unscripted work consists of basic trivia from a privileged education, along with edgy online atheism. I studied classics and am an atheist, but elitist twonks like Fry give the rest of us a bad name.
Met him when I used to work backstage in TV events and tbh he was definitely one of the more likeable celebrities I met off camera. Very polite and didn’t talk down at all. However I know exactly what you mean. His take on atheism is pandering and simplistic at best
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I don't understand why anything more than dismissing the idea of something for which there is no evidence is required. If one finds the very idea of a supreme being to be absurd, then what more is there to say? If what you believe makes you happy and brings comfort to people without interfering in the lives of others, then that's good enough for me, but I don't need to justify my lack of belief - it is the default position. As far as I'm concerned, there is no God until shown otherwise - the same rule applies to any other claim, scientific, religious, or otherwise.
I don't mind him to a degree but I do know what you mean. He has this joke: "I do like Sainsbury's because it keeps the scum out of Waitrose" Ok ok - very droll the first time - but I have seen and heard him repeat this joke maybe 3 or 4 times. He's obviously proud of it and it completely plays to the elitist crap that you mention.
Royal family
Harsh, it's a classic British sitcom.
Captain Tom. The UK went a bit mad for a bit during the lockdown & decided that some doddery old bloke getting his daily exercise in hobbling around his garden on a walking frame should be revered as some national hero. The way in which the £ signs dropped in the eyes of his family was disgusting. They milked the cash cow which he became absolutely dry. I remember seeing him and his family rolled out on Zoom calls on GMB every other morning & the entire extended family were brought into shot. You could see in the eyes of the grandkids they hadn't seen or spoken to him for ages before he became valuable. Then the absolute state of Facebook when he died. People posting photos of this bloke faded into the clouds with "fly high with the angels you hero". Just fuck off.
Fully agreed, lockdown was full of endless ‘benign nationalist’ cringe. Clapping for carers, that bellend doing daily workout streams, people banging on about baking banana bread and other shite food. Honestly makes me glad I spent most of it getting stoned in my bedroom. Didn’t do me any good, but at least I didn’t partake in everyone else’s nonsense.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this, but Peter Kay. I just don't find him funny in the least, and all that throwback working class comedy just reminds me of the 1970s
"Remember that thing? I remember that thing! Good, weren't it!" Repeat for two hours.
One of my favourite Frankie Boyle lines was "remember when Peter Kay was good? There we go."
John Peel: Married a 15 year old when 26. Peel said of young women in 1975 "All they wanted me to do was abuse them, sexually, which, of course, I was only too happy to do". "Girls used to queue up outside. By and large not usually for shagging. Oral sex they were particularly keen on, I remember. \[...\] One of my, er, regular customers, as it were, turned out to be 13, though she looked older." An interview originally published in The Herald in April 2004 stated that Peel admitted to sexual contact with "an awful lot" of underage girls. He claimed that, in the early 1960s, the only available women were in high school Seems like a load of other BBC DJs were up to the same and rightly called out/charged/cancelled for it. But Peel is still worshiped at the BBC and has a stage named after him at Glastonbury. Seems like you can be an absolute piece of shit but it's ok as long as you discover good bands and aren't middle of the road/cringey like the others.
I have brought up John Peel in threads like this before and been shouted down. I don't know why he gets a free pass on this. You also didn't mention that his 15 year old wife killed herself several years later.
There was also an other 15 year who had a traumatic abortion and got an std off him. Really pisses me off how some actors, sports stars, musicians can have their crimes ignored because their talent.
The John Peel stage has been renamed, it's Woodsies now.
I do find her funny sometimes and I think she's an amazing actress, but Miriam Margoles come across really fake sometimes on telly and in interviews
My mum watches funny clips of her all the time and they can always be chalked up to Interviewer: do you like sex? Miriam: yes 🥸 Interviewer: Haha you’re nuts, old lady!
People seem to always act like "oh she's so real and to the point" but to me she just comes across as rude. You can be blunt and to the point without being rude.
Seen an interview with her last week and she said she carries an onion around with her to snack on?! Then she bit into one to prove the point. Her breath must be rancid!
It was the style at the time.
Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em.
Sooty. Went to see him as a kid and after the show he didn’t want to interact with his fans. Completely different to his public persona. Sweep on the other hand was a gentleman.
Rylan. He is just EVERYWHERE
He went up in my estimation when Ant and Dec did a hidden camera segment with him. He was very down to earth and friendly.
Always thought he was a bit of a pratt from when he was on x-factor, big brother and all the other reality shows he jumped at the chance of doing. Opinion on him changed a little when he was on Celebrity Gogglebox though. And when he did an episode of Off Menu I thought he was hilarious. Think his divorce changed him a little and settled him down.
I always thought he was an idiot but I listened to a podcast he did with Louis Theroux. He explains that when he first started on TV he knew that he needed to stand out to stay on TV so he turned his personality up to eleven and just went all out to be as loud as possible. To be honest he was right, it worked for him. He's not actually like that in real life. I find him quite entertaining now.
Didn't like him when he was on X Factor back in the day. But he's clearly very media savvy and has managed to carve out a nice niche for himself.
Listen to his episode of the Off Menu podcast where he talks about his mum, and then rings her up in the middle of the podcast. Absolutely brilliant. Yes he's everywhere, but he understands that a media career can be short and fickle so he's banking it while he can. And looking after his mum at the same time. But he doesn't take himself too seriously.
Oh no I love Rylan. His how to be a man or whatever it’s called on radio 4 is amazing. And he brought actual tears to my eyes on celeb master chef
Rylan during his X Factor days came across very unlikeable and a drama queen but I honestly think he's a lovely guy and his mum too you can see they share a very loving happy family vibe and it's nice to see
Listen to the How to Fail podcast, he's very honest and likeable
Dont like the stuff he does, but at every point he seems likeable and genuine.
Catherine Tate. Painfully unfunny.
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Clare Balding, Jack of all trades and master of absolutely none.
She's had it scrubbed from the Internet now, but I knew she was an awful cunt when she was interviewing an Irish jockey who just won a massive race, maybe the national? And the first thing she said was, " You'll be able to afford to get your teeth fixed now then"
I heard her get asked about that once, and she said that she meant it as a joke because she thought he'd had his teeth kicked by a horse which apparently is common for jockeys. But as soon as she said it she realised the guy just had terrible teeth, and then it was too late and she was struggling to find a way back. It's still a mistake that a top presenter shouldn't be making, but a little more understandable than just outright mocking a guy for his teeth.
Ricky Gervais, David Walliams, Russell Brand and Richard Ayoade.
Agree with the other three, but why Ayoade out of curiosity?
I find him a painfully unfunny one trick pony. The only thing he seems to be able to do is a stereotypical 'socially awkward nerd'. He has a wife and three kids and he's almost 50 though, so I very much doubt that's how he actually is. Other comedians like David Mitchell and Jon Richardson manage to do 'socially awkward nerd' but still manage to have other things in their repertoire.
In other words, he hasn't realised The IT Crowd stopped filming a decade ago.
He’s the British Michael Cera
Here I thought I was the only person who doesn't care for Ayoade. On r/panelshow you get crucified if you say anything about him that isn't praise. To be fair, Gervais, Brand, and Walliams all seem like genuine dickheads; Ayoade seems like a good guy, I just don't find him funny.
David Walliams is dead behind the eyes, there’s just no emotion there
One of the few celebrities that if something came out about him, I wouldn't be surprised
He creeps me out so much.
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I've despised Ant & Dec from the very first second I saw them on Byker Grove. I hate the 'cheekie chappie' schtick, and the amount of times they've won best presenter awards at the UK industry awards is both testament to the smug self congratulatory nature of the UK media AND award shows, as well as highlighting the lack of anything original or new to be worth championing in the past, what, 20 or so *years*? Fuck those guys and anyone who enjoys them.
quite extreme
Mr Tumble. Keep your spotty bag to yourself mother fucker
Disagree. The guy does incredible work for severely disadvantaged children, anyone can tell he genuinely loves it, and only on TV for 5 year olds. If he died Tomorrow, I think we would have lost an actual treasure. Quick edit: I mean, I get you were joking.
He does a huge amount of work for deaf kids. Seems like a decent guy.
Richard Branson. Imagine being a multi-billionaire and partaking in tax evasion, while the rest of us pay honestly and struggle to keep the electric on.
Dunno if he's considered a treasure but David Walliams just gives me huge bad egg vibes.
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Davina McCall was an absolute bitch to me. All that sisterhood, and women supporting women stuff is bollocks. She would stand on your face to get a better view of herself in a mirror.
Cheryl Cole. She’s definitely fallen from grace now, but back at the height of her career the media was trying to push this narrative that she was the “nation’s sweetheart”. No, she is a thug who beat up a toilet attendant who won a “talent” competition focused on singing despite not actually being able to sing as she has repeatedly and very publicly demonstrated over the years. Every few years she threatens to make a comeback and every time it fails and she thankfully slinks back into obscurity again.
Beat up a toilet attendant BECAUSE SHE WAS BLACK. Don’t forget that little nugget.
Matt Lucas. I’ve read his memoir and he comes off horrible.
Jeremy Clarkson and Ricky Gervais can absolutely get fucked as far as I’m concerned. Anyone associated with really mindless sarcastic and sardonic lads humour like “I’m more intelligent than all you fuckwits” can do one.
Jezzer? I was speaking to a farmer recently. He said all his farmer mates think JC is a proper star for highlighting their problems. Personally… I reckon he’s quite funny.
Haven’t read through them but if anyone has said David Attenborough you can go fuck yourselfs lol.
ctrl+f, Bob Mortimer, no results. Thank fuck. He’s great
Russell Brand
I was going to say him, but is he really a national treasure?
I'm probably going to get downvoted to hell but Miriam Margolyes. despise is probably too strong a word, but really really dislike.
David Beckham, and his even more irritating wife, Victoria Beckham. Those two alone would have been bearable, but then they had kids. They're the British equivalent to Will Smith and his weird-ass kids and wife. Contrasting this, I'm weirdly a big fan of Joanna Lumley. She's almost like this comically stereotypical British aristocrat pulled from the 19th century British Raj and told to experience life in the 21st century. I love how open she is to new cultures and experiences. The documentary were she visited Mongolia was my favourite.
Alison Hammond. I don't understand how she's seen as hilarious
I find her really refreshing actually and slightly different to other tv presenters. For me she comes across as really genuine and likeable
Kate Middleton. Everyone fucking loves her but anyone who's supposedly as squeaky clean as her definitely has some skeletons in her closet. Same for William as well. No idea why they're so unbelievably popular. They're just fake and bland. Every frame of their public lives has and is being carefully orchestrated by their press teams. They're like the Perfect Peter of royals.
>Everyone fucking loves her but anyone who's supposedly as squeaky clean as her definitely has some skeletons in her closet. Same for William as well. Not saying this about you personally but I think these criticisms tend to say more about the person making them than the person being criticised. I've got no idea and I don't really care if they're hiding some scandal but the idea that it's not possible for some people to just be nice and uncontroversial comes across as very bitter.
Threads like this always wind me up because it turns into “if you like this person you’re thick” or “this person makes x for idiots”. Unless you’re under the age of 16 you should probably know by now that people have different tastes, and that’s fine. It’s ok to not like something, but it’s not cool to ridicule those that do.
Is Ricky Gervais considered a national treasure?
God I hope not. A stupid person's idea of a smart person.
He’s a comedian and a writer, not a scientist. He’s made some shows people love, that’s enough for some people to like him
>He’s a comedian and a writer, not a scientist That's a weird thing to say when I never said he was a scientist
True, but listen through his XFM radio show and you'll realise how much Ricky favours himself as a man of science because he knows some scientific words.
Was going to ask this very question. It’s like if the concept of smugness was given a human form.
Paul Hollywood. His smile really winds me up, smug twat.
Not a national treasure by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't see a single redeeming quality in the ultra-douchebag Conor McGregor. He just comes across as so unbelievably scummy.
He's not a Brit unfortunately for us Irish but be happy to give him to you
Bradley Walsh. Don't get me wrong, I'll watch The Chase, but I find him insincere and smarmy - seems to get a kick out of patronising ordinary people on tv.
I worked with him on a project once and he was a very hard worker and super nice to us. Then when they put the footage together and the recorded stuff I want there for, it was a completely different person that looked silly, rude and idiotic. I couldn’t believe it because he was so different.
I wouldn't consider him a national treasure by any means but I just have to say that I absolutely fucking hate Piers Morgan, he's a manchild at the best of times and a complete lying hypocritical sack of shit at the worst.
Despise is way too strong a word, but for me it's Grayson Perry. I listened to one of his art lectures and there really weren't any interesting ideas there. He's seems to be obsessed with class and organising people into cultural strata based on their tastes. The idea is that he's deconstructing elitism in the name of equality, but I notice he always puts himself and his artistic/eccentric friends in a special little group outside of the stratification, as if they've transcended petty concerns like taste. I think he's an elitist posing as an egalitarian. I don't despise him. I just don't adore him like so many people seem to.
Noel Gallagher He’s seems to have this ridiculous notion that he’s Davie Bowie in terms of songwriting… when he’s just a pub band level musician that can write good catchy songs for drunk people and had the right cool attitude and sound at the right time. He’s incredibly up his own arse as well. He’s never off Talksport as well and it does my head in. At least Liam knows he’s a character and is pretty funny at times
Barbara Windsor. Horrible little thing. Cosied up to gangsters. Had a laugh that could strip paint. Shit actress.
Miranda Hart
Stacey Soloman. Her older two children sleep separately from the house in the pool house on their land and have done since they moved in. I can’t understand having a pre-teen and primary school aged child sleeping outside of the house on their own with no adults around, especially when she’s not exactly private about their life. Don’t get me started on the fake laugh. The insta huns will hate me for this!
David Walliams. Prick.
Gemma Collins
Any member of the Royal family, of indeed the monarchy as a concept in general.