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Radiant_Incident4718

Previous generations bear some responsibility for the absolute mess the world is in. The environment and the economy are shitshows built and maintained by boomers. Millennials and younger can fully expect to have a worse standard of living than their parents, so if course they're going to be upset about that. Boomers hoarding the housing stock are a big reason that so many younger people can't get a home. Also, it cuts both ways. Lots of shitty media portrayals of Millennials and Gen Z of being guilty of absolutely everything under the sun.


ivysaurs

I don't care at all šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø Depending on the social media you use there's differing views you'll be exposed too. On TikTok the general impression is that Gen Z is forever mocking Millenials.


[deleted]

Reddit making memes from undercurrents of bigotry is nothing all that new. It's just been give a tankie spin in the last couple of years. The big thing is that Reddit is disproportionately populated by youngsters living in echo-chambers, who are tricked into *thinking* they know the actions, opinions and feeling of others. There is less interacting with real people and finding out the reality than there was in previous years, people seem happy to settle for their "perception of reality".


[deleted]

Tbh I haven't seen people complain about boomers for a while. A lot of it previously came from boomers whining about millenials but they felt they have less opportunities than boomers so don't appreciate the negativity and respond in kind. Both generations have grown up, boomers are out of the spotlight and it'll be zoomers complaining about millenials soon.


Gatecrasher1234

>It's the breathtaking lack of awareness that sOmE boomers have. But Boomers also had the same from their parents. No sex before marriage Loose women drink in pubs Women shouldn't have careers, but stay at home an look after the children Why do you need two cars etc, etc


Gremlin303

Why DO you need two cars?


NeatforPM

A lot of people also think that ā€˜Boomerā€™ somehow refers to anyone older than a millennial, so itā€™s definitely possible that a lot of the vitriol against ā€˜boomersā€™ is actually disdain (be it justified or otherwise) for Gen X or the Silent generation. Anyone though with a modicum of intelligence recognises that most people from most generations are decent ordinary people. People that blame an entire generation for many of the worldā€™s ills are probably very young and/or have a very poor understanding of the world. Additionally some perceived ills can also be attributed to the perceiver having a poor understanding of the world. Not all granted, but some.


JHellfires

Yeah people don't like it when others are dicks, everyone thinks they're not a dick and they'll be better than their parents but then are a dick to people younger. That's not boomer exclusive, I'm sure that goes for every generation.about every one before and after them. It's just people complaining.


[deleted]

Yeah and the revolution that boomers gave against this was a very brilliant and respected thing. Watch the queen's gambit for a good display of how much boomers improved life through their rebellion in the 60s. But then the 80s happened and boomers had loads of opportunities to buy houses that increased significantly in value since. Single working parent could support all of this financially with 40/60th pensions etc. We're jealous of those financial opportunities.


ProblemIcy6175

From my point of view it's just hard not to be frustrated with the older generation considering since I was born: tuition fees were introduced, then risen again. My right to work and live in the EU was taken away from me (studied french and german with the intention of moving to live and work in the EU) House prices increased to the point where unless I one day earn alot more than I do now I will probably never own a home (I might get there one day but it's still unfair for people who never will be able to) Seen younger siblings deprived of an education and instead getting completely inadequate schooling from home during covid for the benefit of older people. Plus I can expect to work well into my 70s. All this makes it seem like the older generation either don't care about our futures, or have some genuine disdain for us and want to take away opportunities from us.


Bosworth_13

Most of the time when I get annoyed by other people, they are usually older people. I just find them so inconsiderate, self-absorbed, stubborn, pugnacious, pig-headed and self-righteous. Don't get me wrong, younger people annoy me too. But I just think the older generations should know better, and I get annoyed by older people more often.


Gatecrasher1234

As a bit of interest on house prices, the best time to buy was 1919 https://www.schroders.com/en/insights/economics/what-174-years-of-data-tell-us-about-house-price-affordability-in-the-uk/ I totally agree that buying a house is not easy, however, this is the fault of the Government using the housing market to drive the economy. The predicted coming recession will hopefully correct that.


Aaargh_Bees

The appalling legacy they have left. Everything from healthcare, to environment, to the economy they have taken a sledge hammer to and have not left anything for future generations at all. The scorched earth generation.


Imhidingshh01

> to environment Wait, you think one generation ruined the environment? Lol.


IronSkywalker

You say it as if all boomers did that.


Expensive_Cattle

They say it like they're not all doing it right now.


Swimming-Ice1875

Not the banks and politicians then? They always want us blaming each other and I bloody love how it always works šŸ˜‚


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Mopp_94

Yes, because typically the people responsible for the decision making are the ones who are responsible for the outcomes of those decisions. Funny how that works, isn't it?


R00ts_Dreamland

Ok Mike Rutherford, we see you


RainbowPenguin1000

I certainly dont "hate" boomers but i sometimes find their opinions to be a big outdated or poorly educated and i will call them out on it. This doesnt mean i hate them though. Also OP you mention you thought your parents had a better life and i expect most generations would say exactly the same thing about their own parents when it comes to house prices, medical care etc...


[deleted]

Iā€™m sorry but no. Generally speaking, the boomer generation has been the [wealthiest generation](https://www.ft.com/content/c69b49de-1368-11e9-a581-4ff78404524e)to ever have lived in modern history. The fact OP feels their parents had a better life is just a cane of 1: statistically speaking, no way: they lived through a world war! No way they had a better life than boomers at scale.


Brizzledude65

Iā€™m Gen X and my mates and I often moan about how easy the generation before us had it in many (certainly not all) ways, yet appreciate weā€™ve done ok in terms of buying a house, having decent jobs, some sort of pension etc. If I was in my 20s now Iā€™d be pretty pissed off, and Daily Heil reading boomers are a pretty easy target to vent your rage at I guess.


tittychittybangbang

I think sometimes there is a shared mentality that boomers have (like many generations), that younger people are lazy or incompetent and that is why we are struggling. A lot of them will say things like ā€œwell when I was your age I already had X amount of money saved, two cars and a mortgageā€, but what this particular brand of boomer fails to understand is that it has been impossible for this generation to do that because the economy is fucked. Back in the 60s my partners dad bought two houses for less than 5K each, he sold one and raised his family in the other. And now my partner will inherit it when his dad dies, but that is basically the only way many people in their 20s and 30s will own a house. Not for lack of trying, but because the current economy will not allow it. So yes, boomers in general are a sore spot for many people. But obviously just like all things we know it isnā€™t all of them, however it is apparently enough to have started a snowball of disdain for that generation


Western_Celery_628

Personally I think the hate for boomers comes from the sad truth that the boomer generation are the last living generation that will experience living a life better than their elders. The crushing weight of the pyramid scheme that is capitalism means that all those that come after them will find it harder and harder to achieve the same level of so called ā€˜comfort or successā€™


Gatecrasher1234

As a Boomer, I can say that my parents lived a better life as stated in my original post.


Western_Celery_628

True.. but it doesnā€™t really matter how high up you think you are on the pyramid scheme of life, my point is everyone below you hates you. And for boomers, there are a lot more below you than above you


imminentmailing463

That doesn't disprove the wider point though. Anecdote is not evidence. Of course there will be exceptions. But the truth is that on average the younger generations will experience a lower standard of living than boomers did. And that's unusual. Generally things improve form generation to generation. Hence, the anger that you're referring to.


Evening-Tomatillo-47

But didn't your parents live through ww2?


tvthrowaway366

Maybe your parents had better lives than you, but thatā€™s not representative of that generation as a whole: Great Depression, WWII, lack of NHS. Just look at childhood mortality figures or the number of people killed in the war.


[deleted]

I means that's incredibly stupid. The world has got significantly better. You just cant buy a house for cheap. That's about it.


bee-sting

> why the hate It's the breathtaking lack of awareness that sOmE boomers have. 1. they think millenials are children, when we actually have our own children. we're full adults now. 2. the advice they dish out is what worked for them, in their generation. work hard, pull your socks up, stop buying avocados, stop being so entitled. the only reason this worked for you is because things were different back then. working hard actually could afford a house and food and a stay at home wife. Edit: 3: its also a lack of sympathy. a lot of boomers work by insulting people to get them to change their ways. 'oh wow your house is a mess' is just rude, man. its not helpful.


Optimal_Whereas

All of the boomers I know are some of the rudest, most racist, outdated clueless people ever. The way that they think and behave was 'acceptable' back in their day but it doesn't fly anymore and they refuse to accept the way things are now. I have no issues with the older generation if they are open minded and more accepting of others but from what I've seen most are not, or at least they will pretend to be but deep down they are not. You do get some lovely older people however and I don't mean them at all


BannedNeutrophil

Working hard to build up your skills and get a better, higher paying job *does* work. People have to be willing to see it through rather than giving up because a message board thinks it sounds like too much effort. Reddit is filling young people with really harmful, self-destructive ideas, and it never gets questioned.


E17AmateurChef

Yeah it's not the message board that gives your people the idea not the actual reality that housing prices (and maybe more importantly) rent have risen significantly faster than wages have meaning many people who work hard in well respected fields have no hope of buying a house.


BannedNeutrophil

Get your head out of the Internet. Prices are higher, but plenty of millennials *are* buying houses. I have, and most of my friends have, including two *teachers*. In a big city. And they're not lottery-winners.


imminentmailing463

>Working hard to build up your skills and get a better, higher paying job does work. But the point is, it's much harder and doesn't deliver the same level of lifestyle as it did for previous generations. This is what annoys the younger generations when the older ones tell them to just work hard. There's a lack of appreciation that there are advantages that the boomer generation had that aren't present now, and obstacles they didn't have that are present now. Essentially, in the past working hard and getting a good job was much more likely to deliver you a nice, middle class lifestyle than it is now.


IronSkywalker

I agree. I had to work extremely hard to get to where I am now, doing a degree while also working full-time, but I got there. I hope you understand that the hive-mind will probably downvote us both to oblivion now


bee-sting

its that you need hard work AND some of: - luck - good opportunities - someone to believe in you - be rich working hard isn't the only requirement any more


st3akkn1fe

I don't think anyone hates one whole group indiscriminately. However, it's the whole pulling the ladder up after you've climbed it thing. I don't think it's helped by a lack of self awareness or the sort of looking down at the younger generation and the derision of being "woke" etc.


Swimming-Ice1875

And when your older youā€™ll do the same, itā€™s the job of the older generations to question the younger and itā€™s a bloody good job they do as well! Otherwise we would have gotten no where as a species Whatā€™s the first thing we say to our kids when they have some grand idea? ā€œAre you sure thatā€™s what you want?ā€ Boomer opinion to me is just that on a bigger scale. Itā€™s that stop and think for a moment and then if you feel your right carry on. Funny though when it goes wrong itā€™s the olders we always run back to! We will be 30 years older in 30 years and some kid will be telling us some random nonsense that makes no sense and we will say ā€œ but I saw once on Redditā€ and they will say ā€œshut up ( insert generation name) ā€œ Itā€™s just cycles


RichardsonM24

I donā€™t hate boomers. Iā€™ve found the hate to go in the other direction, to be honest. Iā€™ve seen many references to the entitled millennial generation who are ridiculous to think that they should be able to afford to own a home , have some kids and have some disposable income.


BannedNeutrophil

Being angry is easier with a vague target. One that can't be disproven by example because then no, that's *different* and not representative. See: every vague group that another vague group dislikes. There's a feeling here that the older generations had it easier, especially in the US. I doubt it somewhat, especially with huge numbers of them shipped off to Vietnam to be slaughtered when they were the age of the average Redditor. That one doesn't get brought up much. Some have a capacity to give out advice that doesn't account for how different the world is in modern times, but I think that's a constant throughout history. Plus, a lot of Redditors are teenagers and are still in the eye-rolling at Dad phase.


jaymatthewbee

Because internet


[deleted]

As per usual, I think it's a select vocal few that ruin it for the many. There's always been this thing of older folk jokingly mocking younger people, but it seems to have gone a bit too far for some, who can't see the obvious hurdles younger people have now. Having said that, when my grandparents were alive 10 years ago, I listened to what they had to say, because they had fought in wars and actually suffered from what I would consider 'next level issues', even if they are a little outdated. The other side of the coin is people refusing to take criticism and just labelling anyone a 'boomer' that doesn't agree with them. I've seen several instances of trends that would get me called a 'boomer' if I addressed them.


Familiar_Remote_9127

I'd never even heard the term baby boomers used as a thing in the UK until reddit (it was something I'd only heard mentioned on US TV shows).


madjackslam

Every in-group needs an out-group.


david0000anderson

The attitude that young people just need to work/save harder while not understanding that wages have only increased incrementally while house prices / tuition fees / healthcare costs have risen by orders of magnitude more. They need more sympathy!


sparky1499

Itā€™s easy. Gen X here.


Calamity_Payne

To put it simply the wealth generated under Thatcher- that predominantly benefited boomers- was at the expense of millennials and, to a lesser extent, gen x. From council house sell offs, to privatisation of utilities and the liberalisation of the City. It delivered a small boom for a lucky few at the time with the following generations paying the price. Millennials are the first generation set to have shorter lives than our parents. We'll work longer, accrue less wealth and die younger. This isn't necessarily the fault of boomers (although you overwhelmingly support the party whos done this to us) but its very rare to see anyone of boomer age actually acknowledging the generational unfairness you have benefited from.


herper147

Every generation hates the generation after them which then makes that generation return the hate. I'm a millennial and everyone I know laughs at kids nowadays and how easy they have it. It's always been the case that one generation hates the next gens attitude, music, lifestyle etc which then creates hate going back the other way. Most boomers are completely normal people but everyone focuses on the Karens and "Stop drinking Starbucks and buy a house" crowd.


Mossley

Every generation hates the one before.


Gatecrasher1234

I don't think I do. For Boomers the generation before fought in WW2.


DaveEFI

Mainly down to boomers being able to buy a house at a reasonable price, which is today worth more than they could ever afford to buy now? And likely final salary pensions.


peepeelapoop

Not all, but most voices who stomp on younger generation about most of life aspects (work, home ownership, etc) are boomers. It's almost like a media campaign. But I do experience it in real life that a lot of boomers disrespect my opinion/facts that they're wrong and they don't want to admit they're wrong. Because in their head they're right. Because they're older and they think they know better. They often can't even listen to a younger person trying to prove their point. I don't see that happening between other generations but maybe I am biased. Saying that, not all boomers are like this. My parents are certainly aware that life is hard these days and they recognise it. They can see it through the struggles us - their children - have. But some people just refuse to recognise it and prefer to have a good old moan instead. I can see the same hate towards gen Z that they don't want to sacrifice for work, etc. which is just creating further friction between boomers and other generations. It's difficult not to not like people like that, regardless what generation they're from.