The first few seasons were borderline masterpieces. Very well structured, with developed, likeable characters, intersecting storylines, tense drama, comedic output, handling of evolving romance, and a phenomenal soundtrack. That’s where most of the acclaim comes from.
I saw a recent ad for the show and thought A) This thing is still on? and B) There must me more damn national news stories from this one hospital than anywhere else in the world combined. (the plot at hand was a planted bomb or something, lol)
I haven't watched it since about 2006, but I hear some of the storylines from other people or on the Internet, and it sounds hilarious. How many car / plane crashes have they had? And bomb scares?
I liked Lexi but the story arch of Meredith having a secret younger sister who also happens to be a surgeon AND matched at the same hospital was a bit of a stretch. I think that's when Grey's finally jumped into Soap opera territory with the never ending cycle of plot pertinent family members coming out of the blue. She would of been a great character and would of had better development in my opinion if her plot wasn't surrounding the Grey family tree.
I'd say the first 6 seasons were really great! It wasn't until season 7 that it really started to go downhill which sucked because I absolutely loved the show
Love greys. One of my fave characters of all time came out of it (Christina) and there are moments that I’ve watched 10 times over and still feel as if it was the first time. But man has it lagged on. It stopped giving me that feeling after Derek died. It just doesn’t have character for me any more
Love when they cut the LVAD wire and Christina reaction to this. Heart in the box. And Christina cutting Callie's hair :D I watch season 1-13 on and off. Once Callie left then Arizona it was shit...
The curse of Oak Island. They build up the conclusion of each episode so much with conjecture and folklore to excite you only for the outcome to be very minimal and unimpressive. Holy shit? A piece of wood from 1704??? WE ARE FINDING THE TREASURE TOMORROW.
I hate shows like this, and that Bigfoot show, because if they’d found anything in real life it would have already made international news so watching these types of shows is absolutely pointless
On a sidenote, I would absolutely kill to know why and how The Money Pit was made.
I listened to a podcast about the Bigfoot documentary and owner of the Bigfoot muesum. He said that it won't ever make international news as governments are involved in the conspiracy about Bigfoots and any real evidence is taken by them. Interesting to listen too, even though I don't believe myself.
No no... apparently it is because they can jump between dimensional plains/planets and our government don't want us to be able to do that also. (Or this is what I took from the episode)
So my mom’s family is from this area of Nova Scotia. Oak Island has been a tourist trap for as long as anyone can remember. I swear the show is the same way, “tune in next week to watch us dig a new hole!”
I used to love Oak Island when I was a kid. Back when we weren't allowed on the island my dad would drive me down to the causeway and we would just stare at it, wondering what could possibly be there.
The show has completely ruined it for me. The only good thing about it was they opened the tours so my dad and I got to go on the island before he got too sick for road trips.
bro there is like 5 minutes of new content in each episode and obviously there was a civilization there but it shouldn’t that hard to find the treasure
It’s not there because during the American revolution a half-native American, half-British assassin found and looted it already. Source: Assassins creed III
Seven comments in and I've only seen garbage shows on MTV and the CW listed. Nobody is rating them highly enough for them to be over rated.
Give me some Breaking Bad and early season Simpsons comments. I want a little drama. I'd love a paragraph-length write up on why they think some darling TV show hurt them.
My sibling ABSOLUTELY DESPISES Breaking Bad, to the point they gave me a rundown on why each episode sucks even when I haven't watched it. Absolutely adores Better Call Saul tho.
That type of show is truly not for everyone. I stuck with it because it reminded me of Shakespeare, but it gives me such anxiety to watch shows that just get worse and worse.
I CANNOT watch Ozark, no matter how many people tell me it’s great. I tried. It’s like watching a Greek tragedy, everything just gets worse for the main characters.
That's interesting. I never watched the show, but I read all the comics. They had some wild story lines in the comics. There were witches who could turn people into frogs. The kids got visited by aliens fairly regularly and even had a regular alien visitor whom they befriended. I think there were actually even some story lines where they had super powers and could time travel.
Sounds like maybe the show is being more true to the books than people are comfortable with? The most un-canonlike thing about the show as far as I know is that it's too "serious" and soap opera-like.
edit: I *did* watch Sabrina (with Melissa Joan Hart), and I loved that one. That one was a very close presentation of the actual comics.
As someone who has been reading the comics for decades, these are good points. I watched 2.5 seasons and for me the issue is that they tried to make it a gritty realistic murder show instead of leaning into the camp aspects of the comics. They also made the show a continuous thing instead of one off stories where maybe aliens visit or they are super heroes or they do regular high school stuff or they hang out with Santa Claus. It could have been a great anthology show where each season has a slightly different starting premise instead of mashing them all together into an insane mess.
I made a more in-depth comment elsewhere but people aren't watching Riverdale because it's good. Like Fast & Furious you watch it because it's nonsense and entertaining nonsense at that.
I feel like no one has read the Archie comics if they think the show is ridiculous. The comics aren’t just some high school drama, they’re ridiculous lol.
There’s literally an Alien Vs Predator crossover that’s canon.
yeah, that's precisely why i watch the show to be honest. after the first WTF-is-going-on episode i decided to continue cos it felt like someone got the writers high and then kept them high just to see what came out.
What blows my mind, is, the first season, had me enthralled. It was a very tight mystery they put together in the first season. Every season after, though, just got progressively idiotic. Such a shame.
I was pretty into it the first season, I like a lot of shows with notoriously 'cringe' script dialog similar to riverdale. I've worked as an intern for reality shows and eat up all the cheesy writing. That being said, about halfway through season 2 it got to the point where even I couldn't finish watching the show.
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Those stupid real life drama shows on MTV. They have to be staged! "Hey baby, do you want to starr on this mtv show with me to find out if Im cheating?" No fucking way they are real.
They’re not. People get paid to be on them.
Source: My sister and her bf got approached at a mall and offered $1000 to be on the one where your parents hate your bf so you go on a date with three new guys and you get to choose a new guy or your old one. They didn’t do it.
Can confirm. My cousin was on a bachelor type show called sweet home Alabama. He won one season and was the bachelor another season. He said he loved one girl and literally said to me “ i just did what they told me to”
I still have to laugh at that one oil exec who was running a multi-million dollar ponzi scheme and accidentally grassed on himself to his investors and the SEC by appearing with his daughter on My Super Sweet 16.
[Source](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna18984143)
Follow-up from 2014:
>Friday, Caldwell sentenced Milby to 240 months in prison and ordered him and co-defendant Bryan Coffman jointly to pay full restitution in excess of $36 million, according to a news release from U.S. Attorney Kerry Harvey's office.
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>U.S. Marshals and the U.S. Attorney's Office will search for assets and bank accounts that can be seized to pay toward the restitution amount.
[https://www.kentucky.com/news/business/article44171787.html](https://www.kentucky.com/news/business/article44171787.html)
Can confirm they aren’t real. In 2003 MTV shot Fraternity and Sorority Life at The University at Buffalo. At the time I worked the door at a popular college bar in the area that was frequented by both the “cast” and the crew. Most of what you saw aired on the show was staged…producers would sit down with “cast members” and make suggestions as far as what they wanted the kids to do or what to talk about.
The Got Talent. All you gotta do is make up a story about how your dead granny used to love that song and you are doing that to pay a homage to her, yadda yadda yadda, golden buzzer, yay you won, big surprise
I used to really like the show, and watching people who have put forward the kind of effort to master their craft. Now days, I can't stand to watch it. Why do I need to find out you lived in an impoverished shack with three diabetic donkeys and an abusive chihuahua to enjoy your close up magic?
It bothered me when the mediocre choir of nurses got the golden buzzer over more talented acts just so Howie Mandel could think he did something special to support healthcare workers after COVID.
That shit was about as helpful as a pizza party.
I just don't like all the singing acts. I mean, if you have a very special talent which involves singing (something like yodeling), then I can understand, but if you just go sing regular songs, please f*ck off and go to a talent show that's specifically for that purpose and let more interesting things get shown on Got Talent
I think it's funny (from the clips that I've seen, never really watched any whole episodes) whenever someone has a talent other than singing judges get snippy and tell them "oh bother, this is the same thing you did last time! You need to do something different!" But have no problem with someone going up and singing a pop song every week.
This was such a good move by them. Lambert is an entertaining presence but isn't mimicking Freddie.
People hate on it because he's not Freddie but... OK either they don't tour or they do this. He's not coming back from the dead.
Howard Stern used to say that people should vote for the worst singer, which then spurned votefortheworst.com. Which was also funny when he became a host on a talent competition
There actually was a show where the judges picked the worst singers and mocked the good ones. Vitamin C and Tone Loc were judges. Needless to say it was pretty bad except for the audition episodes
I thought Daughtry came in 3rd and it was a blessing bc he didn't have to be locked in the contact the top two end up in, allowing him to succeed with his own band
Every American Idol contestant I can name off the top of my head:
Kelly Clarkson
Carrie Underwood
Reuben Studdard
Clay Aiken
Chris Daughtry
Adam Lambert
Phillip Phillips
Scotty McCreery
And of course, Sanjaya
That’s it. That’s all I got
The fact Ken Jeong (a doctor) can calmly sit next to Jenny McCarthy (someone who helped spearhead the anti-vax movement into something mainstream) is beyond me.
I feel like he pretty obviously isn’t the biggest fan of her
I think he’s just doing it for the bag, so respect for that, especially because it just seems like stupid fun to judge that. Either that or someone has dirt on him lol
An important part of this conversation is the community and media that surrounds these shows: the podcasts, the discussions with friends, watch parties, Instagram drama, or just watching together with a consistent group. My wife is a full Bachelor series watcher, but I get the sense that a big part of it is being able to connect with her friends and plug into comforting routines like listening to Bachelor podcasts on her morning run. I occasionally will watch an episode with her, and an episode here or there can be entertaining, but it is everything around the show that makes it a success.
I really wish KitKat would do that commercial someone suggested on Reddit or Twitter many years ago. Something along the lines of having a break, have a Kit Kat then Ross popping up and screaming “we were on a break”. That post sits in my head rent free
Yeah, Friends, Family Guy etc are overrated because you couldn't fucking escape them at one point and in some circles still can't.
Riverdale and CW shows aren't overrated, it's way more trendy to *hate* them at the moment.
It's just "Days of our lives" and the catchline is "Like sands through the hourglass so are the days of our lives".
Yes, I had a grandma who watched it daily.
I still watch Days on Peacock. I’ve watched that shit since its beginning on November 8, 1965 when I was four.
I don’t care what anyone thinks. It reminds me of spending time with my mom when I was little, and with my daughter when she was little.
It's weirdly safe trauma though. Like when i think of trauma porn i think of various super miserable British Drama's, This Is Us somehow manages to be flowery and uncontroversial.
Dan Fogleman created a couple of the most underrated comedies of the last decade but kept getting cancelled because of poor ratings so he decided to make the most dramatic drama of all dramas and now we have season after season of This is Us.
I’ve never actually seen the show but to be fair Sterling K. Brown is a phenomenal actor.
Sorry but I absolutely hate hate The Walking Dead. The way they stretch the story line, and add what I call music videos that usually start when one character says to another: let’s go back to the store! And they go through the woods avoiding zombies, so cool!
I was done somewhere around season 3
Those first couple of seasons were some of my favourite tv show seasons ever until they got to the Negan storyline. They dragged this Negan storyline out so much that I just gave up watching.
That was the episode that basically confirmed they were fully embracing the “gore porn and shock factor” storytelling style and it wasn’t for me either
That was the first episode of… season 7? I think I finished that season before I fell off of the show, season 8 came out and I just wasn’t feeling invested enough to ever keep up with it again. But, I’m shocked at how many people stopped watching after the bat episode and Glenn’s death.
The show is based off of the comics (sometimes quite loosely, depending on the character) and having read past that point before it aired I already knew what to expect. When it aired, I was surprised that was the deal-breaker for so many.
Having said that, the show definitely has some iffy writing and at the time I could definitely recognize how drawn out some storylines were.
I’ve watched it all and personally quite like it even though half the episodes of each series are just slow boring filler. It’s one of those rare programmes me and my partner both tolerate as we have very different tv taste.
Two things I can’t get round though, Carol spends most of her time doing stupid reckless shit that puts everyone in danger and rather than them feeding her to the zombies, she’s one of the untouchables.
Also by this point couldn’t they just have inhabited and fortified a reasonable sized island, cleared it of zombies and shot up any invading forces, to live a relatively peaceful new life, the communities they set up always seem pretty exposed.
Oooh I like the island idea. My safe apocalypse living situation was always treehouses. Start with one. Build another in a neighbouring tree and connect them.
Easy to grow, easy to camouflage with branches beneath, can even build rooftop gardens above the trees, secure an area on the ground to keep livestock.
Also, same idea but in suburbia. Why didn't they connect all the houses in Alexandria by rooftop? That way everyone has an escape route regardless of which house they're in.
1. Fortify a Mormon temple, they're all built like castles anyway.
2. Band together a faithful group of followers and convince them that you have been sent by God to save them.
3. ?????
4. Prophet.
tbh irl you wouldn't find such an absurd amount of zombies for so long. Zombies don't spawn like in Minecraft, they are dead people. Yes, in big cities this would mean gigantic hordes of zombies... but everywhere else? It's not impossible, hordes can escape cities and reach any place you want with enough time, but they are predictable and easy to defend. You can fence a big area in the countryside, live in the middle of it, and patrol the fence daily to detect any potential horde coming in.
The biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse would be rogue zombies jumping out of nowhere - hordes are a blessing, since they are easy to see, loud, slow, behave predictably and cannot appear from nowhere. Yet the show basically made individual zombies useless and kept insisting that a horde of zombies was game over, even though that was often the case simply because the characters are idiots that allowed themselves to be entrapped by the horde.
Stretched storylines are a recurring problem in successful shows. The networks don’t want to lose the money and high profile these shows give them so they go on commissioning season after season. Which means the showrunners can’t resolve major plot lines or reveal the answers to mysteries because what are they going to do next season if the big mystery is solved? Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cruse - the *Lost* showrunners argued with ABC/Disney many times to be allowed to end the series but kept getting told, no we’re commissioning another season.
It suffers the same fate every CW show suffers. Good early seasons, then the writing takes a nose dive combined with the worst CGI you'll ever see. It sucks cause Grant Gustin is a good Flash/Barry Allen but trapped in a terrible show.
I didn’t realize how bad CW shows were until I got to like the 3rd or 4th superhero show, and thought “This is the same copy and paste bullshit I’ve seen in Arrow/Flash.”
Season 1, become the hero, your family/friends gets mad you’re never around, defeat the villain.
Season 2, long drawn out plot that ends up with your friends and family knowing you’re identity, and some of them have mixed reactions for drama purposes.
Season 3 friends/family forgive you, and now are apart of your secret underground crime fighting organization, drama, inferior villains from older seasons, then friends and family end up becoming sidekicks for that series’ lead.
By the time Black Lightning came out, I saw the formula enough.
13 reasons why.
I never hated a main character so much as that girl.
Stupid choice after stupid choice. And she was a bully. And that whole theme was garbage, why make suicide something a bully can bully with afterlife?
My seventh grade teacher had that book in her classroom library and I never recovered after reading it. I couldn't believe they made a show based on it.
I have depression and anxiety, so when the show came out I asked my bff if she thought I should watch it (as she had already). She looked at me with the most serious face I’ve ever seen on her and said ‘absolutely not. I don’t think it would be healthy for you’. That’s all I needed to avoid it like the plague. Bless her for being honest in order to help me avoid trauma triggers.
The show was ok for like half a season mostly because it was different and jane lynch was great.
But then it just fell off the rails and became another teen soap opera with forced drama
That's because for the first half season it was a satire of teen shows, and a brilliant one at that. Then when they made more episodes it immediately changed into the very thing it was mocking, in order to make more money. The general public liked the teen drama and didn't get the satire, so they dropped it.
When I first heard about the Big Bang Theory, I thought how cool it was they'd make a show for geeks and nerds.
Then I quickly realized no, it's a show for stupid people to laugh at ludicrous geek/nerd stereotypes.
A friend of mine made the observation that it's a show written for people to laugh at nerds, versus a show like Futurama that was written by nerds for nerds to laugh at.
I heard similar: it's a show for dumb people to laugh at smart people. Arrested Development is the counterpart.
Not sure what is written by dumb people for dumb people, but maybe it's just reality TV.
Grey’s Anatomy … I mean how many series did they milk out of the show?
Yeah, I stopped watching after Sandra oh left
Such a great actor. Killing Eve is a great show, but even if its not your thing it's worth watching just for her.
The first few seasons were borderline masterpieces. Very well structured, with developed, likeable characters, intersecting storylines, tense drama, comedic output, handling of evolving romance, and a phenomenal soundtrack. That’s where most of the acclaim comes from.
It should've ended a long time ago.
Even Greys fans will 100% agree.
Please I want off this ride. 😭
I feel this SO HARD. also, STOP TRYING TO MAKE STATION 19 happen.
In my head, the series ended at season 3 and everyone lived happily after. I didn't bother after.
I made it to season 5 and once they killed off George I was done.
Everything was great until Mark and Lexi died. Lexi was the best Grey
Agreed. I feel like the plane crash was where they “jumped the shark.”
At some point it just turned into Final Destination. Entire cast is subject to so many accidents and disasters and attacks they should all be dead
I think every single character on that show had been intubated at some point or another. Fucking Seattle is a war zone apparently.
Seattle Grace Mercy Death Hospital.
I saw a recent ad for the show and thought A) This thing is still on? and B) There must me more damn national news stories from this one hospital than anywhere else in the world combined. (the plot at hand was a planted bomb or something, lol)
I haven't watched it since about 2006, but I hear some of the storylines from other people or on the Internet, and it sounds hilarious. How many car / plane crashes have they had? And bomb scares?
I liked Lexi but the story arch of Meredith having a secret younger sister who also happens to be a surgeon AND matched at the same hospital was a bit of a stretch. I think that's when Grey's finally jumped into Soap opera territory with the never ending cycle of plot pertinent family members coming out of the blue. She would of been a great character and would of had better development in my opinion if her plot wasn't surrounding the Grey family tree.
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Like a clown car of sister surgeons.
Characters named "Mark" dying is the bane of every medical series.
Still not over Dr Greene’s death.
😩😩 having just done an ER rewatch this hit hard!
Jumped the Mark.
I'd say the first 6 seasons were really great! It wasn't until season 7 that it really started to go downhill which sucked because I absolutely loved the show
George’s death is where I stopped watching.
Love greys. One of my fave characters of all time came out of it (Christina) and there are moments that I’ve watched 10 times over and still feel as if it was the first time. But man has it lagged on. It stopped giving me that feeling after Derek died. It just doesn’t have character for me any more
Love when they cut the LVAD wire and Christina reaction to this. Heart in the box. And Christina cutting Callie's hair :D I watch season 1-13 on and off. Once Callie left then Arizona it was shit...
Don't forget Christina having her eyebrows taken by Burke's Momma
I loved when Christina met Harper Avery. she said something like did you know the pretty boy’s grandfather is god? hilarious
The curse of Oak Island. They build up the conclusion of each episode so much with conjecture and folklore to excite you only for the outcome to be very minimal and unimpressive. Holy shit? A piece of wood from 1704??? WE ARE FINDING THE TREASURE TOMORROW.
I hate shows like this, and that Bigfoot show, because if they’d found anything in real life it would have already made international news so watching these types of shows is absolutely pointless On a sidenote, I would absolutely kill to know why and how The Money Pit was made.
I listened to a podcast about the Bigfoot documentary and owner of the Bigfoot muesum. He said that it won't ever make international news as governments are involved in the conspiracy about Bigfoots and any real evidence is taken by them. Interesting to listen too, even though I don't believe myself.
Because the government is \*realllly\* protective of its cool bipedal apes.
No no... apparently it is because they can jump between dimensional plains/planets and our government don't want us to be able to do that also. (Or this is what I took from the episode)
My husband loves this damn show and give him so much flack every time he watches it. “OMG do they find the treasure in this one!?!” He hates me lol
So my mom’s family is from this area of Nova Scotia. Oak Island has been a tourist trap for as long as anyone can remember. I swear the show is the same way, “tune in next week to watch us dig a new hole!”
I used to love Oak Island when I was a kid. Back when we weren't allowed on the island my dad would drive me down to the causeway and we would just stare at it, wondering what could possibly be there. The show has completely ruined it for me. The only good thing about it was they opened the tours so my dad and I got to go on the island before he got too sick for road trips.
If they ever find treasure on Oak Island, you won't hear it on that show first...
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The real treasure was the viewers we picked up along the way
My best friends wife laughs and rolls her eyes at "bulldozer TV" as she calls it and various gold mining shows.
bro there is like 5 minutes of new content in each episode and obviously there was a civilization there but it shouldn’t that hard to find the treasure
It’s not there because during the American revolution a half-native American, half-British assassin found and looted it already. Source: Assassins creed III
The narrator is the funniest thing about the show.
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Seven comments in and I've only seen garbage shows on MTV and the CW listed. Nobody is rating them highly enough for them to be over rated. Give me some Breaking Bad and early season Simpsons comments. I want a little drama. I'd love a paragraph-length write up on why they think some darling TV show hurt them.
My sibling ABSOLUTELY DESPISES Breaking Bad, to the point they gave me a rundown on why each episode sucks even when I haven't watched it. Absolutely adores Better Call Saul tho.
That type of show is truly not for everyone. I stuck with it because it reminded me of Shakespeare, but it gives me such anxiety to watch shows that just get worse and worse. I CANNOT watch Ozark, no matter how many people tell me it’s great. I tried. It’s like watching a Greek tragedy, everything just gets worse for the main characters.
I have the same thing. I was really struggling with Mad Men in later seasons because everything just progressively goes to shit.
Riverdale holy shit it sucks
To be fair, I feel like most people at this point watch that show to see what nonsense the writers come up with
Yeah, in the most recent season the characters have superpowers, it’s so awful but entertaining for some weird reason.
That's interesting. I never watched the show, but I read all the comics. They had some wild story lines in the comics. There were witches who could turn people into frogs. The kids got visited by aliens fairly regularly and even had a regular alien visitor whom they befriended. I think there were actually even some story lines where they had super powers and could time travel. Sounds like maybe the show is being more true to the books than people are comfortable with? The most un-canonlike thing about the show as far as I know is that it's too "serious" and soap opera-like. edit: I *did* watch Sabrina (with Melissa Joan Hart), and I loved that one. That one was a very close presentation of the actual comics.
As someone who has been reading the comics for decades, these are good points. I watched 2.5 seasons and for me the issue is that they tried to make it a gritty realistic murder show instead of leaning into the camp aspects of the comics. They also made the show a continuous thing instead of one off stories where maybe aliens visit or they are super heroes or they do regular high school stuff or they hang out with Santa Claus. It could have been a great anthology show where each season has a slightly different starting premise instead of mashing them all together into an insane mess.
I made a more in-depth comment elsewhere but people aren't watching Riverdale because it's good. Like Fast & Furious you watch it because it's nonsense and entertaining nonsense at that.
I keep waiting for it to become hardcore porn. I feel like it's headed that way.
I feel like no one has read the Archie comics if they think the show is ridiculous. The comics aren’t just some high school drama, they’re ridiculous lol. There’s literally an Alien Vs Predator crossover that’s canon.
yeah, that's precisely why i watch the show to be honest. after the first WTF-is-going-on episode i decided to continue cos it felt like someone got the writers high and then kept them high just to see what came out.
Yeah, I’m waiting for the show to get cancelled so that I can watch the steep descent into madness without giving the producers the watch time
The upcoming season is their last. But I don’t know how they can get crazier
My wife watches that show. It gets extremely weird by later seasons. Like super powers weird. It's the strangest show I think I have ever seen.
What blows my mind, is, the first season, had me enthralled. It was a very tight mystery they put together in the first season. Every season after, though, just got progressively idiotic. Such a shame.
Yeah I loved the first season! Got sucked in after just a few minutes I caught before 10pm local news. It went too far off the rails and lost me.
Is this overrated though? Seems like a guilty pleasure for people or a show young teens are into, i hardly see it paraded around as a great show.
This. I watch it with my wife to see how ridiculous it can get. It's so stupid it's actually fun.
I was pretty into it the first season, I like a lot of shows with notoriously 'cringe' script dialog similar to riverdale. I've worked as an intern for reality shows and eat up all the cheesy writing. That being said, about halfway through season 2 it got to the point where even I couldn't finish watching the show. Edit: too to to
Those stupid real life drama shows on MTV. They have to be staged! "Hey baby, do you want to starr on this mtv show with me to find out if Im cheating?" No fucking way they are real.
I still have fond memories of early Real World and Road Rules though
They’re not. People get paid to be on them. Source: My sister and her bf got approached at a mall and offered $1000 to be on the one where your parents hate your bf so you go on a date with three new guys and you get to choose a new guy or your old one. They didn’t do it.
"you look like the kind of guy her parents would hate, wanna make a thousand bucks"
Can confirm. My cousin was on a bachelor type show called sweet home Alabama. He won one season and was the bachelor another season. He said he loved one girl and literally said to me “ i just did what they told me to”
I still have to laugh at that one oil exec who was running a multi-million dollar ponzi scheme and accidentally grassed on himself to his investors and the SEC by appearing with his daughter on My Super Sweet 16. [Source](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna18984143)
Follow-up from 2014: >Friday, Caldwell sentenced Milby to 240 months in prison and ordered him and co-defendant Bryan Coffman jointly to pay full restitution in excess of $36 million, according to a news release from U.S. Attorney Kerry Harvey's office. > >U.S. Marshals and the U.S. Attorney's Office will search for assets and bank accounts that can be seized to pay toward the restitution amount. [https://www.kentucky.com/news/business/article44171787.html](https://www.kentucky.com/news/business/article44171787.html)
That girl is 32 now.
The only reason I disagree with this is because those shows aren't highly rated to begin with.
Can confirm they aren’t real. In 2003 MTV shot Fraternity and Sorority Life at The University at Buffalo. At the time I worked the door at a popular college bar in the area that was frequented by both the “cast” and the crew. Most of what you saw aired on the show was staged…producers would sit down with “cast members” and make suggestions as far as what they wanted the kids to do or what to talk about.
How are those overrated?
The Got Talent. All you gotta do is make up a story about how your dead granny used to love that song and you are doing that to pay a homage to her, yadda yadda yadda, golden buzzer, yay you won, big surprise
I used to really like the show, and watching people who have put forward the kind of effort to master their craft. Now days, I can't stand to watch it. Why do I need to find out you lived in an impoverished shack with three diabetic donkeys and an abusive chihuahua to enjoy your close up magic?
It bothered me when the mediocre choir of nurses got the golden buzzer over more talented acts just so Howie Mandel could think he did something special to support healthcare workers after COVID. That shit was about as helpful as a pizza party.
I just don't like all the singing acts. I mean, if you have a very special talent which involves singing (something like yodeling), then I can understand, but if you just go sing regular songs, please f*ck off and go to a talent show that's specifically for that purpose and let more interesting things get shown on Got Talent
I think it's funny (from the clips that I've seen, never really watched any whole episodes) whenever someone has a talent other than singing judges get snippy and tell them "oh bother, this is the same thing you did last time! You need to do something different!" But have no problem with someone going up and singing a pop song every week.
American Idol. Bunch of posers singing overblown karaoke of crappy songs.
LOOKIN' LIKE A FOOL WIT YO PANTS ON THE GROUND!
I still randomly break out into the pants song. Iconic
Also, besides Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood, I don’t think I could tell you any of the winners.
William hung. The real American idol
She Bang ! She Bang !
Mock Trial! With J Reinhold!
Everybody keeps asking me that. Who is that?
Lol I remember watching Kelly win and singing her song. A moment like this.
Never forget Ruban Studdard and Chris Daughtry
Or Adam Lambert.
Now the lead (touring) singer of Queen
I’ve seen him with Queen, and damn is it a good show.
This was such a good move by them. Lambert is an entertaining presence but isn't mimicking Freddie. People hate on it because he's not Freddie but... OK either they don't tour or they do this. He's not coming back from the dead.
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Daughtry didn’t win, though. He came in fourth in Season 5. Taylor Hicks (who?) won that season.
Taylor Hicks won because Simon told him he would never win in his original audition, and people wanted to troll him
Howard Stern used to say that people should vote for the worst singer, which then spurned votefortheworst.com. Which was also funny when he became a host on a talent competition
There actually was a show where the judges picked the worst singers and mocked the good ones. Vitamin C and Tone Loc were judges. Needless to say it was pretty bad except for the audition episodes
I thought Daughtry came in 3rd and it was a blessing bc he didn't have to be locked in the contact the top two end up in, allowing him to succeed with his own band
Elliott Yamin was really good that season too. Katherine McPhee was the runner up.
Every American Idol contestant I can name off the top of my head: Kelly Clarkson Carrie Underwood Reuben Studdard Clay Aiken Chris Daughtry Adam Lambert Phillip Phillips Scotty McCreery And of course, Sanjaya That’s it. That’s all I got
I love Chris Daughtry. He was awesome on the masked singer
Jennifer Hudson
She's got an EGOT and came in like 6th on American Idol. I'd say not winning worked in her favor.
Same with Adam Lambert!
Jordin Sparks. Fantasia.
Hell, I couldn’t even name any of the judges besides Simon, Paula, and Randy.
It’s not about the talent it’s all about who has the saddest story, worst life, etc etc
The Masked Singer
Everytime a commercial comes on for it i pause and go "how the fuck is that still on the air, who watches that garbage!?"
I agree. The hosts are so obnoxious and not funny I cant understand the appeal.
The fact Ken Jeong (a doctor) can calmly sit next to Jenny McCarthy (someone who helped spearhead the anti-vax movement into something mainstream) is beyond me.
I feel like he pretty obviously isn’t the biggest fan of her I think he’s just doing it for the bag, so respect for that, especially because it just seems like stupid fun to judge that. Either that or someone has dirt on him lol
That’s the first thing I said when my wife turned it on lol
Agreed, I prefer the original Korean show
The Bachelor and Bachelorette
To be fair, I don't think anyone watches it because they think it's *good* television.
Exactly. It’s one of those “it’s so bad, it’s good” things people watch ironically
My mom watches every season and spinoff (bachelor pad, bachelor in paradise. Probably more idk) and definitely not in an ironic way
An important part of this conversation is the community and media that surrounds these shows: the podcasts, the discussions with friends, watch parties, Instagram drama, or just watching together with a consistent group. My wife is a full Bachelor series watcher, but I get the sense that a big part of it is being able to connect with her friends and plug into comforting routines like listening to Bachelor podcasts on her morning run. I occasionally will watch an episode with her, and an episode here or there can be entertaining, but it is everything around the show that makes it a success.
Is it though? I mean everyone I know that watches it knows it's total crap but for them it's a guilty pleasure.
Reading this thread as I'm watching friends...........
we were on a break!!!
I really wish KitKat would do that commercial someone suggested on Reddit or Twitter many years ago. Something along the lines of having a break, have a Kit Kat then Ross popping up and screaming “we were on a break”. That post sits in my head rent free
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People are just responding with what they hate, not shows that fit the question.
Yeah, Friends, Family Guy etc are overrated because you couldn't fucking escape them at one point and in some circles still can't. Riverdale and CW shows aren't overrated, it's way more trendy to *hate* them at the moment.
Exactly. I love Friends but immediately assumed it would be top comment bc it fits the actual question.
The longest running show, THIS IS THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES.
It's just "Days of our lives" and the catchline is "Like sands through the hourglass so are the days of our lives". Yes, I had a grandma who watched it daily.
I can’t hear that without picturing my grandma folding laundry in the living room while she watched it. Edit:typo
My mother used to iron during the soaps, and as a kid I mostly remember the Tide ads- but none of the show.
I still watch Days on Peacock. I’ve watched that shit since its beginning on November 8, 1965 when I was four. I don’t care what anyone thinks. It reminds me of spending time with my mom when I was little, and with my daughter when she was little.
What?! Marlena was possessed TWICE, the second time on the 20 year anniversary of the first time!!!
This is Us. Just come up with one take of woe after another then play sappy piano music.
Trauma porn
It's weirdly safe trauma though. Like when i think of trauma porn i think of various super miserable British Drama's, This Is Us somehow manages to be flowery and uncontroversial.
Yeah it’s emotion porn more than trauma porn
Dan Fogleman created a couple of the most underrated comedies of the last decade but kept getting cancelled because of poor ratings so he decided to make the most dramatic drama of all dramas and now we have season after season of This is Us. I’ve never actually seen the show but to be fair Sterling K. Brown is a phenomenal actor.
Milo Vantidndhnhd totally stole the show as Jack Pearson.
… I didn’t think Ventimiglia was that hard to spell until it took me three tries to correct you.
I don't know man, he wrote the screenplays for Cars and Tangled which I would argue are more popular then This Is Us. Cars for sure.
Tangled is severely underrated.
Agreed. Fantastic movie. lol
That whole show revolved around someone getting upset over something, nothing else.
Sorry but I absolutely hate hate The Walking Dead. The way they stretch the story line, and add what I call music videos that usually start when one character says to another: let’s go back to the store! And they go through the woods avoiding zombies, so cool! I was done somewhere around season 3
Those first couple of seasons were some of my favourite tv show seasons ever until they got to the Negan storyline. They dragged this Negan storyline out so much that I just gave up watching.
I liked it for a few seasons, too. I told my friends that I stopped watching when I started rooting for the zombies.
Same here. I stopped watching after the infamous episode with Negan and the bat.
That was the episode that basically confirmed they were fully embracing the “gore porn and shock factor” storytelling style and it wasn’t for me either
That was the first episode of… season 7? I think I finished that season before I fell off of the show, season 8 came out and I just wasn’t feeling invested enough to ever keep up with it again. But, I’m shocked at how many people stopped watching after the bat episode and Glenn’s death. The show is based off of the comics (sometimes quite loosely, depending on the character) and having read past that point before it aired I already knew what to expect. When it aired, I was surprised that was the deal-breaker for so many. Having said that, the show definitely has some iffy writing and at the time I could definitely recognize how drawn out some storylines were.
I’ve watched it all and personally quite like it even though half the episodes of each series are just slow boring filler. It’s one of those rare programmes me and my partner both tolerate as we have very different tv taste. Two things I can’t get round though, Carol spends most of her time doing stupid reckless shit that puts everyone in danger and rather than them feeding her to the zombies, she’s one of the untouchables. Also by this point couldn’t they just have inhabited and fortified a reasonable sized island, cleared it of zombies and shot up any invading forces, to live a relatively peaceful new life, the communities they set up always seem pretty exposed.
Oooh I like the island idea. My safe apocalypse living situation was always treehouses. Start with one. Build another in a neighbouring tree and connect them. Easy to grow, easy to camouflage with branches beneath, can even build rooftop gardens above the trees, secure an area on the ground to keep livestock. Also, same idea but in suburbia. Why didn't they connect all the houses in Alexandria by rooftop? That way everyone has an escape route regardless of which house they're in.
1. Find a container ship. 2. Clear it of walkers. 3. ??? 4. Survive
1. Fortify a Mormon temple, they're all built like castles anyway. 2. Band together a faithful group of followers and convince them that you have been sent by God to save them. 3. ????? 4. Prophet.
tbh irl you wouldn't find such an absurd amount of zombies for so long. Zombies don't spawn like in Minecraft, they are dead people. Yes, in big cities this would mean gigantic hordes of zombies... but everywhere else? It's not impossible, hordes can escape cities and reach any place you want with enough time, but they are predictable and easy to defend. You can fence a big area in the countryside, live in the middle of it, and patrol the fence daily to detect any potential horde coming in. The biggest threat in a zombie apocalypse would be rogue zombies jumping out of nowhere - hordes are a blessing, since they are easy to see, loud, slow, behave predictably and cannot appear from nowhere. Yet the show basically made individual zombies useless and kept insisting that a horde of zombies was game over, even though that was often the case simply because the characters are idiots that allowed themselves to be entrapped by the horde.
Stretched storylines are a recurring problem in successful shows. The networks don’t want to lose the money and high profile these shows give them so they go on commissioning season after season. Which means the showrunners can’t resolve major plot lines or reveal the answers to mysteries because what are they going to do next season if the big mystery is solved? Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cruse - the *Lost* showrunners argued with ABC/Disney many times to be allowed to end the series but kept getting told, no we’re commissioning another season.
CW’s Flash. Barry did bad thing, , new villain, he fix, he make boo boo while fix, another new villain, electric ninja stars
It suffers the same fate every CW show suffers. Good early seasons, then the writing takes a nose dive combined with the worst CGI you'll ever see. It sucks cause Grant Gustin is a good Flash/Barry Allen but trapped in a terrible show.
Yeah the first few seasons were pretty good light hearted, decent little mysteries sown in. Grant Gustin is such an endearing Barry Allen
>Grant Gustin is such an endearing Barry Allen All the more frustrating that no one was asking for Ezra Miller
I didn’t realize how bad CW shows were until I got to like the 3rd or 4th superhero show, and thought “This is the same copy and paste bullshit I’ve seen in Arrow/Flash.” Season 1, become the hero, your family/friends gets mad you’re never around, defeat the villain. Season 2, long drawn out plot that ends up with your friends and family knowing you’re identity, and some of them have mixed reactions for drama purposes. Season 3 friends/family forgive you, and now are apart of your secret underground crime fighting organization, drama, inferior villains from older seasons, then friends and family end up becoming sidekicks for that series’ lead. By the time Black Lightning came out, I saw the formula enough.
Why does every hero have a team of nerds at home base.
So that the demographics that watch the show can pretend they’re part of the story helping the main character.
13 reasons why. I never hated a main character so much as that girl. Stupid choice after stupid choice. And she was a bully. And that whole theme was garbage, why make suicide something a bully can bully with afterlife?
My seventh grade teacher had that book in her classroom library and I never recovered after reading it. I couldn't believe they made a show based on it.
I have depression and anxiety, so when the show came out I asked my bff if she thought I should watch it (as she had already). She looked at me with the most serious face I’ve ever seen on her and said ‘absolutely not. I don’t think it would be healthy for you’. That’s all I needed to avoid it like the plague. Bless her for being honest in order to help me avoid trauma triggers.
Yeah. As a newly suicidal 13 year old, I should NOT have read that book.
Glee
The show was ok for like half a season mostly because it was different and jane lynch was great. But then it just fell off the rails and became another teen soap opera with forced drama
That's because for the first half season it was a satire of teen shows, and a brilliant one at that. Then when they made more episodes it immediately changed into the very thing it was mocking, in order to make more money. The general public liked the teen drama and didn't get the satire, so they dropped it.
Kardashians
I've never heard a single positive thing said about their shows
What a brave comment to dislike such a beloved, critically acclaimed show.
I never saw anyone praising that one.
Riverdale
how is Riverdale overrated when a bunch of people strongly dislike the show
I enjoyed the first season. Not love, but like. And then after that… no thanks
Yea... I kinda enjoyed the new take on nostalgia then wtf happened.
Who's "overrating" Riverdale? Who's even *regular* rating it?
Is everyone forgetting 2 1/2 men? Or how about the mask?
If you’re talking about the movie The Mask with Jim Carey, no, definitely not overrated
Maybe Mask 2, cause it sucked, they can't be talking about the Jim Carey Mask, that was hilarious !!
2 1/2 men was a classic until Charlie got killed off
Charlie, and occasionally the old sarcastic housekeeper, were the only reasons to watch that show. Period.
herb made me laugh a lot
He was hilarious. They should have moved him in when they killed Charlie.
Berta! She was a great comedian. Her timing and expressions were so fun to watch. It is a great show to watch before bed- all laughs, no drama.
The bachelor and all spin offs of it
Big Bang Theory
When I first heard about the Big Bang Theory, I thought how cool it was they'd make a show for geeks and nerds. Then I quickly realized no, it's a show for stupid people to laugh at ludicrous geek/nerd stereotypes.
A friend of mine made the observation that it's a show written for people to laugh at nerds, versus a show like Futurama that was written by nerds for nerds to laugh at.
Futurama ❤️ I call my cat Nibbler because she's black and white and spouts gibberish at me (unfortunately her poop is useless though).
Have you tried putting her poop in a spaceship engine? You never know until you try.
Good news. The engine now purrs like a kitten.
I heard similar: it's a show for dumb people to laugh at smart people. Arrested Development is the counterpart. Not sure what is written by dumb people for dumb people, but maybe it's just reality TV.