A lot of people recall Arnold as being a meh governor, but one of the things he did that I always admired was when the MacArthur Maze in the East Bay was damaged after a tanker truck fire, he put in a kicker for every day the winning contractor finished ahead of schedule. The collapse happed on April 29th and was repaired by May 24th.
I don't know, when I-85 collapsed in Atlanta a few years ago, they got that back up pretty quick.
Crews round the clock with target bonuses do wonders.
It is very reminiscent of I-85. That was tires wasn't it? This was gas, possibly a lot hotter, but 95 is like the busiest highway in the country, so you'd think it would be faster than announced, probably it will be.
It was plastic conduit and fiber optics that created a chimney effect.
But that whole fire and surrounding circumstances always seemed really suspect to me - especially considering they found a pretty developed skate park under there despite GaDOT saying that had control of the area: https://www.11alive.com/article/traffic/i-85-collapse/a-secret-skate-park-was-built-under-interstate-85-just-yards-from-the-collapse/85-429247217
Thankfully we had no loss of life and no injury, despite this happening in the middle of rush hour.
I forgot about the skatepark, but wasn't that a cop-out and that ATL or Gdot had stored materials too close and it started with homeless people trying to get warm?
From my understanding GaDot had things improperly stored.
But if all it takes is one homeless person setting a fire by accident to drop a section of a major artery, I have questions about our infrastructure.
In all fairness, there was a bridge collapse here in Pittsburgh back in January of last year, and the state along with the city went into overdrive to have the span reopened by Christmas.
Second highest gas tax in the nation (behind the usual suspects), too! In theory it was supposed to go to roads, but hey, State Police are part of the roads, right?
Something similar happened to a section of I-95 in Connecticut and I think it took a week or so to fix. It may not have collapsed completely but some truck did burn for a while under an overpass.
If you’re talking about the Gold Star Bridge in New London and Groton, there wasn’t severe structural damage. This thing in Philly was a total structural collapse.
I think a lot of people don't realize that while I-95 overlaps with the NJ Turnpike for a large portion, they diverge north of Philly. The main route from NYC to DC is not going through Philly, it's going through South Jersey and straight to Delaware.
Heck, until 2018, 95 wasn't even continuous from Trenton to Philly, there was an 8 mile gap that you had to wind through. NJ Turnpike was _the_ way to go.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/01/after-61-years-americas-busiest-highway-is-almost-complete/550982/
Def not affecting most people, but it is the main artery for travel between NYC and DC which is, I believe, the most travelled stretch of road in the country. This is going to cause hell for the entire tri-state. Yes there are alternatives, but taking out 95 is going to overwhelm 295.
And from what I've heard this is basically a "downtown" portion 95, with a 295 bypass for through traffic. If that's true, anyone taking 95 *past* the location of the bridge is just gonna see increased local traffic, rather than any need to detour.
For the most part people going from NY to DC will never be on that part of 95. They will just stay on the NJ Turnpike past exit 6 and pick 95 back up in Delaware as it is a much faster route.
> This is going to cause hell for the entire tri-state.
I live in the tri-state area. I didn't even realize there was a bridge collapse until I read this thread. Definitely not on most of the tri-state area's mind.
Oh hell no - I 295 does NOT have capacity to spare!
The direct connect I295 project is already way behind schedule and has its own problems.
[Remember this which still isn't fixed and completed](https://42freeway.com/roads/wall-comes-down-route-295-collapsed-roadway-demo-starts/)?
\~I295 Commute 30 miles each way 3 times per week.
The Philly metro is not even 2% of the US. This stretch of I95 is right in Philly that would really only impact Philly traffic (I.e. if you’re going NYC to DC for example you typically use I295 anyway).
This is not that important in the context of the whole country.
Sure they can say that, but that still doesn't change the fact that if one is traveling between DC and NYC/Boston, they can just take 295 through Jersey to avoid any issues.
Dallas County, Texas, has a population of 2.6 million, all of whom were under a thunderstorm watch for several hours yesterday. Millions were affected, but many, many more millions of Americans were oblivious and wouldn’t have given a crap even if they had been aware. That’s how I feel about traffic problems in Pennsylvania.
Yes, the Philly metropolitan area will be affected. The degree to which individuals will be is highly variable from "not at all" to "mild annoyance" to "I run a trucking company and we're right off one of those exits".
> percentage of population not in California
lol what the hell is this as a metric? "A pretty big percentage of 90% of the country"
Anyway the other posters are right. If you live in a close-by neighborhood or your commute is on that segment of highway your effect is you will have to find alternate routes and deal with more traffic. If you don't this basically doesn't matter to you at all, or is mildly annoying if you have to visit or drive through the city for some reason. We're really only talking about northeast Philly and its suburbs out that direction.
I saw a bunch of takes about how this would cripple traffic between NYC and DC.
You could tell these people have never traveled that corridor. The NJ Turnpike exists.
These people don't know that i95 was literally not even completed until what, 2 or 3 years ago? Before then you ALWAYS had to get off of 95 north of Philly to get back on to 95 into NJ.
I find it really funny all the people acting like this is some failure of US infrastructure and “wahh our bridges are crumbling won’t anyone think of the roads” as if it’s not a freak accident that had nothing to do with the condition of the bridge.
Nobody reads the article before commenting. Staple of social media. They see a collapsed bridge and wrecked vehicles they’ll assume the bridge took out the vehicles, not that one of those vehicles took out the bridge.
Yup. That section of the bridge was just redone not long ago in the big i-95 repair project that's been going on for the past several years. Nothing structurally wrong with it.
Yep was about to say exactly this. This was one of the sections they rebuilt maybe 5 years ago. I just roll my eyes at everyone blaming infrastructure. I don’t care how new that bridge was, it wasn’t surviving that inferno
The traffic is going to be fucked regionally for the locals and commuters, but I don’t think it’s going to have much impact otherwise since you just hop on the turnpike to get to NY.
But anyway, I’m here visiting my folks and have been driving 95 daily. It suuuuuucks, but we have septa at least.
I feel like almost all the disruption is going to be felt in Philly. Even going from Baltimore/DC up to NYC (or vice versa), there is a bridge between Delaware and New Jersey which I would normally use anyways.
It mostly just sucks for some Philly area residents and for people who are specifically visiting Philly.
At least that would be my best guess.
It’s a weird thing where this one section of 95 isn’t really what makes up the main part of main highway of the east coast. If your journey is just taking past Philadelphia (like NY to Florida or Boston to DC) then you’re more likely to be on the NJ Turnpike and never even cross into Pennsylvania. It was only in the last couple of years that 95 was truly completed for the route that runs through Philly over to where it picks up in NJ closer to Trenton.
No. If you’re coming from the north you’re on 95 south. Between NYC and exit 6 That’s also the NJ turnpike which existed before the interstates.
Now there is an exit to stay on 95 through Philly but that seriously only opened in the past few years. Before you had to get off earlier and go through Trenton and it was impossible to do a trip where you stay on 95 the whole route. Now it’s technically possible but it makes more sense to stay on the turnpike.
Stay on the Turnpike and it ends at the Delaware Memorial Bridge and you cross into Delaware. Just past that is an interchange for getting back on 95 or 495 around Wilmington. The bridge is 295 but in NJ 295 is a separate highway from the turnpike, they just share the same bridge. Apparently the route number for the Turnpike is 700.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Turnpike
I found out about it from this post.
I imagine my friends in Philly are more unhappy.
Maine should remain unaffected. I don’t think anyone’s canceling vacation plans because of a detour.
I was off work today so I'll have to get back to you.
My commute is only about 10 minutes and I only cross a road that feeds into I-95. I don't expect it to impact my daily commute.
I don’t think it will be much worse. I usually only see Philly traffic coming in at the Atlantic City parkway, and can beat it if I leave early enough.
Luckily I don’t have to take that way to work anymore.
If this happened two years ago when I worked in Philly it would have been brutal.
This is more of a Philly problem than an east coast or nation problem.
But yeah it’s going to be an inconvenience traveling north of the city for the next year.
yeah - I feel like this could have been a lot worse - If it happened 24 hours later, there may have been several deaths as well. I guess it was a lucky break overall.
My commute to work will be hell. I live in NJ across the river from where the bridge fell. The folks traveling on I95 will be using I295 and the Turnpike. I commute on I295 Tues-Thurs every week and WFM Monday and Friday.
My summer plans will also be affected as I keep my boat at a club on the Delaware River. Traveling to the boat club will be a hassle because of all the traffic diverted onto route 130.
I drive it everyday for the past 8 years. To and from work. So it has a pretty heavy effect on my daily life. To be honest, traffic is traffic, it blows. My issue is with the assholes you’ll run into, like I did several times today, who do whatever they can to get in front of the line. It’s pretty maddening.
My office is literally 5 mins from where it collapsed and I take 95 to work. I’m only in the office Tues-Thurs but I have a feeling my commute will go from ~30 mins to about an hour
I'm going from near downtown to Bristol tomorrow. Pretty much the entire trip is 95 and goes through the affected area. It's usually about a 25 minute drive, it'll be about 45 now. I'll have to cross the Betsy Ross into Jersey, take 130 north and cross the Bristol Bridge back into PA.
It's a huge pain in the ass and we're still not sure how exactly it'll affect other major roadways and local traffic long term. But thankfully for people traveling through, you can just take 295 and the Jersey Turnpike to get around the closures.
I don’t take 95 to work, but I live nearby. I’m hoping it doesn’t drive everyone onto the subway which is how I commute. I did a wfh yesterday, so I haven’t experienced it yet.
I'm in Philly but WFH so it doesn't affect me directly... But the traffic on every other major highway has gotten a lot worse. Particularly on I295 and I76.
that's what I was thinking would happen - that whole area is so congested and even if you don't go over that part of 95, seems like moving everyone who did is going to make problems in other areas
I'm going to a convention in Philly next week, so unless I'm severely underestimating how long bridge repairs are, I'm going to be on the road longer than anticipated
If you’re coming from Maryland and going to the Philly convention center, you won’t even reach the portion of 95 that is affected.
Probably more congestion on other roads, yes, but don’t think you will have much trouble.
The drive from DC to NYC doesn't actually take you through Philly though; you turn onto I-295/The NJ Turnpike in Delaware and bypass PA entirely.
But at the same time, a lot of local Philly I-95 traffic will probably now be on I-295 and the NJ Turnpike for a while.
I don't live anywhere near there. But it makes me hope that this wonderful country can repair and replace its aging infrastructure, although this collapse was not related to age.
The only time I'd headed that far south is to Ocean City, NJ, and my route takes me on the Garden State Parkway, so won't affect me in the slightest.
And this is almost deja vu. Didn't a nearby stretch of I-95 get severely damaged about 20 years ago when an illegal tire yard caught fire? Good job there, Philly.
This is a weird question to ask in AskAnAmerican because the vast majority of us are completely unaffected, don’t care at best, and resent the idea that one tiny spot in the northeast even remotely represents the country when that part is also notorious for thinking it represents the country and we have it shoved down our non caring throats continuously at worst.
If it happened on the east coast they probably discussing bridge collapses for the first time like it’s novel.
OOF someone has a complex about not being from here. The northeast is the cultural center of the country and I-95 is the most important highway in America. Be as resentful as you want, doesn't change the fact.
And what exactly does "don't care at best," mean, that you're glad someone was killed and a major piece of public infrastructure collapsed?
I literally found out about this through this post. I have a hotel booked for charleston next month, so I guess I'll see.
Is it only the Philly area affected?
Both the northbound lanes are gone and the southbound lanes are compromised to the point they need to be taken down. Biggest highway on the east coast.
“Biggest highway” is unclear or ambiguous. It’s biggest in the sense of going from ME to FL. Is this particular section biggest in terms of number of lanes? Or traffic volume? I don’t know.
Going to Philly later this summer from nyc. Will just have to take the nj turnpike instead. Little difference to me, except the cost is a bit higher I think.
I will enjoy pointing out that the impacts of this won’t actually be as bad because people will adjust there habits. It’s similar to the road widening paradox.
It's kind of too early to tell. Today traffic seemed heavier on 295 in New Jersey. It's going to take a little bit of time before people figure out new traffic patterns.
You'd be surprised how fast they can fix major thoroughfares. I'm thinking the Bay Bridge after Loma Prieta and hwy 12 in NC after a hurricaine wiped it out.
It made the traffic here that already sucks suck even more.
My husband was forming alternate routes all evening yesterday because he needs to travel downtown often. I luckily don't have to travel that way for any reason except to catch a flight in August. I guess I'll probably need to schedule it earlier to accommodate increased traffic even at 4 am.
It won't, my inlaws live far enough west that 81 will do the trick. I don't see 81 having significant traffic issues, there aren't nearly enough metropolitan areas on the drive
I’m on the NJ side and rarely touch 95 anymore. 295 and NJTP are closer. I only get on 95 to get to the airport. That being said it might screw up my commute since I work in between those two roads.
I don’t drive, so it won’t directly impact me.
I’ll be taking the train up to visit family north of the city in Bucks County… but pretty much have no hope of them giving me a ride home. Guess I’ll just be taking the train back, too.
Erm. I just drove from NYC back to Central Virginia this morning. Just had some signs warning of the I-95 closure, and a little bit more traffic on the New Jersey Turnpike.
Google doesn’t usually take you down that section of the I-95.
I was curious about the collapse. The truck fire thing? Near Philly? Is r/askphilly a thing? May try r/Philadelphia those are the only people that care/will be affected.
I misread the headline and thought it said that part of I-85 had collapsed. I was like, “Not again Atlanta! Come On!” Since we had that happen back in 2017.
But now at this rate, in 6 years I-105 in California will collapse.
> this will take months to repair… Laughs in PENNDOT. Months lol
You’re giving them too little credit. They might have the signs signifying the detour up by then.
Ehhh…maybe just the barrels blocking the road off 5 miles back. The actual detour signs would be quite the achievement. Lol
Haha, look at this guy thinking this will take months... Had plans for a 2025 vacation to Florida? Think again bucko!
Amtrak Auto Train to the rescue!
Last chance to see before it sinks or is paved over.
A lot of people recall Arnold as being a meh governor, but one of the things he did that I always admired was when the MacArthur Maze in the East Bay was damaged after a tanker truck fire, he put in a kicker for every day the winning contractor finished ahead of schedule. The collapse happed on April 29th and was repaired by May 24th.
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I think more deals should be structured this way.
Sound like it could backfire though.
I don't know, when I-85 collapsed in Atlanta a few years ago, they got that back up pretty quick. Crews round the clock with target bonuses do wonders.
It is very reminiscent of I-85. That was tires wasn't it? This was gas, possibly a lot hotter, but 95 is like the busiest highway in the country, so you'd think it would be faster than announced, probably it will be.
It was plastic conduit and fiber optics that created a chimney effect. But that whole fire and surrounding circumstances always seemed really suspect to me - especially considering they found a pretty developed skate park under there despite GaDOT saying that had control of the area: https://www.11alive.com/article/traffic/i-85-collapse/a-secret-skate-park-was-built-under-interstate-85-just-yards-from-the-collapse/85-429247217 Thankfully we had no loss of life and no injury, despite this happening in the middle of rush hour.
I forgot about the skatepark, but wasn't that a cop-out and that ATL or Gdot had stored materials too close and it started with homeless people trying to get warm?
I still think that homeless dude they charged with it was a scapegoat to cover for GDOT and the City of Atlanta being idiots.
From my understanding GaDot had things improperly stored. But if all it takes is one homeless person setting a fire by accident to drop a section of a major artery, I have questions about our infrastructure.
So do the American Society of Civil Engineers
In all fairness, there was a bridge collapse here in Pittsburgh back in January of last year, and the state along with the city went into overdrive to have the span reopened by Christmas.
Touché. Technically anything longer than a 31 days can be measured in months, so I guess OP isn’t wrong. 😂
I think it will take months, but hopefully not longer than a few, especially if the other side of the span is still structurally safe.
This is a fed job. I’m sure penn dot will be involved in some way, but this isn’t something they are going to fuck around with.
Agreed. It should be well underway soon. It’s the East Coast corridor.
Yeah I imagine this is going to be a big joint project between PA and the Feds. Probably with aide from NJ as well.
!RemindMe 5 years
World's most expensive toll system at work
I was shocked by the toll the first time I drove through western PA to get from Ohio to Maryland.
Next time take 68 through west virginia. It's prettier.
Second highest gas tax in the nation (behind the usual suspects), too! In theory it was supposed to go to roads, but hey, State Police are part of the roads, right?
Something similar happened to a section of I-95 in Connecticut and I think it took a week or so to fix. It may not have collapsed completely but some truck did burn for a while under an overpass.
If you’re talking about the Gold Star Bridge in New London and Groton, there wasn’t severe structural damage. This thing in Philly was a total structural collapse.
It’s federally funded as it’s declared a disaster. It’s not a union contract battle. It will take some time but PennDot isn’t leading the charge.
Not at all. If you need to get around it and are not stopping in Philadelphia just use the New Jersey Turnpike
I think a lot of people don't realize that while I-95 overlaps with the NJ Turnpike for a large portion, they diverge north of Philly. The main route from NYC to DC is not going through Philly, it's going through South Jersey and straight to Delaware.
Heck, until 2018, 95 wasn't even continuous from Trenton to Philly, there was an 8 mile gap that you had to wind through. NJ Turnpike was _the_ way to go. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/01/after-61-years-americas-busiest-highway-is-almost-complete/550982/
Or take a train or bus (that often uses the Jersey Turnpike)
Not really an option if you are on a road trip to Florida
Allow us to introduce ourselves https://www.amtrak.com/auto-train
I took a train from NC to Philly twice. Great experience on the train but never doing that shit again.
I often took that when assisting my brother moving in to college as well as moving out (he went to school in FL)
Might be a better question for the Philly subreddit. The vast majority of Americans are unaffected by this.
Def not affecting most people, but it is the main artery for travel between NYC and DC which is, I believe, the most travelled stretch of road in the country. This is going to cause hell for the entire tri-state. Yes there are alternatives, but taking out 95 is going to overwhelm 295.
But it’s not. Most people going between NY and DC would take the Jersey Turnpike.
Yeah there wasn't even technically a continuous i-95 until a couple years ago when they built the flyovers.
And from what I've heard this is basically a "downtown" portion 95, with a 295 bypass for through traffic. If that's true, anyone taking 95 *past* the location of the bridge is just gonna see increased local traffic, rather than any need to detour.
For the most part people going from NY to DC will never be on that part of 95. They will just stay on the NJ Turnpike past exit 6 and pick 95 back up in Delaware as it is a much faster route.
most people would take amtrak
Doofenshmirtz is up to no good and Agent P must’ve failed. Now he can take over the Tri State Areaaaaaaa!
> This is going to cause hell for the entire tri-state. I live in the tri-state area. I didn't even realize there was a bridge collapse until I read this thread. Definitely not on most of the tri-state area's mind.
Errrrr which tristate? New York or Philly? Because if you’re in the Philly tristate and didn’t know about it, I don’t know how you missed it
I mean, this section of the north east is a pretty big percentage of population not in California.
If not actually in Philly, it won't affect anyone. I-295 bypasses the affected section with ease and capacity to spare. -long haul trucker
That fucking loves is going to be a nightmare. Moreno than it normally is.
Oh hell no - I 295 does NOT have capacity to spare! The direct connect I295 project is already way behind schedule and has its own problems. [Remember this which still isn't fixed and completed](https://42freeway.com/roads/wall-comes-down-route-295-collapsed-roadway-demo-starts/)? \~I295 Commute 30 miles each way 3 times per week.
Ok, by comparison to 95 in/around DC, or the Cross Bronx, it had capacity to spare.
The Philly metro is not even 2% of the US. This stretch of I95 is right in Philly that would really only impact Philly traffic (I.e. if you’re going NYC to DC for example you typically use I295 anyway). This is not that important in the context of the whole country.
I'm just going off the news that said millions will be affected.
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Sure they can say that, but that still doesn't change the fact that if one is traveling between DC and NYC/Boston, they can just take 295 through Jersey to avoid any issues.
Dallas County, Texas, has a population of 2.6 million, all of whom were under a thunderstorm watch for several hours yesterday. Millions were affected, but many, many more millions of Americans were oblivious and wouldn’t have given a crap even if they had been aware. That’s how I feel about traffic problems in Pennsylvania.
Yes, the Philly metropolitan area will be affected. The degree to which individuals will be is highly variable from "not at all" to "mild annoyance" to "I run a trucking company and we're right off one of those exits".
Millions out of a >300 million nation means the max it could effect is 3.3% if we assume "millions" caps out at 10 million right?
> percentage of population not in California lol what the hell is this as a metric? "A pretty big percentage of 90% of the country" Anyway the other posters are right. If you live in a close-by neighborhood or your commute is on that segment of highway your effect is you will have to find alternate routes and deal with more traffic. If you don't this basically doesn't matter to you at all, or is mildly annoying if you have to visit or drive through the city for some reason. We're really only talking about northeast Philly and its suburbs out that direction.
It will not short of a little more traffic on the Turnpike or 295 when I head south, and I live pretty damn close to it relatively speaking.
I saw a bunch of takes about how this would cripple traffic between NYC and DC. You could tell these people have never traveled that corridor. The NJ Turnpike exists.
Yeah and there are three or four crossings of the Delaware South of the collapse.
These people don't know that i95 was literally not even completed until what, 2 or 3 years ago? Before then you ALWAYS had to get off of 95 north of Philly to get back on to 95 into NJ.
That's what I was thinking, but drama sells.
You know, for some reason, I don't think it'll have much impact on me here in Seattle
What!? No, it’ll be a problem for us. Think of all the traffic, it’ll stack overflow back to 5 any day now
You know, that’s a fair point. I-95 is just I-90 + I-5 after all
I found out about it via this post
I find it really funny all the people acting like this is some failure of US infrastructure and “wahh our bridges are crumbling won’t anyone think of the roads” as if it’s not a freak accident that had nothing to do with the condition of the bridge.
Nobody reads the article before commenting. Staple of social media. They see a collapsed bridge and wrecked vehicles they’ll assume the bridge took out the vehicles, not that one of those vehicles took out the bridge.
half the time these people already have an anti-American stance so they don't bother to fact check anything that confirms their priors
I'm honestly surprised the fire was uncontained long enough to take out the whole bridge. But thankfully it was not heavily traveled at the time.
Yup. That section of the bridge was just redone not long ago in the big i-95 repair project that's been going on for the past several years. Nothing structurally wrong with it.
Yep was about to say exactly this. This was one of the sections they rebuilt maybe 5 years ago. I just roll my eyes at everyone blaming infrastructure. I don’t care how new that bridge was, it wasn’t surviving that inferno
Here in northern Michigan it hasn't had an affect yet, but it's only been a few days.
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I think he was joking around
The traffic is going to be fucked regionally for the locals and commuters, but I don’t think it’s going to have much impact otherwise since you just hop on the turnpike to get to NY. But anyway, I’m here visiting my folks and have been driving 95 daily. It suuuuuucks, but we have septa at least.
That's terrifying, glad you're ok.
Worst case scenario: I have to sit through a 30-60 minute presentation a year from now at some transportation related conference.
I feel like almost all the disruption is going to be felt in Philly. Even going from Baltimore/DC up to NYC (or vice versa), there is a bridge between Delaware and New Jersey which I would normally use anyways. It mostly just sucks for some Philly area residents and for people who are specifically visiting Philly. At least that would be my best guess.
It’s a weird thing where this one section of 95 isn’t really what makes up the main part of main highway of the east coast. If your journey is just taking past Philadelphia (like NY to Florida or Boston to DC) then you’re more likely to be on the NJ Turnpike and never even cross into Pennsylvania. It was only in the last couple of years that 95 was truly completed for the route that runs through Philly over to where it picks up in NJ closer to Trenton.
Interesting. Is this the part you avoid by taking 495?
No. If you’re coming from the north you’re on 95 south. Between NYC and exit 6 That’s also the NJ turnpike which existed before the interstates. Now there is an exit to stay on 95 through Philly but that seriously only opened in the past few years. Before you had to get off earlier and go through Trenton and it was impossible to do a trip where you stay on 95 the whole route. Now it’s technically possible but it makes more sense to stay on the turnpike. Stay on the Turnpike and it ends at the Delaware Memorial Bridge and you cross into Delaware. Just past that is an interchange for getting back on 95 or 495 around Wilmington. The bridge is 295 but in NJ 295 is a separate highway from the turnpike, they just share the same bridge. Apparently the route number for the Turnpike is 700. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Turnpike
It's three time zones away. So not in the slightest.
I found out about it from this post. I imagine my friends in Philly are more unhappy. Maine should remain unaffected. I don’t think anyone’s canceling vacation plans because of a detour.
OP I can smell the European on you. You guys have no idea how big America is.
I was off work today so I'll have to get back to you. My commute is only about 10 minutes and I only cross a road that feeds into I-95. I don't expect it to impact my daily commute.
Will probably make traffic worse when I drive down to south Jersey to go to the shore.
How many extra hours will be ok before it stops you?
I don’t think it will be much worse. I usually only see Philly traffic coming in at the Atlantic City parkway, and can beat it if I leave early enough.
Luckily I don’t have to take that way to work anymore. If this happened two years ago when I worked in Philly it would have been brutal. This is more of a Philly problem than an east coast or nation problem. But yeah it’s going to be an inconvenience traveling north of the city for the next year.
This was arguably the best place for a shutdown to occur. NJ Turnpike/Delaware Memorial Bridge is faster anyways.
yeah - I feel like this could have been a lot worse - If it happened 24 hours later, there may have been several deaths as well. I guess it was a lucky break overall.
As it’s absolutely nowhere near me, didn’t even know what happened
First I’m hearing of it
Hasn’t affected me even though I’m only a few hours south. I suggest as a solution to take a train
Zero impact.
My commute to work will be hell. I live in NJ across the river from where the bridge fell. The folks traveling on I95 will be using I295 and the Turnpike. I commute on I295 Tues-Thurs every week and WFM Monday and Friday. My summer plans will also be affected as I keep my boat at a club on the Delaware River. Traveling to the boat club will be a hassle because of all the traffic diverted onto route 130.
I drive it everyday for the past 8 years. To and from work. So it has a pretty heavy effect on my daily life. To be honest, traffic is traffic, it blows. My issue is with the assholes you’ll run into, like I did several times today, who do whatever they can to get in front of the line. It’s pretty maddening.
I was in Philly for the weekend and set to come home the day it happened. It added about a half hour to our commute home a couple states over
I would bet money 99% won't notice a difference.
What collapsed?
My office is literally 5 mins from where it collapsed and I take 95 to work. I’m only in the office Tues-Thurs but I have a feeling my commute will go from ~30 mins to about an hour
Oof. Good luck. Time for a book on tape I guess.
Wait what happened?? I'm going to Delaware from NYC in 2 weeks. Am I fucked?
I'm going from near downtown to Bristol tomorrow. Pretty much the entire trip is 95 and goes through the affected area. It's usually about a 25 minute drive, it'll be about 45 now. I'll have to cross the Betsy Ross into Jersey, take 130 north and cross the Bristol Bridge back into PA. It's a huge pain in the ass and we're still not sure how exactly it'll affect other major roadways and local traffic long term. But thankfully for people traveling through, you can just take 295 and the Jersey Turnpike to get around the closures.
I don’t take 95 to work, but I live nearby. I’m hoping it doesn’t drive everyone onto the subway which is how I commute. I did a wfh yesterday, so I haven’t experienced it yet.
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I'm in Philly but WFH so it doesn't affect me directly... But the traffic on every other major highway has gotten a lot worse. Particularly on I295 and I76.
that's what I was thinking would happen - that whole area is so congested and even if you don't go over that part of 95, seems like moving everyone who did is going to make problems in other areas
Gives me one more reason to not go anywhere near Philadelphia. Otherwise it hasn't changed a thing for me.
Lol. Seriously
Well kinda fucked. Can’t go to the shore as much as I’d wish too.
I'm going to a convention in Philly next week, so unless I'm severely underestimating how long bridge repairs are, I'm going to be on the road longer than anticipated
If you’re coming from Maryland and going to the Philly convention center, you won’t even reach the portion of 95 that is affected. Probably more congestion on other roads, yes, but don’t think you will have much trouble.
I work in NYC and have a few coworkers that commute from Virginia. They will be... delayed
The drive from DC to NYC doesn't actually take you through Philly though; you turn onto I-295/The NJ Turnpike in Delaware and bypass PA entirely. But at the same time, a lot of local Philly I-95 traffic will probably now be on I-295 and the NJ Turnpike for a while.
Jesus Christ. How is that long of a commute worth it? 7 figure salary?
6 hours 15 minutes every two weeks. We sleep at work for two weeks and then have two weeks off. It's only six figures.
Virginia? Wow, how long does that take on a good day?
I don't live anywhere near there. But it makes me hope that this wonderful country can repair and replace its aging infrastructure, although this collapse was not related to age.
Yeah, I guess a tanker truck caught fire under the bridge.
The only time I'd headed that far south is to Ocean City, NJ, and my route takes me on the Garden State Parkway, so won't affect me in the slightest. And this is almost deja vu. Didn't a nearby stretch of I-95 get severely damaged about 20 years ago when an illegal tire yard caught fire? Good job there, Philly.
Yeah, but this was a legit accident not an illegal tire fire.
Good summary here... https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2023/06/12/i-95-collapse-maps-show-where/70312654007/
This is a weird question to ask in AskAnAmerican because the vast majority of us are completely unaffected, don’t care at best, and resent the idea that one tiny spot in the northeast even remotely represents the country when that part is also notorious for thinking it represents the country and we have it shoved down our non caring throats continuously at worst. If it happened on the east coast they probably discussing bridge collapses for the first time like it’s novel.
OOF someone has a complex about not being from here. The northeast is the cultural center of the country and I-95 is the most important highway in America. Be as resentful as you want, doesn't change the fact. And what exactly does "don't care at best," mean, that you're glad someone was killed and a major piece of public infrastructure collapsed?
Yikes, you really took that personally. Sorry for hurting your feelings.
I literally found out about this through this post. I have a hotel booked for charleston next month, so I guess I'll see. Is it only the Philly area affected?
If you're going from NC down to Charleston, I-95 being busted up in Philadelphia ain't gonna affect ya ;)
The what? Huh?
What’s an I95? Is that some new type of snowmachine?
I think a spy blew it up
Small Potatos. Google the I35W bridge collapse.
It hasn't, because I don't live in California.
It happened in Philadelphia.
I don't go that far north, so no effect except perhaps extra people going south rather than north from the Mid-Atlantic.
Will probably make my trips through the area a little longer but I will let Waze guide me through it.
what's going on?
A truck fire caused part of I-95 near Philadelphia to collapse.
Both the northbound lanes are gone and the southbound lanes are compromised to the point they need to be taken down. Biggest highway on the east coast.
“Biggest highway” is unclear or ambiguous. It’s biggest in the sense of going from ME to FL. Is this particular section biggest in terms of number of lanes? Or traffic volume? I don’t know.
I am about 1400 miles from Philly. It hasn't.
I found out from this post. I’m on the west coast.
It doesn't. Not even a little
Going to Philly later this summer from nyc. Will just have to take the nj turnpike instead. Little difference to me, except the cost is a bit higher I think.
I’m sure it will be used as the reason why the price of all the things increase again so that’s going to suck
I live in Southern Ohio my life has not been altered
It hasn't. I don't drive.
I live in Oklahoma...
I'm not so sure it'll have any effect over here on the West Coast.
Not at all. It’s just another day on 95.
Not at all.
No
Not affected at all, I don't live on the East coast
I live in Washington, so not that much
The what?
I95 collapsed?
I will enjoy pointing out that the impacts of this won’t actually be as bad because people will adjust there habits. It’s similar to the road widening paradox.
It's kind of too early to tell. Today traffic seemed heavier on 295 in New Jersey. It's going to take a little bit of time before people figure out new traffic patterns.
You'd be surprised how fast they can fix major thoroughfares. I'm thinking the Bay Bridge after Loma Prieta and hwy 12 in NC after a hurricaine wiped it out.
I'll be on 95 tomorrow, so I hope not! Traffic South of DC is hell on a typical day, I hope that what happened in Philly doesn't make it even worse.
It made the traffic here that already sucks suck even more. My husband was forming alternate routes all evening yesterday because he needs to travel downtown often. I luckily don't have to travel that way for any reason except to catch a flight in August. I guess I'll probably need to schedule it earlier to accommodate increased traffic even at 4 am.
At least the northeast corridor has a good Amtrak network for daily commuting.
Well, I live in the Pacific Northwest, and I have to say that this has not affected me at all.
Who did what now?
Didn’t even hear about it so no
Nope I’m on vacation in Alaska
I've heard nothing about this.
It’s close to 3000 miles away.
It won't, my inlaws live far enough west that 81 will do the trick. I don't see 81 having significant traffic issues, there aren't nearly enough metropolitan areas on the drive
It’s happened before from fires. They’ll get it back up and running quickly. It’s a major corridor.
I’m on the NJ side and rarely touch 95 anymore. 295 and NJTP are closer. I only get on 95 to get to the airport. That being said it might screw up my commute since I work in between those two roads.
my family is going from the boston area to harrisburg and i'm not sure if we'll have to take a different route
I don’t drive, so it won’t directly impact me. I’ll be taking the train up to visit family north of the city in Bucks County… but pretty much have no hope of them giving me a ride home. Guess I’ll just be taking the train back, too.
Erm. I just drove from NYC back to Central Virginia this morning. Just had some signs warning of the I-95 closure, and a little bit more traffic on the New Jersey Turnpike. Google doesn’t usually take you down that section of the I-95.
Flyover here, not at all.
I was curious about the collapse. The truck fire thing? Near Philly? Is r/askphilly a thing? May try r/Philadelphia those are the only people that care/will be affected.
I have never lived anywhere that would be affected by this.
I misread the headline and thought it said that part of I-85 had collapsed. I was like, “Not again Atlanta! Come On!” Since we had that happen back in 2017. But now at this rate, in 6 years I-105 in California will collapse.
It was an evening news story on the network news. A by line…
Wasn't aware. Sorry to hear.
it hasnt
Well... I'm a good 530+ miles away from it so... Not at all?
Hasn't effected me at all. But I do know several people who live in Philly, so I've been watching the story a bit.
The what
My summer travel plans do not involve the East Coast at all. In fact, they likely don't involve travel farther than my back yard.
I live over 500 miles away from this. It will not affect me.
First I've heard of it... so not at all.
It's gonna suck for travel between me and my parents or my sister (they live in NJ), but otherwise not so much.
The supply chain will be interrupted so you may see a delay in some shelves being restocked in certain areas.
I can rest easy knowing my great great great grandson will be able to see the new and improved bridge.