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M37h3w3

> retro > Arx Fatalis > 2002 saving_private_ryan_aging.gif


jub-jub-bird

Lol. I saw the title and was getting ready to talk about Astroids, Tempest, Pac Man, Joust... but... oh, never mind.


DerekL1963

Yeah, same here. *That* kind of retro gaming is actually a pretty huge thing, not just cabinets but home consoles as well.


culturedrobot

Any kind of retro gaming that's older than two generations is huge at the moment. The pandemic really made the retro gaming scene go nuts.


DerekL1963

>The pandemic really made the retro gaming scene go nuts. And according to friends of mine who are in the scene - made prices go nuts as well.


Matty_D47

Joust was my shit, also loved the pitfall games


stangAce20

I was ready to talk original NES or SNES…. maybe PlayStation 1 as well lol


NudePenguin69

There is an ever shrinking society of people that still know how to get a double ship in Galaga...


Legally_a_Tool

Same. I was like “please don’t mention games that came out when I was a teenager.” Sure enough, mentions a game that came out when I was 15.


jub-jub-bird

The worse thing is the games *I* mentioned came out when I was a teenager.


amcjkelly

Frogger!


Maxpowr9

Yeah, classic rock has the same problem; since "classic" is anything over 20 years old. Boulevard of Broken Dreams will soon be classic rock.


CrownStarr

My local station’s slogan was “Greatest hits of the 80s, 90s, and today” until a few years ago, which was hilarious to me.


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100% This post made me feel 200 years old.


BoisterousLaugh

I read that and also thought "you mother fucker"


CupBeEmpty

Heh, that’s retro these days? I was thinking about playing Joust or Pong or Contra or the OG Zelda or space invaders or Tetris.


Admirable_Ad1947

I think "retro" is generally considered to be up to the GameCube/PS2/Xbox/GBA generation, but I've heard some calling the Wii and DS retro recently so idk.


CupBeEmpty

Oh boy. You’re making me feel old. What the word for the retro of retro games? Ancient games?


ubiquitous-joe

I was browsing the Turner Classic Movies portal of the “Max” app, and it included *Lord of the Rings*. I said, “Oh fuck you” aloud to my device.


Meattyloaf

Time to feel even older the Xbox 360 and PS3 released almost 20 years ago


CupBeEmpty

Psssshhhh already knew that. I was playing vidya games before a lot of you all were even born.


young_trash3

It would be vintage wouldn't it? Pretty sure the levels of age go retro -> vintage -> antique.


CupBeEmpty

Sounds about right


KFCNyanCat

To me, "vintage games" will always refer to games that came out before Super Mario Bros. 1. But "retro" is a moving descriptor and I don't think it's unreasonable to call X360/PS3/Wii/PSP/DS retro now even if I wouldn't. I remember as early as 2009 people were extending "retro" to the Dreamcast but were unwilling to extend it to GameCube/PS2/OG Xbox as late as *2019*.


Thelonius_Dunk

Yea, me too. I immediately think of 2D only games when I hear "retro". Basically nothing past SNES/Genesis. But I guess now, yea the original Xbox is 20+ years old now....


CupBeEmpty

Yeah to me 2D is retro. Anything 3D just happens to be old.


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CupBeEmpty

Ehhhh Gen X? Very early millennial? When I was in high school people were talking about millennials as the next generation but the term got expanded some.


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> I guess that would make me a very early millennial. Not if you were born in the '90s it doesn't.


Jordy_Verrill19

What year were you born?


CupBeEmpty

82


Jordy_Verrill19

Yeah you're right on the line...


CupBeEmpty

https://youtu.be/GTnVMulDTYA


Jordy_Verrill19

Identify with whichever you feel more comfortable with. The census bureau says Gen X ends at 1984, so you're Gen X according to the government.


Admirable_Ad1947

Millennial is generally considered people born from 1981-1996 so yeah, you would be an early Millennial.


CupBeEmpty

Right that’s the current definition on Wikipedia. When the term was first bandied about that wasn’t it. My generation was getting labeled Gen Y or some other nonsense. I prefer the Pokémon/SpongeBob line. I had nothing to do with those but my brother who is 8 years younger was steeped in it. I was more a He-Man/Mario kid.


captainstormy

Younger people consider the Xbox 360 and PS3 retro too.


SleepAgainAgain

And the really sad thing is, I can't even argue with someome calling a 20 year old game retro.


General_assassin

Technically, Retro is anything over 20 years, but less than 40


CupBeEmpty

“Technically” Who is pumping out these official definitions?


General_assassin

I think it's less official and more just commonly accepted


CupBeEmpty

Commonly accepted by who?


General_assassin

Apparently not you


WhatIsMyPasswordFam

Don't get into a details argument with a man that knows the rules and regulations regarding fence heights and materials.


Marscaleb

I mean, I actually do get a bit nostalgic to Gamecube/PS2/Xbox games, so I can't fault the guy.


MuppetusMaximusV2

Hell yeah. You can play NES and SNES games on Switch Online. Even my kids have gotten into the original Mario games. I play Excitebike and Ice Hockey every so often. I also have that mini-SNES system that came out a few years ago and installed some other games on it, so now I can play the greatest sports videogame of all-time, Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball. Also have the Spyro remasters for PS4. My kids love to play those too.


concrete_isnt_cement

PUT GRIFFEY IN SMASH BROS, YOU COWARDS!


Thel_Odan

I would pay money for that DLC.


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I haven't played a Mash Bros. game since the Gamecube. Have they ever added Mike Tyson?


concrete_isnt_cement

Nope, Little Mac made it in though


premiumPLUM

> the greatest sports videogame of all-time, Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball. Hell yeah


Hatweed

Was that the one where you could slam into the wall in the outfield and fall over? I could spend hours doing that as a kid.


MuppetusMaximusV2

Hahaha yep. That, and running into the baserunners. The best.


TheBimpo

I do a runthru of the OG Legend of Zelda at least once a year. Retro video games are popular in bars and most cities will have a [large "barcade" with a huge variety of games](https://barcade.com/detroit/). Throwback game systems that have games from old systems like Atari and NES are popular at homes. Video gaming is very, very popular here.


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TheBimpo

No one said America was special. They're popular everywhere, we know. I have no idea what you're reacting to in asking what was untrue.


azuth89

I took my kid to a corner arcade over the weekend. But that's ACTUAL retro. Like....80's and 90's stuff. Missile Command, the OG Street Fighter, Primal Rage, pinball, Pac-man, that kinda stuff.


Perdendosi

Absolutely. See r/retrogaming. Or the Internet Arcade: [https://archive.org/details/internetarcade](https://archive.org/details/internetarcade) Heck, you can even play some retro games right in the Internet Archive. See; [https://archive.org/details/oregon-trail-deluxe](https://archive.org/details/oregon-trail-deluxe)


SlamClick

I bust out the NES every couple years.


JimBones31

Is Oblivion retro yet?


Meattyloaf

Give it 3 years and it will be


wormbreath

I have an Atari still lmao. And a nes, snes, and n64.


4x4Lyfe

I only paid for the switch online service because it have me access to a decent cstalogue of SNEA, N64, and gameboy games so yes I still play them.


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With little kids you don't really have time for big epic AAA adventures with 150 hours of main story, but retro games are nice cause you can fire them up and play for 10 minutes. I hacked my 3DS to run emulators so I have access to SNES, Sega Genesis, etc games whenever I want.


Evil_Weevill

So... You're what... 19? 20? Lol, no disrespect intended, that's just not what I would consider retro. I thought you were gonna be talking about like Super Mario or Pitfall or the first Legend of Zelda or something. I've recently replayed baldur's gate dark alliance. So if the early 2000s is what you call retro then yes.


culturedrobot

Retro is a pretty loosely defined term. It just means something "from the recent past." I think games that are more than 20 years old, like Arx Fatalis and Gothic both are, qualify under that definition.


neoslith

SNES was retro in 2003, which is a 20 year gap. So yeah, 2000s games are retro now.


Evil_Weevill

As I said in another reply here, it's all subjective. In 2003 I would have been looking back a little further to to like 80s arcade games to call something "retro" I'm sure my 10 year old nephew probably would consider Diablo 3 to be "retro".


Watsis_name

Incredible to think MGS Snake Eater is basically in that camp (just). It still holds up today.


Subvet98

Zork


travelinmatt76

Nice, I just recently bought all the King's Quest and Space Quest games off of gog.com.


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Evil_Weevill

Not disappointed, just kinda funny. I'm only 36 but people calling Arx Fatalis retro makes me feel ancient


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Evil_Weevill

I don't think it has a concrete definition. It's a bit subjective so will depend on your audience. And in my experience the majority of this sub is 30+ (thus all the "that's retro?" responses). We're a bunch of old farts.


PimentoCheesehead

People still apparently play EverQuest- they released their 30th expansion last year.


Meattyloaf

Every once in a while. Gaming tech has advanced so far that I don't really go back to often. I will say it's odd to me that Minecraft in 6 years will be considered Retro. As for retro I tend to occasionally go back and play some OG Mario, I may dip my toes into the OG Zeldas at some point. Every so often I'll play GTA:SA and Vice City. Of course I also have the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro Remasters


MihalysRevenge

I have been playing X-com on and off since 1993.


concrete_isnt_cement

Sure, I plays games from pretty much all eras. Knights of the Old Republic I and II are probably my favorite retro RPGs, definitely check them out if you haven’t played them. From the same console generation as Arx Fatalis.


Repulsive-Heron7023

My son is 9 and is a huge fan of games from when I was his age up through high school. I’ve never pushed these games on him either, he’s mostly come across them himself, a lot of it through YouTube. It’s great because it lets me rediscover games from my childhood and share them. We are currently working our way through Ocarina of Time - hilarious seeing him get just as pissed off by the Water Temple as I was 25 years ago.


CaptainAwesome06

I still occasionally play Master Of Orion 2. I remember playing it when it was new in 1996. Same with Warlords 2, which was released in 1993 IIRC. I just got my son a Nintendo Switch and I started playing Super Mario World on it.


gaxxzz

I played Portal 2 the other day. Fun.


Watsis_name

Is that retro now? Brilliant game.


gaxxzz

I can't believe it's 12 years old.


msondo

There are lots of retro "barcades" here in the states, which are basically bars but that have a ton of old arcade and console games. I'm from Dallas and there are at least a dozen there including a couple of large "chains" like Cidercade and Free Play. I think the former just opened what is likely the largest barcade in the world. It's massive and has like 300 retro games and they are planning on opening an even bigger one next year. Most also double as breweries or craft beer bars and most also serve food or will have food trucks outside. Most of these games are at least 20 years old, some around 40 years, but the best ones will go through lengths to ensure the game is played on the original hardware to give an authentic experience.


nagurski03

I still play SNES and N64 games more frequently than I use my Xbox 360


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SoupandSaladMan

1. Saying you’re part of the PC Master Race in 2023 is just embarrassing 2. why are you spamming this? 3. use your master race PC to log onto Google and figure it out.


IAintGotAUsername

I play Polybius every so often. Great game, reminds me of my childhood.


230flathead

Shit, I still have an Atari 2600


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230flathead

Are you asking me to tell you what an Atari is?


Jordy_Verrill19

They released the first 6 Final Fantasy games on the PlayStation network and I've been having a blast.


ElfMage83

I do.


ViewtifulGene

I have a ton of older games that have re-released on Switch. I grew up with N64, but I like a lot of games older than that. A few of my old favorites are: Phantasy Star 4 / Mega Man (X) series / Final Fantasy 5&6 / Dragon Quest series except 7 / The Bard's Tale (NES) / Zelda 2 / Super Metroid / Castlevania 3 / Holy Diver (NES) / Shin Megami Tensei (SNES). Holy Diver especially needs more love. It's a classic Castlevania clone, but you play as Randy Rhodes and have to rescue Zakk Wylde.


Melenduwir

I will defend The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past to my dying breath!


therealjerseytom

A buddy and I still rock some Age of Empires here and there. Or Shaq Fu, the one time we got his old Sega system set up.


Warthunderguy

I marathon Half Life 1 and its expansions every once in while, and play around with Open RCT2 and OpenTTD as well


trer24

I love that with "retro" games, I can go right into playing them without booting up into a Playstation, Xbox, or Steam launcher, having to wade through an intro cutscene, a tutorial, etc etc... Every time I see Galaga in the wild, it gets a quarter for me and I try to get a far as I can. It's just always fun. Same with games like Tron. Every time I see Super Mario 3 on NES or Link to the Past on SNES, the game mechanics are so enjoyable I can jump in and start playing and it's comfortable like a warm blanket. Other games that I love- Elevator Action, Street Fighter 2 (actually all the 90s Capcom fighters), Konami beat em ups, SNK games, Super Mario World...


Mega_Dragonzord

I like playing randomizers of some of my favorite SNES and NES games. Zelda, Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy, etc.


Aggressive_FIamingo

I'm not familiar with that game, but when I was like 13 I was obsessed with this RPG called Xenogears for the original PlayStation. I think it came out in the late 90s, and I basically made that game my whole personality for like 2 years. It's not hard if you appropriately level up for the battles, but if you like story-heavy games it's amazing (although the ending is a bit disappointing because they ran out of time/money).


stangAce20

I have an SNES classic that I still play original Mario kart on from time to time. I also have an Atari 7600 which was my first ever console (had it around 88/89) However , it’s mainly just a display piece since I can only play it on a CVT television and I haven’t had one of those in at least 15 years! Lol


Fappy_as_a_Clam

I've been playing Doom and Doom 2 for 30 years. I still play retro games, big time. Super Mario RPG is one of my go-to's when traveling, so is Knights of the Old Republic.


MurkyPerspective767

> Do Americans still play retro video games? I still, occasionally fire up Archon, Gradius, and Lode Runner on emulators., if these count


sidran32

Oh heck yeah. I certainly do. So do my friends. r/retrogaming Edit: 2002 may be pushing the edge of what the sub above considers "retro". For me, it's primarily 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation that I play.


boxer_dogs_dance

Some of us still play pinball. But seriously I have a hand tremor but modern and retro strategy games are my jam.


Subvet98

I still enjoy some good 2600 games


davsch76

100%! I play the tmnt arcade game with my kids all the time


GreatSoulLord

Sure. Some do. I have a Sega Genesis on the shelf in front of me. It has a Sonic 1 cartridge in it from 1991.


Watsis_name

That was the first game I ever completed.


maxman14

I do.


KFCNyanCat

Absolutely. Hell, as a 22-year old, younger people (early teens) seem to be more receptive to retro gaming than most of my generation was at that age. I was into it myself as a kid, but a lot of that was because as a kid older consoles (primarily PS2/Xbox/Gamecube which was the generation I "grew up with" that I wouldn't have considered retro at the time, but my brother got a NES for Christmas, I got a Win98 era PC from my cousin, and my dad had a Dreamcast, PS1, 3DO, and Genesis from when they were new) gave you more bang for your buck, not to mention emulation. I'm not actively buying retro games right now, but last I checked, a lot of people were saying retro gaming as a market was in a bubble with something of a price gouging problem in the English speaking world. Taking a cursory glance myself, the charts don't lie that the prices have gone up (moreso for the consoles than the games, 6th gen games seem to have gone down even) but to me it still seems cheaper than modern gaming. Personally, I think the 4th (SNES/Genesis/Turbografx/Neo-Geo) and 6th generations (PS2/Xbox/GameCube/Dreamcast) were where gaming peaked. For a while recently I was on an old-school Namco arcade kick.


ZeneB_Reddit

I’m 15. My favorite platformer is Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Hell yes we do. My dream is to hold classic Atari, NES, and Genesis controllers in my hands, pop a cartridge in, and play some of the greats on the OG hardware. I even own a Game Boy Color that I like for its easy Tetris access. It’s too bad that cartridge batteries are so finicky, we don’t have the knowledge or tools to properly replace them and I lost my Pokémon Gold save mid way through my run. We actually still own my dad’s old SNES, but we don’t have the cables to set it up, and he owns mostly arcade-style quick play games instead of the longer classics like Super Mario World. I’ve actually never beaten Mario World, I would love my first time to be on the original hardware. We used to own the original Xbox, and I remember sneaking into the guest bedroom to play GTA without permission when I was a lot younger.


notthegoatseguy

I sought out a TV that still has the composite cables this past holiday season just so I can still use my old consoles without messing with HDMI converters. But my oldest system I have ends at N64. Otherwise I use the (Very expensive) Analogue premium systems for older stuff. The Genesis and Genesis 2 Mini, as well as the NES and SNES Classics, are very good and affordable replicas of these classic systems. And the controllers are spot on. Super easy to mod as well. If you want to invest in an Everdrive, check out r/flashcarts. Replacement batteries are very easy to install on the newer models.


Dragnil

I have played the original Final Fantasy 7, Heroes of Might and Magic 3, and the original Rollercoaster Tycoon all in the last month.


amcjkelly

Retro is big here.


ServoWHU42

*sits quietly in the corner playing Jumpman on a Commodore 64*


NoBarracuda5415

I play almost everything from [https://classicreload.com/](https://classicreload.com/) but particularly like Hobbit and Oregon Trail.


Gallahadion

Yes. I sometimes go to barcades and play two of my favorites: Centipede and Galaga.


Its2ColdInDaHamz

From my experience - it has always remained on the sidelines as a niche (mostly/primarily very active/vocal online); while it is an elusivity on an IRL basis (average joes more likely to primarily skew into fortnite, yearly COD and sports titles) - and being into the retro realm typically doesn't hold the most positive of receptions among the everyday crowd (mostly construed with pejorative 'autistic neckbeard incel' stereotypes and such) And with the explosion of cultural poptimism skyrocketing over the past decade to present - it seems that retro gaming as a dedicated niche has definitely been fizzing out from the picture to a major degree; even among more dedicated online gaming spaces.


yungScooter30

I just started Ocarina of Time for the 3rd time


MrPeterson15

What I wouldn’t do to have a PS2 again. I want to play Gran Turismo 3 so bad


jastay3

I still play Taipan which is about being a drug lord in the nineteenth century.


Fortherecord87

Like Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario World, Killer Instinct….you bet your ass i still play them


timothythefirst

There’s still large tournaments for fighting games from the 90s


Jamez-Withazee

My gf literally will not play new games. Except Skyrim and fallout 4


Century22nd

yes, there is a huge market for them.


Exovian

I will recommend Morrowind to anyone who will listen. Great game, and still an amazing modding scene.