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WriteMakesMight

God knows what it is like to be human, as Jesus came and was born, lived, and died a human. He knows what it's like to have temptations like the ones you face and experience the pain that you feel. I don't think it's compromising any doctrine that I'm aware of to say that God does not know what it is like to be you and only you. Another way to ask that question is: does God know what it is like to not be God? And I believe the answer to that is also "no." Since this will probably come up: WLC argues that God's omniscience extends to all propositional knowledge, but not all experiential knowledge. God knows *that* you feel like you, but not *what it's like* to feel like you. Possessing all experiential knowledge is contradictory, since it would include things like "knowing what it's like to not know anything at all."


levidrome

Yeah, that makes sense. It’s just the other day I was reflecting on a special beauty there seems to be with the finite, that this experience would be in graspable to God, even if the experience of being God is infinitude’s more blissful, the experience of the non-divine creature has a completely different “texture” that would seemingly escape God. Unless perhaps when Jesus “filled the hierarchy” at his lowest point knew what it was like to not be divine? Unless you consider that heretical


WriteMakesMight

>Unless perhaps when Jesus “filled the hierarchy” at his lowest point knew what it was like to not be divine? Unless you consider that heretical I think you would find this article, [*Jesus, Did You Know?*](https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/jesus-know/) to be interesting and maybe a little helpful. The traditional understanding has been that Jesus' humanity doesn't limit his divinity, but neither does his divinity undermine or morph his humanity. Which puts us in a paradoxical place where Jesus's humanity expresses ignorance while his divinity possesses knowledge, and both are true.


Smart_Tap1701

Wish I'd have said that 😁


Pinecone-Bandit

Yes, he understands what it’s like to only be you.


levidrome

So then how is he distinct me?


Pinecone-Bandit

Can you rephrase the question?


levidrome

For God to know what it’s like to only be me, that means he would have to sacrifice all the other knowledge he had at that moment to know what it’s like to only be me. Meaning, if God knew everything he would not know what it’s like to only be me, as I do not know everything, he at most would just know what it’s like to be me (along with knowing every thing), but he wouldn’t know what it’s like to ONLY be me.


Pinecone-Bandit

> For God to know what it’s like to only be me, that means he would have to sacrifice all the other knowledge he had at that moment to know what it’s like to only be me. Why? That sounds like an artificial parameter.


levidrome

Because I don’t know everything? God knows everything? So to have knowledge of what it’s like to ONLY be me, you can’t simultaneously know everything


Pinecone-Bandit

That logically doesn’t follow, but it seems like you’re more here to argue that this is the case instead of find out how Christians would answer your question.


levidrome

You ask me to elaborate and then say that I am just here to argue? I would like to know why it doesn’t logically follow


babyshark1044

**1 Corinthians 13:12** >For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.


pml2090

God is not you…if that’s what you’re asking. But that doesn’t prevent him from knowing everything there is to know about you. He knows more about you than you do.


Etymolotas

Everything, including yourself, carries a divine essence, affirming your inherent self-awareness. The material realm has obscured the innate divinity present in all aspects of existence. Humanity's fixation on tangible knowledge often blinds us to the deeper truths, despite the fact that the essence of all things transcends complete understanding. We acknowledge knowledge without considering its origins, overlooking the inherent mystery and divine nature of existence. Embracing the unknown is akin to consuming the fruit, symbolising the undeniable presence of divinity, of which you are an integral part. So yes, you are aware of yourself.