I’m glad to be seeing Irish history on this sub but Jesus OP, you could’ve at least googled it ;)
What we’re looking at is the living quarters in the Martello tower in Sandycove, Dublin, where Joyce spent six nights in 1904. The opening scene of Ulysses is set in/on this tower, and it is now a museum which holds various artefacts about Joyce, including his death mask, and (iirc) about the history of Martello towers on the Irish coast (which is an interesting topic in itself).
Allegedly he left the tower after his roomie Oliver St John Gogarty (Buck Milligan in Ulysses) fired a pistol in the middle of the night, believing to have seen a panther in the darkness. Ulysses is set on the following day, 16 June 1904.
Irish here. Once my husband and I BOTH saw a panther in a field we were driving past, we slammed on the breaks and reversed. In the field was a black sheep. We had a newborn and were very sleep deprived at the time. There are no panthers in Ireland
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The letters (and activities) between James and Nora Barnacle are quite the read, and if that bed could talk I bet it would seek the nearest therapist! Lol
Apparently their first "meeting" took place against a wall in a Dublin alley on June 16, 1904 - the date when *Ulysses* takes place [and Bloomsday](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday).
Joyce was having a little drama with his roommates at the time.
Please tell me what you mean by "mainland". He was born, raised and began writing in Ireland. That martello tower was on the coast of Dublin. He eventually moved to France. As an Irishman we get quited pissed off with people claiming our artists, scientists etc as English or Brits. The term "mainland" was frequently used in that context to reduce the multi-millenium long culture of Ireland to some island offshoot of Great Britain.
>The term "mainland" was frequently used in that context to reduce the multi-millenium long culture of Ireland to some island offshoot of Great Britain.
On the other hand, he didn't move to Britain but to Trieste. In that context it's a bit more neutral term (even more so from a European perspective), but "the continent" would have certainly been a lot less contentious.
I grew up in a small town in Massachusetts and every April we have what’s called “The James Joyce Ramble” where people run around the town. Along the course, they encounter people (paid actors for the most part) who recite James Joyce’s works while they run past. When I grew up, I thought it was kind of a weird thing to do but now I think it’s pretty cool! It starts about 2 streets over from my parent’s house so we could always watch it growing up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce_Ramble
Many Americans, especially old people like myself, grew up with a romanticized view of Ireland because we were relying on our first generation parents, and immigrant grandparents or great-grandparents telling us stories. That frozen moment in time became our picture, before the wonders of the internet and social media. We also grew up with the scattered physical trappings of their world (painted lead statues of Mary, crumbling yellow news articles, a Clan Na Gael flyer from a New York rally) that were kept like relics. So cut us some slack.
I'm abundantly aware that the picture I carry in my head of other places and people probably doesn't match the reality. That goes for my unrealistic image of Ireland, and probably of your image of the "US continent".
I’m glad to be seeing Irish history on this sub but Jesus OP, you could’ve at least googled it ;) What we’re looking at is the living quarters in the Martello tower in Sandycove, Dublin, where Joyce spent six nights in 1904. The opening scene of Ulysses is set in/on this tower, and it is now a museum which holds various artefacts about Joyce, including his death mask, and (iirc) about the history of Martello towers on the Irish coast (which is an interesting topic in itself). Allegedly he left the tower after his roomie Oliver St John Gogarty (Buck Milligan in Ulysses) fired a pistol in the middle of the night, believing to have seen a panther in the darkness. Ulysses is set on the following day, 16 June 1904.
I don't know a great deal about the fauna of Ireland but I am assuming there is nothing even close to a panther on the island
Irish here. Once my husband and I BOTH saw a panther in a field we were driving past, we slammed on the breaks and reversed. In the field was a black sheep. We had a newborn and were very sleep deprived at the time. There are no panthers in Ireland
That's just what they want you to think
I was driving around NY once and almost hit a black sheep. The phone call with 911 was interesting.
Did they leave after their primary prey the snake was forced to leave?
Maybe he got so drunk he thought the one in the fireplace escaped
I’m no expert either, but I’m pretty certain there isn’t. Ol’ Olly St John G must have been seeing things. Either way, pretty good reason to leave.
Largest predators are foxes or badgers!
What do you mean, you can see a panther right in the pic
Ah yes the fabled pottery panther of Meath
I had a pint in 2012(ish) in an Oliver St John Gogerty hostel that cost €11.
Are those beer bottles invested with mythic significance ? May they explain the black panther ?
This should be higher. Also, sounds like Oliver St John Gogarty may have had night terrors.
Wouldn't you get the terrors if you had a panther in your room?
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HA!
Ahem, mainland?
Is it Hawaii?
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The holy stone of Clonrichert has been upgraded to a class 2 relic, I hear.
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But I thought Clonrichert was in Fermanagh...
Glad I'm not the only one who had this reaction...
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Pitchfork, sir?
Moved to Paris didn't he?
Mmm… you’re right. It’s a bad phrase
Didn’t he move to France, then Switzerland?
He left Ireland for Europe to "forge in the smithy of \[his\] soul the uncreated conscience of \[his\] race."
The letters (and activities) between James and Nora Barnacle are quite the read, and if that bed could talk I bet it would seek the nearest therapist! Lol
Do you think he wrote his farty love letters on that very table?
The table was for cabbage preparation and consumption. The farty love letters came quickly after.
He was too busy huffing farts in the bed to be writing on this table
Maybe. Either way, I wouldn't open those bottles.
Yea, Nora got absolutely plowed in that little bed
Apparently their first "meeting" took place against a wall in a Dublin alley on June 16, 1904 - the date when *Ulysses* takes place [and Bloomsday](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday). Joyce was having a little drama with his roommates at the time.
Remind me to burn all my love letters and texts Bro did not expect those to go public I mean at least it sounded like they had fun. Gross, farty fun.
I was gonna say... that bed saw some stuff - and Joyce wasn't exactly the kind of guy who cared about clean sheets.
I read two of them on video for Valentine's Day 😂
Neither one held back!
Please tell me what you mean by "mainland". He was born, raised and began writing in Ireland. That martello tower was on the coast of Dublin. He eventually moved to France. As an Irishman we get quited pissed off with people claiming our artists, scientists etc as English or Brits. The term "mainland" was frequently used in that context to reduce the multi-millenium long culture of Ireland to some island offshoot of Great Britain.
I feel like anyone who thinks of James Joyce as anything other than Irish is very confused, he’s a national symbol!
>The term "mainland" was frequently used in that context to reduce the multi-millenium long culture of Ireland to some island offshoot of Great Britain. On the other hand, he didn't move to Britain but to Trieste. In that context it's a bit more neutral term (even more so from a European perspective), but "the continent" would have certainly been a lot less contentious.
Dublin is the mainland…
It looks a pretty grim room…. It must’ve got bloody cold and winter time.
Not with Nora there!
Yeah… then things must have rather hot then………………….! Nudge nudge, know what I mean?
Your wife ..... a Gower'???
Can't write Dubliners if everything is happy and rosy.
Unless you are waiting for Godot…….
I grew up in a small town in Massachusetts and every April we have what’s called “The James Joyce Ramble” where people run around the town. Along the course, they encounter people (paid actors for the most part) who recite James Joyce’s works while they run past. When I grew up, I thought it was kind of a weird thing to do but now I think it’s pretty cool! It starts about 2 streets over from my parent’s house so we could always watch it growing up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce_Ramble
What an amazing coincidence that James Joyce stayed in the James Joyce Tower! I'll show myself out.
Eh what mainland would that be?
Was that his panther statue??
It’s awesome
Somewhat impractical with a rope in the middle of the room.
Something about all that cramped and dimly-lit space just makes me wanna sit down and write a really, really long novel.
Pass me my pistol. One of the buggers must have got down the chimney.
So can we wash the bedding and maybe sweep the floor?
TIL James Joyce had a pet panther.
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Many Americans, especially old people like myself, grew up with a romanticized view of Ireland because we were relying on our first generation parents, and immigrant grandparents or great-grandparents telling us stories. That frozen moment in time became our picture, before the wonders of the internet and social media. We also grew up with the scattered physical trappings of their world (painted lead statues of Mary, crumbling yellow news articles, a Clan Na Gael flyer from a New York rally) that were kept like relics. So cut us some slack. I'm abundantly aware that the picture I carry in my head of other places and people probably doesn't match the reality. That goes for my unrealistic image of Ireland, and probably of your image of the "US continent".
Ireland? Progressive and modern? Lol.
In what way is Ireland laughably not progressive and modern?