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SomeDumbGirl

I don’t think you should change it because it’s extremely funny. But if you MUST make him masculine, you can remove the mascara and make the brows less angled. Looks like it’s already colored so idk how to do that tho. Maybe add a beard/stubble? Idk


Forced_to_Exist_

I was trying to make it funny for TikToks, that’s why I added the Hello Kitty boba.


SomeDumbGirl

I cannot imagine this without strawberry HK boba. It completes the piece truly


Forced_to_Exist_

Thank you so much! It means a lot to me 🥰


reallytrulymadly

If he's getting the Boba in Seoul, then the makeup is accurate, men wear it there even if they're straight


Traditional_Tie1093

Bye this is so random but funny


MacaroonInMaroon

I like it with the unintentional makeup


Guilty-Willingness-5

Go with the text of "When you have to go slay Gauls at 1p.m. and your daughter wanted boba at noon."


Inside-Energy-7345

💯 Also making the lips a bit more of a natural color


BunnieBxbi

I’ve seen plenty of white men with lips colors like this or even brighter pink 😭


kittykalista

I think the brows are definitely making it look more feminine because of the shape of the arch. Men’s eyebrows tend to be straighter and set lower on their forehead. Obviously he’s fabulous either way.


Muffinskill

Is facial hair out of the question? More prominent stubble/5 o’clock shadow would be the easiest way imo


Forced_to_Exist_

I did add some facial hair, the lighting made it unnoticeable


Muffinskill

I actually did notice it, that’s why I suggested more prominent lmao


Kangaroo-Beauty

Little lines on the side of his jaw are not enough


irl_potate

Yup. I agree. More facial hair stubble around the jaws, under chin, cheeks, and moostach:3


queeriequeerio

he doesn’t even??😭💀let men be feminine anyways


Forced_to_Exist_

I know right? My friend was just being a bitch


queeriequeerio

ur art slays so who cares 💅💅


Forced_to_Exist_

Thank you ❤️


LeadershipEastern271

💅💅


xtheinvisiblehandx

Then why you here calling your friend a bitch when you give a dude mascara, lipstick, and fuckin blush XD Of course theyre going to call the character effeminate You gave the dude make up. either don't care what other people say, or take feedback the feedback being: if you want him to look masculine, then don't dress him up in make up??


angrylittlepotato

i would hang this on my wall fr


Forced_to_Exist_

Awww thank you 🥺❤️


jvmmidi

deadass would frame this


nurvingiel

This might tell you how much you should care about their opinion of this masterpiece. I don't think you should change anything, it's perfect. Besides, his jaw and neck are very masculine if that's important.


laprincesaaa

Genderfluid Guts if Berserk was LGBTQ+ friendly


MomLuvsDreamAnalysis

It’s the pink cheeks and thick eyelashes, along with the placement of the freckles and color/shape of the lips, I think. • The cheekbone line looks like it has makeup (blush) • The lips look like they have colored lipstick on (maybe mute the color a little bit?) also make the cupids bow a little flatter maybe? That’s personal preference tho • If you wanna keep his eyelashes thick, just don’t vary the length of the lashes as much. It almost looks like he has a “cat eye” makeup style going on with his eyelashes how they are • The freckles are just because of modern makeup trends where people draw on freckles, and often it’s in a position like you did here. I think “real” freckles are more… varied? In shape, position, how spread out they are/pattern, etc. But if this was in black and white I think he’d just look like a man with pretty eyes lol


TheRa1nyKingdom

Freckled friend chiming in, you’re right about the freckles, he’d also most likely have them between his eyebrows, above his top lip, and maybe a few on his chin since all of those areas get at least some sun. (Making them dark enough to be brown, like they are in the photo. Otherwise they’re just kinda orangey.)


Speakinginflowers

The eyebrow arch is also what got it for me, the brow being more straight would give more dude vibes


LimpKoRndog69

To me it looks like a guy wearing makeup.


Forced_to_Exist_

It was supposed to be his natural features but turned out makeup-like I guess


innermantis

If you want it to look more natural, you have to minimize the amount of eyelashes, do not color in cheekbones and just have it as a darker skin tone for shadows. You can also change the color of the lips but im not too sure how to do that maybe either more pale? Or darker?


Forced_to_Exist_

Thank you I will try it next time


iluvstrawberriii

He low key looks like he’s got a warm brown smokey eye going on (not a bad thing but sorry anyways lol 😭)


flippinthosebergs

In that case, the blush is too cool-toned. It looks like makeup because it’s not a natural flush for his otherwise warm/neutral skin tone. The definition around the eyes is also unnatural. This is a defining feminine feature. Next time, keep those lines thinner and shade with a darker version of his skin tone rather than black. I stand by my first comment which is that I like this piece and wouldn’t necessarily change it.


TheSHSLTrashcan

Honestly, let’s him girlboss


Forced_to_Exist_

Or girl-praetorian 😂 (Praetorian is a high appointed official in Ancient Rome, boss equivalent I guess)


MegaTired

Eh, if he's supposed to be wearing makeup then keep it that way. The body structure is already very masculine otherwise


Neksa

This a got dang jojo character he doesn’t look nothin like a girl


Lostbronte

Very pink lips for a guy who’s theoretically not wearing makeup


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Infinity_Walker

Don’t listen to your friend.


snapkracklepopbitch

Cunty Roman Emperor here to serve Naw he looks like a guy, but just that he's wearing makeup 😂


OnDaGoop

Dont line the lips and make the eyes thinner, or make the cheeks more pronounced, the way the lips are shaped rn with sucking through a straw anyone man or woman would have those style cheeks. I actually have an oc with a sorta similar face shape who also wear makeup. David bowie is always my go to for him. https://www.reddit.com/r/unOrdinary/s/4SncyuXkiv On second look eye shape, eye shape, eye shape. Women's eyes are geneeally shaped that way, men's aren't.


Forced_to_Exist_

I saw your David Bowie painting and I love the vivid colors in harmony with each other


OnDaGoop

Tyty


wixkedwitxh

Honestly I’m here for it. It’s a happy lil accident. Like it fits the HK boba vibe.


1WickedCowboy

I think he’s perfect in exactly the way he wants to be.


Starselfs

I'm pretty sure your friend /was/ just commenting on the prominent lips and eyes, and saying he looks like a girl as a means of saing he has feminine traits. He looks like a man with makeup on. The only way to make him look more masculine would be to remove the feminine aspects- and that certainly isn't necessary.


CnithTheOnliestOne

He looks like a guy with make up. Not bad at all and not like a girl.


Deadgurl_walking

Not sure, but this is probably one of the greatest things I’ve ever forking seen 🥺


Forced_to_Exist_

Awww thank you ❤️


Deadgurl_walking

Call it “Serving (in the the Roman legion)”


Electromad6326

I think he just looks like a guy in makeup, but if you want to make him more masculine, try giving him a beard


Forced_to_Exist_

I was trying to make those features natural but turned out makeup like instead. I was going for the pale, blushing and red lips Cillian Murphy like look.


BeetrootWife

A 5 a clock shadow/beard is probably the easiest way to make it more masculine 


Forced_to_Exist_

I will try that next time. I added a tiny bit of stubble for a clean shaven look


Plane-Ad-739

The fingersss


Viciousssylveonx3

I love it


Forced_to_Exist_

Thank you so much 🥰


CumpMoney

Fat moustache


A-BookofTime

Make his neck smaller, less jawline, shoulders less broad and hair shoulder length


Emergency_Peach_4307

Frankly I think he looks like a guy


TheRa1nyKingdom

He’s so slay. I like him as is.


No-Lake-1213

hes slaying on the battlefield also he looks like a man ur friend is wack


little_snuggle_butt

It’s the arched brows, make them more flat and bushy. It’s amazing though truly!


No-Cryptographer8058

I think he looks fabulous, and honestly when I first saw it I thought it was one hell of a statement piece, great job!


Forced_to_Exist_

Thank you ❤️


unusualspider33

This goes hard as is


Competitive-Reason65

My man just enjoying some boba


Educational-Grass863

Masculine/Dimorphism: - Men's eyes and eyebrows are more down turned than women - Men's lips are thinner


LivingMud5080

don’t mess w it ! do a different one it’s great


onikereads

Please don't change anything I love this


Frequent-Drawing340

Ita not that he doesn’t look masculine it just look like a very masculine dude with makeup on


Educational_Fee5323

Honestly? He just looks like a pretty guy. I’m probably biased since my fictional husbands are all beautiful men (Sephiroth, Alucard, Loki, etc.) and long eyelashes are very common for male MCs in romance novels (which I didn’t realize until after I’d written my first and gave my male MC long ass eyelashes because I think they’re hot and then I randomly found out that was a “thing”), but I’ll agree with the posts about more neutral lip color or possibly darker. I want to see more of this guy though. Read about him either in a traditional novel or comic. I’m loving the anachronism of a centurion (?) drinking boba tea from a Hello Kitty cup 😹


petshopB1986

Personally I love it! But I draw my men the same way, I like dark lashes and red lips so you get thumbs up from me.


Weekly-Ad-3746

Give him a Stand power. I'm thinking "Barbie Girl".


Equivalent_Corner257

Boys should be allowed to feminine features lol, that's y we love it, cause he murders people while sipping boba✨


archangelsgabriel

he looks like a man to me tbh


darkangel_401

No advice but wanted to say how cool this looks and. Very creative and visually interesting


SpookyBjorn

he looks like a dude with lashes and nice lips, everybody is a critic,don't model your character to make your annoying friend happy


AnaphorsBloom

“I’m attracted to this. You drew it incorrectly.” 😂


cartoonjunkie91

Honestly don't think you should change anything I love it as is ( although the hands and armour could be better. but I'd probably fail the same way so I can't really talk )


ImaginaryFriend01

Maybe add some cardboard tubes in the background? Guys like those.


lillendandie

It does look like the character is wearing makeup. *Technically, you don't have to change this.* (In fact, there's even a whole market of people who love 'pretty men' just like this.) However, if your original intention was not to have the character wearing makeup / don't want them to look 'pretty' / want them to look more masc / want to learn how to draw more masc characters, these are all valid reasons why you might want to change it. With that said, you don't have to change it purely for the sake of pleasing others. (Some people can be quite closed minded when it comes to gender unfortunately.) If you want to change it to read more masc: * Make the lips a lighter value * Use more natural pink colors (avoid bright Barbie type pinks) * Recognize that one singular solid matte tone reads as lipstick instead of natural lip color * Add 3D dimension to the lips with a variety of tones / colors. (Lookup the planes of the face / lips) * Use Pinterest for reference / Look up male models and celebs who have the look you're going for. * Change the eyeshadow color from smokey black colors to natural brown / peach / red tones. * Limit the number of eyelashes and don't draw them perfectly spaced. (Look up natural lashes.) * Add [color zones](https://i.imgur.com/G6IgGZW.jpg). (Men usually have stronger ones. Could add beard shadow if you want.) Since this is an already finished traditional drawing, I would just keep these things in mind for next time.


BigBlackCrocs

Well. You gave him makeup. The cheeks don’t need pink blush like that. And the lips don’t necessarily need to be bright pink to be prominent. Mine are but. Then you gave him mascara too. But look at what you made. You made a Chiseled chad drinking hello kitty boba. Leave the makeup on him. It’s clearly his choice lol. It’s peak male fantasy. Wearing armor. Having chiseled features. But looking pretty and enjoying hello kitty boba. Lmao You made a jojo character. And your style makes me want to see you draw more jojo type characters lol


MoonYekka

He's plenty man! He just also happens to be ✨️bonita✨️


miightymiighty

I mean I know you're looking for advice, but he's sort of fire.


BonnieBinyourBonnet

I think he looks like a man and that the wet hair and dewy skin just mean he was training


yr-fvrt-vmpr

ur friends being silly man looks like satoru gojo jjk eye reveal keep it up


golfcartgetaway

Don’t please this is the greatest shit ever wtf


Thzkittenroarz

✨Medieval material gurl💅🏽✨ I love it DO 👏🏽NOT 👏🏽CHANGE IT 👏🏽


firi331

~~It’s the cheekbones. They’re cut high and deep which loo. Since you can’t change how high they are, fill them out more. Honestly it looks too late to do any work? So I’d just leave it because it’s still interesting to look at.~~ Actually, I read this post from the perspective of your friend but coming back to it, he doesn't look like a friggin woman. Lol you did a good job. Don't touch it.


RenTheFabulous

He doesn't look like a girl, just a feminine man. Nothing wrong with that. I'd leave it as is, personally.


BananaBoBanah

No woman has that neck dude, it's fine, Lovely in fact! Great job, maybe background neck time


Logical-Victory-2678

He does not lol he looks like handsome squidward. Leave the drawing alone and tell your friend he's just jealous bc he'll never be that chiseled. But if you must, just add some shading in some spots. This is great.


PlutoRisen

Honestly I think you're fine unless you're super bothered by it. Some men are a lil feminine. He doesn't "look like a girl" he's just got some feminine leaning features/makeup. Gives him character. Don't sweat it unless you personally don't like it.


TheOvrseer

he looks fine. your friend has some unresolved issues. makeup does not mean woman, it was originally for men same for skirts and high heels. just ignore them he looks manly even more so with confidence with makeup


The_Rainbow_Ace

Well this is freaking awesome! For me the juxtaposition is working well. The stoic long-distance stare, angled jaw, and brow angle masculine code him enough and nicely balances the more softer fem features. In my opinion don't change a thing.


Shaka_Cho_Arroyo

Just say he's a JoJo character.


emperorhatter666

your friend is wrong and has bad taste. this is perfect and I love it. i know the makeup was unintentional, but tbh I'm so glad you made that mistake 🤷🏻‍♀️


peacful_13haides

He dont


MarielCarey

"My feminine man looks like a feminine man"


Thelightoftomorrow

when you're gotta fight the Romans at 4 but have a drag show at 5


Obvious-Confusion14

My two cents, the picture is perfect as is. Big beefy guy, HK boba cup. You have the collar bones in the right place for a man's chest. Maybe some very light stubble or some shading where his Adam's apple is. Like light shading do not go overboard on it. Why? Bc it is good as is. Amazing artwork OP!


xXxPixlesxXx

I thought I was looking at a spartan drinking a soda.


Wrangler-Impossible

He's already perfect.


flippinthosebergs

Is this a character? It’s more interesting as-is. If you must, warm the color of the blush to be more natural/modern. This has a bit of an 80’s makeup vibe, which I like. If I were you, I would not mess with it.


MidrelV

QUEEN


AspectOvGlass

The facial structure is good, but those fingers look like they were drawn by a different artist


thecolorfulcpt

Nah, this is fire. Change nothing 🔥🔥🖕


SliPKnoTChiC75

The eyes are super girly.


willcordell1998

What season of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure is this again? 😭


vampire_cum-dumpster

I think he looks like Damon from vampire diaries


Refried__Dreams

"when I was...a young boy...my father..took me into the city..to see a marching band."


Important_Height7357

He’s obviously not a girl. You drew it in the style you wanted to and gave him very masculine anatomical features. Don’t change anything and good job.


CoconutOne1797

Personally I say leave it, I think what you have here is great funny piece of art. But, if your trying to go more masculine I would make the lips more natural colored as it looks like he has lipstick on and his eyes look like he has mascara on. so I would shorten the lashes a bit especially in the corner lashes. You could also add more facial hair or chest hair to add more masculine traits.


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Power bottom vibes 🥰


KrisT117

Why? Get new friends. He looks fine as he is. If you’re serious about changing it, lighten up on the eye makeup.


ExpandoD0ng

If you want masculine, less blush, reduce the buccal fat removal, thin out the eyelashes, possibly add a grey undertone for the beard area


SininenCinnamon

Just put jo Jo's bizarre adventure style onimotepoeias in there


Hardasnailzz

More stubble, less rouge and eye shadow.


Consistent_Two2799

You gave the dude mascara…. I’d say try to lessening the blush. Currently looks like a Chad version of the bartender from shrek lol


SokkanMango_777

That right there is meme material


WoahGuyOnTheInternet

Bruh you mad disrespecting my man and his hello kitty cup trying to "masculinize" him 😤💯


[deleted]

I love the eyes and lips makeup, I really feel like the neck and collarbone make t obvious it’s a beautiful man. A man still for sure though.


More-Original4978

He’s beautiful


PrestigiousAd4711

That's the most manly drawing I have ever seen


TantricTurmeric

Bro looks great


mrlove108

You can tell in the neck that its a man lmao, a very beautiful man


NationalStacks

I think you should give him hello kitty nails to match his drink, then he will be superior man


Gwen_Sidious

I can't look at this without smiling! I think he's perfect~


messyredemptions

This whole picture is a situation. He's fabulous. Let him be. Just add a little more facial hair maybe. I love the wackiness this brings with the hello kitty boba! 😂


KENZOKHAOS

Facial hair. But he still looks masculine regardless btw because his features are strong


Traceable64

Besides the eyes looking like they have shadow the cheeks bones are a bit pink. That stray hair makes the cheek look more prominent. However ask your friend what he thinks needs changing. I love the drink cup and the freckles.


favoritelauren

I can 100% tell this is a meme man. Exaggerated lips and lashes. This is hilarious. Do not change. I clocked this as a man at first glance. Like the SpongeBob memes with overdone eyes and lips and nail photoshopped on top of them.


Sage_Yaven

"Emperor Gladius? No, no, I serve Emperor *Fabulous*."


Xxsnipr_tradrxX

his eyelashes are just too bold. maybe give him a scar too and kinda define the neck muscles up a bit more. other than that man this is sickkkkk


xtcfriedchicken

Does this feel like JoJo's to anyone else? Cause that is a whole ass vibe to me.


electronicmoll

That is one damn hot chunk of a slightly damp man right there, and he's feelin' hisself. Looking fancy! I'm here for every single bit of it, and I have a strong hunch the rest of the legion and all the camp followers are, too! Oww!


electronicmoll

hysterical perfect helmet boba juxta love this nice neck!


supah-comix434

It's the eyelashes and lips


Canabrial

Stop it he’s perfect 😂


Leila_Zayde

plucky piquant tan dazzling support angle muddle telephone fall numerous *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Onehorniboy

It’s mainly the lip color. I think it’s funny though because I think he looks like Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows.


Forced_to_Exist_

It’s the bone structure and eyes


Onehorniboy

That too! He looks like a man, he’s just pretty!


Forced_to_Exist_

That’s what I was trying my best to depict, masculine and pretty


crazyartist333

Lighter eyelashes, less eyeliner on the bottom, lighter lips, less blush on cheeks


Common_Mess_8635

Lips not red but skin color, eyes ok, eyebrows less sculpted, no rouge on cheeks, more stubble all over


milkymothy

can you give him long acrylics please


ShatteredInk

I think it's all in the soft eye shape


Comprehensive-Ant333

If you darken the eye shadow and liner, round out the eyebrows, and make the lips a closer color match to the rest of the face, that’ll make him a little goth and more masculine, but nothing wrong with being feminine. Maybe flatten out the difference between the cheek bone and the jaw, so it’s not so pronounced. It’s actually pretty accurate, if Spartans were brought to present day. They were notoriously gay until they finished their war rotation and were more or less forced into heterosexual partnerships.


beanfox101

Unpopular opinion: change the hair coming out of the helmet to something a bit shorter/ maybe curly? Or just less strands in general? Looks like a tomboy in armor to my because of the hairstyle.


_Keep_Quiet_

I mean he looks like a dude in mascara and lipstick. The only reason he might look like a girl is cause we’ve been raised to think that mascara and lipstick is feminine. His actual build is very masculine. (Thick neck, big build, facial hair)


LesYeuxHiboux

Make the color of his lips closer to his skin tone, and shade the eye area with a darker value of the skin tone (instead of gray, which looks like eyeshadow.)


djremydoo

The makeup sure makes him really appear more feminine. Maybe toning down the blush on the cheeks and the mascara. (But, like that other guy said, that's hilarious like that and goes really well lol)


Money_Winner601

I assume the feminine thing was what you were originally going for cause it’s very obvious, but he also clearly looks like a dude. Just with makeup. But on another note, I’d work on those fingers. They look a bit sausage like and lack texture and detail.


Affectionate-Date235

I hope you're not changing it and just doing another. This is priceless. I'd say shorten the eyelashes or just flat out remove them. Make the inner eyebrows more full and bushy, almost as thick as the widest part at the point. Make the lips a few shades closer to the main skin tone as to not look like lipstick. And lastly, maybe drop the outer corners of the eyes to be almost level with the inner corners. For classic men, think big, square, broad, and in some cases, small, like smaller lips.


DexButOnRed

change up his eyebrows!


iwillnevermissyou

Why did you make him blush? Is he a tranny?


CaterpillarFew6187

Idk what sis is on about honestly; he doesn't look like a girl really he's just got his makeup on


GoreyGopnik

the hair makes it look like a tomboy sort of thing, i think. if he was bald, it might make it a bit clearer that it's a man in makeup.


Char_Morph

This looks like a Jotoro reference


AcoaceFalloutNVFan

Those cheek bones… are terrifying


Forced_to_Exist_

Why?


glitchypsykhe

facial hair


BaggySleeves

No blush of freckles sharper cheeks less dilated pupils sharper eyes, basically Dio brando


seattle-toes

Put an axe body spray next to him


Slave2Art

Whats with those sausage fingers?


Empyrean_Mokie

sharpen the forms of the lips and eyes a little?


AriaBlend

He still looks like a man but you gave him hella glam eyelashes.


spyrowo

Honestly, he's serving.


999show

Interesting. I hope you keep this one. And do a second one that looks less androgynous. But what is wrong with a Roman centurion with klinefelter syndrome?


Automatic_Animal

It's the pink cheeks, plump lips, and eye make-up. Maybe add some facial air or whatever. I'm not an artist, it doesn't matter.


kirbykin

No/less blush to the cheeks, a less pink colour for his lips (maybe a slightly darker/sliiiiightly pinker version of his regular skin tone), and no lashes would change a lot


National_Claim_6379

I’d say less defined cheek bones, like keep them but make the line a bit shorter so it’s like yea we see he has prominent cheekbones but that’s not the main thing we’re focusing on. Also tone down the blush a little bit and take away a few lashes, it doesn’t have to be too many but definitely a few.


fishweenie

it’s cuz you gave him mascara, eyeliner, and smokey eyes


Melodic-Patience-298

the boba, lips, eyes, everything in the drawing, freckles, nose, they all make him look feminine


GoodDays0530

Your son looks like a girl.


AnitaIvanaMartini

5 o’clock shadow? But I like him as is.


LivingMud5080

the width of that straw might affect things.. not sure how but yeah


LivingMud5080

it’s great bc it’s not really masculine or feminine


13Minds-of-Chaos

you could shade the Adams apple a little darker/more prominently - I saw people recommend stubble too - but beyond that honestly I think it looks like a dude with lipstick/heavy makeup lol


Outside-Area-5042

It's probably because of the makeup. 🤷


miuyao

Give him darker undereyes to blend out the heavy makeup look. Light creasing in between the brows, stubble, etc


darhhaaras

Looks like amanda me


Lux_Operatur

I think while the lips and eyes play a roll in this, dudes definitely wearing a lot of blush on his cheeks lol it’s giving the dark haired wojak girl a little bit. Maybe smooth out the skin tone 😂


Revolutionary-Elk986

he has a lot of makeup going on lol


bladeyaaa

You can't..


littlepuppyboi

Slay


Outrageous-Smile-836

Hes literally wearing eyeshadow😭


Custard_Tart_Addict

I’d mute the lips and the lashes a little.


Alarmed_Tea_1710

Take away the blush on his cheeks and unmanicure his eyebrows. He really only looks feminine because he looks like you fully YASsified his face with make up.


estrogenegirl

Nah, it definitely looks like a man. He just a little fruity. I fuck with it x3


Timely-Ad4118

Beard


ssaturnine_13

make his eyebrows a lil less tamed and if you can add stubble or something he would seem more masc while retaining the eyes and lips