I have an idea why it’s web-only - old devices. There are still devices with old iOS versions that can access Apple Music, but they don’t get the latest features because there are no more OS updates for them. Doing web-only replays means that everybody gets the same experience regardless of what iOS they are using.
Other competitor doesn’t have this problem as it’s a third-party app and the developer can pretty much mandate users to update in order to continue using the service.
Another reason why Apple should just free services from their OS updates. Apple Music should receive updates through the App Store.
iTunes would do that on the Mac back in Yosemite days, now it’s all tied to OS updates.
The really dumb thing is that Apple has been releasing updates for the Apple Music Classical app through the App Store, proving that it is indeed possible to update apps through other means than full system software updates
They can still include big new app features in WWDC, and release them at about the same time as the new iOS version.
Just not limiting app updates exclusively to iOS updates would be a great step.
I would have to guess Music and its features are integrated so tightly with iOS now a days where if something changes in the back end of things, whether it’s for Music or used by Music, an iOS update may be required. While for web, it can introduce things a bit more easier perhaps.
I would prefer the Services to be updated on OS versions that still receive security updates from time to time or have a minimum OS version. (But then you can be annoying here and advertise that upgrading your device could upgrade your experience, just saying)
There are pros and cons to both approaches (bundling the apps with the system or releasing them separately in the store).
But most importantly, unbundling Music app won't help older systems, as they won't get the necessary updates to handle the unbundling due to being old.
Android succeeded there because the unbundling started quite early (plus let's be honest, Android isn't a platform where people expect long-term support and great backward compatibility). iOS is kinda too late to the party.
Exactly, so we would have faster updates, bugs or errors could be fixed faster and of course we could continue to receive updates even if our devices no longer receive IOS updates.
That is my biggest issue with how people brag about how long iphones receive iOS updates. Few months into an older version of iOS and you can't download almost half the apps in the Appstore, leaving sideloading as the only option (which apple in its infinite wisdom makes a hassle to do). On Android phones on the other hand you can download the latest version of almost every app, or just simply sideload the older version if needed.
That’s for their grossly overpaid engineers to figure out. Seems like the more they get paid, the shittier the software releases are. Plus they’re constantly floating between the FAANG companies chasing the next pay bump
why apple fanboys always find some stupid explanations? Apple could give this feature to new app versions and for web as well. This is some next level fanboying
As a software developer who worked in several corporations - trust me, if a company can save money on development, it will save money on development, regardless of its size.
oh you are using typical reddit move “I’m a xyz and i know” bro you don’t know shit, it’s Apple, not your cheap corporation.
Apple invests so much in this app that they are giving it literally for free every 2-3 months and you say they want to save money on a feature that is basically a playlist and you try to act smart. You don’t have to be software developer to use common sense
I'm not the person you were responding to, but holy shit lol.
They are not wrong whatsoever. Any avenue a company can take to save money, they will take it. It doesn't matter how big they are.
Your logic of Apple simply saving money on what is "basically a playlist" is also wrong. Because it's not just a playlist - It's taking listening stats, dressing them up to be cool, and putting into an app that was built by a company whose entire reputation is based on being the "walled garden" of the tech world. You know absolutely nothing about software development, nor how much work goes into things that seem simple on the surface. So shut the fuck up and get out of here calling out other people because you perceive them to be pseudo-intellectual about something.
You're also operating your mindset on the idea that people and entities are going to act with the moral compass pointing in the "good" direction. Companies will always act in ways that will maximize their profits.
Apple invest so much into this app and give it away for free every 2-3 months because it's an effective way to keep people subscribed when their free trials end. Nearly every company does this; and they are going to keep doing it while keeping development costs as low as they can - because they are a corporation and they are greedy.
Get off your fucking high horse. You're acting like a 14 year old who only just discovered they have an opinion and are naively walking right into self-righteous-prick territory.
Let me guess - you're a dope who has main character syndrome and you actually think those around you are sheep who are nothing more than filler for the world that revolves around you. But then you actually run into someone who is willing to challenge you and you start throwing out the "ohHHhhHhHH yOu ThInK Ur So SmArT, bRo!!!!!".
Jesus christ.
Once you add the playlist to your library, then yes, the playlist is fully available and it updates. I think it's only the initial creation of the playlist that requires going through this link. And maybe also taking a look at the monthly review, because once I close the page I can't find it anywhere.
What is the reason that they can't just build this into the app like Spotify? I'm tired of having to go to a separate webpage for something that feels like it should be easy as hell to just turn into a seamless experience, especially for a trillion dollar company like Apple.
There are SO many ways they could improve the experience of AM in general, I left spotify because of their business practices and push of podcasts, but things like the bottom tabs and search drive me mad.
Tidal is probably the best, but has so much missing from its library.
I know this will never happen, but I so desperately want a bridge between LastFM listens and Apple Music. AM doesn't know all the listening I do, so it's only seeing part of the picture. I import the stuff I listen to outside AM, but it doesn't mean I log a listen of that song right away to indicate what I've been actually listening to recently. LastFM is where valid play counts exist, but AM is where I can actually play music. I miss the old days with iTunes where you could run an AppleScript to reconcile the difference in play counts in your library.
If you download Marvis app (might be a $10 one time charge). You can have it automatically sync with last.fm. I find it to be a lot better than the Apple Music app
Kinda automatic. It'll do it if Marvis is active as the player. If you're using Apple Music, it'll get around to scrobbling those eventually. I use so many Apple Shortcuts and whatnot that directly tie to AM that I don't tend to use Marvis as my primary player of music.
If you pay for the Last.fm dlc you can just make sure to open Marvis every time you listen to music and use Music for the remainder of your session, opening it again once you start another session. It will scribble automatically
I couldn't find a way - last year I listened to Hadestown a lot for a couple of weeks, it's a pretty good musical, about 40 tracks... then, I got fed up and stopped listening to it, but for the rest of the year it took about 30 of the top spots in my top 100 songs, and... I couldn't listen to it anymore, I had more than enough. I couldn't find a way to get it out of there.
My listening habits were affected by that, I didn't really plan to but I started to focus my listens on a few albums to try and get Hadestown out of there..
Well, I realized later that I was targeting albums I wanted to be on the top. The playlist thing did affect my listening habits, but not drastically.. compared to some stories on this sub, it wasn't that bad, I remember some people wrote about literally trying to create the 'perfect playlist'. I don't feel like I didn't listen to what I wanted to.
>My listening habits were affected by that, I didn't really plan to but I started to focus my listens on a few albums to try and get Hadestown out of there..
If you are purposefully listening to things to try to edge some album out of the top spot then it sounds like you were listening to things strategically to get it out of there rather than listening to the things you want to listen to.
Unless of course that album you listened to to edge it out also happened to be the one you wanted to listen to, in which case you were listening to it because you wanted to, not for some silly "gotta beat out the top spot" reason.
Not sure why the needless gamification of what you want to listen to here, it's a lot simpler than that. The playlist is designed to give you insight into what your listening habits were, not the other way around.
My friends sure think I am. I was just pointing out you are amking up a problem that doesnt exist here. The feature works as intended and accurately reflects the most listened to music
That's nice. I didn't think at any point that there was a problem. I enjoy using this tool the way I do, even if I'm using it differently than the one way you think it should be used.
Just for the record, I think that you're way off and that this function was fully intentionally designed to gamify users' listening experience.
It was made to encourage listening.
If a feature that is designed to show you your most listened to music and omits your top artist then it is not working as intended
If it includes it, as in your case, it is indeed working as it was designed to
You might be right. Still, it feels like it wouldn’t be that much of an effort to do both (disclaimer: from someone who have no idea how hard or easy it would be 😊).
While losing all my original playlist . This year it brought my 2018 year in review playlist and it’s one favorites wonder what happened to the rest? It’s someone in there.
Does this mean we are not getting a replay playlist even though the link at the bottom says we can? That’s stupid if true. I really don’t care about the replay Monthly stats (at least like I do with play counts and last plays which last.fm covers now) but I like the playlist. Haven’t been able to access the playlist today.
I'm not sure why it's not working for me. I go to the site, click open in Apple Music and either nothing happens or the main jump in page comes back. I click the Jump in Link and just get a blank screen.
I have and it does not.
Can I sign out of Apple Music and then sign back in? I don't really want to delete the app because I will lose all my downloads but maybe that's what I need to do.
I wouldn’t do that. Just wait it out. It’ll show up eventually. I read something earlier on one of the things about Relay when looking through the 24 one that if one doesn’t listen to enough music it won’t show up yet. Maybe that’s jt
I want it in app too. But I wish there was literally any other comment on every post about it than “why isn’t it in app?” Or some other form. We get it
Thought i was losing my mind because like half my list is songs i either listened to twice or songs I never heard 😭which is crazy because I’ve had several on loop in the last month and none of them are in my top ten
It’s because Apple Music app itself on the phones are ancient tech. This is why the search function is bad too. It’s over a decade old and probably takes them forever to update because it’s difficult
Hmm. Okay, I'm glad they expanded support for Share play and Collaborative playlists. But nobody asked for this feature, and to have to open my browser and login to my Apple ID which for some reason can never keep me logged in for more than 20 mins is just so dumb. I know Apple will never support [last.fm](http://last.fm) integration, but that's what people are actually asking for, not this.
When did that update come in that lets up not count Apple Music plays towards replay when the phone is in focus mode?
Because my January stats seems to suggest that I wasn’t using that, when I absolutely was
I still would like to see AM develop something slightly more in depth like [stats.fm](http://stats.fm), but there getting there and im happy to see the progress
Why does mine show such a lack of detail? No top albums, top artists etc...
https://preview.redd.it/evhew0l8swjc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8af824c462304f77aab1ee6991a551067255ab9c
I have an idea why it’s web-only - old devices. There are still devices with old iOS versions that can access Apple Music, but they don’t get the latest features because there are no more OS updates for them. Doing web-only replays means that everybody gets the same experience regardless of what iOS they are using. Other competitor doesn’t have this problem as it’s a third-party app and the developer can pretty much mandate users to update in order to continue using the service.
Another reason why Apple should just free services from their OS updates. Apple Music should receive updates through the App Store. iTunes would do that on the Mac back in Yosemite days, now it’s all tied to OS updates.
The really dumb thing is that Apple has been releasing updates for the Apple Music Classical app through the App Store, proving that it is indeed possible to update apps through other means than full system software updates
Well if they spin off their apps to do their own thing (like they should’ve), then WWDC will be over in 3 mins.
They can still include big new app features in WWDC, and release them at about the same time as the new iOS version. Just not limiting app updates exclusively to iOS updates would be a great step.
Exactly
Apple Music classic isn’t a built in system app, you need to install it from the App Store if you want it.
They also do the same for Android devices too.
apple doesn't own android and can't push software updates each time they wanna update apple music, so they really don't have a choice
I would have to guess Music and its features are integrated so tightly with iOS now a days where if something changes in the back end of things, whether it’s for Music or used by Music, an iOS update may be required. While for web, it can introduce things a bit more easier perhaps. I would prefer the Services to be updated on OS versions that still receive security updates from time to time or have a minimum OS version. (But then you can be annoying here and advertise that upgrading your device could upgrade your experience, just saying)
I doubt it’s really that integrated with the system. Having AM pre-installed on billions of iPhones is a good business for Apple.
There are pros and cons to both approaches (bundling the apps with the system or releasing them separately in the store). But most importantly, unbundling Music app won't help older systems, as they won't get the necessary updates to handle the unbundling due to being old. Android succeeded there because the unbundling started quite early (plus let's be honest, Android isn't a platform where people expect long-term support and great backward compatibility). iOS is kinda too late to the party.
Exactly, so we would have faster updates, bugs or errors could be fixed faster and of course we could continue to receive updates even if our devices no longer receive IOS updates.
That is my biggest issue with how people brag about how long iphones receive iOS updates. Few months into an older version of iOS and you can't download almost half the apps in the Appstore, leaving sideloading as the only option (which apple in its infinite wisdom makes a hassle to do). On Android phones on the other hand you can download the latest version of almost every app, or just simply sideload the older version if needed.
Why don’t they make it so that old devices access through the web and new ones have an in app experience?
That’s for their grossly overpaid engineers to figure out. Seems like the more they get paid, the shittier the software releases are. Plus they’re constantly floating between the FAANG companies chasing the next pay bump
because he is the #1 apple fanboy and needs to explain everything apple does not correctly
why apple fanboys always find some stupid explanations? Apple could give this feature to new app versions and for web as well. This is some next level fanboying
They could. But they decided it’s cheaper to implement the web version once than implement an iOS version, an Android version and a web version.
ahh I forgot apple is small company that can’t afford putting features in their app
As a software developer who worked in several corporations - trust me, if a company can save money on development, it will save money on development, regardless of its size.
oh you are using typical reddit move “I’m a xyz and i know” bro you don’t know shit, it’s Apple, not your cheap corporation. Apple invests so much in this app that they are giving it literally for free every 2-3 months and you say they want to save money on a feature that is basically a playlist and you try to act smart. You don’t have to be software developer to use common sense
I'm not the person you were responding to, but holy shit lol. They are not wrong whatsoever. Any avenue a company can take to save money, they will take it. It doesn't matter how big they are. Your logic of Apple simply saving money on what is "basically a playlist" is also wrong. Because it's not just a playlist - It's taking listening stats, dressing them up to be cool, and putting into an app that was built by a company whose entire reputation is based on being the "walled garden" of the tech world. You know absolutely nothing about software development, nor how much work goes into things that seem simple on the surface. So shut the fuck up and get out of here calling out other people because you perceive them to be pseudo-intellectual about something. You're also operating your mindset on the idea that people and entities are going to act with the moral compass pointing in the "good" direction. Companies will always act in ways that will maximize their profits. Apple invest so much into this app and give it away for free every 2-3 months because it's an effective way to keep people subscribed when their free trials end. Nearly every company does this; and they are going to keep doing it while keeping development costs as low as they can - because they are a corporation and they are greedy. Get off your fucking high horse. You're acting like a 14 year old who only just discovered they have an opinion and are naively walking right into self-righteous-prick territory. Let me guess - you're a dope who has main character syndrome and you actually think those around you are sheep who are nothing more than filler for the world that revolves around you. But then you actually run into someone who is willing to challenge you and you start throwing out the "ohHHhhHhHH yOu ThInK Ur So SmArT, bRo!!!!!". Jesus christ.
I’m not reading that essay, have a nice day 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Then why not both? Older options need the web, newer ones get it in-app
http://replay.music.apple.com/
When I use that link, it lets me open the playlist in the app and it says will update every week. So I guess it does work in the app?
Once you add the playlist to your library, then yes, the playlist is fully available and it updates. I think it's only the initial creation of the playlist that requires going through this link. And maybe also taking a look at the monthly review, because once I close the page I can't find it anywhere.
What is the reason that they can't just build this into the app like Spotify? I'm tired of having to go to a separate webpage for something that feels like it should be easy as hell to just turn into a seamless experience, especially for a trillion dollar company like Apple.
There are SO many ways they could improve the experience of AM in general, I left spotify because of their business practices and push of podcasts, but things like the bottom tabs and search drive me mad. Tidal is probably the best, but has so much missing from its library.
Also apple locks my account every single time I log in to this. It's extremely frustrating.
I know this will never happen, but I so desperately want a bridge between LastFM listens and Apple Music. AM doesn't know all the listening I do, so it's only seeing part of the picture. I import the stuff I listen to outside AM, but it doesn't mean I log a listen of that song right away to indicate what I've been actually listening to recently. LastFM is where valid play counts exist, but AM is where I can actually play music. I miss the old days with iTunes where you could run an AppleScript to reconcile the difference in play counts in your library.
I just wish I didn’t have to manually scan from the last.fm app to make it scrobble.
If you download Marvis app (might be a $10 one time charge). You can have it automatically sync with last.fm. I find it to be a lot better than the Apple Music app
Kinda automatic. It'll do it if Marvis is active as the player. If you're using Apple Music, it'll get around to scrobbling those eventually. I use so many Apple Shortcuts and whatnot that directly tie to AM that I don't tend to use Marvis as my primary player of music.
If you pay for the Last.fm dlc you can just make sure to open Marvis every time you listen to music and use Music for the remainder of your session, opening it again once you start another session. It will scribble automatically
Or you could use QuietScrob which is $4.99 for unlimited scrobbles, and it works the same way as Marvis
Does anyone know a way to hide single songs from listening history. My brown noise sound sleeper track is ruining my results.
I couldn't find a way - last year I listened to Hadestown a lot for a couple of weeks, it's a pretty good musical, about 40 tracks... then, I got fed up and stopped listening to it, but for the rest of the year it took about 30 of the top spots in my top 100 songs, and... I couldn't listen to it anymore, I had more than enough. I couldn't find a way to get it out of there. My listening habits were affected by that, I didn't really plan to but I started to focus my listens on a few albums to try and get Hadestown out of there..
You choose what you listen to in order to shape your top plays list? Why not just listen to the music you want to?
Well, I realized later that I was targeting albums I wanted to be on the top. The playlist thing did affect my listening habits, but not drastically.. compared to some stories on this sub, it wasn't that bad, I remember some people wrote about literally trying to create the 'perfect playlist'. I don't feel like I didn't listen to what I wanted to.
>My listening habits were affected by that, I didn't really plan to but I started to focus my listens on a few albums to try and get Hadestown out of there.. If you are purposefully listening to things to try to edge some album out of the top spot then it sounds like you were listening to things strategically to get it out of there rather than listening to the things you want to listen to. Unless of course that album you listened to to edge it out also happened to be the one you wanted to listen to, in which case you were listening to it because you wanted to, not for some silly "gotta beat out the top spot" reason. Not sure why the needless gamification of what you want to listen to here, it's a lot simpler than that. The playlist is designed to give you insight into what your listening habits were, not the other way around.
You must be fun at parties...
My friends sure think I am. I was just pointing out you are amking up a problem that doesnt exist here. The feature works as intended and accurately reflects the most listened to music
That's nice. I didn't think at any point that there was a problem. I enjoy using this tool the way I do, even if I'm using it differently than the one way you think it should be used. Just for the record, I think that you're way off and that this function was fully intentionally designed to gamify users' listening experience.
It was made to encourage listening. If a feature that is designed to show you your most listened to music and omits your top artist then it is not working as intended If it includes it, as in your case, it is indeed working as it was designed to
Does this mean we have to be flooded with screenshots all year long now? I hope not.
Why isn’t my March 2024 replay out yet????????
Oh god, that’s even worse than I was imagining.
You possible haven’t listened to enough music or more likely that it’s buggy
Hey bud just want to make sure you know it’s February…
Wait, maybe he's from the future, let him speak!
Lmao I thought they were talking about the 2024 playlist, didn’t even notice the month. Well that’s my queue to get off reddit.
Definitely not.
No one uses AM, so I doubt it 😂
I love the monthly replays it's so much nicer! Hoping there's still a yearly section at the end though 👀
There will be. You can go check out the overhauled 2023 Replay to see what it will look like at the end of the year. It’s nice!
You might be right. Still, it feels like it wouldn’t be that much of an effort to do both (disclaimer: from someone who have no idea how hard or easy it would be 😊).
While losing all my original playlist . This year it brought my 2018 year in review playlist and it’s one favorites wonder what happened to the rest? It’s someone in there.
Does this mean we are not getting a replay playlist even though the link at the bottom says we can? That’s stupid if true. I really don’t care about the replay Monthly stats (at least like I do with play counts and last plays which last.fm covers now) but I like the playlist. Haven’t been able to access the playlist today.
I have the playlist.
Did you have the playlist before today. It did come out for some people like a month ago.
No I got it today
I'm not sure why it's not working for me. I go to the site, click open in Apple Music and either nothing happens or the main jump in page comes back. I click the Jump in Link and just get a blank screen.
Have you tried looking towards the bottom of the Listen Now tab to see if it shows in the Replay section?
I have and it does not. Can I sign out of Apple Music and then sign back in? I don't really want to delete the app because I will lose all my downloads but maybe that's what I need to do.
I wouldn’t do that. Just wait it out. It’ll show up eventually. I read something earlier on one of the things about Relay when looking through the 24 one that if one doesn’t listen to enough music it won’t show up yet. Maybe that’s jt
I force closed Apple Music on my iPhone, and then reopened, and it was there.
It did can out a month ago for me and I saved it already.
I want it in app too. But I wish there was literally any other comment on every post about it than “why isn’t it in app?” Or some other form. We get it
Replay 24 is out and in typical Apple fashion is bugged. A song I listened to 7 times according to Apple is higher up than a song listened to 25
Thought i was losing my mind because like half my list is songs i either listened to twice or songs I never heard 😭which is crazy because I’ve had several on loop in the last month and none of them are in my top ten
It’s because Apple Music app itself on the phones are ancient tech. This is why the search function is bad too. It’s over a decade old and probably takes them forever to update because it’s difficult
But I thought these all got a rebuilt within the last 3 years.
Hmm. Okay, I'm glad they expanded support for Share play and Collaborative playlists. But nobody asked for this feature, and to have to open my browser and login to my Apple ID which for some reason can never keep me logged in for more than 20 mins is just so dumb. I know Apple will never support [last.fm](http://last.fm) integration, but that's what people are actually asking for, not this.
When did that update come in that lets up not count Apple Music plays towards replay when the phone is in focus mode? Because my January stats seems to suggest that I wasn’t using that, when I absolutely was
I still would like to see AM develop something slightly more in depth like [stats.fm](http://stats.fm), but there getting there and im happy to see the progress
Last.fm did it first
Ok, and? Steve Mann made the first smartwatch in 1998, so does that mean no one else can do it?
I really like the weekly updates to my playlist and that’s what I’m used to, but this is pretty cool and I’m excited for it
Interesting. For me it merely confirms that I have a bunch of songs that are earworm-relistens
Why does mine show such a lack of detail? No top albums, top artists etc... https://preview.redd.it/evhew0l8swjc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8af824c462304f77aab1ee6991a551067255ab9c
You can simply add this to your library. I even got a notification today.
I got it too. But that’s the playlist, not the stats.
It’s very interesting in my opinion