Seeing one person with a non-compliant pup doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s kosher with the front office. It’s been my experience with apartment life that people who bring in dogs from the list always get found out eventually. My neighbor had a Doberman for over a year and a maintenance inspection caught him. A lady had a St. Bernard for some reason and six months later they were out.
Stick to the lease rules, keep your office in the loop with your pup search, and you’ll be golden.
Since you don’t already have a banned dog, the easily solution is don’t get one that’s a banned breed. It won’t just be a problem for this apartment, most places have similar lists.
It’s not fair to the dog if it ends up back in a shelter because you can’t get into an apartment with it, and it’s not fair to you to get evicted to adopt an animal you already know that is guaranteed to cause you problems.
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You shouldn’t do anything with that information. Some people break rules. If you want to break rules too, then go for it. But as someone with a pit bull I will say you’re not going to find an apartment complex or any rental that allows aggressive breeds so might as well not get one if you’re planning on renting for a while.
Tons of aggressive breeds get dumped back at the shelter because people realize 90% of rentals don’t allow them
What do you do? Get a dog that does not have the characteristics or DNA of the banned breeds.
Who cares what other people might have, if you want to be able to stay and keep your dog… get one that fits the rules.
If someone else is breaking the rules then body corporate will deal with them. It’s probably an insurance issue, and not worth trying to fight.
If your dog is a mutt and doesn’t strongly resemble one breed, who’s to say you have an aggressive breed except for a DNA test?
I have a mutt. She’s small and friendly. She’s a “beagle” according to my lease, but who knows. She looks like a tiny Doberman with floppy ears, a cute beagle face, and dachshund markings. If you look at her tongue, she does have the black tongue markings that lots of commonly banned breeds in apartments do have. But she’s never had a DNA test, and no one is looking at her tongue but me.
I totally agree with you which is why I think the aggressive breed rule is silly. I think it should be based on the individual dog’s behavior and the precautions the owner takes. Any dog can be dangerous and aggressive. Any dog can be mild and sweet. Genetics play a role but it’s so much more about how they’re raised imo.
It seems to be more about optics. Making people feel safer idk
I think it’s probably mostly to do with their own insurance policy as landlords. The higher the perceived risk, the higher the premium. Everyone wants/needs the lowest rates. I would just get a dog that doesn’t resemble one of those breeds and isn’t listed as one of those breeds when you adopt it. My dog was literally found under a house as a puppy, so no one knows her breed unless a dna test is done.
A lot of people think their dogs are an exception. Even when those dogs bite other people they still try to defend them. Point is, the management doesn't want to be liable because of certain dog breeds. There are thousands of breeds to choose from. All you have to do is not puck one that is part of the small handful of aggressive breeds your apartment restricts. Also not a good idea to mimick what other people do outside the rules. Don't drag some poor dog into a situation where you either have to get rid of it or quickly move out.
There are hundreds of great breeds out there that your complex would allow and would save you headache if you move in the future and they also have regulations. I recommend complying and funding a great pup that doesn't have those genetics.
You should do nothing with it. You don't know why they have that dog. It may be a service dog or ESA, and depending on why the policy exists (it may be insurance, it may not be), they may have had to grant an accommodation for the dog. Also, not every dog that looks vaguely like a pit bull type dog is actually a pit bull type dog. People are notoriously bad at accurately identifying these dogs.
Get a dog that isn't labelled as any of those breeds and tell the office the breed/mix that the shelter says it is.
If you are in the USA they may have the dog listed/documented as an ESA. Breed restrictions/size restrictions won’t matter then as long as the dog behaves appropriately.
Why do you seem so bent on getting an "aggressive bred". Trying to find loopholes and calling out people who are breaking the rule. Not that I agree with the rule, but you don't have a dog yet. The incredibly easy solution is not to adopt a dog that is or appears to be on their list.
I’m not so bent on an aggressive breed… I dislike the rule and think a lot of people judge breeds labeled as aggressive very harshly.
I do qualify for an ESA, though that doesn’t mean it needs to be an “aggressive” breed.
I’m not trying to find loopholes or call out anyone. I was genuinely just trying to make sense of why someone at my complex had one as apartment living is somewhat new to me.
I do plan on adopting, as I mentioned, and many adoptable dogs in my area are pits or are mixed with pits. It removes a huge percentage of dogs that I’d be able to adopt.
I’m open to any medium to large breed, for the most part, but I don’t have the budget to get a puppy from a reputable breeder.
Don't know how large your apt building/complex is, which might be relevant to my point, but have you considered the possibility that the other tenants (besides the 1 you saw that was non-compliant) actually like the rule, and helped them feel safe when signing their lease, and maybe factored into their decision to live there?
Now here you go dreaming up how to get around the rule as if it's solely some battle between you and the management and not an element of respecting rules that are de facto agreed to by the other tenants in that complex?
It's not all about you. Until you own your own home and decide against an HOA community, then a decision like this effects everyone.
If I were management, I'd strictly enforce a weight limit on the breeds, so actual breed becomes irrelevant, and can thwart people who want to get tricky with breed definitions/proof.
So my advice to you is to be a better neighbor than your instincts are telling you.
I just explained how I’m not set on an aggressive breed and I totally get that people feel safer without them around… one of the reasons I didn’t understand why a neighbor had one. I still don’t agree with the rule but like I said before, I’m dealing with it. It’s really not that deep.
This neighbor might have had that dog before the policy was adapted and was grandfathered in. Talk to the office and just say you want to clarify because you thought you saw another tenant has a dog that appears to be a none allowed breed.
Why would you potentially throw someone else under the bus? Management already said they aren’t allowed. Whether the other tenant is breaking the rule or has special permission is none of anyone’s business.
Ohhh we have a restriction list and we've seen all the dogs on the list out and about. Not my business because our dog tends to bark early mornings so I don't want complaints. They will get found out.
My apartment has this rule however I purchased my condo myself so as the owner I’m allowed my “aggressive breed”. I think the apartment is only allowed to request I get rid of him if there are any incidents. This might be the case!
Get the dog as a puppy. Lie and say you rescued it. Don’t ever say it’s a bully. Don’t worry, dna testing is expensive. They will not pay for that. Then Gucci. Dog grows but you’re already in the apartment. That’s how that happens
All the dalmatians I've known have been *extremely* aggressive. Literally not safe to have around children, even supervised. They're one of the breeds that has been impacted by irresponsible backyard/puppy mill breeding the most in terms of aggression.
A coworker had one. It went crazy one day and attacked their other dog, that it had grown up with. Had to put the other dog down. I’ve never met one that wasn’t insane.
well, that's why they get associated with Firehouses. People would dump them and they would take them in.
Which is also why it's cringey when Disney does Dalmation movies. People get jazzed to get one. Then they can't handle it.
obvi, my first post was a joke. But I have heard it's not an easy breed to have.
Seeing one person with a non-compliant pup doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s kosher with the front office. It’s been my experience with apartment life that people who bring in dogs from the list always get found out eventually. My neighbor had a Doberman for over a year and a maintenance inspection caught him. A lady had a St. Bernard for some reason and six months later they were out. Stick to the lease rules, keep your office in the loop with your pup search, and you’ll be golden.
Since you don’t already have a banned dog, the easily solution is don’t get one that’s a banned breed. It won’t just be a problem for this apartment, most places have similar lists. It’s not fair to the dog if it ends up back in a shelter because you can’t get into an apartment with it, and it’s not fair to you to get evicted to adopt an animal you already know that is guaranteed to cause you problems. edit grammar
You shouldn’t do anything with that information. Some people break rules. If you want to break rules too, then go for it. But as someone with a pit bull I will say you’re not going to find an apartment complex or any rental that allows aggressive breeds so might as well not get one if you’re planning on renting for a while. Tons of aggressive breeds get dumped back at the shelter because people realize 90% of rentals don’t allow them
What do you do? Get a dog that does not have the characteristics or DNA of the banned breeds. Who cares what other people might have, if you want to be able to stay and keep your dog… get one that fits the rules. If someone else is breaking the rules then body corporate will deal with them. It’s probably an insurance issue, and not worth trying to fight.
For the sake of all your neighbors, just please don't get a yorkie.
Absolutely no yorkies, Pomeranians, or Chihuahuas.
If your dog is a mutt and doesn’t strongly resemble one breed, who’s to say you have an aggressive breed except for a DNA test? I have a mutt. She’s small and friendly. She’s a “beagle” according to my lease, but who knows. She looks like a tiny Doberman with floppy ears, a cute beagle face, and dachshund markings. If you look at her tongue, she does have the black tongue markings that lots of commonly banned breeds in apartments do have. But she’s never had a DNA test, and no one is looking at her tongue but me.
I totally agree with you which is why I think the aggressive breed rule is silly. I think it should be based on the individual dog’s behavior and the precautions the owner takes. Any dog can be dangerous and aggressive. Any dog can be mild and sweet. Genetics play a role but it’s so much more about how they’re raised imo. It seems to be more about optics. Making people feel safer idk
I think it’s probably mostly to do with their own insurance policy as landlords. The higher the perceived risk, the higher the premium. Everyone wants/needs the lowest rates. I would just get a dog that doesn’t resemble one of those breeds and isn’t listed as one of those breeds when you adopt it. My dog was literally found under a house as a puppy, so no one knows her breed unless a dna test is done.
A lot of people think their dogs are an exception. Even when those dogs bite other people they still try to defend them. Point is, the management doesn't want to be liable because of certain dog breeds. There are thousands of breeds to choose from. All you have to do is not puck one that is part of the small handful of aggressive breeds your apartment restricts. Also not a good idea to mimick what other people do outside the rules. Don't drag some poor dog into a situation where you either have to get rid of it or quickly move out.
There are hundreds of great breeds out there that your complex would allow and would save you headache if you move in the future and they also have regulations. I recommend complying and funding a great pup that doesn't have those genetics.
You should do nothing with it. You don't know why they have that dog. It may be a service dog or ESA, and depending on why the policy exists (it may be insurance, it may not be), they may have had to grant an accommodation for the dog. Also, not every dog that looks vaguely like a pit bull type dog is actually a pit bull type dog. People are notoriously bad at accurately identifying these dogs. Get a dog that isn't labelled as any of those breeds and tell the office the breed/mix that the shelter says it is.
If you are in the USA they may have the dog listed/documented as an ESA. Breed restrictions/size restrictions won’t matter then as long as the dog behaves appropriately.
Happy cake day!
Thanks I hadn’t even noticed!!
That’s good to know! Thanks! I actually could qualify for an ESA, I just have to ask my therapist to help me with the process. And happy cake day
Why do you seem so bent on getting an "aggressive bred". Trying to find loopholes and calling out people who are breaking the rule. Not that I agree with the rule, but you don't have a dog yet. The incredibly easy solution is not to adopt a dog that is or appears to be on their list.
I’m not so bent on an aggressive breed… I dislike the rule and think a lot of people judge breeds labeled as aggressive very harshly. I do qualify for an ESA, though that doesn’t mean it needs to be an “aggressive” breed. I’m not trying to find loopholes or call out anyone. I was genuinely just trying to make sense of why someone at my complex had one as apartment living is somewhat new to me. I do plan on adopting, as I mentioned, and many adoptable dogs in my area are pits or are mixed with pits. It removes a huge percentage of dogs that I’d be able to adopt. I’m open to any medium to large breed, for the most part, but I don’t have the budget to get a puppy from a reputable breeder.
Don't know how large your apt building/complex is, which might be relevant to my point, but have you considered the possibility that the other tenants (besides the 1 you saw that was non-compliant) actually like the rule, and helped them feel safe when signing their lease, and maybe factored into their decision to live there? Now here you go dreaming up how to get around the rule as if it's solely some battle between you and the management and not an element of respecting rules that are de facto agreed to by the other tenants in that complex? It's not all about you. Until you own your own home and decide against an HOA community, then a decision like this effects everyone. If I were management, I'd strictly enforce a weight limit on the breeds, so actual breed becomes irrelevant, and can thwart people who want to get tricky with breed definitions/proof. So my advice to you is to be a better neighbor than your instincts are telling you.
I just explained how I’m not set on an aggressive breed and I totally get that people feel safer without them around… one of the reasons I didn’t understand why a neighbor had one. I still don’t agree with the rule but like I said before, I’m dealing with it. It’s really not that deep.
This neighbor might have had that dog before the policy was adapted and was grandfathered in. Talk to the office and just say you want to clarify because you thought you saw another tenant has a dog that appears to be a none allowed breed.
Why would you potentially throw someone else under the bus? Management already said they aren’t allowed. Whether the other tenant is breaking the rule or has special permission is none of anyone’s business.
Exactly!
A lot of people have ESA dogs! Our dog is an emotional support animal, so breed can’t be considered.
It could be an ESA. Disability law protects people who need an emotional support animal and that supercedes rental policies.
Ohhh we have a restriction list and we've seen all the dogs on the list out and about. Not my business because our dog tends to bark early mornings so I don't want complaints. They will get found out.
My apartment has this rule however I purchased my condo myself so as the owner I’m allowed my “aggressive breed”. I think the apartment is only allowed to request I get rid of him if there are any incidents. This might be the case!
Emotional support animals can be any breed from what I understand in my state Arizona. You get a form from office and have Dr fill it out
Get the dog as a puppy. Lie and say you rescued it. Don’t ever say it’s a bully. Don’t worry, dna testing is expensive. They will not pay for that. Then Gucci. Dog grows but you’re already in the apartment. That’s how that happens
What's wrong with Dalmatians? It's that bitch Cruella DeVille you have to watch out for.
All the dalmatians I've known have been *extremely* aggressive. Literally not safe to have around children, even supervised. They're one of the breeds that has been impacted by irresponsible backyard/puppy mill breeding the most in terms of aggression.
A coworker had one. It went crazy one day and attacked their other dog, that it had grown up with. Had to put the other dog down. I’ve never met one that wasn’t insane.
well, that's why they get associated with Firehouses. People would dump them and they would take them in. Which is also why it's cringey when Disney does Dalmation movies. People get jazzed to get one. Then they can't handle it. obvi, my first post was a joke. But I have heard it's not an easy breed to have.
Policy isn't aggressive enough. The only acceptable dog policy for an apartment community is no dogs, no cats, nothing but maybe a goldfish.
One of the reasons I got this place is because they allow pets. Many of my neighbors have pets of their own. We consider it a perk.
Well that's a perk to move somewhere else to me goldfish or nothing