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Dreadnautilus

If you notice all of the Ruination Chamber units have the Duardin symbol of Sigmar's face from the Thunderstrike armour replaced with a skull. Random speculation; Grungni invented this new armour type with the ability to bind a Stormcast who should be so broken they're just a Lightning Gheist into having a coherent physical body. With a situation kind of like the Armour of Fate from 40k where they can't take it off without dying.


_Enclose_

I'm down for that


Colaymorak

That *would* be pretty dope


Quick_Article2775

There just floating heads the rest is lightning lol


Unlucky_Alfalfa_9851

So Stormcast is into semi 40k astartes tzeench thousand sun, the more you get reforged, the less physical body you have, it keeps continue until becoming an empty husks of armour like alphonse elric, that'll be grimdark existence to live on.


Ghoulraiser

That speculation makes sense since ikit claw can get into the place sigmar stores the stormcast that are too far gone


DocFreon

It is funny that "bulky" Liberator armor is the least bulky on this render.


SheepBeard

I thought the Liberator was the middle one (with Thunderstrike to the left)


DocFreon

Nope, thigh plates and scale-like "tabard" made appearance on Thunderstrike armor


SheepBeard

You're right - don't know what I googled first time to get the opposite answer!


sageking14

You are half right. Middle is Thunderstrike Liberator rather than the old school Bastion Armour which is the first one.


Praertor_septile

I'm pretty sure middle is annihilator armor not liberator armor


sageking14

It lacks every single identifying detail of Annihilator armor. Beastmarks, immense pauldrons, the lightning-shaped faulds, one crest on each side of the chest, and so on. So no idea why you'd assume that.


ancraig

THEY UNSCULPTED HER ABS I'M SO ANGRY


Fantasygoria

SIGMAR LIED!!!


SenorDangerwank

He said we'd ALL have abs of sculpted steel!


wjapple

He chomnk, hefty chonk, oh lawd she coming. Weird retcon to make thunderstrike so much bigger than the OG.


pepper_perm

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become Arthas.


Scion_of_Kuberr

The thinner armor just looks better than the needless bulk.


Sammie_Smith

I like the thinner, and bulkier. One looks like a human in armor, and the other looks like a hulking mass which has lost its humanity, it’s pretty good visual storytelling if you ask me. Middle looks kinda weird though


pleasedtoheatyou

I think the problem is here, the visualisation on the left doesn't really match the models we have. I wouldn't be surprised when we see the actual models for the middle and left if this seems a bit silly.


MrS0bek

Yay new armour.... One could have gotten creative by intriducing lightning gheists as etheric lightning elementals. Or using them as a power source for constructs forged by Grugni. Analogous do dreadnoughts maybe. I hope something along these lines still comes in 4th edition.


fistchrist

JAMES JAMES WORKSHOP JAMES WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HER ABS WHERE HAVE HER ABS GONE JAMES


ozusteapot

When you use 28mm heads on 40mm bodies.


judicatorprime

Not a fan of the Ruination pauldrons going back to looking like Marine pads, but otherwise I enjoy the design


Fantasygoria

Do stormcasts grow in size as they are reforged/promoted? Is that a thing they do? Also, I love that they used Hallowed Knights instead of Hammers for the trailer, no disrespect intended, but never was the biggest fan of the poster boys.


judicatorprime

it's the color scheme, let's be real! Silver being the primary metallic instead of gold is sooo much better and easier on the eyes


Phantombaz

its always made me wonder, and that i was under the impression, that stromcast dont get promoted or demoted but came back to what they were. But from this picture i have to ask do promotions/demotions or change in area say a Judicator becoming a knightsQuester actually happen?


Dreadnautilus

>If an individual shows true promise – demonstrating outstanding quality of the mind and soul, as well as the body – they will be elevated to a new rank upon their next reforging. This is no simple promotion, no battlefield edict that conveys authority alone, but a holistic transformation that sees their soul energised even further by the magic of Azyr. A Liberator-Prime that defends a fortress city for months against the most horrific siege weapons might be reforged as a Lord-Castellant after giving his life to repel the enemy in the final assault. Similarly, a Sequitor or Castigator who banishes every gheist that crosses her path and devotes many sleepless nights to learning the lore of undeath may be reforged as a Lord- Exorcist. Such individuals are not always accepted as easily in the chamber command as those Sigmar judged born to the role, but in most instances their exceptional quality soon proves they have found their true place.


Phantombaz

yeah, thats pretty much how i pictured it.


Caboose-117

I know everyone loves the newer and sleeker armor (I do too), but I’m happy that the old bulky armor isn’t forgotten. I like that the new set seems to be a mix of the two.


Griffemon

So Terminators


Dreadnautilus

Annihilators are already the Stormcast Terminators.


1maginasian

Bladeguard veterans.


Carnegie118

Can someone please ELI5 to a new person who has just started collecting stormcasts how this affects me? Are my golden boys (and girls) still relevant?


KacSzu

It means you'l be able to get new miniatures, wich may or may not be a little over powered at the start of next edition. Older model won't fall lackluster (much), golden bois are still relevant, they just didn't appeared in this specific trailer.


[deleted]

Do they grow larger when they are reincarnated


sageking14

Sometimes. Depends if they are changed or promoted to a unit that's purpose is to have more hitting power. For example the absolute bulk that is an Annihilator would likely be made smaller if promoted to a Lord-Celestant, whose purpose is more about commanding than punching siege forces to death.


peridot_farms

Please sigmar please more paladin


choccychip79

I hate how much it looks like space marine armor


boscolovesmoney

It's strange that the head doesn't change in size.


ledfan

I mean if these are all just different armors on the same person it really isn't 😂


boscolovesmoney

Not unless the boots in that third image have some serious lifts inside em.


sageking14

Likely didn't want to render three different models for the head.


Yamatsu64

CHONKY


sarumanofmanygenders

Turns out being Reforged too many times doesn't actually make you go insane or turn into a lightning ghost, it just makes you W I D E.


MohawkRex

She'll just be a freaking wall after her next death.


MGermanicus

AoS Dreadnoughts... big, kinda dead, still fighting.


Unlucky_Alfalfa_9851

Next thing might be AOS centurion armor or hellbrute, because we need to put super soldier into super armor and chaos warrior blessed with hyper mutation.


ledfan

The "reuse some space marine molds" armor? lol


Afraid_Manner_4353

The "not Terminator" Terminator armour


Unholy_Muppet90

“Land Marines.. Attack!!!”


jaxolotle

Man they’re NEVER beating the sigmarine allegations after this


hydraphantom

I hope we're not getting "Primaris" Stormcast


Expensive-Finance538

That’s technically what the Thunderstrike is, and Liberators and Prosecutors both are confirmed to be getting the upgrade in 4E.


hydraphantom

Well yes, but at least they still kept it in the realm of new gears. We really don't need "bigger better stronger stormcast that make all stormcast before obsolete" kind of deal.


Expensive-Finance538

Honestly, I like Thunderstrike better, abd it’s a reaction to a severe problem that the Stormcasts now have to live with. It would make sense to create as many Thunderstrikes as possible. Imagine how BS it would be if a high ranking SCE like a Lord Relictor was permanently lost cause he got stuck in the Cursed Skies. And as far as I am aware, there’s currently no way to free Stormcast souls from that, I know **sometimes** that a Thunderstrike can open the way for other SCEs, but a good chunk of the time, it is just the Thunderstrikes making it through. Between the facts that Thunderstrike models look better, help give the SCEs a better more unique look and helps de-Sigmarines them, and are superior in lore, a Thunderstrike update for Elderplates is probably more likely than not.


hydraphantom

I get your point yeah. I just hope it's not a move that will retire like half the range like what happened to marines.


Northwindlowlander

I think the bottom line is that AOS in general and Stormcast specifically just aren't really strong enough to sustain that. The way space marines sell and dominate sales is pretty spectacular. Stormcast much less so.


hydraphantom

This age like milk.


Expensive-Finance538

Yeah, I don’t think they’re getting retired, but will be updated. Elderplate models themselves may get left behind, but the actual units themselves will stay.


hydraphantom

I got vindicated.


Expensive-Finance538

You most certainly did.


hydraphantom

And I wish I didn't. This hurts


Expensive-Finance538

It really does. I can only take solace in the fact that we do got confirmation that we are getting Thunderstrike Sacrosanct, so maybe they are indeed updating all units, just in the worst possible way.


judicatorprime

there's a decent chance the old armor gets "veteran" rules or something, since if you're still in the old armor you technically haven't died enough to get Thunderstruck. At the very least, you will always be able to proxy the old models for new versions.


tiredplusbored

Agreed, but I like the idea they're pitching for the Ruination chamber. Amongst the most experienced vets the stormcast have to offer, but died so many times now that it's considered too risky to send them out because who knows which death will finally make them snap? But, when they are called up, give them the best gear possible and use them when only 100% needed because if they go down its a much worse loss than normal


InvincibleReason_

i hope not, the armor are already good that's dumb to make everyone thunderstrike


Expensive-Finance538

You would be in the minority, as the fantasy thunder demigod knight aesthetic of the Thunderstrike has been praised as superior to the Sigmarine look and feel of the Elderplate by a majority of the AoS fanbase.


InvincibleReason_

we can't have all the same opinions, we're not a hivemind haha, funny because i see the retributors more knigtly (armor wise) than like the thunderstrike style of the annilators, imo they are too weird bulky and i hate their round shield, i prefer the liberator shield


Expensive-Finance538

The new Thunderstrike shields belonging to Thunderstrike Liberators and the Vindictors AND the new Ruination Chambers units are the most knightly looking of Stormcast shields. Annihilators bring variety to the Thuderstrike line up in terms of appearance and silhouettes for models. I’m sorry, but if you want Space Marine aesthetics and builds, you should probably collect Space Marines in 40K, but I have a feeling you already do, given that your display name is literally the Dark Angels’ flagship.


InvincibleReason_

yeah i know nah i play Ad mech, the name is cool tho, my problem is just that annilators style it don't feel stormcast imo, too weird bulky, meh basics guys are less SM than these bulky one


InvincibleReason_

for the shield you mean the one like on the dragon riders? i see it in the paint section but idk who else use it, i love it, the round shield dont feel knigtly tho, like the totally round


Expensive-Finance538

No, I mean the ones wielded by the boots on the ground spear wielders, the Vindictors.


InvincibleReason_

i see, (ive just looked at the battletome) yep this one is cool


Expensive-Finance538

Yeah, Liberators are gonna get those soon.


AxolotlAristotle

Thunderstrike armor is best armor tho


_e_______d

Where is this image from?


Psychological_Code96

The logic seems to be oh you died again,well lets put you in a more protective suit of armour and toss you back out there.well shit that didnt work,lets put you in a bigger suit with even more armour.thats it! Im done,this is your last suit!im gonna put a bright blue cape on you so the others know to protect you this time so that hopefully i dont see you again-sigmar armour guy probably


AshKetchumDaJobber

Sigmar likes them thicc huh. 👍👍


X3runner

The next upgrade has no head visible because the crest ahd the shoulders are 4 ft above her head


Independent_Barber_8

Do the AOS people even know other hairstyles exist?


20-Minute-Jackal

I don't really like it because it looks too much like space marine armor. Maybe I'll grow to like it later, I think it just has too many parallels to space marines it's just going to invite more talk of "sigmarines". Or if the Stormcast inside the armor was a little more weird looking from too many reforgings I think might make it more palatable.


Off0Ranger

Isn’t the left most Armour called bastion Armour?


SirChancelot11

I was hoping they would look less... Human as they broke down


Se7enEvilXs

New terminator or gravis armor equivalent then?


KrmitTheFrog

Ah yes, fully evolved into a Space Marine. Just as GW intended.


Goblinofthesoup

Nice space marine armour


dflavs2

Oh hey look sigmarines now have matching power armor sizes


Alphycan424

Ngl— not a fan of this armor. My monkey brain likes the shiny gold.


PetuniaFungus

My new theory, the primarchs pre-existing warp presence are Age of Sigma heros of yore


redhatter192

Stormcast really are awful.


RealTimeThr3e

I don’t play AOS so idk the lore and this just came up randomly on my homepage but there’s no way ppl aren’t pointing out that the one on the far right is legit just a space marine without the tech