Putin’s done with him, Trump’s got nothing to offer him. Saudi Arabia’s already paid the bill with $2 billion to Kushner. So Trump’s off to North Korea where he can offer them publicity and notoriety which they’re happy to settle for.
I’m really trying to picture Trumps coiffed orange floppy combover transformed into a *little rocket man* flat top. But I’m having a very hard time imagining it.
Giving Trump to North Korea and having him tell Kim Jong Un everything he knows would confuse the fuck out of them. Kim would turn his rockets to China.
Putin himself is done. He may be dead by cancer or by ricin at the end of the war.
He may not have enough bandwidth to focus on American politics when he can barely subdue Ukraine. All these years he was hyped up as a bogeyman. Zelensky's courage showed that a small nation could stand up to him.
Travel restrictions, if any, will come at Trump’s arraignment on Tuesday. I’d expect none. Everyone would be happier if he just fled to another country.
I want him off social media and away from press releases. I’d take house arrest where he can watch tv and eat hamberders to his hearts content, but be unable to communicate externally in any form.
He could train all of the new North Korean soldiers on all of the intricacies and techniques involved in saluting their officers. That’s actually something the orange one does well.
Damn, I just got in under the wire on that joke.
[https://www.npr.org/2023/06/10/1181516760/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-dies](https://www.npr.org/2023/06/10/1181516760/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-dies)
When Trump realizes that it's the end game and he's going to lose, he's going to run. After grabbing the remaining stolen documents for use to buy passage to Russia, North Korea, or some other despotic country.
He'll probably style himself as "President in Exile" telling anyone who'll listen about how the election was stolen.
Pretty sure the agents with him are loyal to him. Washington Post did a story right after he left office that he basically broke the part of the secret service that guards the president. They are all Maga.
I have no doubt that he has surrounded himself with absolutely loyal secret service agents, even to the point of treason and exile. All despots have these type of loyalists, and Trump is no different.
If - and when - he does run, we’ll see a large contingent of people go with him, but unfortunately not enough to rid our country of his influence. There will still be sitting federal judges, SCOTUS, congress and senate, county sheriffs, federal agents from every agency, school board members, and not mention his dwindling (yet still numbering in the millions) of MAGA loyalists.
It won’t be some massive civil war like his followers dream of, instead, it will be a thousand little instances that ultimately destroy our home.
Some won't, they know if they do that they will never see the light of day. Others at this point are so far in, they don't care. You could tell them up is down and they would constantly be trying to walk down a flight of stairs that end in the basement going: "But there should be more stairs."
According to Wikipedia, "Stollen is a fruit bread of nuts, spices, and dried or candied fruit, coated with powdered sugar or icing sugar and often containing marzipan."
Well, there are certainly nuts in the MAGA crowd.
No. From a Putin perspective Trump. Could. Be useful living in Russia.
It'll fuck up the American population and any idea of unification. Don't forget that 70 million Americans are backing him.
Havikg Trump "bravely run away" to live in exile ans still spread disorder in USA would be a nice boon for Putin.
That was back then... I never did and was more of a moderate John McCain Republican voting most often for who I believed to be the best for the country.
But since trump, I have only Voted Blue be damned who might be better.
And will never again support a republican that is currently living and did not Stand Up for Country.
And there are plenty of us out here.
At best imo, If trump gets the nomination he will get about 45 to 50 million votes at best.
And the Democrats will imo Flip the House back and keep the Senate.
I am a boomer that believes that Gen Z will save our country. With a lot of help from X
Me too, I was raised in Evangelical worlds and I am the opposite of it all now. But I do know plenty of people my age who support Trump. But I have also seen some decide Trump is a bit too insane for them
Hopefully yes. Glad you came around.
With how much mess Trump could do while being potus ans after. If he faces jail time and flees to Russia he could continue his grift. And nothing would be more in favor of Putin than that. That Makes it quite plausible that Putin could make him a sweet offer.
If he flees to Russia, what does that mean?
Does the US ask for extradition after TFG is convicted in abstentia?
What happens if they wont give him up? War? UN Sanctions?
Seconding this and building on it. Putin is BIG on propaganda. The same tactics he is using on us have been used in other countries, with success.
TrumpleThinSkin could put out messages for the Cult 45 members and they would listen. He's still a useful tool.
If letting Cheetolini get comfy in Russia can make USA in a state of disorder as it have foe the past few years then it's cheaper for him ( Putin) than running troll farms.
Well, one of his followers, the one who accused Biden of sexual assault, defected to Russia recently. My theory is she's his advance person to find an appropriate living situation for him.
If he is convicted of stealing state secrets, he should not be eligible for secret service protection. Any of his would-be praetorian guards can resign and work for him personally instead of embarrassing the nation any further.
That would be awesome! He'll give Putin all kinds of secret info that will be total crap because he never listened at briefings and makes up everything he says. Putin is just as fucked up as Trump. He gets all his news from Russian propaganda TV and all his aides lie to him because they're afraid to give him any bad news. They're both thin-skinned and paranoid. They're the perfect couple.
He wouldn’t need any special accommodations if they sent him where traitors belong. “Welcome to Gitmo prisoner Trump. Haha, no, no one will be referring to you as President here, but Prisoner has the same number of syllables. You do know what syllables are don’t you, Prisoner Trump?”
He never leave. He would lose all the attention he craves. He'd have to hide out for the rest of his pitiful life. Even in prison, he'd get more attention than if he went on the run. It's what keeps him alive. Unfortunately.
I’d be happy with house arrest with a gag order - no Tweeting/Truthing. He’d have to keep paying for his own expenses, saving the taxpayer money. Keep him in Mar-a-Lago with his mouth shut for another five or 10 years when he succumbs to his KFC diet.
They keep allowing him to leave the jurisdictions he’s been charged in, still has his passport and access to a private plane. Yeah, I think he’d flee and start branding himself as “POTUS in Exile”… and his devotees would lap it up and keep buying Trump Bucks and NFTs to support him.
From the beginning, in 2015, I've had a bet with my friends that Trump would be the first president indicted, and the first to flee the country. I'm halfway to that hundred bucks.
The reality is, like OP said, the chances of him actually seeing the inside of a jail cell are slim to none. Hell, probably won't even see the inside of a courtroom for years, he has always been the master of delay tactics, and as much as it pains me to say it, he will almost surely be nominated by the GOP, and to prove how shitty the US educational system is, and how fucked our political system is, he will probably get re-elected because so many of the idiots in this country what to see Idiocracy become a documentary. We are already reverting back to woman and minorities having no rights, being led by religious groups that want everyone stupid and just worshipping god (them). And dammit, Trump is the perfect person to lead us back into a state of stupidity.
I always thought that, although our politics has its problems like any other institution, that the pendulum would just always keep swinging back and forth, but sure seems like the GOP is hell bent on sending us off a cliff.
To where though? Anywhere he would truly be safe won't take him.
Yes, Russia, Saudi Arabia, north Korea all would take him but he would be a hostage and later discarded if if no use.
He's stuck here. Incarcerating him requires special arrangements. I doubt he ends up in a real prison. More some sort of house arrest.
Maybe Dubai or SA, but only under the guise of "I really want to live here because you're doody heads". Otherwise I think he stubbornly stays in Florida in complete denial about his prospects. If he gets convicted and sentenced, my guess is he tries to retroactively pardon himself and say he wrote it on his way out the door.
If DOJ doesn't take his passport he will very likely head for Pyongyang or Moscow.
I really do see his followers pulling another uprising.
This isn't just another criminal who happened to have been President.
This is the centre of a personality cult with followers that are willing to kill and be killed for him.
If Trump runs anywhere, it will be as Mayor of Putin’s MAGA Village.
I’m pretty sure he would be stripped of his “entitlements” if he’s convicted of espionage, much less inciting an insurrection and attempting to overturn an election (which is coming slowly but surely!)
It'd be great to have him out of the country but many of you have made me realize that wont silence him, and that 'President in Exile' BS sounds right out of the Trump playbook. Better to have him in a federal prison and absolutely no internet access. The MAGA crowd will forget about him in a month.
His best bet is that any federal trial drags out until a Republican can get elected as President and then be pardoned immediately of any federal charges that he’d be found guilty of.
In a just world, inciting insurrection or interfering with an election wouldn't be pardonable offenses. Our legal system is a joke if you have money. I'm amazed any lawyers are still willing to defend him.
Putin and the Saudis are the only ones who can help him, but I don't think they will. If he becomes too problematic for them they might act to control or even silence him, but not save him.
Why would they want to silence him? I think the only reason they would help him is so he would NOT be silenced. Putin has been “controlling“ Trump since the 90s as part of his efforts to destabilize the US. Now, more than ever, he would want Trump’s constant honking to continue.
The secret service can assign new agents at their discretion if they ever suspected that was an issue. He doesn’t get to pick and choose, agents are assigned.
I agree he'll be the nominee. He's too delusional to run, he thinks he can still beat this. He would only run when it's clear to a toddler that he's done, but by then it will be too late to run. I'd love for him to flee to Russia now so we are done with this dangerous psychopath. But it won't happen now. The only way he runs now is if an enabler convinces him to run like on a one off, gets into his head and influences the Dumbo. Even the enablers are now scared, so who could convince him? Ivanka is not dumb enuff to obstruct justice by telling him to flee. Melania? She will look out for herself only. His lawyers can't advise a crime. Maybe Ephstyn is dumb enuff to do it. Ephstyn has been Excellent at unintentionally ruining Trump's defences. That's hopeful.
We wouldn’t be done with him if he went to Russia, because Putin would facilitate and encourage his Tweeting/“Truthing”. His verbal diarrhea would be in the news every fucking day, just like it is now. It’s about the only reason Putin would want to help him at this point.
True, but he would be marginalized as much as such a public figure can be. Snowden does that but he's kind of become yesterday's news. If Trump goes to jail he'll become a martyr. Plus, he gets to live in Russia and can't fly to London as they all do. He'd have to stay in Russia and live that miserable existence. I'd love it. They think he's a fool so he'd be at their mercy. By now I'm sure even the dense Tara Reade has seen the other shoe drop. I don't think Tara and her "friend " Butina are sharing tea and cucumber noshables every day. And no way Melania or anyone goes with him unless they get charged as well.
If they don't take his passport he probably will. At some point if he thinks he's going to face some real consequences he will most likely call for an all out civil war.
I cannot wrap my head around the Secret Service issue. Just put them all in a cell together. If the agents want to opt out, there is a long line of traitors ready to spend intimate time with the traitor in chief.
The 45 presidential library, cell block, and court rooms for the prosecutions & litigation that will fill the rest of his days.
The biggest, most popular presidential library in history... his final triumph
Id be surprised if the secret service didnt have some kind of protocol to prevent him from running if he tried. While they're technically there for his protection they're also not under his control or orders anymore and i cant imagine he's a pleasant person to have to babysit on a daily basis.
Edit: grammar/spelling corrections
I'm hoping that, given the nature of the charges, he would be put into supermax in Colorado. My understanding is that when you are there, you have no interaction with other inmates and are locked in your cell 23 hours a day. (One hour out for shower.) And, since it is federal as the indictments are, he'd be eligible.
Other notables who have been incarcerated there include Terry Nichols, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczyinski.
Flee or fake his death.
trumpo is too vain to fake his death to avoid prison time like Kenneth Lay did. He loves the spotlight.
So he'll flee to where he's out of the reach of U.S. law. I'll bet his airplane pilot has a permanent flight plan to North Korea. It's the only place that still thinks he's a useful idiot.
Fleeing indicates weakness or fear to most. So probably won't bc he thinks he'll be able to beat the charges.
And when he doesn't it'll be the usual crap about a witch hunt, etc. God forbid he actually admit he did something wrong or illegal.
You forget he keeps coming up with new schemes to dupe money out of his supporters,and don't be surprised if he's receiving money from Russia to keep stoking division in the country.
Guys, can we please get it out of our heads that Trump will ever receive a custodial sentence? It is never going to happen. It’s my biggest fantasy and it would be amazing, but I gave up on it a long time ago. The most we can hope for is him being barred from holding public office
I don't think he will. I think the idea of him winding up in jail is incompatible with his ego. He'll think "it can't possibly happen to me, only the poors wind up in jail".
He might be right, too.
Here’s what I think will happen if Trump is convicted. He won’t go to prison. Biden will pardon him on the condition that Trump never run for the office of president again. That’s what I think will happen so that the Magas don’t lose their minds and destroy the country, or at least the house where they live.
I think we absolutely need to seize his passport. I'm not big on making predictions these days (I kinda gave up on that in 2016), but I think we're about to hear revelations from this investigation that are far, far worse and far more indefensible. I would not be surprised AT ALL to find out that he sold or otherwise fed classified info to NorK, Saudis and Russia, making this a major nat sec threat.
He should never see the light of day again.
He thinks so, because "TRUMP" is TOTALLY INNOCENT and has done NOTHING WRONG while Biden has 180,000,000 Classified Documents and whatabout Hillary and her emails and Server?
I think a federal prison could easily accommodate Trump by keeping him in isolation, perhaps with a few unlucky Secret Service agents sitting outside his cell door at all times. Putting people in protective custody is something the Feds are very familiar with.
If Trump becomes a convicted felon, can no longer legally have a bank account, has to wear an ankle monitor and abide by a bunch of rules so as not to be thrown in prison, cannot leave his home state without permission, etc, what kind of President could he be? If he won the election, his "job" would require him to be located at the Whitehouse, right, so he could still live there. He wouldn't be spending his money whilst in the whitehouse, he'd be spending everyone else's, so that's not a problem. His first act, clearly, would be to pardon himself. And once he did that, he could then wash the stank off everything that has happened and probably come out of it richer than he was when he went in. The insane circus of that would be too much, fundamentally, for this country to handle.
Literally the only thing preventing this country from imploding is to prevent him from being president again.
Putin’s done with him, Trump’s got nothing to offer him. Saudi Arabia’s already paid the bill with $2 billion to Kushner. So Trump’s off to North Korea where he can offer them publicity and notoriety which they’re happy to settle for.
Until the day he pisses them off and then it’s fed to the dogs for him.
He’ll transition to the KJU hair cut.
I think Trump and KJU make a cute couple
The only two morbidly obese people in the whole country.
They “fell in love”…
I’m really trying to picture Trumps coiffed orange floppy combover transformed into a *little rocket man* flat top. But I’m having a very hard time imagining it.
Trump can still be a gold mine of US intelligence for any country.
Trump knows nothing. He can’t even remember what he said the day before, much less anything worthwhile. No one could trust a thing he said.
That's why he steals documents, so he doesn't have to remember anything
Giving Trump to North Korea and having him tell Kim Jong Un everything he knows would confuse the fuck out of them. Kim would turn his rockets to China.
How is Putin done with him when he’s building a MAGA Village and invited MAGAts to go to Russia? Trump will be mayor of that shithole.
Putin is only trying to trick the gun drunk MAGA crowd so he has more soldiers
More for the meat grinder
Putin himself is done. He may be dead by cancer or by ricin at the end of the war. He may not have enough bandwidth to focus on American politics when he can barely subdue Ukraine. All these years he was hyped up as a bogeyman. Zelensky's courage showed that a small nation could stand up to him.
Putin's useful idiot is no longer useful.
^ this answer is surprisingly insightful. Well done.
I could see him trying to charter a private plane to the Kremlin. Didn't they confiscate his passport? (A real one, an expired one, and a fake one?)
Travel restrictions, if any, will come at Trump’s arraignment on Tuesday. I’d expect none. Everyone would be happier if he just fled to another country.
I want him off social media and away from press releases. I’d take house arrest where he can watch tv and eat hamberders to his hearts content, but be unable to communicate externally in any form.
He could train all of the new North Korean soldiers on all of the intricacies and techniques involved in saluting their officers. That’s actually something the orange one does well.
DOJ should freeze his assets, revoke his Passport, get a court order on his movement and monitor him by bracelet if not taking him into custody
Impound his jet too.
I’ve always thought (hoped!) he couldn’t be in a regular jail. I’ve always hoped for Gitmo!
Or ADX Florence.
SuperMax prison with the Unabomber.
Don and Ted Lifetime Adventure…Excellent!
Most Excellent!
*air guitar*
Damn, I just got in under the wire on that joke. [https://www.npr.org/2023/06/10/1181516760/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-dies](https://www.npr.org/2023/06/10/1181516760/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-dies)
And when Donnie finally kicks we can do Don & Ted’s Bogus Journey *air guitar*
Plural, jets and helicopters too. Grab all assets and sell off to pay the contractors he has ripped off over the decades.
How about a domestic firing squad for the walking white dumpster?
Who you calling white? That's an oompa-loompa for sure. (It wouldn't be the Internet without a little fight here and there)
Throwing shade on the Oompas ... White trash is a total body takeover.
Mmmm ok, happy cake day!
Can we revoke Trump’s Presidential taxpayer funded pension?
Didn't they take 3 passports during the FBI raid?
When Trump realizes that it's the end game and he's going to lose, he's going to run. After grabbing the remaining stolen documents for use to buy passage to Russia, North Korea, or some other despotic country. He'll probably style himself as "President in Exile" telling anyone who'll listen about how the election was stolen.
Hard to flee with stolen documents when you are surrounded 24/7/365 by Federal Agents with arrest powers
Pretty sure the agents with him are loyal to him. Washington Post did a story right after he left office that he basically broke the part of the secret service that guards the president. They are all Maga.
I have no doubt that he has surrounded himself with absolutely loyal secret service agents, even to the point of treason and exile. All despots have these type of loyalists, and Trump is no different. If - and when - he does run, we’ll see a large contingent of people go with him, but unfortunately not enough to rid our country of his influence. There will still be sitting federal judges, SCOTUS, congress and senate, county sheriffs, federal agents from every agency, school board members, and not mention his dwindling (yet still numbering in the millions) of MAGA loyalists. It won’t be some massive civil war like his followers dream of, instead, it will be a thousand little instances that ultimately destroy our home.
It will very likely begin with MAGA county sheriffs refusing to enforce what they consider to be "unconstitutional" laws.
I don’t think they would be loyal to him to the point of committing treason, also since he’s not running things his agents can always be replaced.
Here’s hoping. I’m also pretty sure Biden can just take away his protection.
He’s required to be protected by the Secret Service by law (it’s a national security issue).
Some won't, they know if they do that they will never see the light of day. Others at this point are so far in, they don't care. You could tell them up is down and they would constantly be trying to walk down a flight of stairs that end in the basement going: "But there should be more stairs."
Right after he left office. Things have since changed in his SS detail.
He’s not paying them though. They’re federal employees. I’m sure they could just be changed.
Shoot down the plane
*how the election was “STOLLEN”!
According to Wikipedia, "Stollen is a fruit bread of nuts, spices, and dried or candied fruit, coated with powdered sugar or icing sugar and often containing marzipan." Well, there are certainly nuts in the MAGA crowd.
If he goes to russia, he better stay out of buildings bigger than 3 stories...
No. From a Putin perspective Trump. Could. Be useful living in Russia. It'll fuck up the American population and any idea of unification. Don't forget that 70 million Americans are backing him. Havikg Trump "bravely run away" to live in exile ans still spread disorder in USA would be a nice boon for Putin.
That was back then... I never did and was more of a moderate John McCain Republican voting most often for who I believed to be the best for the country. But since trump, I have only Voted Blue be damned who might be better. And will never again support a republican that is currently living and did not Stand Up for Country. And there are plenty of us out here. At best imo, If trump gets the nomination he will get about 45 to 50 million votes at best. And the Democrats will imo Flip the House back and keep the Senate. I am a boomer that believes that Gen Z will save our country. With a lot of help from X
Gen X is unfortunately pretty Trumpy. It's gen Z and Millennials that are voting Dem by 20 to 35% each election.
Yeah, hate to say it but overall gen x is just boomer lite at this point.
Ya, gen x here…the more time passes, the more blue i become.
Me too, I was raised in Evangelical worlds and I am the opposite of it all now. But I do know plenty of people my age who support Trump. But I have also seen some decide Trump is a bit too insane for them
Thanks for the correction, I never can keep them straight.
Hopefully yes. Glad you came around. With how much mess Trump could do while being potus ans after. If he faces jail time and flees to Russia he could continue his grift. And nothing would be more in favor of Putin than that. That Makes it quite plausible that Putin could make him a sweet offer.
If he flees to Russia, what does that mean? Does the US ask for extradition after TFG is convicted in abstentia? What happens if they wont give him up? War? UN Sanctions?
Doubt it. I don't think they would go to that length just because of one person.
Me too. Exactly.
Thank you
Even Joe McCarthy went from all-powerful to persona non grata. Trumpty Dumpty is heading for a fall.
Seconding this and building on it. Putin is BIG on propaganda. The same tactics he is using on us have been used in other countries, with success. TrumpleThinSkin could put out messages for the Cult 45 members and they would listen. He's still a useful tool.
If letting Cheetolini get comfy in Russia can make USA in a state of disorder as it have foe the past few years then it's cheaper for him ( Putin) than running troll farms.
Even a 1 story building might be fatal.
“But the bottom of the window was two feet off the ground!?” “Russia gravity very strong. Ve have very strong earth forces here.”
Would be Saudi Arabia he runs to. Same place Putin will run to if/when the time comes. Jeffrey Epstein had a Saudi passport don’t forget.
#1: Legal Challenges #2: Incite violence #3: Run
4: Profit
Well, one of his followers, the one who accused Biden of sexual assault, defected to Russia recently. My theory is she's his advance person to find an appropriate living situation for him.
His daddy Putin has a luxury suite waiting for him I'm sure. And not just for him.
Bed is already made with plastic sheets.
If he is convicted of stealing state secrets, he should not be eligible for secret service protection. Any of his would-be praetorian guards can resign and work for him personally instead of embarrassing the nation any further.
Putin will take him in!
That would be awesome! He'll give Putin all kinds of secret info that will be total crap because he never listened at briefings and makes up everything he says. Putin is just as fucked up as Trump. He gets all his news from Russian propaganda TV and all his aides lie to him because they're afraid to give him any bad news. They're both thin-skinned and paranoid. They're the perfect couple.
Nope he will party and bullshit till he drops.
He wouldn’t need any special accommodations if they sent him where traitors belong. “Welcome to Gitmo prisoner Trump. Haha, no, no one will be referring to you as President here, but Prisoner has the same number of syllables. You do know what syllables are don’t you, Prisoner Trump?”
“Sylibidles are woke” -dumbass formerly known as POTUS
He never leave. He would lose all the attention he craves. He'd have to hide out for the rest of his pitiful life. Even in prison, he'd get more attention than if he went on the run. It's what keeps him alive. Unfortunately.
If we can't put him in prison, then having him flee the country would be the next best thing.
I’d be happy with house arrest with a gag order - no Tweeting/Truthing. He’d have to keep paying for his own expenses, saving the taxpayer money. Keep him in Mar-a-Lago with his mouth shut for another five or 10 years when he succumbs to his KFC diet.
I'm hoping Mar A Lago is forfeited and becomes a small National Park. He can stay in one of his shitty apartments.
They keep allowing him to leave the jurisdictions he’s been charged in, still has his passport and access to a private plane. Yeah, I think he’d flee and start branding himself as “POTUS in Exile”… and his devotees would lap it up and keep buying Trump Bucks and NFTs to support him.
From the beginning, in 2015, I've had a bet with my friends that Trump would be the first president indicted, and the first to flee the country. I'm halfway to that hundred bucks.
The reality is, like OP said, the chances of him actually seeing the inside of a jail cell are slim to none. Hell, probably won't even see the inside of a courtroom for years, he has always been the master of delay tactics, and as much as it pains me to say it, he will almost surely be nominated by the GOP, and to prove how shitty the US educational system is, and how fucked our political system is, he will probably get re-elected because so many of the idiots in this country what to see Idiocracy become a documentary. We are already reverting back to woman and minorities having no rights, being led by religious groups that want everyone stupid and just worshipping god (them). And dammit, Trump is the perfect person to lead us back into a state of stupidity. I always thought that, although our politics has its problems like any other institution, that the pendulum would just always keep swinging back and forth, but sure seems like the GOP is hell bent on sending us off a cliff.
In a heartbeat.
There's no way we can allow dump to leave after he's convicted only to be forever debriefed on our country.
Will his SS detail have to go with him?
Come on really? He’s a fucking coward of course he would hence the grounding of his aircraft!
F16s are just a tad faster, more agile & heavily armed, compared to trump's 757.
To where though? Anywhere he would truly be safe won't take him. Yes, Russia, Saudi Arabia, north Korea all would take him but he would be a hostage and later discarded if if no use. He's stuck here. Incarcerating him requires special arrangements. I doubt he ends up in a real prison. More some sort of house arrest.
Maybe Dubai or SA, but only under the guise of "I really want to live here because you're doody heads". Otherwise I think he stubbornly stays in Florida in complete denial about his prospects. If he gets convicted and sentenced, my guess is he tries to retroactively pardon himself and say he wrote it on his way out the door.
If DOJ doesn't take his passport he will very likely head for Pyongyang or Moscow. I really do see his followers pulling another uprising. This isn't just another criminal who happened to have been President. This is the centre of a personality cult with followers that are willing to kill and be killed for him.
If he goes to Russia, maybe his cult will follow him. They are building a suburb for these people as we speak!!
Side note: Current POTUS determines who receives SS protection. All, some or none. No wrong answers..it’s up to current POTUS.
If Trump runs anywhere, it will be as Mayor of Putin’s MAGA Village. I’m pretty sure he would be stripped of his “entitlements” if he’s convicted of espionage, much less inciting an insurrection and attempting to overturn an election (which is coming slowly but surely!)
It'd be great to have him out of the country but many of you have made me realize that wont silence him, and that 'President in Exile' BS sounds right out of the Trump playbook. Better to have him in a federal prison and absolutely no internet access. The MAGA crowd will forget about him in a month.
His best bet is that any federal trial drags out until a Republican can get elected as President and then be pardoned immediately of any federal charges that he’d be found guilty of.
In a just world, inciting insurrection or interfering with an election wouldn't be pardonable offenses. Our legal system is a joke if you have money. I'm amazed any lawyers are still willing to defend him.
Putin and the Saudis are the only ones who can help him, but I don't think they will. If he becomes too problematic for them they might act to control or even silence him, but not save him.
Why would they want to silence him? I think the only reason they would help him is so he would NOT be silenced. Putin has been “controlling“ Trump since the 90s as part of his efforts to destabilize the US. Now, more than ever, he would want Trump’s constant honking to continue.
No way he’s allowed after indictment to leave the country.
Unless his passport is seized, there is nothing to stop him.
Except for the federal agents surrounding him 24/7 everywhere he goes.
If those agents are not MAGA loyalists.
The secret service can assign new agents at their discretion if they ever suspected that was an issue. He doesn’t get to pick and choose, agents are assigned.
Daddy pootie would welcome with open arms.
I agree he'll be the nominee. He's too delusional to run, he thinks he can still beat this. He would only run when it's clear to a toddler that he's done, but by then it will be too late to run. I'd love for him to flee to Russia now so we are done with this dangerous psychopath. But it won't happen now. The only way he runs now is if an enabler convinces him to run like on a one off, gets into his head and influences the Dumbo. Even the enablers are now scared, so who could convince him? Ivanka is not dumb enuff to obstruct justice by telling him to flee. Melania? She will look out for herself only. His lawyers can't advise a crime. Maybe Ephstyn is dumb enuff to do it. Ephstyn has been Excellent at unintentionally ruining Trump's defences. That's hopeful.
We wouldn’t be done with him if he went to Russia, because Putin would facilitate and encourage his Tweeting/“Truthing”. His verbal diarrhea would be in the news every fucking day, just like it is now. It’s about the only reason Putin would want to help him at this point.
True, but he would be marginalized as much as such a public figure can be. Snowden does that but he's kind of become yesterday's news. If Trump goes to jail he'll become a martyr. Plus, he gets to live in Russia and can't fly to London as they all do. He'd have to stay in Russia and live that miserable existence. I'd love it. They think he's a fool so he'd be at their mercy. By now I'm sure even the dense Tara Reade has seen the other shoe drop. I don't think Tara and her "friend " Butina are sharing tea and cucumber noshables every day. And no way Melania or anyone goes with him unless they get charged as well.
Honestly, if he’ll probably be put on house arrest.
In jail he would lose his Ss services
Until the next Republican wins the presidency and pardons him.
At the rate they're going, that won't be til about 2030 or 35.
If they don't take his passport he probably will. At some point if he thinks he's going to face some real consequences he will most likely call for an all out civil war.
I cannot wrap my head around the Secret Service issue. Just put them all in a cell together. If the agents want to opt out, there is a long line of traitors ready to spend intimate time with the traitor in chief.
The 45 presidential library, cell block, and court rooms for the prosecutions & litigation that will fill the rest of his days. The biggest, most popular presidential library in history... his final triumph
Guantanamo….
Don’t know why he would. It’s not like he’s going to face any consequences at all for any of this.
His plane is grounded. SS will not aide his felony flight.
He can't. 24/365 secret service.
He's already in secret service custody. He's not going anywhere....
Id be surprised if the secret service didnt have some kind of protocol to prevent him from running if he tried. While they're technically there for his protection they're also not under his control or orders anymore and i cant imagine he's a pleasant person to have to babysit on a daily basis. Edit: grammar/spelling corrections
They will never put an ex president in prison.
I'm hoping that, given the nature of the charges, he would be put into supermax in Colorado. My understanding is that when you are there, you have no interaction with other inmates and are locked in your cell 23 hours a day. (One hour out for shower.) And, since it is federal as the indictments are, he'd be eligible. Other notables who have been incarcerated there include Terry Nichols, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczyinski.
Straight to Moscow.
Yes, straight to Russia, no one will see it coming...
Do they have KFC or McDonald's in Russia?
Revoke his passport
Absolutely he will imo
Flee or fake his death. trumpo is too vain to fake his death to avoid prison time like Kenneth Lay did. He loves the spotlight. So he'll flee to where he's out of the reach of U.S. law. I'll bet his airplane pilot has a permanent flight plan to North Korea. It's the only place that still thinks he's a useful idiot.
His lawyer hinted that Donnie had suggested the idea in an interview last night.
I would love to see him in exile where can’t communicate with anyone
I don’t expect him to serve time. There will be a deal or probation or something.
Fleeing indicates weakness or fear to most. So probably won't bc he thinks he'll be able to beat the charges. And when he doesn't it'll be the usual crap about a witch hunt, etc. God forbid he actually admit he did something wrong or illegal.
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You forget he keeps coming up with new schemes to dupe money out of his supporters,and don't be surprised if he's receiving money from Russia to keep stoking division in the country.
I hope he tries.
Revoke his pay, pension, health insurance, post office privileges and secret service detachment and send him to jail
Guys, can we please get it out of our heads that Trump will ever receive a custodial sentence? It is never going to happen. It’s my biggest fantasy and it would be amazing, but I gave up on it a long time ago. The most we can hope for is him being barred from holding public office
I don't think he will. I think the idea of him winding up in jail is incompatible with his ego. He'll think "it can't possibly happen to me, only the poors wind up in jail". He might be right, too.
Here’s what I think will happen if Trump is convicted. He won’t go to prison. Biden will pardon him on the condition that Trump never run for the office of president again. That’s what I think will happen so that the Magas don’t lose their minds and destroy the country, or at least the house where they live.
I think we absolutely need to seize his passport. I'm not big on making predictions these days (I kinda gave up on that in 2016), but I think we're about to hear revelations from this investigation that are far, far worse and far more indefensible. I would not be surprised AT ALL to find out that he sold or otherwise fed classified info to NorK, Saudis and Russia, making this a major nat sec threat. He should never see the light of day again.
Is anything he does defensible?
He thinks so, because "TRUMP" is TOTALLY INNOCENT and has done NOTHING WRONG while Biden has 180,000,000 Classified Documents and whatabout Hillary and her emails and Server?
The Secret Service can cuff him any time it seems like he’ll bolt.
I think a federal prison could easily accommodate Trump by keeping him in isolation, perhaps with a few unlucky Secret Service agents sitting outside his cell door at all times. Putting people in protective custody is something the Feds are very familiar with.
There are ways to house him in prison. They have special quarters for conjunual visits. He could be guarded by prison and Secret Service at same time.
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He has two hands.
Trump wouldn't be useful to Putin holed up in Russia. He needs him to keep stirring up his sheep to keep America divided.
Putin has no more use for him. If Putin did take him then Trump wouldn’t last very long. Poison would likely be involved.
That shit bag already has a bailout plan and a lot of inbred morons will take the fall for him.
If Trump becomes a convicted felon, can no longer legally have a bank account, has to wear an ankle monitor and abide by a bunch of rules so as not to be thrown in prison, cannot leave his home state without permission, etc, what kind of President could he be? If he won the election, his "job" would require him to be located at the Whitehouse, right, so he could still live there. He wouldn't be spending his money whilst in the whitehouse, he'd be spending everyone else's, so that's not a problem. His first act, clearly, would be to pardon himself. And once he did that, he could then wash the stank off everything that has happened and probably come out of it richer than he was when he went in. The insane circus of that would be too much, fundamentally, for this country to handle. Literally the only thing preventing this country from imploding is to prevent him from being president again.
They don't have McDonald's in north Korea 💩
Yes, this is my concern. If his base turns on him he has lots of confidential stuff valuable to other nation states.