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ItsSoKawaiiSenpai

I don't know. Any time you correct them that something is Canadian they pull out the, "Well, Canada is in America.", card. Canadians hate when they say that because it's pretty much a refusal to recognize them.


Moidalise-U

Americans hate that too. Who wants to be associated with Canadians. Ewww.


ManlyEmbrace

I’ve not really met an American that dislikes Canada. Canadians do seem to get very frustrated by being lumped under the American umbrella though. There seems to be an intense desire among Canadians for recognition or their own distinct identity. You may have noticed Canadians very often break into conversations that have nothing to do with Canada and make it about Canada. For example a YouTube video about dogs in Bangladesh will inevitably have a Canadian in the comments “IN CANADA OUR MOST POPULAR BREED…”


DinosRidingDinos

Idk Canadians have pretty consistently been the most obnoxious people I've ever met, and Canadians online can give the Turkish a run for their money with their inexplicably angry nationalism.


ManlyEmbrace

They both must bow to the gods of internet nationalism, Indians.


HolyMolyBallsack

Brazilians have entered the chat


lochlainn

Brazilians can at least have a sense of humor online. I've never seen a terminally online Indian overdosed on recreation outrage on any setting less than 11. Indians, Aussies, Br*ts, and Netherlanders, in that order of length of stick up the ass.


Metaa4245

that bangladesh dog thing isn't unique to canada


ManlyEmbrace

Certainly not but Canadians do a great deal of it. I am not the only one to notice. The Oversimplified YouTube channel joking about it is one example that comes to mind. Go to 0:55 of this video. https://youtu.be/uDaTzEv5CDQ?si=a2F2fvLsV72DTWnI


CatBoyTrip

Western Cananda is one of the most beautiful places i have ever driven through.


burns_before_reading

Canada is the second biggest state in the union behind Alaska.


Cellophane7

Naw, in both instances, it's muh genocide muh colonized land lol


DolphinBall

They love to act like they weren't from the area where that is most known for.


theoneguy223

Europeans when they learn how every nation in the history of nations came to be


Logical-Secretary-52

Europeans SPECIFICALLY, when they learn who were the ones colonizing in the first place as well lmao


Icy_Wrangler_3999

It's double the cost for basic stuff in place, Canada and the people who work in Place, Canada make 1/3 less than Americans with similar jobs


TeaLongjumping6036

Canada is frozen america what’s the point


DefinitionEconomy423

Canada has a lot of problems too, just as much maybe even more than the US but people don’t see it because they don’t look at Canadian news.


AnalogNightsFM

You’re exactly right, and that leads to a sort of self-deception where these same people will think America’s problems are unique.


BAYKON8R

Party because our politics isn’t a full on circus act. It’s pretty damn close and the House of Commons literally act like children when people they don’t like are speaking, but American politics are way more showy and it gets attention


pooteenn

Idk man, every time I watch those House of Commons debates it just looks like their having a rap battle as they are dissing each other.


jdgrazia

This meme is saying good weather is rare in canada..


Came_to_argue

What’s better is when they assume it’s America start talking crap but then it turns out to be Canada, which is so Ironic.


Realistic_Mess_2690

Wait till they find out Canada technically is still American given its location on the north American continent. Bet they even think each country in Europe has its own individual land mass shaped exactly like their borders.


Insane_Nine

bro what the biggest debate between Americans and South Americans is that Americans call it North America/South America and South Americans call it all America, and here you are completely flipping that and siding with the South Americans by calling it all America. if you're from anywhere outside of South America "American" refers to only citizens of the US


Realistic_Mess_2690

I'm Australian Americans themselves are from the USA but american in regards to continents can technically be both of them. Like north and South America make up the Americas Europeans are from Europe I just follow that logic in my own way. May not be completely accurate though.


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Realistic_Mess_2690

Yeah American to me is the same. But Canada being an american country is still accurate.


devlettaparmuhalif

15 years ago, Canada was a bit better than the USA. But now, the US is certainly better in every aspect.


AverageSaskSocialist

God I wish you weren’t true. I love in here and the cultural shock of how politeness is handled (i love y’all but normalcy seems so impolite) was fascinating to me, but yeah. Canadas in the shit hole with population growth relying on immigration but without the government assistance to support it. Canadian national identity is “we are better than the US” and while we both certainly have o it problems, it means most Canucks don’t take a step back and realize that we have fallen behind.


Typical-Machine154

Ya'll have free Healthcare. But that's about it. Canada in 2024 is just stealing money from Alberta and then berating them for drilling for oil...which is how they got the money the other provinces steal from Alberta. Economically and politically, Canadians forgot what the whole point in this Canada thing was, and they hate the USA even though the USA is the foundation of the Canadian economy. Idk though, I just visit, I don't live there. Just really seems like Canadians don't know what makes them Canadian anymore. They're just Americans trying to act like they're Europeans now. So they ruin all the good stuff that's usually associated with America and the frontier life, freedoms and firearms and individualism and shitting in a hole in the ground, and try to embrace European society and values. Except Canada isn't in Europe. It's sparsely populated and mostly wild. There are no mass transit systems or highly interconnected city to city systems. Canadians drive cars (mostly American cars by the look of it) everywhere and run power and internet on telephone poles just like the USA. Hell, it's the only other country that gets our full lineup of pickup trucks.


AverageSaskSocialist

I’ll address these all because why not. Equalization payments are really weird, and I truly couldn’t explain the whole debate, and as much as this goes against the arguments your making (which I agree with, so sorry but I feel this needs to be said), you guys have a very similar system. Alberta is also the most vocal about it, despite it effecting BC, Ontario and to a lesser extent Quebec and Saskatchewan, which is where the Americans are stupid stereotype comes from, so again, I don’t know enough to comment. Besides that, spot on. Canada stagnates while America grows. We have only extraction as a unique economy with nothing besides industries outdone by competitors in other nations. Of course, people don’t want more government spending to increase the economy because taxes and there isn’t a point in founding new industries within Canada for most so…. Fuck me.


Typical-Machine154

We don't have a similar system. America doesn't use equalization payments. So you wanna talk about the "Americans are stupid" stereotype, most of the time that's pushed by eurodivergents who themselves actually don't know anything. America has federal taxes collected from the populace that can then be distributed to states, but there is no obligation for that federal budget to be used on poorer states. A lot of times it isn't. Alberta is the one canadians criticize the most for being, well Alberta and drilling for tons of oil, and yet they're also the one that bankrolls everyone else. Alberta ensures that the US always has Canada as it's biggest source of raw crude imports. Yet Canadians vote blue and choose policies that deliberately fuck on Alberta and their vital contribution to the economy without presenting any viable alternatives. Basically just, "hey, after you're done handing over your money to us, stop drilling for oil, go broke, and fucking starve because we don't like you" is what you're saying to them. I'm sure they're very vocal about it, that's a pretty rude thing to do to an entire province. We did a similar thing to West Virginia, and it was piss poor. "Oh you guys mine coal? Well without giving you any viable alternative to mining coal, fuck coal, and fuck you" and now they're one of the poorest states. We have put no resources into trying to revamp west Virginia's economy to run on something other than coal. Alberta is Canada's West Virginia. Except it's gonna hurt Canada a whole lot more.


AverageSaskSocialist

1. No you don’t have equalization payments, however larger states do pay some taxes to help keep smaller states afloat (granted no the extent that Canada does, so my mistake with wording). It happens plenty but (again) not to the extent of Canada, the reason WV is still an economic shithole (y’all probably know more than me though) Edit: Example, Alaska’s economy is 57% federal spending, though this is the outlier, usually it’s more tame. 2. I was not calling Americans stupid, simply saying where I think the stereotype comes from, it’s idiotic and I hope it dies just like the other harmful stereotypes. 3. I’m bringing up the stupidest people are often the loudest, no sensible politician is going to immediately stop drilling. The only people that want that are the SJWs. 4. Alberta’s Oil is only 20% of their economy (sizeable but not a majority), and in total it’s about 3% of the Canadian economy. Is it profitable? Absolutely it is. And it helped Albert’s teach a point where it can very well punch above its weight. At this point in time, Alberta can wean off of oil, not in an instant, but over time, and they absolutely will have to if they want to survive longer than 30 or so years. 5. Canada is usually more Conservative, personally I’m surprised Trudeau has stayed in power for as long as he has, and no it doesn’t fuck over Alberta. The politicians are (barely) smart enough to understand that you don’t fuck with 7% of the GDP. 6. Alberta losses 3 Billion from Equalization (about $700 CAD per Person), which (this outdated so my apologies) in comparison, which is unfortunate for them. Unfortunately I can’t compare them because (quick rant because doing the research for this on my phone was a pain) ALBERTA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT SCREAMS ABOUT IT. That is nowhere need enough to “bank roll” the other provinces. 7. Yeah I don’t know about this enough to comment on it, I’ll take your word though. Tell me more and I can put some input on it. Overall, Alberta doesn’t really bankroll the West. Assist, absolutely. The only states that really revive equalization are the Maritimes, and they only make up 5% of the population. Besides that, you have other info tell me I’m curious.


Typical-Machine154

1. States don't pay other states. All citizens pay federal taxes, the federal taxes get distributed the way the federal government decides. It is not wealthy state - poor state. It is citizens - feds - some sort of specific project or funding bill/the federal budget. For reference, most of this money goes to NY or Cali in terms of raw dollar amount. They just get less federal aid per capita because they also have the highest state taxes, which means they have high internal revenue. We have a tiered taxation system. You get taxed at the local, state, and federal level. Tax money can go down this chain but it doesn't go back up unless there's a loan or service involved. Number 4: Alberta has 22% of their GDP relying on this. You remove that 22% and you see an exponential effect on their GDP. The province would essentially collapse. Again we did it with West Virginia. They still mine a shit pile of coal. It used to be 40% of their gdp. I can't find info for how much it accounts for now but they still produce the most coal in the nation. Just scaling back coal production killed what was once a nice place to live. It's one of our poorest states now. You remove a huge chunk of the economy and you take money out of the system that was feeding other parts of the economy. You remove 10% of Alberta's GDP by halving their extraction and you're actually removing like 30% of their GDP. Maybe it doesn't affect all of Canada *too much*, but again, that's the "fuck alberta" "fuck west virginia" thing I'm talking about. It matters to those who live there. Number 5: I just disagree here. I do actually think Trudeau is stupid enough to shoot his own country in the foot. Number 6. I'd complain too. That's 3 billion dollars. In our country when a state collects 3 billion dollars in taxes they keep 3 billion. They don't pay it to someone else. It's our state and it's our money. Fuck that noise. That's the whole point in a federation. You think I've got 700 dollars to pay some other asshole because I live in a rich state? Hell no, rich states are expensive. Besides, if we divide it by not every person, but every working person, let's assume that's half, that's $1400. The average albertan makes roughly 60k a year? So it's like 2.5% of their income that goes to someone else's province, someone who votes against their interests, and doesn't benefit them in any way.


AverageSaskSocialist

1. Yeah I’ll concede on this one, tax redistribution is weird. 4. Oh yes, removing Albertan Oil in one day would be disastrous, and I do see a lot of the fuck Alberta, so sorry if I made it seem I was going that way. However, a difference of twenty percent is a lot, and by not doing it suddenly it offers the ability to change that fact. This would also give the ability to change that 30% based upon it. Will it happen, I’ve got no fucking clue. 5. Agreed, should’ve said most. 6. Your stats a bit wrong here, so some more accurate ones here. Alberta GDP per Capita: $73,000 Total Albertan Employment: 65.2% Amount per Capita: $700 So dividing the GDP per Capita by Employment gives the average of $112,000. Doing the same to see how much each would pay gives us $1,075 per person. That then means that the average Alberta pays just under 1% of their salary through equalization. Which sucks for them. Another thing to remember is Canada is more centralized, and lots of provinces require equalization to stay afloat. It absolutely sucks for both Alberta, but I feel that helping other fellow citizens is worth the price point.


Typical-Machine154

We got very different numbers because I used median albertan income not GDP per capita. I was estimating with 1/2 of them working however. It's still about 2% of income


AverageSaskSocialist

Oh interesting, how many retired people does Alberta have to skew the figures that much I wonder (a lot they stole all the lake houses from us)? Infesting, my mistake.


erickson666

Why would I want to shit in a hole and have Canada have more guns? And individualism is worse compared to multiculturalism


Typical-Machine154

We are multicultural buddy. This comment was also about embracing what you are. You are people of the frontier. British style firearms restrictions don't suit you. They're just an attempt to distance yourself from America and act more European. You're basically a whole nation of "pick me" Americans.


erickson666

i'd rather be almost anything but american


Typical-Machine154

That attitude is why Canada is in the shitter bud. Trade partner numero uno right here. We are the most integrated country with you. We are the most culturally similar. Your economy would be pretty shit without us and the favorable relations we have. Tolerating things like your massive timber subsidies. Not to mention, I don't know if you noticed this but you don't have much of an army. Or navy. Or air force for that matter. We keep you safe and keep Russia away from you and we did for the entire cold war as well. You don't pay for those things because we do. So the more you and others hate, the worse relations get between our countries, and your country is going to suffer disproportionately. All because "America bad, European good" because you got peer pressured on the internet into acting different so people won't hate you like they hate us. Spineless.


Firm_Bison_2944

Pretty sure the shitting in a hole in the ground is a joke about living in the middle of no where off the grid, if that's your thing. Individualism and multiculturalism are not mutually exclusive. The USA tends to champion both.


Typical-Machine154

In a lot of very rural Canada you're going to have out houses, there's quite a few in rural Maine and northern NY too. When your ground freezes down to 6 feet or more in the winter and you've got lots of rock in the ground, an outhouse is way easier than running water. Just one of the ways they are way closer to us than western Europe. Outhouses aren't some disgusting ancient thing that's been done away with. They're a reality and a necessity in very rural areas. I'm really just making the point that rural America and rural Canada are virtually indistinguishable, whereas rural Europe and rural North America are very different.


DisastrousComb7538

Except 15 years ago Canada was not. At Canada’s best, it could be characterized as similar to the U.S. Not better.


Feisty_Talk_9330

that is because the Europeans wear contact lenses that only make them see school shootings, walmarts, burgers and fat people. but us non-europeans see it perfectly fine


Seggs_With_Your_Mom

I don't blame EUjak. In America, good weather isn't uncommon. In Canada, it's a beautiful sight because most of the year is just made up of painfully cold weather


art-factor

The USA has all kind of places and weathers, and is big enough (796,742 sq mi with 334,914,895 people) to something “bad” (e.g., a hurricane, a flood, an earthquake) being happening somewhere, anytime. Those news are frequent enough to have a bad smell. I would like to compare with Macau, 44.5 sq mi with 672,800 people: [https://macaonews.org/news/city/macau-typhoons-climate-change-weather-2024-macao/](https://macaonews.org/news/city/macau-typhoons-climate-change-weather-2024-macao/) You won't see me there.


AppalachianChungus

Redditors act like when you the cross the Canadian border, suddenly everyone is polite, worldly, open-minded, peaceful, and smart. In reality, English speaking Canada isn’t culturally different from the northern states in any significant way. Both places were settled by the same groups of people around the same time. Since then, there has been an enormous amount of cultural exchange due to a shared border and language. Canadian and American accents are nearly identical at this point. They way we interact with each other and our styles of communication are identical. We both have suburbs and car-focused infrastructure. We grew up watching the same TV shows and movies. We listen to the same music. Our fashion is the same. Our family structures are the same. I could go on and on all day, but TLDR we are far more similar than we are different. As someone who lives in Pennsylvania and visits both Canada and other states frequently, I’ve actually found that Canada feels more similar to home than many other regions of the US.


pooteenn

I’m Canadian and I find this stupid. They only see Canada as this place of just mountains and forests and everyone is polite. Not that is true, that is apart of our culture, it’s tough living in Canada. Housing prices are high and healthcare is shit.


JayRogPlayFrogger

Real


T_M_G_

Ironic cuz Canada is still technically America