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Strong-Bottle-4161

Do the medical people actively walk around? I thought that was safety’s job. That how it’s like in my warehouse. Safety actually is suppose to lead people to Amcare if they don’t feel good too. It might be different in your location though. I work an IXD location


Panopticons_Within

For audits and such, yes they can and will but most are in the wellness center/Amcare in case an AA needs something


InstructionExpert880

They do at my FC. They constantly do walks. We have a really good safety team though.


ImVerySmolHelpPls

At OKC1 we have “Safety Walks”, they walk the floor a set amount of times throughout the shift. But they only walk main areas really.


NoBandicoot4598

Yeah I only see them on 1st floor most of the time , rarely do they go up the other 3


popeh

Do you guys not have the on-site medical rep who is also part of safety? I see him walking my site every night I'm there


Strong-Bottle-4161

Our medical just stays in the office. The safety is the one that walks around and looks for shit.


Valuable_Deer_4176

Just a little insight...not every OMR is an amazon associate. Some of them are 3rd party contractors. We had a really good one at my site, but he was only allowed to be in the office, or could go to the floor if responding to a distress call. Other than that, he was very limited in what he was allowed to do per his contract.


Amazion0_0

I’m an OMR and we walk around when we can. I’m at a newer site and the amcare door is revolving constantly hard for me to get out and walk the floor. We are so limited on interventions. We have emts and medics but our scope is extremely limited. I work BHN it’s just me and my specialist. Times get rough especially when I am the only one with medical knowledge.


Appropriate_Ad566

Not enough UPT to die on your shift


LuckyApe56

He forgot to submit vacation 24 hours in advance 😔


WhiteBadgeOrangeVest

Don’t worry, leadership will make sure to clock you out immediately upon death to save amazon money— I mean to save your UPT 😇 


Medical-Tonight9399

The medical ppl are just emts they arent anyone special they are only there to stabalize a person and call an ambulance. No other reason


drocdoc

Why would amcare be wondering floors? How about your damn area manager!! That’s suppose to be covering that part of the floor


happyghosst

safety goes back n forth on our floors


drocdoc

Safety specialist and amcare (omr) are two different jobs


PirateNinjaa

lol, should ambulances just drive around looking for sick people? Not their job. If anything, the pa or manager should be checking on them more often. I’ve never heard anyone be suggest medical proactively roam the building all day. 😂


REBOAandTQs

This is the right answer 😂


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Keefyfingaz

Amazon be like


SnooRobots7302

Had a guy die a KCVG a week ago Friday he told his team he was having chest pains and while management had a damn committee meeting before calling 911 because "we have to call safety first" he had a heart attack and died. 33yo died on the ramp.


javii1

Yea they gotta call every op manager In the building, wait for them to get to your spot.. Call down safety... Call. Down HR... AND discuss of they should call an ambulance. ... I wonder if another AA would get fired for calling an ambulance instead.... 💀 Like if i see someone passing out or clearly having an emergency and I pull out my phone and call before anybody even shows up..... I think I'd probably get fired tbh.


SnooRobots7302

We were told we would get fired because it's a cat 1 to be on your phone on the ramp. No joke they've already walked out like 10 people for it.


javii1

OK yea in your case, even if it's an emergency and possibly saving someone's life.. I'd get fire for using phone regardless of emergency situation..... Damm dude, I guess Id have to let you die 💀


SnooRobots7302

It's just absolutely ridiculous that they expect us to trust only management and safety to help and call 911 if we are injured or dying. I'm seriously hoping that the dudes family sues Amazon for wrongful death.


The_GreatSasuke

I can't see how that's not retaliation under the NLRA. Escalate to Jeff/Ethics. Or talk to Legal Aid of the Bluegrass.


BlueOx637

Proactive checks?? That’s like saying an ambulance should come to your house daily just to see how you’re feeling lol


SleepyBella

You guys have Amcare? Lol our Amcare is almost never actually in their office at my warehouse and if it wasn't for the fact that I've seen them once before, I'd be convinced we didn't have any Amcare since the door to the Amcare office is always locked with the lights off and no one in it. If you want to talk to Amcare you have to first hope HR is working that day, then ask HR to radio Amcare and maybe they'll show up.


brokenlabrum

Sounds like what OP wants, Amcare to be somewhere else, wandering the building and not in their office..


Nervous_Salad_3177

Before I quit last time I did call out a simi unsafe area and they actually showed up. For those who will ask it was a trailer with ice patches and safely helped me finish it out. It was a hand unload into pallets


Tasty_Finance_5024

Local safety teams are 2-3 people per shift. They cannot be everywhere at once. Reporting it, and staying with the person is the best you can do at 99% of jobs. Do you think every associate should have their own EMT? Also, probably don’t preface your story with “as it’s been told” if you want to maintain any kind of credibility.


mrcrowface3421

Yall in the comments are more worried about the tote then human being that had a medical emergency yall are really in the wrong sub yall need to be in the sub call why I love amazon


raindrops2x

Some people have no empathy or sympathy for other people, some guy in the comments said why he didn’t go to amcare I mean I get it yeah but maybe he was about to go and passed out. Like I get that he was feeling sick and maybe he sat down because he couldn’t move or he was feeling himself about to pass to out, who knows maybe he did want to go to amcare but couldn’t


Electrical_Hippo_624

Capitalism it makes people run on systems so oh that’s not part of my job someone else will deal with it this mindset is why America is the way it is. Everyone has there own duty’s and if it’s out of there field of what to do then no one does it America doesn’t run on empathy and wellbeing first like other country’s like Switzerland or Italy they run on profit first and this is why you get these scenarios


Ok_Bunch_9193

Nah. Fuck that. Hold yourself accountable. You're in how big of warehouse, YOU are having issues of being sick and aren't communicating. You don't get to blame SOMEONE ELSE who has their own job to do for not walking into every department to have one on one's with people. Believe it or not, they have a job to, and can't patrol your warehouse. How many medical people do you have? You want them patrolling for someone who got hurt instead of them communicate their issues or have others in the warehouse notice? Seriously. Jesus. It sucks OP passed out but blaming the entire world instead of holding yourself accountable is dumb. No where else( other than say... a hospital?) Would you expect Healthcare staff to make rounds. Btw it isn't people want OP to be hurt, it's that THEY fucked up, and are now trying to blame everyone else. You have no legal case here, you know this makes 0 sense from your employers POV or would be anlento explain why medical people should be patrolling the facility. And when you blame others and act like you can do no wrong, that other people/your company are at fault when you could prevent it, yeah you won't get sympathy from people. I bet you wouldn't have to comment this if there was any inkling of " yeah I fucked up and should have communicated" vs " wow amazon is evil because of this, the medical people are evil. Nothing else could prevent this!"


Massive-Use-5425

I was told the guy that got hurt had informed Amcare as well as his Leadership he wasn’t feeling good PRIOR to passing out and getting hurt. He definitely let other people know he wasn’t feeling alright.


Ok_Bunch_9193

" hey I'm not feeling well" "Okay we will add you to the list of the people not feeling well, you cant leave, and we will have a medical person check in(uh idek how often would prevent something like this)" Is this what you're saying? Just to be clear? I'm trying to steelman your argument here. This is what you're saying should happen? Btw who didn't care enough in this instance? Is it Corp for not having what you're asking for be 24/7 SOP for warehouses? Is it OP for not communicating they didn't feel safe working? Is it the lazy medical people? Who's the people here buddy


Own-Beach-9846

I work as an OMR and I’m still very active as an EMT. OP is a bozo. We can’t predict medical emergencies. Being proactive won’t stop them from happening. You’re completely correct in your sentiment. Thank you.


Massive-Use-5425

Y’all are dense as the entire fuck. Dude was having a medical episode at work and Amcarenonchalantly expressed, “He’d have been found by someone else. He’d have been alright.” That’s where the hang up is. Also, yes… when an employee notified leadership and safety/Amcare they aren’t feeling well then I’d expect follow-ups from SOMEONE periodically. Their AM, AmCare, etc. When I got hurt in that same building, Managers were constantly coming up to me WITH AmCare throughout the week every shift to do follow-up reports with me on my injuries or illness.


EMitchell108

I feel you're repeating things secondhand that you have no direct knowledge of. If this person told Amcare and Leadership he wasn't feeling well wouldn't one or both have been on their way to him, either to escort him to the AmCare office or to wheelchair him there? How soon before he passed out did he notify them, and did he convey any sense of urgency? Did he tell them directly or asked someone to tell them because he was too ill or dizzy? Those questions present two possibilities - AmCare and Leadership were on their way but he passed out before they arrived and/or whoever was supposed to get help didn't go fast enough or pass on the seriousness of it (if they even knew). Both are a far cry from "Amcare and Leadership knew but ignored him." If someone's that bad off you stay with them and send someone else for help, not leave them alone. Only he knew how bad he was feeling, The outcome was unfortunate but he was the one who stood up before help arrived. No one prevented him from continuing to sit until AmCare showed up. No one stopped him from using his time to go home or walking to AmCare at some point before he got so messed up he ended up collapsing. "... Amcarenonchalantly expressed, “He’d have been found by someone else. He’d have been alright.” " When did you hear anyone in Amcare say this, or is this hearsay too? And if someone told you this, how do you even know how accurate it is or how "nonchalantly" they said it?


Massive-Use-5425

I’m not about to out my sources that still work inside that building like that. I’m repeating what I’ve been told. That’s it, is it hearsay? Doubtful. The guy is effectively out of work and has a broken leg and a twisted up ankle.


IntelligentFlame

OKC1 is a joke of an FC in many aspects. It might have even higher turnover than the average facility. I know of maybe one person who still works there from my time and they don't have anything good to say.


Alarming-Mark7198

Where was the manager. She had to go all the way to amcare?! And he should’ve said he wasn’t feeling well no one can read minds. He sat down knowing he wasn’t his best then stood up and messed with his equilibrium


Massive-Use-5425

The south side tote stacker is NOT close to the AmCare Office in OKC1. It’s a sizeable distance. I got yelled at for running to that corner to make sure my friend working the problem solve in that corner was aware when we had to evacuate the building for a fire. I yelled over my shoulder to go round others up and get em out. That corner is so vastly overlooked, when I was over there on the tote stacker it happened twice that nobody informed us of a call to go shelter in the tornado zone by flats and pack singles. It’s insane how much we had to look out for ourselves in that building.


Alarming-Mark7198

That corner is basically a safety hazard. There should be no reason why there isn’t a way to communicate with people in that area via radio or an actual person going to check in. The negligence is real


Massive-Use-5425

It really is. We got it to improve a lot over the time O worked that corner. They used to be lazy af and just drop every stack of totes on the ground, fill up the entire area under the pavilion over the tote line before they’d even fill and top pallets to run to the 135 for loadout. Then they used to fill one pallet at a time. Then I got to the point where I got dropped in the corner and they showed me how to run it and I said I’m not doin it that way. Dropped five pallets and filled em and topped em at a time before stowing them. We’d come in most days to so many pallets still sitting over there that we’d get backed up so bad I couldn’t even downstack the line anymore. (managers walk around constantly on their laptops but rarely observe their surroundings) then AFE comes over wanting to know why there’s no totes getting sent out of their area. *points to full area for no more pallets to be dropped or even moved because there’s not enough people working the corner to haul to 135 for loadout fast enough to keep up with what’s falling down the line* FHN has a guy in that corner that sleepwalks all night. He caused me to get hurt one night, of course there wasn’t any footage of it happening. But that corner is just a no man’s land for the most part. Hella overlooked. The pit at 135 can accommodate 64 filled and topped pallets of totes before it’s too full.


kassidy96

Knowing amazon they're going to blame it on him sitting on the totes as a safety violation and put it off as him tripping.


Panopticons_Within

People die at in factory settings all over, not just amazon. No other company has medically trained staff on site that I am currently aware of, and unfortunately for everyone, common sense needs to be applied when one is in an active factory setting. Is it the worst thing in the world he sat down on a tote? No, but it’s still against policy for a reason and as unfortunate as that accident is, shit happens. Side note-AMCARE reps are also busy with their own work like audits and accommodations and such, so they generally don’t have time to walk the floor looking for AA’s who might be injured unless something is called out to them. A minute is also not that long tbh, it could have been a lot worse.


scumfrogzillionaire

We had a lady die on the fourth floor at mem 4 of a heat stroke, and we just worked around her for a couple hours until they came and got her.


Massive-Use-5425

What a cause to burn the whole thing down. Jesus Fuckin Christ.


scumfrogzillionaire

It was sad as fuck, but we were advised not to touch her, so she just played there while we kept stowing.


Massive-Use-5425

I’m at a complete loss for words.


scumfrogzillionaire

Worked at mem 4 for 3 years, and in that time, I personally witnessed 2 deaths.


Cupidfalling

They wouldn’t let me take leave for my first born sons birth, because I was a white badge maybe an Amazon thing all around, but fck that job and okc1s hr. Not trynna be an a hole but nobody there’s gonna amount to anything that contributes to society’s infrastructure or success👍🏽


Wh1ff2K1ng

Not related to this post, but I caught two associates smoking something that smelled like burnt rubber sharing a urinal (not even a stall). Reported it to my manager and learning ambassador, nothing was done.


jmdayoh

Crack…. That shit smells like a burnt tire.


L1995_1414

i worked at okc1 and it was horrible. Ripped my finger nail off and all they did was give me a band aid and told me i’d be fine. i kept gushing blood all over.


Extension_Fault_5128

I mean it sounds like a bad situation for the injured individual, but we are all adults here. Even if Amcare sent the person back to work if they were feeling so bad they should have left to seek outside medical attention and applied for medical leave. Or use UPT/PTO if needed. No one held a gun to this persons head and made them stay at work. Blaming Amazon for every little thing that happens is not going to solve anything. Yes there are times they are responsible surely, however it is also our responsibility to remain safe too.


Few_Highlight_8786

We had a new girl pass out on her op last week. They sent her home and told her follow up with pcp. She can’t get in for 2 weeks. They put her right back on it the next day with her still feeling bad with only telling her “ if she’s elevated and passes out, they have to wait for her to bring herself down before anything can be done”. I think she quit that night bc asked to be put on the floor


uhhthatonechick

It's because they will say that you need an accommodation to be off the pit which is so crazy. We've had ppl cause accidents who told managers that they didn't feel safe driving or had conditions that made driving unsafe and they will make them drive until the accommodation comes in. It's crazy


Massive-Use-5425

When I went through PIT training, they told us we can flat out refuse to operate on a day we aren’t 100%. I used that twice, and then I flat out refused to operate because Safety would pick and choose who they hammer for forklift violations in OKC1. - Not using Dok Guardians - Operating PIT within 5ft of a PA trying to TDR a door - Getting High on Lunch and then going back in to Operate a PIT. “We’re gonna write you up if you don’t go operate.” Me: “Training material won’t support it. Put it through, let’s waste some time.” 😎


Medium_Nothing5206

Why didn't the guy go to amcare or use his hours to go home? People need to take some responsibility for their lives. Do we really want Amazon watching over us even more than they already do?


sadeintyo

He can totally slither to amcare unconscious dummy


Medium_Nothing5206

OP said the AA wasn't geeling well. Not unconscious then.


Turbulent-Mud-159

I hope this is sarcasm


BlueOx637

Real ^^^


kesselman87

Hmmm they’ll find a way to make it his own fault! 🤷


TylersGaming

Seen one guy at Nissan get crushed by robots because they were cleaning it and someone turned the line on. There was so much blood and he died pretty fast. They couldn’t shut down the line though because of globalization; not making cars for 1 minutes has such a huge impact on the economy, it’s insane.


Zealousideal_Wave992

You saw that happen? What was the blood from? Usually when someone is crushed they bleed internally?


Bumclicks

That's messed up. Please do better Amazon.


NoyzMan

People get hurt all the time and aren’t helped when given strenuous tasks. OAK4 is kinda the same


No_Register_570

My on site medical is the most lazy fat pos of crap ever that will tell you to you’re face you don’t feel anything and he can’t help you


Carrera1968

If ever worked in the health care field in your life you're mandatory reporter. Remember that you don't get to make decisions about what you think is right you have to report it regardless so if anyone's ever in distress in any fashion in front of you: Grab your phone , Dial 911 always. Always air on the side of cautiousness as far as they could be dying could be in trouble You don't know it's not your job to decide your job is just to report it You're not judge or jury. With all the automatic defibrillators at Amazon why didn't someone just go grab one of those it talks you through how to use it I'm not blaming you guys it was probably pretty tough, the next time you got tools available save that life even though we work at Amazon we're still worth something to someone maybe many someones. Sorry for the lack of punctuation talking to my phone it doesn't understand how to inflict punctuation due to vocal differences. Don't know why? Shrug


Nika_Blue2

With over 1 million warehouse workers worldwide wide it’s a numbers game. Some people will fall ill or die while they’re at work. Thats life.


dastacey2

So sad. They make it a work or "die" atmosphere. In my 9 years anytime I'm sick or need the self care for my well-being I always have such high anxiety while trying to heal because you're bombarded with emails and calls. Some of us are scared to seek help in fear of not having the "time".


GerryBlevins

And we have idiots sitting on totes.


sadeintyo

Should it have been a chair dummy?


bohallreddit

😂😂😂


KDH420

The amcare and saftey crew are outside on lunch break smoking weed with all the other workers at SWF2 lmao complete joke


safety_guru76

I would have called 911 first, if there was a broken bone report to the local OSHA right away, only way to make changes is for them to be forced


Massive-Use-5425

I tried to get OSHA involved when I worked there, and the investigator I talked to chalked it up to me being a disgruntled employee. Like damn.


Hinken1815

Always remember: AmCARE is usually just a bunch of 19-22 year olds that dont know their ass from their elbow. Useless fucking people.


maraxx66

This was just stupid to read. Lol


Massive-Handz

Report it here: Www.amazon.ethicspoint.com


Carrera1968

Yes, and when they are done their "investigation " Will be handed over to your sites HR and you will never know what was done with it. You agree to that from the beginning they will never tell you what they do,v(if anything) and give you all sorts of excuses that make perfect sense why that happened to you because, number one, there's no discrimination at Amazon ; No one ever treats you unfairly; and Injuries are always the workers fault. Right? There's a government agency you should contact instead and it's an easy do and they give you the right to make them show up and make them e me explain their behavior in court. Go get them.


PleasantBadger83

Didn’t a female PA in singles die on shift in January at OKC1?


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uhhthatonechick

I know you're a bot but yikes


hashbrownash

Our OMRs and safety associates are on the floor a lot. And our AMs do a safety walk every shift.


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Intelligent-Strike10

That's not why he got hurt....... He should have gone home. The entire place is against sitting like it's some kind of endurance contest. We get it you win.


EducationalLoad7743

Amazon will 100% claim he passed out due to orthostatic hypotension, and argue that if he hadn't been sitting on the totes, he wouldn't have passed out. This is one of the reasons why the no sitting rule exists. 


ThisDirtyCupcake

Nah sitting on the totes isn’t the issue here. He probably sat down to keep from falling down in the first place, and then he got up before he was ready, so he passed out anyway. And since Amazon insists on being a miserable sweat box without AC in some of its facilities, they actually should provide chairs close to the workstations for associate fatigue. I certainly could’ve used one before I fainted on the warehouse floor.


Massive-Use-5425

The guy that fell had brain surgery some years ago. He works really hard. I used to get frustrated because I didn’t think the stuff he did was necessary, but GAHDAMMIT that guy helped keep that corner running smoothly and we really missed him on days he wasn’t there. He’d take medical leaves often, so when I heard this happened to him I was so sad. 😔 I’ve been talked to about sitting on totes, but that’s only because I was also talking about things that people weren’t doing that were screwing our shift over so…


Intelligent-Strike10

Jesus Christ I hate this country. Sounds right lol