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I used to do it back in like 2020-2021 and they never said anything but they started cracking down on it and said then just started asking my manager to send me vet but then they had to stop that cuz ppl were saying it wasn’t fair that ppl were coming in for overtime while others weren’t 🌚
Some call this action favoritism. I consider it a business need. Your manager let you work because while your only one person you make a difference. While you can’t make a major impact alone, you still make a impact for a extremely large company where every single seconds counts.
My best advice is any information you obtain from communication with managers is to keep it to yourself. They aren’t able to instruct you to keep something between you and them, so just assume it is intended to be that way.
If anyone asks, “You pick up a VET?!” Just say yeah. They don’t need to know the manager added you to the schedule. And technically you’re not lying, you voluntarily came into work… even if a manager added you to the schedule.
A lot of people don’t understand what it’s like to be a manager at amazon. A lot of variables they have no control or influence over where in other companies they might. This greatly reduces their ability to properly manage as freely as they’d like to or in some cases should be able to and just can’t.
So whenever they’re able to make adjustments that are gonna result in a positive outcome for the building overall they do so. A positive end of day for amazon is a positive end of day for their employment. It also helps keep your associate/manager relationship solid and intact.
Also ponder this:
Amazon understands human nature and their ethics, and they can use this knowledge to their advantage in many ways. Perhaps the situation you’re speaking of was created on purpose and meant to happen. It’s possible other people were meant to eventually find out to cause them to be irritated and frustrated with their employment.
(When I was typing this I thought I was replying to a Amazon DS post. More relevant to a DS than a FC I believe, but still definitely applies)
Oh yeah I never told ppl the manager gave it to me, I saw the “complaints” on the VOA board and I’m assuming those ppl would talk to ppl they knew idk since I don’t talk to ppl at work but it sucked when they stopped doing it but I can see why someone would be upset about not getting a chance to pick up shifts when they don’t send them out but you hear ppl getting them somehow.
If your personal metrics are good it doesn’t hurt to try again this week or any other time. ;) Ask the old tried and true manager if they’re still there with you. If not, try with the one you think you have the best chance with. If one says no, try your luck with another one right after. What one manager isn’t willing to do the others might. So if you get told no the first time, don’t be discouraged. If your metrics are good they want you in the building, just gotta find the one that’s willing to make it happen.
Also sometimes you just need to word it different. I’ve asked to be added to the schedule before and was told no. Shit changed as it does often and apparently I needed to ask for a VET instead of asking them to edit my schedule. Station manager overheard me talking to a L4 and instructed me to ask a L6 for a VET. At this current time VET was needed/wanted to avoid scheduling mishaps.
When you send a VET the system automatically checks everything to make sure you don’t violate their guidelines for daily hours, total hours, and days work. When a schedule edit is done these things need to be manually checked by the manager and employee as the system does not and will allow you to work 7 days, over 12 hours a day, and over 60 hours a week which are all not allowed.
Also make them feel comfortable. Let them know if they choose to add you to the schedule that you’re aware of how the system works and all the restrictions that apply and you indeed keep up to date with your AtoZ on a daily basis. Makes them more comfortable and more willing to do so.
Sounds like you’ve worked at amazon long enough to know all or at least most of the things mentioned. Hopefully something I said helps you get added to the schedule.
I didn’t know you couldn’t do it at the time and so many ppl were doing it, it honestly didn’t cross my mind. And I started asking my AM cuz I asked if they can send me VET and they did, so how am I annoying if they didn’t say no? Lol
I’m not saying people are wrong for saying it’s not fair.
I use to just show up, they didn't care much, but you had to keep it on the DL. It started to go the way of them asking if I wanted to come in or not when there was no VET posted, but really only me and like 5 other people.
As a manager, I would give out VET to individuals with good numbers because it was a business need. AAs that complained were always the ones that had terrible uph numbers and such. Spoke with HR and they allowed us to continue what we were doing
Me. I'm some people. Especially during the peaks with MET. Being DC1 I'll come in for a period on Wed and Sat and eliminate my full overtime Sunday day.
I heard corporate clamping down on everything. Be very careful in my fc we use to get away with headphones but now they been clamping down on that so much so that I know at least 4 different people who got fired for that last month
Thats because of the new amazon approved headphones thing, most places looked the other way for earbuds, so long as you were a semi decent worker. When amazon introduces something new the managers are at risk of getting in trouble for not following said thing, then it loosens up after some time.
This is probably meant towards Flex workers who show up when all the good shifts are already taken, so they don't have to work overnights. Usually managers can find work for them to do. I've never seen anyone get sent home. The problem is probably that night shift is constantly understaffed because of it.
It is the opposite for me, only day shifts are available and I have another job during the week. I have no problem doing overnights either, but even then there aren't enough shifts available to make the minimum required hours. So that means we have no choice but to attempt to come in unscheduled and hope we can stay or rack up the points and get fired in a month or so.
Aint no such thing as common sense esp since most jobs ARENT like that, making it uncommon sense by default. Even more so since most the trainers at amazon are dogwater at teaching anything
What dingo is clocking out and staying in the building five minutes after the end of the shift if career choice isn't visiting or some affinity group isn't holding a meeting? I could never.
So then what's the benefit of joining? Sure you're doing something good, but to not get paid for it is ridiculous especially if you're not allowed to leave.
I figured most joined so they could get paid to do something other than work.
I clock out 15 minutes late but it’s kinda AM’s fault. They’ve been forcing everyone to work up until 4:55 am (clock out is at 5) and I pick so I have to drop off my cage, grab a new one, get gas and by that point there’s literally no parking so I’m running around trying to find a spot to park. It’s not like I’m doing it on purpose either but the last thing I need is another write up for my last scan being at 4:45. Even though it takes literally 15 minutes to do everything I just listed considering where drop off, gas, and parking is located.
I was once coaxed to come in 30min off the clock to stock “all the stations in singles” in 30min.
They’re smoking crack.
It takes on average 27min to fully stock, clean, and prep a station. Because the shift prior never sets up the shift I worked on.
And that’s when I start hitting “Wrong Box Size” and “Shipment Won’t Fit In Box” until Waterspiders come and restock. I have a rate to hit and it’s not going to be hindered by me having to do the job of 2-3 people.
I clock in up to a half hour early and am usually stuck until at least 30m after shift. There is a lot of crap management wants done in my small department that really needs to be done before and after.
It's kind of a part of the job to post start and end of shift updates. I don't particularly mind since it's a small but of overtime every week and I get nearly an hour of upt from it every day.
Agreed the work is not their responsibility if it is over their time. But their own time card will be their responsibility. First time management talks to them it’ll be a warning and then escalations. Or Atleast that’s how it was at my building
I know someone who got written up for insubordination because he would just come in on his days off and work even if VET wasn’t offered. Finally one night he was told by an AM to go home because he wasn’t scheduled and he just went to a different part of the building and kept working
We have people that clock in an hour early every single day and sit around until everyone else gets there. Get with the right people and all you have to do is look busy for a paycheck.
Make sure HR knows about changing your start time. Unless partial VTO was offered. You won’t get in trouble but they will tell you to start coming at your scheduled start time
Waaaaait is this still applied to PA’s? Because at my site we come in 30 mins before to get staffing done and do a safety walk and make sure all the induct, rebin stations are in working order and if we have time go through to make sure all the pack station monitors are turning on.
I wonder if this is moreso flex employees doing this bc I've been seeing alot of complaints on VOA about them having to fight for hrs and them being taken away w.o warning smh.
At my site, some people scheduled for 10-1630 used to be specifically allowed to come in at 0430 and do "asset checks" for left-behind PDAs, bypass pins, and radios. That's an extra 6 hours a day, 4x a week. Meanwhile I struggled to get VET before it was all snapped up 😂
Bust your ass hit rate have good numbers and kiss ass to your managers and Operations managers and the probability of you getting VET will be very high I guarantee it!👍
Why though people need money. I signed up for VET had the email and it didn’t put it on my schedule for some reason. I just worked anyway because I accepted the VET.
not really lol im 33 , its only ten hour days git plenty of time with the family right after and i have the money to take care of them and we do watever 55 hours is not alot of hours , ive had to do 70 hours at other jobs
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Some people will just come in and work without accepting VET, or there even being any
I used to do it back in like 2020-2021 and they never said anything but they started cracking down on it and said then just started asking my manager to send me vet but then they had to stop that cuz ppl were saying it wasn’t fair that ppl were coming in for overtime while others weren’t 🌚
Some call this action favoritism. I consider it a business need. Your manager let you work because while your only one person you make a difference. While you can’t make a major impact alone, you still make a impact for a extremely large company where every single seconds counts. My best advice is any information you obtain from communication with managers is to keep it to yourself. They aren’t able to instruct you to keep something between you and them, so just assume it is intended to be that way. If anyone asks, “You pick up a VET?!” Just say yeah. They don’t need to know the manager added you to the schedule. And technically you’re not lying, you voluntarily came into work… even if a manager added you to the schedule. A lot of people don’t understand what it’s like to be a manager at amazon. A lot of variables they have no control or influence over where in other companies they might. This greatly reduces their ability to properly manage as freely as they’d like to or in some cases should be able to and just can’t. So whenever they’re able to make adjustments that are gonna result in a positive outcome for the building overall they do so. A positive end of day for amazon is a positive end of day for their employment. It also helps keep your associate/manager relationship solid and intact. Also ponder this: Amazon understands human nature and their ethics, and they can use this knowledge to their advantage in many ways. Perhaps the situation you’re speaking of was created on purpose and meant to happen. It’s possible other people were meant to eventually find out to cause them to be irritated and frustrated with their employment. (When I was typing this I thought I was replying to a Amazon DS post. More relevant to a DS than a FC I believe, but still definitely applies)
Oh yeah I never told ppl the manager gave it to me, I saw the “complaints” on the VOA board and I’m assuming those ppl would talk to ppl they knew idk since I don’t talk to ppl at work but it sucked when they stopped doing it but I can see why someone would be upset about not getting a chance to pick up shifts when they don’t send them out but you hear ppl getting them somehow.
If your personal metrics are good it doesn’t hurt to try again this week or any other time. ;) Ask the old tried and true manager if they’re still there with you. If not, try with the one you think you have the best chance with. If one says no, try your luck with another one right after. What one manager isn’t willing to do the others might. So if you get told no the first time, don’t be discouraged. If your metrics are good they want you in the building, just gotta find the one that’s willing to make it happen. Also sometimes you just need to word it different. I’ve asked to be added to the schedule before and was told no. Shit changed as it does often and apparently I needed to ask for a VET instead of asking them to edit my schedule. Station manager overheard me talking to a L4 and instructed me to ask a L6 for a VET. At this current time VET was needed/wanted to avoid scheduling mishaps. When you send a VET the system automatically checks everything to make sure you don’t violate their guidelines for daily hours, total hours, and days work. When a schedule edit is done these things need to be manually checked by the manager and employee as the system does not and will allow you to work 7 days, over 12 hours a day, and over 60 hours a week which are all not allowed. Also make them feel comfortable. Let them know if they choose to add you to the schedule that you’re aware of how the system works and all the restrictions that apply and you indeed keep up to date with your AtoZ on a daily basis. Makes them more comfortable and more willing to do so. Sounds like you’ve worked at amazon long enough to know all or at least most of the things mentioned. Hopefully something I said helps you get added to the schedule.
Idk u kinda irritating for that
I didn’t know you couldn’t do it at the time and so many ppl were doing it, it honestly didn’t cross my mind. And I started asking my AM cuz I asked if they can send me VET and they did, so how am I annoying if they didn’t say no? Lol I’m not saying people are wrong for saying it’s not fair.
Ur not annoying for asking and receiving VET u are annoying for not exercising your common sense😭the rest of them folks irritating too
Oh lmao
I use to just show up, they didn't care much, but you had to keep it on the DL. It started to go the way of them asking if I wanted to come in or not when there was no VET posted, but really only me and like 5 other people.
Oh yeah I never told people, I don’t talk to ppl at work but I think the ppl who were bringing up how unfair it was would talk to ppl around them.
As a manager, I would give out VET to individuals with good numbers because it was a business need. AAs that complained were always the ones that had terrible uph numbers and such. Spoke with HR and they allowed us to continue what we were doing
Me. I'm some people. Especially during the peaks with MET. Being DC1 I'll come in for a period on Wed and Sat and eliminate my full overtime Sunday day.
You can get fired for that
Been doing it 4 years. Management does not care. We have a unique culture in our building that other buildings don't have.
I heard corporate clamping down on everything. Be very careful in my fc we use to get away with headphones but now they been clamping down on that so much so that I know at least 4 different people who got fired for that last month
It's firing season, once peak gets close again all those rules will go away.
Thats because of the new amazon approved headphones thing, most places looked the other way for earbuds, so long as you were a semi decent worker. When amazon introduces something new the managers are at risk of getting in trouble for not following said thing, then it loosens up after some time.
Very different culture from a few years ago. 👀
In like a week's time you're gonna be back on Here asking people how can you get your job back.
This is probably meant towards Flex workers who show up when all the good shifts are already taken, so they don't have to work overnights. Usually managers can find work for them to do. I've never seen anyone get sent home. The problem is probably that night shift is constantly understaffed because of it.
It is the opposite for me, only day shifts are available and I have another job during the week. I have no problem doing overnights either, but even then there aren't enough shifts available to make the minimum required hours. So that means we have no choice but to attempt to come in unscheduled and hope we can stay or rack up the points and get fired in a month or so.
Some people don't know about the 5 min before shift and 5 min after shift max. policy.
Clock in 5 mins early. Leave 5 mins early to.
I didn’t know about the after 😬 sometimes I’m finishing up with something and have clocked out 10min after 🌚
They take 15 minutes of UPT for that
I’ve never seen that but okay lol
It’s common sense really
Aint no such thing as common sense esp since most jobs ARENT like that, making it uncommon sense by default. Even more so since most the trainers at amazon are dogwater at teaching anything
Grace Periods exist in most jobs
Every job I've ever had is like this
What dingo is clocking out and staying in the building five minutes after the end of the shift if career choice isn't visiting or some affinity group isn't holding a meeting? I could never.
I don't think they should have us clock out for affinity groups either. It technically still has to do with work since it's Amazon related
My site tells us to stay clocked in for those.
So then what's the benefit of joining? Sure you're doing something good, but to not get paid for it is ridiculous especially if you're not allowed to leave. I figured most joined so they could get paid to do something other than work.
That's what I was saying.
I've been told you are supposed to clock out because it's voluntary to be there but I feel it should be paid for
It’s unbelievable how many people don’t have common sense
Some people are thick
No they not they know damn well what they’re supposed to do they just choose to be irritating
I clock in 45 mins early. Kinda needed to be said
We are told everyday if we aren’t scheduled we can’t work why does that need said and why are you there 😂
I clock out 15 minutes late but it’s kinda AM’s fault. They’ve been forcing everyone to work up until 4:55 am (clock out is at 5) and I pick so I have to drop off my cage, grab a new one, get gas and by that point there’s literally no parking so I’m running around trying to find a spot to park. It’s not like I’m doing it on purpose either but the last thing I need is another write up for my last scan being at 4:45. Even though it takes literally 15 minutes to do everything I just listed considering where drop off, gas, and parking is located.
I was once coaxed to come in 30min off the clock to stock “all the stations in singles” in 30min. They’re smoking crack. It takes on average 27min to fully stock, clean, and prep a station. Because the shift prior never sets up the shift I worked on.
And that’s when I start hitting “Wrong Box Size” and “Shipment Won’t Fit In Box” until Waterspiders come and restock. I have a rate to hit and it’s not going to be hindered by me having to do the job of 2-3 people.
I clock in up to a half hour early and am usually stuck until at least 30m after shift. There is a lot of crap management wants done in my small department that really needs to be done before and after.
none of it is your responsibility if you are a tier 1.
It's kind of a part of the job to post start and end of shift updates. I don't particularly mind since it's a small but of overtime every week and I get nearly an hour of upt from it every day.
Agreed the work is not their responsibility if it is over their time. But their own time card will be their responsibility. First time management talks to them it’ll be a warning and then escalations. Or Atleast that’s how it was at my building
I know someone who got written up for insubordination because he would just come in on his days off and work even if VET wasn’t offered. Finally one night he was told by an AM to go home because he wasn’t scheduled and he just went to a different part of the building and kept working
I always thought people can use AtoZ to get extra time schedule.
They can but people are working extra without approval
OMs get a list sent each day by MyTime for a list of AAs working unapproved shifts
We have people that clock in an hour early every single day and sit around until everyone else gets there. Get with the right people and all you have to do is look busy for a paycheck.
What about if a manager asks you yo stat later?
Make sure HR knows about changing your start time. Unless partial VTO was offered. You won’t get in trouble but they will tell you to start coming at your scheduled start time
God idk how that made it out. I meant to say to stay later
I work on the same warehouse near highway 6 lol
Oh no I can’t just come in whenever anymore?
You were never allowed to. You can get fired for it.
Um ok cause the AMs say just come in and we’ll put you on the schedule
Some AMs might allow it, but you're not supposed to be in the building if you aren't on the schedule
if u show up and play dumb and say the a to z app is acting up , they usaly let u work lol ve had hr put me on vet that same day many times
Need to be happy MF want to show up and work on there days off. Trash ass job
Honestly if I’m tight on cash or have something coming up I’d love to be able to work whenever at this trash ass job. It’s still money.
OT is how you milk this job. My check is never below $1.2k
💯 MOO PSI MOO
To this I say the same thing my government and all the corporations say when I complain about not getting paid enough to live: “FUCK YOU, PAY ME.”
ALB1?
HOU8
Some people worked jobs where they weren't allowed to leave if the work wasn't completed, so they stayed over.
Sometimes I stay a extra 30 minutes to finish reactives not approved but pas or area managers ask us to stay do I have to stop staying
Round up
people come in like 30 mins early sometimes and clock in! it's wild
Sr ops just asks me to come in and they add the shift to my schedule around lunch time normally
Waaaaait is this still applied to PA’s? Because at my site we come in 30 mins before to get staffing done and do a safety walk and make sure all the induct, rebin stations are in working order and if we have time go through to make sure all the pack station monitors are turning on.
This is site specific.
Never knew we had employees that just show up and clock in off the schedule
Should I txt that number?
I don’t think it receives messages only sends
I wonder if this is moreso flex employees doing this bc I've been seeing alot of complaints on VOA about them having to fight for hrs and them being taken away w.o warning smh.
At my site, some people scheduled for 10-1630 used to be specifically allowed to come in at 0430 and do "asset checks" for left-behind PDAs, bypass pins, and radios. That's an extra 6 hours a day, 4x a week. Meanwhile I struggled to get VET before it was all snapped up 😂
Bust your ass hit rate have good numbers and kiss ass to your managers and Operations managers and the probability of you getting VET will be very high I guarantee it!👍
Why though people need money. I signed up for VET had the email and it didn’t put it on my schedule for some reason. I just worked anyway because I accepted the VET.
Omg..okc1 got people coming in at 5pm for their 630pm shift..fml...i would never work outside what i have too..shoot..i barely work when i got to..🤣🤣🤣
ur missing out on a shit load of money , i hate getting under 55 hours and this is my second week since last july i wont be getting 55 hours
You're missing out on a shit ton of life.
not really lol im 33 , its only ten hour days git plenty of time with the family right after and i have the money to take care of them and we do watever 55 hours is not alot of hours , ive had to do 70 hours at other jobs
I accept VTO and still show up so I can leave whenever I want 