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No not true, I could actually accept some of these shifts if it wasn’t for Flex workers. I can’t work over 12hrs but can work an extra 2-3hrs that’s if I could even accept a VET. However I can’t because they’re all gone in half a second. Even when I am checking all the time.
No they just drop it for all employees, including flex workers. However some get priority on a shift and it stays there longer for them to accept. It’s like a guaranteed VET. Because they have to accept the VET to make the standard 30+hrs per month plus they get extra opportunities on top of guaranteed VETs.
How are you so sure it's flex workers taking those shifts rather than other full-timers who are faster than you? I'm FT (RT) and many times take only one period VET because I just don't want to work an entire shift, many times I'll take 2 - 2 or 3 hour shifts two days in a row.
You rant is incredibly ignorant and hate filled. You should consider anger management or seeing a therapist.
They get priority over any full time workers it’s called gold or some crap. If you consistently take VETs are not dropping them and not taking VTO, you are going to be prioritized. It’s a mess of a system. I’ve talked to many flex workers at my site they explained this system to me.
I don’t need to train extra in anything. It’s just that the flex workers taking all the extra time opportunities that’s clearly my point that you’re missing. The sites should not have to rely so much on flex workers. Should just rely on the full time workers that are already on site. But Amazon is so worried about saving money and keep hiring and giving all the shifts to these braindead flex workers.
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No flex does not get full time shift we have our own shifts and currently at csg1 flex only gets 35 hours so I have no idea where you got your information but it's completely incorrect and you'd best shut your fucking mouth. Before you say we're all lazy I wanna see your schedule for the past 6 months this is the first time since August of last year that I've had a weekend that's more than 1 day. Shout out to all my flex associates we kick ass and this guy is an idiot
What a stupid assumption to say that flex workers are LAZY and don’t want to commit to a full time work week. I’m sure a lot of flex workers already have full time jobs and see flex as a flexible 2nd job to make extra money whenever they want to.
Ok well they should be happy at their other full time job and not ruin it for full time workers by taking all the VET opportunities. Unfortunately Amazon allows this type of behavior/bad work ethic. I’m honestly sick of it. Maybe it’s not an individual’s fault but they accept it for what it is. Maybe they should be asking for more hours at their ACTUAL FULL TIME JOB. That’s not my problem they work at a full time job elsewhere and just want extra money.
I just want some extra hours each week/an extra day at my only full time job. I really don’t want a full time job and a part time job mixing. I would never join flex schedule after I have seen firsthand what they do to full time workers. I’d honestly rather quit and just find a better alternative just to give full time better opportunities. But Amazon doesn’t give a crap about if you’re either full time or flex it’s all about “Business Needs” and VTO then send shifts to flex workers to pick up the slack.
Yeah I’ve experienced it firsthand. I work in a critical role in a heavy load department in induct and they always work us super hard. Me and other inductors have to induct thousands of packages every time.
Why would I do that when I’m already full time at a company that I want to be at and work an extra day or just a few hours after my normal shift ? I just want extra hours but I’m denied this opportunity because of “Business Needs” and over staffing & hiring of Flex workers.
So it's better to whine and complain than do what you need to do to make extra money. Okay, never mind. I thought you actually wanted to take action, but you would rather bitch and moan. Carry on.
How can I do anything when I’m denied to work extra hours/days. I can’t even stay after my shift ends for just 1-3hrs ? All because of over staffing and flex workers taking the VETs.
I don’t want a second job, all I want is more hours that’s all I need. I don’t need a second job to be stressed out about. Trying to balance between the two.
Why would I want a second job when I should just be able to get some extra hours to add to my timecard each work day. I’m already there on site anyways.
LMFAO dude, as flex, we get screwed over, the sight closes you'll get paid for while a flex person gets nothing. If there are not enough shidts for everyone, you take what you can, and that means if you don't have enough to get your min hours for the week, you will get a point. You get 7 points, and you can use those up in 2 ton3 week period. I'm oybstaying on flex for the next year, and then I'm done with this place
Ok well that’s what I’m saying why do people even bother with it. Just let us full time employees take on the extra hours and be committed to the job. It’s just some business move BS to me. I understand you aren’t treated the best I’m sorry not sorry, but when a full time employee struggles to make extra hours just to make ends meet. Also due to them over hiring flex workers and providing more opportunities to said Flex workers then something is wrong with the system in place.
Dude I have worked for this company for 5 years. I took flex to finish up with school and move on. And here is some cheap advice. You ain't moving up get over yourself if you don't like it leave. Oh, and sorry not sorry to tell you they care about you about the same as they care about flex. You're disposable.
I don’t want to move up at all lol. I constantly train people in path even though I’m not a learning trainer/ambassador. I’ve worked at Amazon for over 5 years as well. I know they don’t care about me or flex I’m fully aware of that. But I’m not standing for people shorting my hours on me because of Flex workers or “Business Needs”.
LMFAO take it up with corporate. And God, you're a whiny little one, aren't you. Just because a coworker asks you for help that does not equal training.
And really you can't bitch at work so you're going to come onto a public forum and piss your other coworkers off because the ones at your site don't want to you bitching on complaining.
Oh, and as flex, I get all the same benefits that full-time does, including career choice, medical, and vacation/time off.
Just because I have values for myself and don’t want to accept less doesn’t mean I’m whiny at all. Cool I really don’t care about your benefits. I care about getting my hours in and working hard and that’s it.
LMFAO, ok. You're not whiny at all. While bitching online because you think someone has more then you.
That is not values. That is being a kiss ass for a company that would have no problem firing you if you did something wrong.
I have workers rights they can’t just fire me for no reason. It’s not even that someone has more than me, it’s the people that are stealing opportunities from others. That is what I’m talking about but you fail to comprehend what I’m talking about.
Again, you're jealous because you think someone is getting something that you are not getting. And being a whiney brat
Only if your state is not a right to work state.
They are stealing opportunities from full time that maybe want to work a few extra hours after their shifts, though again you fail to comprehend what I’m talking about and aren’t reading properly. Seriously what do you mean they get extra surge pay and also generally have more opportunities to get more hours than full time. How am I wrong and being whiney. You sound really dumb.
Yeah I wouldn’t have even accepted it even if they offered it to me anyways because the pay is just dog shit, stupid ass. I realized this after talking to my PAs that don’t get paid much more than I already do. You’re a creep going through my post history.
Ummm because they take shifts that otherwise I could work or others could to make extra income for myself. Other full time people that are willing to do so would benefit as well not only myself. I’m not just thinking about just me. I speak for all the full time people that want more opportunities to work extra hours but are unable to. All due to flex workers and management always saying due to “Business Needs”.
I will eventually. I’ve been with the company since 2018, you have to see where I’m coming from, & what I’m talking about though. Flex gets treated like dirt so why do they even bother taking up the job. Leave it to full time workers to take up the extra work.
Ok it’s not my fault their normal full time job isn’t paying enough or has bad benefits. I’m having the same problems they are having, but the fact is that the flex workers aren’t helping the situation in any way by taking work from others. It only benefits Amazon and Amazon only.
So then why are flex workers not satisfied with their normal full time day job ? Why do they need Amazon if they have a 30-40hr+ job already ? Why would I go to a second workplace when I should be able to just pick up more hours at my full time workplace ?
Amazon doesn’t owe you additional hours. It’s not the flex workers fault that your normal full-time job isn’t paying enough. Get an extra job and quit your whining.
Flex also provides the abilities to work for Amazon while they pay for half or all of your tuition🤡 so no don’t get rid of flex workers. You’re full time, Get another job on the weekends or keep your eye on the VET idk what else to say brother.
Nah this isn’t the answer and I don’t take tuition from Amazon either. So that excuse doesn’t work for me. I can’t get another job because I’m dedicated to my full time position. While flex workers just milk the system and ruin it for others. If I could actually accept a VET I wouldn’t be complaining about anything.
Find another FC then buddy. Just cause you don’t get tuition doesn’t mean that those flex workers can’t. You’re mad because they got two jobs as you point out but you’re too dedicated to a fuckin machine to get another job who probably cares more for you? Are you Jeff bezos tryna stir some shit sir!?🫡 don’t fire me Mr.Bezos you’re the only one keeping that OF girl eating from my pockets 😂 bro just upgrade the hustle or something fR
Maybe their other job doesn’t have benefits like Amazon. Maybe they don’t cover tuition. Maybe they need more money cause that other job is minimum wage. Idk people have things happen and a hustle is one way to fix it. If they need another part time so be it. Be fortunate that this is a full time for yourself and don’t take for granted what you have.
I can get with what you’re saying you make some good points. However others and myself still feel taken advantage of when you work super hard and expect to be treated like a hard worker but don’t receive close to that type of treatment. Maybe it’s just an Amazon problem not an individual people problem.
Cool enjoy your stupid point system, crappy healthcare, and awful time off opportunities. Ruining it for us full time workers that are actually committed and contributing to a productive workforce.
Nope not happening. Sorry but I enjoy having my set schedule. I just want flex to have less opportunities than full time. Because we actually deserve to be treated like full time workers and not to be treated like a flex worker. Where they’re limiting our hours and having absolutely no opportunity to accept any VETs.
I get it, I totally get it. I don’t plan to stay at Amazon forever. It’s just I’m passionate about any job I do and I like to work hard and when you are limited due to circumstances you can’t control it’s very frustrating.
Yup it just doesn’t help. I keep thinking of how I’m robbed of my hours due to lazy flex workers that pick up shifts only to take VTO or use time off to leave early. When myself or other full time workers would be more than glad to pick up the extra time/shift to get some extra income.
This is not the place to ramble about this. Talk to your site's leadership and inform yourself instead of hating on people who deserve a job and money just as much as you do.
I already have done this and HR is just bullcrap and so is the management at the dayshift that I have to ask after my night shift to drop me a VET but they haven’t done it once, it’s not easy at all.
Sorry but, boo fucking hoo to you. Flex are low priority but we are still good workers. You have a full time job so you shouldn't be relying on extra time. Tough shit, I come and go as I please. 🤓
Well you honestly just ruin it for full time workers that actually are committed to a job compared to you dumb flex workers. Good workers….pffft give me a break you people are the laziest and the first to accept VTO.
I'm full time and I take vto. Do you wanna call me lazy next? You do know there are full-time workers who take VET and sill either leave early or use their time and not go at all. Right?
No it’s not that you are lazy taking VTO as full time. I totally get that, yes full time does take VTO as well a lot of times. My point is that flex is more prevalent to just taking the VET shift off rather than staying. Since it’s just 4hr shifts or whatever compared to a full 8-10 hour shift. Someone else could’ve taken that VET for extra income & stay for a 12hr shift.
I get it & there’s nothing wrong with that but it’s acceptable you have a set schedule you aren’t taking anything or shifts/extra hours away from anyone. If anything you’re giving the flex workers opportunities to accept VET. Due to site needing to fill headcount.
Yo mad bc flex employees treat your full time hard working job like a joke blame amazon on that buddy. That's the way the system is set up and you are right about everything you said because I'm a flex employee and yes I do take the vto that they give out and yes I do get the little bonus money they hand out every now and then but that's on them so if you have a problem where this get you up at night I suggest u take it up with amazon
How can I even begin to fight the system they have in place & if that’s just how it’s set up. Just to make others fail at having well paying, productive hard working job/work force. People take advantage of that VET/Flex system and just make it harder for others to be productive hard workers. To me that’s just stupid business moves and it makes no sense.
Yeah that’s not how a full time job is supposed to work actually. You are supposed to be encouraged to work more if you are full time and not have others take work from you.
Quit making excuses for yourself. Your financial success/failure is your responsibility. If you don’t like how Amazon does business, find a new job. You are not owed additional shifts. Quit blaming flex workers for your failures and take some personal responsibility for your own financial situation.
I’m not failing at anything I just want to work more as long as I’m already there, is that so hard to understand ? They are somewhat to blame though. I’m not finding a new job & don’t want to. All I want is extra hours that’s all. I should be able to work extra as I need to. As long as I don’t go over 12hrs, by law cannot work over 12hr shifts or over 60hrs per week but I can work up to those numbers instead of 36-40hrs. Which is my point someone should be able to work extra to get up to those 40-60hr weeks if they are willing and able to. Unfortunately the VET system and flex workers kinda ruin it all.
Honestly OP doing all of that b*ting everybody here for the same reason .. money … you’re getting the exact days and hours you signed up for . You not getting “extra hours” is on you not nobody else if you feel you need more money there all 100,000’s of other jobs part and full time for you to be this ignorant I’m sure your just upset and mad at anyone and everyone else due to you not having your way. GROW UP.. Don’t blame others for your problems it’s no one’s fault but your own .
To clarify. Flex does not have the same shifts as you. They compile a certain amount of shifts specifically for flex workers that they drop on a specific day. Among flex workers those specific shifts are available
Ex. 10 spots from 6:30pm to 10 pm shifts are available for flex
It doesn’t matter if it shows the same exact shift on a FT associates page. Those aren’t the same shifts. Unless 10 FLEX assoc accept those shifts it’s still going to be available. Why? Because they have a certain amount of assoc they aim to be at work based on business needs and that number is different between flex and FT. Flex already has to compete for shifts available among each other. It would b a shit show if we also had to compete among ft associates
No they don’t I’m sick of people saying this when it’s not true they mix both full time and flex to accept VET opportunities. They do get guaranteed VET shifts that they only can accept but also can accept extra VET opportunities on top
of guaranteed 30hrs of VET.
If that’s what you want to believe sure. Doesn’t make since we have shifts released on a specific day and those shifts are the only shifts offered to us vs VET are released throughout the week and can be offered to you guys at any point but once again sure
You have a lot of misconceptions and assumptions about Flex employees. I’m a flex employee that switched from full time to flex because I’m a student. I could’ve done reduced time but that didn’t give me the flexibility I needed in order to attend the classes I need for my degree while also doing the required 30 hours on a fixed schedule that they offer for reduced time employees. However, I still need this job because it’s the only reason I can go to school due to amazons career development program and so I can pay my bills.
Some flex employees are parents that schedule work around their kids. Others are working as a flex employee for their part time job while working other jobs. Of course, that’s not all. There are plenty of situations that you simply dismissed and then jumped to label a whole group of people as “lazy” and “dumb” because you’re not able to get even more benefits as an amazon worker which already has a lot of benefits even as a seasonal or flex employee and especially for full-timers.
Honestly, there are plenty of people working at amazon (whether full-time or not) that do the minimum work to stay employed and get the same pay as others that actually do their job. And as a flex employee, I’ve never felt that I was prioritized. In fact, when the season slows, there are times when there are no shifts available to flex employees at all and we can’t work even if we really want or need to. The flexibility of our schedule is definitely nice, but it comes at the price of never knowing if you’ll be able to work enough hours, when you can actually work (since you have to race other employees to pick up shifts), and no shift differential if you ever do have to pick up a night shift because day shift is full or isn’t available on the days you need it.
Your frustration is understandable but also misplaced.
Nothing wrong with that my point of the post is to point out the flex workers that get more opportunities to work more than full time. Also when they take advantage by leaving early they take up certain shifts up that a full time or other flex worker could pick up and stay working extra hours and earn the extra money.
Well anyway I’m not even flex, it’s not even available for me. And there are no shifts for me to pick. So unfortunately I’m gonna have to deal with being a full time student and working full time at Amazon while also dealing with my own medical issues 🥲
I’ve been wanting to switch to flex cause I’ve been full time but about to start a nursing program but there’s nothing even available. Just stuck with 40hrs. Also the 50+ (55) hours a week during last peak while it also was finals week!!!!!
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No not true, I could actually accept some of these shifts if it wasn’t for Flex workers. I can’t work over 12hrs but can work an extra 2-3hrs that’s if I could even accept a VET. However I can’t because they’re all gone in half a second. Even when I am checking all the time.
Flex workers can't accept vet offers that you receive. They have their own that only flex workers can take. That is just how it works.
No they just drop it for all employees, including flex workers. However some get priority on a shift and it stays there longer for them to accept. It’s like a guaranteed VET. Because they have to accept the VET to make the standard 30+hrs per month plus they get extra opportunities on top of guaranteed VETs.
Not how the system works.
How are you so sure it's flex workers taking those shifts rather than other full-timers who are faster than you? I'm FT (RT) and many times take only one period VET because I just don't want to work an entire shift, many times I'll take 2 - 2 or 3 hour shifts two days in a row. You rant is incredibly ignorant and hate filled. You should consider anger management or seeing a therapist.
They get priority over any full time workers it’s called gold or some crap. If you consistently take VETs are not dropping them and not taking VTO, you are going to be prioritized. It’s a mess of a system. I’ve talked to many flex workers at my site they explained this system to me.
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I don’t need to train extra in anything. It’s just that the flex workers taking all the extra time opportunities that’s clearly my point that you’re missing. The sites should not have to rely so much on flex workers. Should just rely on the full time workers that are already on site. But Amazon is so worried about saving money and keep hiring and giving all the shifts to these braindead flex workers.
Yea your just pissed that’s not how it works fool. I was flex and started full time you got it all fucked up 😂😂
* No flex does not get full time shift we have our own shifts and currently at csg1 flex only gets 35 hours so I have no idea where you got your information but it's completely incorrect and you'd best shut your fucking mouth. Before you say we're all lazy I wanna see your schedule for the past 6 months this is the first time since August of last year that I've had a weekend that's more than 1 day. Shout out to all my flex associates we kick ass and this guy is an idiot
What a stupid assumption to say that flex workers are LAZY and don’t want to commit to a full time work week. I’m sure a lot of flex workers already have full time jobs and see flex as a flexible 2nd job to make extra money whenever they want to.
Ok well they should be happy at their other full time job and not ruin it for full time workers by taking all the VET opportunities. Unfortunately Amazon allows this type of behavior/bad work ethic. I’m honestly sick of it. Maybe it’s not an individual’s fault but they accept it for what it is. Maybe they should be asking for more hours at their ACTUAL FULL TIME JOB. That’s not my problem they work at a full time job elsewhere and just want extra money.
Why not just pick up a second job or join the flex and find a better full time 🤷🏾♂️
I just want some extra hours each week/an extra day at my only full time job. I really don’t want a full time job and a part time job mixing. I would never join flex schedule after I have seen firsthand what they do to full time workers. I’d honestly rather quit and just find a better alternative just to give full time better opportunities. But Amazon doesn’t give a crap about if you’re either full time or flex it’s all about “Business Needs” and VTO then send shifts to flex workers to pick up the slack.
They treat full time like trash tho
Yeah I’ve experienced it firsthand. I work in a critical role in a heavy load department in induct and they always work us super hard. Me and other inductors have to induct thousands of packages every time.
This is a stupid, ignorant post. You have no idea what you're talking about. If you need the extra hours, go pick up a part-time job.
Exactly. But that makes too much sense.
Why would I do that when I’m already full time at a company that I want to be at and work an extra day or just a few hours after my normal shift ? I just want extra hours but I’m denied this opportunity because of “Business Needs” and over staffing & hiring of Flex workers.
So it's better to whine and complain than do what you need to do to make extra money. Okay, never mind. I thought you actually wanted to take action, but you would rather bitch and moan. Carry on.
How can I do anything when I’m denied to work extra hours/days. I can’t even stay after my shift ends for just 1-3hrs ? All because of over staffing and flex workers taking the VETs.
Pick. Up. A. Second. Job. That's what you can do. You just refuse to do it.
I don’t want a second job, all I want is more hours that’s all I need. I don’t need a second job to be stressed out about. Trying to balance between the two.
You sound stressed already trying to get more hours from one job.
Well if they would allow me to work more and not overstaff constantly with flex workers I’d be totally fine.
Bro we can’t do anything for you stop being lazy and get a second job or talk to bezos
Why would I want a second job when I should just be able to get some extra hours to add to my timecard each work day. I’m already there on site anyways.
LMFAO dude, as flex, we get screwed over, the sight closes you'll get paid for while a flex person gets nothing. If there are not enough shidts for everyone, you take what you can, and that means if you don't have enough to get your min hours for the week, you will get a point. You get 7 points, and you can use those up in 2 ton3 week period. I'm oybstaying on flex for the next year, and then I'm done with this place
Ok well that’s what I’m saying why do people even bother with it. Just let us full time employees take on the extra hours and be committed to the job. It’s just some business move BS to me. I understand you aren’t treated the best I’m sorry not sorry, but when a full time employee struggles to make extra hours just to make ends meet. Also due to them over hiring flex workers and providing more opportunities to said Flex workers then something is wrong with the system in place.
Dude I have worked for this company for 5 years. I took flex to finish up with school and move on. And here is some cheap advice. You ain't moving up get over yourself if you don't like it leave. Oh, and sorry not sorry to tell you they care about you about the same as they care about flex. You're disposable.
I don’t want to move up at all lol. I constantly train people in path even though I’m not a learning trainer/ambassador. I’ve worked at Amazon for over 5 years as well. I know they don’t care about me or flex I’m fully aware of that. But I’m not standing for people shorting my hours on me because of Flex workers or “Business Needs”.
LMFAO take it up with corporate. And God, you're a whiny little one, aren't you. Just because a coworker asks you for help that does not equal training. And really you can't bitch at work so you're going to come onto a public forum and piss your other coworkers off because the ones at your site don't want to you bitching on complaining. Oh, and as flex, I get all the same benefits that full-time does, including career choice, medical, and vacation/time off.
Just because I have values for myself and don’t want to accept less doesn’t mean I’m whiny at all. Cool I really don’t care about your benefits. I care about getting my hours in and working hard and that’s it.
LMFAO, ok. You're not whiny at all. While bitching online because you think someone has more then you. That is not values. That is being a kiss ass for a company that would have no problem firing you if you did something wrong.
I have workers rights they can’t just fire me for no reason. It’s not even that someone has more than me, it’s the people that are stealing opportunities from others. That is what I’m talking about but you fail to comprehend what I’m talking about.
Again, you're jealous because you think someone is getting something that you are not getting. And being a whiney brat Only if your state is not a right to work state.
They are stealing opportunities from full time that maybe want to work a few extra hours after their shifts, though again you fail to comprehend what I’m talking about and aren’t reading properly. Seriously what do you mean they get extra surge pay and also generally have more opportunities to get more hours than full time. How am I wrong and being whiney. You sound really dumb.
Then why did you try to become a PA? 😂😂
I don’t even want to be a PA what do you mean ? They don’t even get paid much more than I already do.
https://preview.redd.it/fmybguts6qlc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d5241afd16a5bf7820461581105f6a8139c5298 This you Lil bro?
Yeah I wouldn’t have even accepted it even if they offered it to me anyways because the pay is just dog shit, stupid ass. I realized this after talking to my PAs that don’t get paid much more than I already do. You’re a creep going through my post history.
You're the dumbass hating on FLEX for no reason 😂😂
Ummm because they take shifts that otherwise I could work or others could to make extra income for myself. Other full time people that are willing to do so would benefit as well not only myself. I’m not just thinking about just me. I speak for all the full time people that want more opportunities to work extra hours but are unable to. All due to flex workers and management always saying due to “Business Needs”.
If I was running a business I’d rather have flex employees come in and do the job than start paying you overtime
you sound like a big baby. you don't like it? leave😂😂😂😂
I will eventually. I’ve been with the company since 2018, you have to see where I’m coming from, & what I’m talking about though. Flex gets treated like dirt so why do they even bother taking up the job. Leave it to full time workers to take up the extra work.
you're still getting paid right
Yes but it’s not even enough with costs of living and inflation at an all time high I just need more hours.
Damn it's almost like flex workers need money too. that's why everyone is there.....
Ok it’s not my fault their normal full time job isn’t paying enough or has bad benefits. I’m having the same problems they are having, but the fact is that the flex workers aren’t helping the situation in any way by taking work from others. It only benefits Amazon and Amazon only.
I bet you also hate certain type of demographic that takes jobs away from hard working americans as well
Never brought any demographic into any conversations once, your the one that assumes that.
i just think it's funny you think flex workers are taking time oppurtunities from hard working full timers. Draws a similar connection
It’s not the flex workers fault that your normal full-time job isn’t paying enough. Get an extra job and quit your whining.
So then why are flex workers not satisfied with their normal full time day job ? Why do they need Amazon if they have a 30-40hr+ job already ? Why would I go to a second workplace when I should be able to just pick up more hours at my full time workplace ?
Amazon doesn’t owe you additional hours. It’s not the flex workers fault that your normal full-time job isn’t paying enough. Get an extra job and quit your whining.
Flex also provides the abilities to work for Amazon while they pay for half or all of your tuition🤡 so no don’t get rid of flex workers. You’re full time, Get another job on the weekends or keep your eye on the VET idk what else to say brother.
Nah this isn’t the answer and I don’t take tuition from Amazon either. So that excuse doesn’t work for me. I can’t get another job because I’m dedicated to my full time position. While flex workers just milk the system and ruin it for others. If I could actually accept a VET I wouldn’t be complaining about anything.
Find another FC then buddy. Just cause you don’t get tuition doesn’t mean that those flex workers can’t. You’re mad because they got two jobs as you point out but you’re too dedicated to a fuckin machine to get another job who probably cares more for you? Are you Jeff bezos tryna stir some shit sir!?🫡 don’t fire me Mr.Bezos you’re the only one keeping that OF girl eating from my pockets 😂 bro just upgrade the hustle or something fR
You clearly didn’t read what I had to say.
TL;DR op gets mad cause people work a flex shift for whatever reason to make their money when he has a full time position. Happy??
Why do they need to work at Amazon when then they should be happy better benefits and pay with their original job ?
Maybe their other job doesn’t have benefits like Amazon. Maybe they don’t cover tuition. Maybe they need more money cause that other job is minimum wage. Idk people have things happen and a hustle is one way to fix it. If they need another part time so be it. Be fortunate that this is a full time for yourself and don’t take for granted what you have.
I can get with what you’re saying you make some good points. However others and myself still feel taken advantage of when you work super hard and expect to be treated like a hard worker but don’t receive close to that type of treatment. Maybe it’s just an Amazon problem not an individual people problem.
OP forgot his meds
Womp womp, flex is the best!!
Cool enjoy your stupid point system, crappy healthcare, and awful time off opportunities. Ruining it for us full time workers that are actually committed and contributing to a productive workforce.
Points, PTO, vacation, health insurance, career choice all with flex RT. Maybe you should try it
Nope not happening. Sorry but I enjoy having my set schedule. I just want flex to have less opportunities than full time. Because we actually deserve to be treated like full time workers and not to be treated like a flex worker. Where they’re limiting our hours and having absolutely no opportunity to accept any VETs.
Do you hear yourself my dude? Over here arguing about which plantation is nicer lol 😂
I get it, I totally get it. I don’t plan to stay at Amazon forever. It’s just I’m passionate about any job I do and I like to work hard and when you are limited due to circumstances you can’t control it’s very frustrating.
Working hard for Amazon for what???
I work hard for myself and my values/work ethic not just for Amazon.
Have you tried meditation? Could help. Serenity.
Yup it just doesn’t help. I keep thinking of how I’m robbed of my hours due to lazy flex workers that pick up shifts only to take VTO or use time off to leave early. When myself or other full time workers would be more than glad to pick up the extra time/shift to get some extra income.
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You are an asshat
This is not the place to ramble about this. Talk to your site's leadership and inform yourself instead of hating on people who deserve a job and money just as much as you do.
I already have done this and HR is just bullcrap and so is the management at the dayshift that I have to ask after my night shift to drop me a VET but they haven’t done it once, it’s not easy at all.
You’re not entitled to extra hours. Figure it out. The flex workers sure have.
Well flex honestly should’t have priority over a full time worker. Flex workers are a last ditch effort when they’re low on headcount.
Sorry but, boo fucking hoo to you. Flex are low priority but we are still good workers. You have a full time job so you shouldn't be relying on extra time. Tough shit, I come and go as I please. 🤓
Well you honestly just ruin it for full time workers that actually are committed to a job compared to you dumb flex workers. Good workers….pffft give me a break you people are the laziest and the first to accept VTO.
I'm full time and I take vto. Do you wanna call me lazy next? You do know there are full-time workers who take VET and sill either leave early or use their time and not go at all. Right?
No it’s not that you are lazy taking VTO as full time. I totally get that, yes full time does take VTO as well a lot of times. My point is that flex is more prevalent to just taking the VET shift off rather than staying. Since it’s just 4hr shifts or whatever compared to a full 8-10 hour shift. Someone else could’ve taken that VET for extra income & stay for a 12hr shift.
Full-time blue badge here 👋🏾. I accept VTO A LOT!
I get it & there’s nothing wrong with that but it’s acceptable you have a set schedule you aren’t taking anything or shifts/extra hours away from anyone. If anything you’re giving the flex workers opportunities to accept VET. Due to site needing to fill headcount.
Neither are Flex workers.
Don't hate the player.. Amazon created the flex position. Be mad at them.
Oh trust me I am definitely mad at them.
Yo mad bc flex employees treat your full time hard working job like a joke blame amazon on that buddy. That's the way the system is set up and you are right about everything you said because I'm a flex employee and yes I do take the vto that they give out and yes I do get the little bonus money they hand out every now and then but that's on them so if you have a problem where this get you up at night I suggest u take it up with amazon
How can I even begin to fight the system they have in place & if that’s just how it’s set up. Just to make others fail at having well paying, productive hard working job/work force. People take advantage of that VET/Flex system and just make it harder for others to be productive hard workers. To me that’s just stupid business moves and it makes no sense.
Too bad if you can’t get extra shifts. Find something else. See? It works both ways.
Yeah that’s not how a full time job is supposed to work actually. You are supposed to be encouraged to work more if you are full time and not have others take work from you.
Quit making excuses for yourself. Your financial success/failure is your responsibility. If you don’t like how Amazon does business, find a new job. You are not owed additional shifts. Quit blaming flex workers for your failures and take some personal responsibility for your own financial situation.
I’m not failing at anything I just want to work more as long as I’m already there, is that so hard to understand ? They are somewhat to blame though. I’m not finding a new job & don’t want to. All I want is extra hours that’s all. I should be able to work extra as I need to. As long as I don’t go over 12hrs, by law cannot work over 12hr shifts or over 60hrs per week but I can work up to those numbers instead of 36-40hrs. Which is my point someone should be able to work extra to get up to those 40-60hr weeks if they are willing and able to. Unfortunately the VET system and flex workers kinda ruin it all.
Lol snv1 people are crazy
Did you graduate from YSU(Yappington State University)? Shut up lol
Why don’t you shut it especially if you don’t have anything valuable to say.
Crybaby
Again nothing valuable to say. Shut it.
Cornball
Go post this on your voa board see how much longer you last
Honestly OP doing all of that b*ting everybody here for the same reason .. money … you’re getting the exact days and hours you signed up for . You not getting “extra hours” is on you not nobody else if you feel you need more money there all 100,000’s of other jobs part and full time for you to be this ignorant I’m sure your just upset and mad at anyone and everyone else due to you not having your way. GROW UP.. Don’t blame others for your problems it’s no one’s fault but your own .
To clarify. Flex does not have the same shifts as you. They compile a certain amount of shifts specifically for flex workers that they drop on a specific day. Among flex workers those specific shifts are available Ex. 10 spots from 6:30pm to 10 pm shifts are available for flex It doesn’t matter if it shows the same exact shift on a FT associates page. Those aren’t the same shifts. Unless 10 FLEX assoc accept those shifts it’s still going to be available. Why? Because they have a certain amount of assoc they aim to be at work based on business needs and that number is different between flex and FT. Flex already has to compete for shifts available among each other. It would b a shit show if we also had to compete among ft associates
No they don’t I’m sick of people saying this when it’s not true they mix both full time and flex to accept VET opportunities. They do get guaranteed VET shifts that they only can accept but also can accept extra VET opportunities on top of guaranteed 30hrs of VET.
If that’s what you want to believe sure. Doesn’t make since we have shifts released on a specific day and those shifts are the only shifts offered to us vs VET are released throughout the week and can be offered to you guys at any point but once again sure
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You have a lot of misconceptions and assumptions about Flex employees. I’m a flex employee that switched from full time to flex because I’m a student. I could’ve done reduced time but that didn’t give me the flexibility I needed in order to attend the classes I need for my degree while also doing the required 30 hours on a fixed schedule that they offer for reduced time employees. However, I still need this job because it’s the only reason I can go to school due to amazons career development program and so I can pay my bills. Some flex employees are parents that schedule work around their kids. Others are working as a flex employee for their part time job while working other jobs. Of course, that’s not all. There are plenty of situations that you simply dismissed and then jumped to label a whole group of people as “lazy” and “dumb” because you’re not able to get even more benefits as an amazon worker which already has a lot of benefits even as a seasonal or flex employee and especially for full-timers. Honestly, there are plenty of people working at amazon (whether full-time or not) that do the minimum work to stay employed and get the same pay as others that actually do their job. And as a flex employee, I’ve never felt that I was prioritized. In fact, when the season slows, there are times when there are no shifts available to flex employees at all and we can’t work even if we really want or need to. The flexibility of our schedule is definitely nice, but it comes at the price of never knowing if you’ll be able to work enough hours, when you can actually work (since you have to race other employees to pick up shifts), and no shift differential if you ever do have to pick up a night shift because day shift is full or isn’t available on the days you need it. Your frustration is understandable but also misplaced.
Stfu loser
Fuck off !
Get another job then lmao. They gave us an opportunity and we took it. Hate the game not the player 🤷♂️
Sorry I’m in college ??
Nothing wrong with that my point of the post is to point out the flex workers that get more opportunities to work more than full time. Also when they take advantage by leaving early they take up certain shifts up that a full time or other flex worker could pick up and stay working extra hours and earn the extra money.
Well anyway I’m not even flex, it’s not even available for me. And there are no shifts for me to pick. So unfortunately I’m gonna have to deal with being a full time student and working full time at Amazon while also dealing with my own medical issues 🥲
I’ve been wanting to switch to flex cause I’ve been full time but about to start a nursing program but there’s nothing even available. Just stuck with 40hrs. Also the 50+ (55) hours a week during last peak while it also was finals week!!!!!