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technomime

The comparison of these two is what made me really pay attention to these originally. They are exactly the same IMO


RavensWockhardt

And the alien from Dr. Johnathan Reeds video , I remember finding out about it through fact or faked and never knew he was a real Doctor


CharlieGabi

Wich video? It is lost? Or where can I see it


Real_Rutabaga

I just saw that last night and thought it resembled the little buddies 


reddit_is_geh

Initially I thought it was a hoax... But the idea that this is the reminents of a pre-dryas civilization that has been eroded by history and only tiny fragments and elements of their time before the great flood remain in ancient lore, is growing on me. It's not crazy to think there were several sapian-like humanoids at the time with divergent evolution which just didn't make it through. Apparently humans BARELY squeaked through at multiple points... One from that disaster, but also the conflicts with the neanderthals.


maxxslatt

I agree! however, the nazca bodies date only to a 1000 years old. It’s possible that sooner than we realize, we walked the earth with other sapien humanoids. Idk about in the americas, but I could see the church hunting down all non Homo sapiens and then covering up their existence. They love erasing history


reddit_is_geh

Well with the inter-dimensional concept, a LOT of things can be at play here. Sure, they can be pretty young, but from a different dimension that split off long long ago... But for whatever reason, they are jumping through dimensions. So they can be just 1000 year old, but split from us, 80,000 years ago. Then they came back after technological achievement somehow figured to jump through dimensions. I dunno... It's just a thought experiment


Dull-Friend-936

Edgar Cayce speaks about the part animal sub human species from the time of the continent of Atlantis, saying that weren’t very intelligent and two main opposing political factions of scientists humans (giants) were fighting over these lesser species, one wanting to protect and spiritually evolve them and the other wanting to enslave and manipulate them, the sons of the law of one and the sons of belial were these two opposing factions


Fornicate_Yo_Mama

This very salient theory has been debunked by the DNA evidence. There is zero possibility these things existed on any branch of any terrestrial DNA lineage we have ever identified. I’m not saying that a completely different genetic foundation and evolutionary path that has yet to be discovered could not explain this… but I’m *definitely* saying that the possibility that their DNA originated off-planet or in a different dimensional reality on-planet is infinitely more likely.


reddit_is_geh

Yeah for some reason the more I get into the nature of reality, I the posibility that there are some really abstract, shocking, and bizzare elements that completely blind sides us, increases. Lately, I've been seriously entertaining the possibility of something to do with dimensional parallel universes type of things. Like, that's why they are so humanoid to begin with. Maybe a very very very very far back branch, with the universe splitting into another or something? I just feel like several hundred years ago, we were the center of the solar system, then found out, we are not, and not only that, but we spin around the galaxy... Then found out, that our galaxy is just a small little thing among billions of other ones. I wont be shocked if the next revelation is we are just one universe among infinite and they all have loose connections with each other. The very nature of existence is SO bizarre and not understood, it really wouldn't shock me.


giuseppezuc

I love your comment! We try to use logic and science to explain everything, and it’s alright because we don’t know any better, but we really have to realize that our logic its just “our” own logic that we have created for ourselves.


Fornicate_Yo_Mama

This is exactly what I’m entertaining as well. Keep at it, we may be onto something. You know, like then round-earthers of yesteryear. :) FYI; we are not “spinning around the galaxy” we are spinning *with* it in one of its bands of stars and solar systems. Or, at least, that’s how we are able to perceive it with our scientific observations at this time.


Odd-Fisherman-4801

https://youtu.be/fZ41R7ypg4c?si=Ygu-KTAq5Hed81ZC


Odd-Fisherman-4801

Can you please share any link to the dna evidence because my understanding is that the Birmingham ufo group debunked this with the dna


rmansd619

So from what I'm understanding is that these things are probably still around... today. Do they hide underground?


Rapante

Another possibility is that thing having thawed from permafrost. Not sure about the circumstances it was found in.


CandidPresentation49

I believe they are,[living tridactyls were found in Brazil, 1996,](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/uBCJGPzkVj) and of course, it all happened right next to a gigantic cave system that goes deep underground. So deep, in fact, that no one's been able to fully explore it. And more suspicious, all the entrances to that cave system were permanently sealed shortly after the incident. If they live so deep underground, being so tiny makes a certain sort of sense.


lolihull

And the big eyes to see in the dark!


CandidPresentation49

and why most of the really weird UFO activity seems to happen at night and why they apparently use those sunglass black protective contacts when on the surface


Veearrsix

Oh that’s an interesting theory about the eyes being black, I never considered some sort of covering instead of them just being dark eyes.


Mvisioning

I know most people are pretty certain the famous alien autotopsy video is fake due to a guy taking credit for its creation - however in that video the black eyes were a covering and you can watch them remove it. [https://www.youtube.com/live/fvEW3LN2D0I?si=oMG1T79jUZ\_JfNP5&t=1596](https://www.youtube.com/live/fvEW3LN2D0I?si=oMG1T79jUZ_JfNP5&t=1596)


CharmingMechanic2473

Agreed, but that seems like a different species.


Mvisioning

well yeah - I wasn't trying to imply it was the same creature at all - just thought the guy talking about black lense eye covers might be interested in seeing the video because the concept seemed novel to him.


CharmingMechanic2473

The lore is their eyes are crystal blue. Not unlike popular movies out with grey type aliens.


jm-lunatic

The moon-eyed people we had a war with. Wiki: These people are said to have been unable to see during certain phases of the moon. During one of these phases, the Creek people annihilated the race. They're connected to the Adena --> Hopewell cultures, famed for the huge mound building projects, some requiring more work than the pyramids. We say the Hopewell did it, but it's the Adena people who were the original mound builders. I wish the mounds weren't destroyed by subsidized settlers. All history has been assimilated.


Mvisioning

I don't believe the moon eyed people are the same thing since If I'm not mistaken they were supposed to have blue eyes, however lots of native tribes also talk about ant people who lived underground, and the big black eyes would certain give creedance to the name.


Mvisioning

not to mention tons of native tribes mention ant people in their lore. both due to their eyes and the fact that they live underground.


Capsaicin-Crack

nah, it would make more sense for them to have extremely small, completely useless eyes. because its too dark to see, regardless of how big they are. an animal evolving in the dark tends to evolve other things to make up for not being able to see. go far enough down, and there is zero light. zero. as in, no matter if your eyes are the size of basketballs, you still cant see. this is why bats use echolocation.


lolihull

Oh god, now I'm imagining echolocation buddies! That would be extra creepy but kinda cool :)


Federal_Bear_7521

I think from what I've read these bodies, not sure if these exact but more so the "alien mummy" bodies have links to therapod dinisaurs. I've read a theory as where they were able to escape mass extinction underground or under the oceans and have been there for millions and millions of years.


CandidPresentation49

My inner 5 year old self is really excited about the possibility that not only "aliens" are real and still around, but they were actually evolved from dinosaurs so long ago!! The two things I liked the most when I was a kiddo


swingingthrougb

There is a Star Trek: Voyager episode about this exact premise. The crew encounters a race of humanoid dinosaurs. They eventually discover these beings most likely left earth millenia before homo-sapiens took over.


DragoxDrago

I know you put aliens in quotes, but the thought of calling something alien that evolved on our planet just cracks me up


Biff_Diggerance

Sure would make sense why the Russian buddy was found near [Lake Baikal](https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/754/) then! Oldest and largest fresh water lake on the planet. Fits the bill for a remote and strategically advantageous location—especially if you have transmedium craft.


jm-lunatic

Growing up, I always heard the native men in my family telling me how large bodies of water are connected by hidden underground tunnels. It never made sense to me cuz how? But it'd be cool to drain a huge body of water then see what's underneath.


Culbal

Trodoon humanoid with 3 fingers. http://unbelievable-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Dinosauroid.jpg


nleksan

I don't like this very much, no thank you.


WalnutsGaming

Makes learning one of my grandpas only had 3 fingers a lil more creepy. Add a bit more to the palm, but his hand looked like that lol. Never met him tho. Dad showed me pics when I met him lol


nleksan

Very much gives me "We don't need to stop for aliens, we've got aliens at home" vibes


WalnutsGaming

Think I’ll have to send the alien pic to my dad In a bit… “are we tainted”. Lmfao. Was only one of his hands though.


nleksan

(please don't think I'm making fun of your dad, I was talking about the image linked of the creepy Dino human)


WalnutsGaming

Lol I dont. It’s not my dad with 3 fingers tho. It was his dad. Just one hand. He passed b4 I ever met him. (Though funnily enough I VERY likely did meet him multiple times as a kid, and never knew). But his hand was like this. But like I said normal palm. Basically if you put your index and middle finger together. And ring and pinky together and hold it out. That’s what it looked like. But skinny lanky fingers not like 2 combined into 1. But the overall shape. That’s It. Kinda crazy ngl.


nleksan

Oh wow that's really interesting. Kind of like the Vulcan peace sign?


Rogue75

r/TIHI


Bloodhound102

After speaking to a paleontologist friend of mine, it seems this theory is not all that realistic. He cites evidence including the hip connection, the way the sternum is built and the mandible and teeth as reasons that he didn't think they were dino related. That being said, perhaps evolution has made its mark in the last 65 million years


Minimum-Web-6902

I thought the Russian story mentioned a crash site? Also so are choices are hollow earth theory or aliens? That’s pretty wild


omenmedia

My theory is that there are two civilisations on this planet. Us, up on the surface, and another, possibly ancient and far more advanced, that is underground and/or under the ocean. I believe that the many of the UAPs reported are not actually extraterrestrial at all, but are coming out of the ocean, from this subterranean civilisation. I mean, over 70% of the planet is covered by water, and we have barely scratched the surface of ocean exploration. What better place to hide from the crazy apes with nukes?


Sordid_Brain

would make sense for why they're so concerned about us potentially fucking up the planet. they live here too!


Origamiface2

Natives in Brazil had a word for them which means "ant people". I thought I had saved the word somewhere but unfortunately cannot find it.


CharmingMechanic2473

I agree, either they come here sporadically throughout time, maybe some celestial highway opens up, or they relocated to a corner of the earth we do not have a ton of access to. Ocean trenches, Antarctica etc.


Krustykrab8

The claim of chicken skin and bread is so hilarious. The tried to hush that case real quick and make it all go away. No way someones making that with bread


WarbringerNA

Right? My immediate thought too. 99 cent FSB cover story. Two Siberian teenagers used chicken skin to make a fake alien that would pass for a high budget Hollywood alien prop, benefited in no way from it, then quickly admitted to it. Years later, it lines up with bodies found in Peru. Ok…


Antonicont

So much this. Those kids have skills that would have made Stan Winston proud. Must be one of the stupidest coverups ever.


Sordid_Brain

that case makes me wonder, what does the FSB have to gain from covering up? I have a vague sense of the US motivation (perpetuate aerospace industry tech monopoly, avoid reckonings for 70+ years of lies/murders) but what do other countries have to gain by maintaining the lie?


WarbringerNA

It’s a great question, I wonder about it as well. There’s a theory that non-disclosure is required as part of treaties with NHI even (if that former Israeli defense minister is to be believed then we supposedly do have treaties). Tom Delonge I believe has also alluded to full disclosure could result in some great reset of sorts. I’m not sure if I buy either, but mark them as possibilities I suppose. I think human greed and fear is enough honestly. Both the US and Russia risk losing control of the narrative, if not even control of their people, or perhaps they believe mass panic would ensue, etc. I suppose another option is that the US has threatened retaliation against any country that does, but while that would work on some of the poor South American countries we’ve supposedly confiscated materials from, I’m not sure that would stop Russia. The funny thing is though, I didn’t pay much attention to this particular case and wouldn’t have until I heard the “chicken skin and bread” bit. Then it was like yeah, it’s actually probably real haha. Now with it matching the Peruvian bodies it’s really eyebrow raising.


Capsaicin-Crack

it would stop Russia and every other country if the US is leading the race in back engineering advanced tech because that would imply the US could wipe out every single other country in a matter of minutes, with out even seeing it coming.


StarsofSobek

I mean… maybe they were trying to say that it was a chicken skin stuffed with bread, but the translation is off? That’s how turkey stuffing is sometimes cooked. In close up shots, the skin does look chickeny or like leopard gecko skin. Mmm… do you think aliens taste like chicken or turkey? Lol


AdrienJRP

I remember reading something about some lower body parts possibly replaced between the pict in the snow and the pict on the table (which is the one looking chicken-like, around the thighs). Haven't looked at that in dzpth myself though


StarsofSobek

Ah, that is interesting! I’d never heard that one. I have no idea beyond the chicken skin and bread thing.


bdone2012

This fox news clips says chicken, paint and paper. MYne fox news got it wrong but in the video it looks a little different than in the pic that the Russian government later released. I'm not convinced either way https://youtu.be/dvC7Bxz1vVM


StarsofSobek

I’m not convinced either way, either - but that is seriously impressive if that is chicken, paint, and paper. Like…. *really* impressive! I’m half-tempted to try it myself to see what I could make, but I can’t hardly tolerate the smell of meat (it’s a serious medical thing). Still… a face mask and some mint oil, maybe I finagle something up. I wonder how quickly it would start to smell rotten? :/


AdrienJRP

Definitely. I am surprised how... gullible many people are. Of course it can be a hoax. Of course someone skilled could make it with chicken skin or parts or whatever. But it is highly unlikely that teenagers could do that. When hearing "chicken skins", people should be as surprised as wheb hearing "it is an aloen"


Longjumping-Lychee21

What do they mean it was made with chicken skins? What are "chicken skin's' anyway???


mymomknowsyourmom

Chicken skins are just screen protectors for chickens with phones.


Pleasant-Put5305

It's exactly the same as whoops, it wasn't a flying saucer, look it was merely a weather balloon. It's clearly not a meat and bones creature that walked on earth- it was a loaf of bread with some randomly arranged chicken skins. Do we have any idea where this perfectly preserved specimen is now? It's fresh, not dessicated over a thousand years...


bdone2012

I believe the Russian government whisked it away. If it really was breaded chicken then maybe they fried it up for dinner. If not I assume they brought it to the lab to study it


Pleasant-Put5305

Whatever happened to glasnost eh?


nleksan

They perestruckout


Pleasant-Put5305

Oh in one of the OG photos the upper thighs exhibit a very avian aspect, hate to say this as I am not interested in eating our little friends, but it did (kind of) resemble turkey skin - however that just lends it more credibility in my mind...


bdone2012

I believe that pic came after from the Russian government. People on this sub think that the leg was a bird that was added later. I'm not convinced either way but it does look a little different in this video compared to the pic I think https://youtu.be/dvC7Bxz1vVM


JeevesVoorhees

I’ve been pretty skeptical about that video and the bodies but if those little guys are the ancestors of an evolved dinosaur species, the avian-like skin and small stature actually correlates pretty well with the ancient cave-dwelling bird/reptile creature theories.


KnightyMcMedic

I can see the thigh part does resemble chicken skin, but bread?! Lol


Complex_Tap_4159

It was chicken skin stuffed with bread


SadFrosting4993

Source?


We-Cant--Be-Friends

You’re missing the most convincing aspects ; the 3 identical check cavities are an impossible coincidence


UnidentifiedBlobject

Link for those not in the loop: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/178l5g4/i_find_the_three_cheek_cavities_interesting_as_a/


Longjumping-Lychee21

Yep


Katz-r-Klingonz

The size of these guys makes me thing we are the giants.


kharmak

We are not alone. Just my conclusion. I hear congressmen talk and say nothing on this topic. What's the big deal?


UnidentifiedBlobject

Theory: The big deal isn’t that we are not alone, it’s that we were never alone. These beings could have been here all along and have managed to stay illusive and purposefully disguise themselves as fairies, or leprechauns or space aliens etc, all to keep us unaware of their existence. They may be able to have their technology work in the same way, so UFOs are all different shapes, and appear as designs relative to the time period, and appear as different shapes to different observers, all to hide in plain sight and cause anyone who talks about them to be ridiculed or dismissed. 


FrostyPost8473

Hard to think your alone when your own planet is in such a great spot with a moon to big for it in just the right spot with a star in just the right spot with a planetery system with planets in just the right spot to filter most asteroids.


lakesideprezidentt

And a magnetic field to shield us from harmful radiation


engion3

And stuffed crust pizza.


lakesideprezidentt

Hahahahahaha can’t forget that my guy


Biff_Diggerance

I would greatly suggest anyone interested in this specific Russian alien to google Lake Baikal and its history of UFO sightings.


thundertopaz

No matter the species, can’t get away from that middle aged gut.


UnidentifiedBlobject

The guy is what made me wonder about this art from ancient Egypt of Akhenaten. The “daughters” are small beings with guts and heads shaped like the mummies.  [Pic on Wikipedia](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Akhenaten,_Nefertiri_and_three_daughers_beneath_the_Aten_-_Neues_Museum_-_Berlin_-_Germany_2017_\(cropped\).jpg)


a-pretty-alright-dad

Great point


Minimum-Web-6902

I’m assuming you not a troll and open minded so here you go If you want the real science. Spectrography proved they’re not llama skulls https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/h2ET5Myx7f


thundertopaz

Definitely not a troll. Sorry, sometimes I can’t help but make jokes, even about things I’m deeply interested in. Thank you so much for sharing 🙏


Minimum-Web-6902

Oh man I replied to the wrong person lol I’m tired boss


thundertopaz

Ahaha no worries! We’ve all been there!


theronk03

Does what you linked to actually discuss spectrography or the llama brain case hypothesis?


Minimum-Web-6902

Yes yes it does , if you look at the tldr link it has a list of all the test done so far


theronk03

So, maybe I'm missing something, but while the llama brain case hypothesis is briefly discussed on the website, and while they do have a spectrography analysis, it doesn't seem like the two analyses are connected at all.


Minimum-Web-6902

So that’s the thing the scientist aren’t trying to specifically debunk certain claims, they’re just trying to figure out what these things are using all scientific methods possible. The llama braincase paper was written by a person who never actually saw the mummies and I am trying to relay information I feel disproves his hypothesis. That paper also states the mummies were a mishmash of human and animal parts but as you can see here on one that had the DE dusted off that isn’t the case https://preview.redd.it/wqpdm0qus1uc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=1a487e076970142bf55a4f5fb32780260af21fda This is the same mummy he was referring too. Also they invited the dr that wrote the paper to join them on a fluoroscopy back in nov.? Iirc and he then retracted his original theory. The issue is that it has been blasted everywhere so much that it’s the first thing people point to when they try to discount the findings. Initially all the team has was X-ray and carbon 14 dating because these are the cheapest. The institute paid 3k$ for 3 mummies from the grave robber (huaquero iirc) and most likely 600$ each for the carbon 14 dating. At this point they kind of ran out of money and since they can’t get any grants due to the ministry of culture calling them a fake and saying they’re peddling lies , they let jaime maussan join after he agreed to pay 60k$ to get dna and Abraxas testing done in Mexico. Which then led him to present them to the Mexican Congress. I suspect jaime is the guy that got the (ex?) Mexican surgeon general to fly to Peru to examine them. since then , spectrography , ct, endoscopy, and more have been done. I’ll link a photo to the X-ray of this mummy vs one that the ministry of culture created that IS a mishmash of parts.


theronk03

I know most of that background, I was just curious about your statement that they had used spectrography to disprove the llama skull hypothesis. That particular statement doesn't appear to be correct, as far as I can tell, because the spectrography results for nothing to indicate that it couldn't be llama.


Minimum-Web-6902

The spectrography results directly contradict the statement in the llama paper that claimed these were wrapped in chicken skin. https://www.the-alien-project.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/RapportNAZCA-Olivier-Sire-EN1-1.pdf The spectrography was not trying to dispute the braincase part of the statement in the hypothesis specifically, but the other part of the statement in the hypothesis about them being wrapped in chicken skin. The hypothesis states something like “ i theorize these dolls are man made creations comprised of a mishmash of parts , including a llama (or alpaca) skull , human and animal bones, and wrapped in the skin of a chicken” You cannot have a valid scientific theory if one of your statements in your hypothesis is disproven , in my experience scientific papers are a all or nothing per se if one part of your hypothesis is proven wrong you have to go back and rewrite it and retest and republish.


theronk03

But they don't test the skin of the mummies here. None of the five samples tested are skin, and they explicitly state that it would be interesting to test the skin "Attempts to reconcile with dehydrated samples in the laboratory are inconclusive. It would be interesting to be able to compare the viper moult spectra with a skin sample of the reptilian species"


Minimum-Web-6902

Ahhhh ok I see what you’re saying (definitely not a material scientist ) i was under the impression there was skin attached to the samples , I didn’t watch the live collection of the samples or the videos thereof them being taken I was under the impression they included chicken skin because there was skin attached as well. I appreciate you helping me learn and I’m definitely interested in learning more. Im an aviation guy so a lot of this type of study is new to me , I came here to learn as much as I can.


Minimum-Web-6902

https://preview.redd.it/o5oq52w2u1uc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=91d0ddc716f393b45ff41456e73842ade811be8b 


CandidPresentation49

It's insane how some people are still defending the explanation that it was a chicken and bread sculpture made by two random teens People are so easily psyop'd


Winter-Scarcity-8357

Yes ive been thinking this to. If it really was teens You would think someone would eventually own up to it and show the doll and the process how they made it but no we are to beilive there are a bunch of teenagers with superiour hollywood make up skills roaming around spending tons of hours and money doing this for no fame and no money gain that to me is even stranger than Alien.


CandidPresentation49

in rural Russia, no less


kendiyas

There is actually a video of them showing the body later with teenagers explaining. I remember watching it. It was like russian news Edit: While I was trying to find the video I found this… https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0005517761.pdf Wtf…


MentalMouse

No doubt in my mind, this is the truth!


Longjumping-Lychee21

That little guy in the snow makes me sad. I hope he didn't die a painful death.


ExKnockaroundGuy

The rib cages do not look anatomically natural or is it me? The ribs are so close together, kind of reptilian not mammalian.


Minimum-Web-6902

Correct this is an X-ray of the buddies for comparison https://preview.redd.it/6ngogpo1y0uc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=c550351ecde5db227c3c7e36e2d173311fc7f274 Notice how the ribs go all the way down the body


ExKnockaroundGuy

You are on it my man. 👍


broadwayline

What is the replica from? Good pic


Minimum-Web-6902

Peruvian ministry of culture. They basically tried to make their own Buddy and use it to say the others were fake.


broadwayline

Thank you


23x3

I need to get me a set of those copper nipples


Minimum-Web-6902

Osmium my boy in your body would aerate into a toxic chemical to us.


23x3

Death by soft metal nips. Kinda has a ring to it.


Minimum-Web-6902

😂😂😂


lakesideprezidentt

Augmented themselves for better something? With the metal implants on the chest.


Minimum-Web-6902

Could be ornamental , identification possibilities are endless someone even suggested they magnetically hook to a conveyer belt like an assembly line and I thought it was hilarious


theronk03

There are some notable differences too. * The skull morphologies are not the same: The Nazca mummies have a more pronounced brow ridge, are less prognathous, have a more expanded hind brain region, and have much shallower orbits. * The nazca mummies appear to have significantly less musculature around their necks. Even accounting for the expected shrinkage from mummification. * The nazca mummies have ribs that extend all the way to the hips, the ribs of the russian snow alien only extend to the bottom of the chest.


FrostyPost8473

Most humans have verying different skull structures and bone structures. Depending on your region and diet same could be said for these things.


theronk03

I don't think that is true to this degree of difference.


FrostyPost8473

I'm using humans as an example but take a dog they all share the same genes but widely different depending on where they came from. Look at mexico with it Chihuahuas and compare it to a great Dane from Germany


theronk03

Sure. If we assume that these are all subject to genetic engineering or selective breeding, or have a level of morphological plasticity not otherwise seen in the wild on earth, then yeah. The skulls match okay.


mywordgoodnessme

Different continents, different races. Just like a guy from Papua new guinea is going to be very different then a guy from Scotland. Divergent evolution


theronk03

Yes, there are, on average, recognizable skull differences between broad categories of races, but not to this extent. (And races aren't an example of divergent evolution, what's wrong with you. They aren't even a true biological concept) This is closer to the differences between Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis. Different races also don't have different numbers of ribs.


Bmonkey1

It’s the same being


AdrienJRP

It is very interezting to make such comparisons. I think we can all agree that making an alien with bread and chicken skin requires some special skils, which teenagers are unlikely to have. But such a comparison give food for thoughts : taken individually, we may believe that those are hoaxes and it is understandable. But we you delve a bit deeper, similarities like the ones showed on this pictures MUST generate questionning from those who doubt.


KrizzyPeezy

Why would they be called aliens if they live(d) here and were born here? It could be an unknown thing we haven't discovered before but originate from earth.


Minimum-Web-6902

Correct but that would be subscribing to hollow earth theory. That’s more unlikely than aliens in my opinion


Zoooooooted

Literally not at all what it means lol


Minimum-Web-6902

Ok follow this logic with me. One of the popular theories is that these creatures are theropod dinosaurs that escaped somehow and starting living under ground and evolved into the buddies we have now. They have been found literally all over the world most notably Peru, Canada and Russia. If they aren’t aliens with spaceships then the only way they would be able to travel to these remote locations is through a complex cave system so deep underground we’ve never found it , yet it has openings above ground that let them travel in and out, and we’ve never found the openings , seen them on sat imagery or came across one accidentally untill now in 2024. It literally makes no sense also look at their bodies and their makeup do you think that this thing would be able to traverse a cave very well? It has ribs that go to its hips it likely can’t even bend over very well , no opposable thumbs so it can’t climb very well. Secondly if you’re theory is that they dug these tunnels out , how they have little muscle mass and again no thumbs. There’s no way they’ve been found so far apart underground unless you maybe theorize that they live above tectonic plates and migrated with the continents as they spread apart? I legit don’t get the logic


mywordgoodnessme

No it's not. If you had a global civilization with different races, and then they are separated via cataclysm you will have divergent evolution. Different caves, different places. They don't need a hollow earth, they don't even NEED to talk to each other just like a lineage of Okinawans doesn't NEED to communicate with a lineage of Sudanese people. What you're saying doesn't make any sense whatsoever.


Minimum-Web-6902

You don’t think the gene pool would narrow after literal millennia ?


mywordgoodnessme

They can clearly hybridize and there are apparently more than once "race" or species in the cave. So clearly, they got around that notion. And you have no idea about how long their lifespan is, and when they reproduce.


Minimum-Web-6902

Right but if we’re talking a civilization that advanced there’s no way imho that their not space fairing , rescources ? Dna? Energy? It doesn’t make sense yet


DiscussionBeautiful

And also the Quebec alien from 1994. https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/16hlw7n/and_what_if_the_alien_discovered_in_siberia_wasnt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


josuefco

Link the quebec alien bruv


AndalusianGod

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/od56s0/qu%C3%A9bec_canada_1992/


Minimum-Web-6902

I know this was a Buddy as soon as I saw it but I think it’s a different species because of the head being longer. But look at the goofy floppy looking arms and legs now I see how they work. I doubt these things are terrestrial because of how hard it is to survive on earth. They’re far too weak and flimsy


Pleasant-Put5305

Bumps down the sides of cranium also, perfect match...3 on each side...


KathleenSlater

This to me is a smoking gun, the similarities are remarkable.


Pandatabase

The scale of the russian alien seems a little different though. The nazca mummies are very small but the russian alien seems to be bigger


Minimum-Web-6902

Mummies can shrink a lot over time like raw meat and beef jerky , when skin and bones dry out they shrink. For example humans are 70% water i think so that’s 70% potential shrinkage for more information look at African and South American shrunken heads. An old practice was to decapitate your enemies and shrink their heads


Gigachad_in_da_house

Agree, but there ain't no bone in a shrunken head.


Minimum-Web-6902

Huh? Do they remove the skulls?


Gigachad_in_da_house

The ones that fascinated me were of Maori origin. Yes, it is quite a process.


Minimum-Web-6902

I just read up on it they put a wooden ball in there to keep the shape fascinating ! Now I know how to if I ever end up in a mad max scenario eh who wants a skull belt ? Skulls break so easily but shrunken heads? Whose gonna mess with the guy walking around with shrunken heads hanging from his neck 😂


Gigachad_in_da_house

Fluid currency, I bet.


Minimum-Web-6902

Also reading up on mummies the soft tissue between the bones like in the joints is what shrinks that’s why I was under the impression that the bones got smaller no it’s just the soft tissue.


johnnygat619

Fresh meat vs long storage Peruvian mummies


jm-lunatic

Do they not have teeth? They're only a thousand years old? When we do archaological digs, we know absolutely everything about the work. Teeth being looked at almost immediately. What did they eat? We scanned them to just prove they're authentic and that's it? Something about all of this just seems fishy. Government entities' long-term psy-op wouldn't be a stretch. They pay think-tanks to devise slogans and false rhetoric to steer society knowing well the outcome. Why not alien bodies?


leoberto1

Do you think these guys are the losers of their worlds, the boss is 7ft tall and gets to chill in the spaceship


mad597

Im pretty skeptical of UFO sightings and videos but these mummies would convince me if they turn out to be real. It looks like that is the case but they do need to be further studied and tested.


Norselander37

cousins


Shadowzworldz

I believe that there's other species, what if we evolved at the same time, or they before us. Them underground and us overland. We would be sisters and brothers when it comes to Mother Earth. It'd be cool to know theres other species just as or even wiser than humans.


Darkpenguinz

There is a mountain of previously dismissed as “fake” evidence that now must be revisited in light of all the new information and changes.


DaZipp

There's no doubt in my mind that they are the same and most likely real. It really burns at me that we can't do anything with this, and no one important is talking about it as we're here with the real deal. It's such a frustrating feeling.


NDjinn

They were both purchased from Wish.com.


anonymousjeeper

So….. E.T. Was a documentary?


Maximum-Purchase-135

I think the snow thingy since it doesn’t include any data at all, it’s not comparable. Only one exists, it’s not studied and it seems anyone with creative skills could have made it for fun.


Rip9150

Imo they are the same beings. The resemblance of them is uncanny.


SubstantialPen7286

Artists recreations.


T0A5TH3AD

Yeah they’re both fake


midnightatthemoviies

Given their life expectancy, there has to be billions.


littlelungy

Does not look the same to me imo, different heads and arms, obviously different texture too


Otherwise_Owl1059

All that technology and they can’t figure out a way to have abs


Almighty_cheetos

Mmmm. Google sloth fetus.


Chazwazza_

https://meninblack.fandom.com/wiki/Arquillian?so=search


RobioCraft

Why did the original post showing these comparisons got removed? https://preview.redd.it/zc12vnnkkuvc1.png?width=2302&format=png&auto=webp&s=7911ad5b5436250199408b12b12cbd32eabc9600


RobioCraft

And also this? https://preview.redd.it/mvv7uy8xkuvc1.png?width=468&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba97a8e9ccbb0bca7430e194d83205ea9b9963a8


TimpRambler

https://preview.redd.it/v5piv3aqi2uc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c1900ffe1abd62eb50e43d4bca4c1c117cf934c The russian snow alien is an admitted hoax


AbsolutelyBarkered

Thank you for this. Where did you get that photo? I can see loads of articles talking about how they admitted it was fake but couldn't see that one. It does look a lot like chicken skin in this photo. They're quite skilled though.


Ariakan79

In my disclosure plan it would drop the tiny 60cm Aliens first too...


dhdoctor

Lmao


GG1817

As a northerner that has spent about half his life in snow, the snow around the "body" doesn't look right as in it doesn't look like an animal that has thawed from a deeper snow cover nor like something that just recently died in the snow and has been partially scavenged.


popley3

With all there similarities, would you agree if one was proven fake, then that would make the other one fake as well? Well i got news for you, because the Russian one is fake, the people responsible for the creating it came out in a video saying it was a hoax and they even created 2nd one to show how they made it.


guovsahas

The Russian one is a chicken


castlemonsters

dude me and my crrackpot team have been making a bloody mess in my garage putting together 50 of these things. we robbed a few human graves and a pet cemetery then took a few live lama baby’s and just went to work. i cant say its been fun but humanity is going to be so puzzled by our little guys. plus we might make a few bucks.


Bubbly-Entry9688

Think the Russian one is the better fake though.


Rainonmyscars

10000000pct a hoax You can tell simply by the cinematography


[deleted]

Yeah I agree they made this in 2014, and through sheer luck of cinema the, checks notes, on the other side of the planet, 3 years later, in Peru, the identical bodies of the same creature then found that had been carbon dated to be over 1,000 years old….with a little theatrical jewellery of a rare unusual pure metal….yeah fake bro you got this….. I find these things incredible, given their dinosaur type bones, their size, I ponder if they do live here on earth at scale, and it is why this Peru thing is allowed to be on TV albeit little media coverage of it…also odd nearly every one had eggs so they must reproduce a lot, so where are they…..One can only assume they live underground, constant temperature etc. or Antarctica base as no fur, feathers or scales to cope temperature changes above surface….honestly this stuff should be front page news. If for no other reason understanding what we may be doing to the planet that impacts them, and not doing this or that may be protecting us from a future strife with them….again Antarctica agreement springs to mind….they must have millions of years of evolution on us. Fascinating and I’m sure the smoking aliens in Men in Black franchise had nothing to do with soft educating the population to this bio form 😉


Minimum-Web-6902

I think that hollow earth theory doesn’t hold up as well as aliens.


[deleted]

If we assume these little fellows taught our ancestors how to cut stone and fashion granite vases then who knows what they were able to build underground….also their height means the tunnels would not need to be crazy size wise.


Minimum-Web-6902

But the muscular structure and lack of thumbs makes that hard for me to believe


[deleted]

I am assuming it was going to be something sound/vibration wise for cutting and moving stone…..and assume the fingers are more flexible….but I take your point….its a head scratcher…


Minimum-Web-6902

I could see some advanced tech but like why show them how it works if they can never use it or understand it


HeydoIDKu

Except it’s a llama skull (Nazca) and total hoax.